| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 10:04 | sdziallas | is lurking to be pinged if necessary, a bit distracted, though. |
| 10:05 | tomeu | hi! |
| 10:05 | FGrose | I'm using VirtualBox2.2.0b2 and can boot the iso into Sugar, but have problem installing into the VBox disc. |
| 10:05 | tomeu: Hi | |
| 10:07 | Simon gave us some things to test last week, http://erikos.sweettimez.de/ | |
| 10:09 | daveb: valhalla Have you got the Soas-beta image? | |
| 10:09 | valhalla | yes |
| 10:09 | daveb | correct |
| 10:10 | FGrose | what platforms are you testing? |
| 10:11 | walterbender | cannot get the latest SoaS to boot on his Classmate PC :( |
| 10:11 | daveb | works on eeepc 901 (no wireless) |
| 10:11 | but that's a basic fedora issue | |
| 10:12 | FGrose | I've filed some logs on the VirtualBox problem for snapshot 0406 here: http://dev.sugarlabs.org/ticket/724 |
| 10:12 | daveb | oops crashed eeepc. |
| 10:12 | sdziallas | walterbender: uh, oh? :( |
| 10:13 | valhalla | I;m using an eee 4G and a VIA based "small pc" |
| 10:13 | sdziallas | walterbender: did that work before? |
| 10:14 | valhalla | and I can't check wifi (no wificard other than the eee one) |
| 10:14 | walterbender | sdziallas: yes. But maybe the USB key didn't build properly. I'll try again |
| 10:15 | davebvboxbe-b118 | looks like jabber is working well. in vbox it comes right up in the neighborhood |
| 10:16 | sdziallas | walterbender: *grumble* |
| 10:16 | FGrose | davebvboxbe-b118: Is that from the iso boot or did you install the image to a VBox disc? |
| 10:17 | daveb | iso so far |
| 10:17 | i will try to install to disk | |
| 10:17 | using the technique in the wiki | |
| 10:17 | i there another way to do it? | |
| 10:17 | sdziallas | daveb: you might need to yum install anaconda |
| 10:17 | daveb | sdziallas: ok |
| 10:18 | using this http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/S[…]ring_a_disk_image | |
| 10:18 | walterbender | sdziallas: 0406 is different than beta? |
| 10:18 | sdziallas | daveb: I'm not sure, but calling then liveinst --text or so on the terminal might work. |
| 10:18 | daveb | is there a different way? |
| 10:18 | sdziallas | walterbender: yep! |
| 10:18 | walterbender: we had a beta yesterday, that was 0407, and added two smaller fixes with the final beta today. | |
| 10:19 | walterbender | sdziallas: OK. I'll try beta again. |
| 10:19 | daveb | sdziallas: ok let me try that. that's better than turning the VM hard drive into a USB |
| 10:19 | install | |
| 10:19 | sdziallas | daveb: okay :) |
| 10:19 | walterbender: hm, I still suspect that liveusb-creator might be causing this, as we only changed sugar packages | |
| 10:20 | walterbender: I definitely need to get a new liveusb-creator version | |
| 10:20 | walterbender | sdziallas: I have been using the Windows app. |
| 10:20 | daveb | i used the shell script to create my usb |
| 10:21 | valhalla | on the eee I'm having problems with the touchpad: the scrolling area has just stopped working in mid scrolling |
| 10:21 | walterbender | sdziallas: 3.6.3 no problems with it in the past |
| 10:21 | sdziallas | walterbender: that's the most recent... hm! right... |
| 10:30 | walterbender | sdziallas: I am reburning the USB after reformating twice... It is taking a VERY long time... I suspect the key may be bad. |
| 10:31 | sdziallas | walterbender: that can be the cause, but... that's really bad luck then. |
| 10:31 | daveb | vbox crashed installing anaconda |
| 10:31 | sdziallas | hm! |
| 10:31 | daveb | well got to 100% cpu for many minutes and UI did not respond |
| 10:31 | can't prove it actually crashed | |
| 10:31 | FGrose | daveb: what was the RAM allocation? |
| 10:32 | daveb | 256mb |
| 10:32 | should I increase it? | |
| 10:32 | FGrose | daveb: Try 512 MB |
| 10:32 | daveb | ok |
| 10:33 | my eeepc crashed installing the wireless driver from yum also. that has 1g ram and 320mb overlay on the usb. | |
| 10:33 | sdziallas | daveb: so you're saying installing packages doesn't work at all? |
| 10:34 | daveb: crashes here = not responding, too. | |
| 10:34 | ? | |
| 10:34 | daveb | sdziallas: yes basically the screen was blank on the eeepc with just a mouse pointer |
| 10:34 | sdziallas: i don't think installing doesn't work at all | |
| 10:34 | need to narrow it down i think. | |
| 10:35 | sdziallas | hm, okay... I recall that I was able to install livecd-tools, but that was some time ago... |
| 10:36 | daveb | 0403 worked ok. i think its just something wrong over here. |
| 10:36 | now i have a real bug i think. | |
| 10:36 | i started write and shared it. | |
| 10:36 | from vbox | |
| 10:36 | and then I joined on my eeepc | |
| 10:36 | but after I restarted the vbox | |
| 10:37 | obviously that write isntance closed | |
| 10:37 | now when I try to close write on the eeepc it stopped responding. | |
| 10:37 | sdziallas | seriously wonders what's going on here. |
| 10:38 | daveb | yeah me too :) |
| 10:38 | going to try | |
| 10:38 | tomeu | any chance it's the / partition filling up? |
| 10:38 | daveb | 0406 and 0403 |
| 10:39 | tomeu: could be | |
| 10:39 | tomeu | that driver installs from sources, right? |
| 10:39 | daveb | tomeu: yes |
| 10:39 | tomeu | so needs to install gcc, etc, then rebuild, etc |
| 10:39 | daveb | forget that :) |
| 10:39 | tomeu | so that may be |
| 10:39 | daveb | i created a new stick |
| 10:39 | yes, very likely. i'll do that later | |
| 10:39 | i created a new stick and got it to crash with write | |
| 10:39 | and no other stuff | |
| 10:40 | (anaconda installed with 512mb ram on vbox) | |
| 10:40 | on the eeepc with write | |
| 10:40 | write UI is stuck | |
| 10:40 | but F1, etc works | |
| 10:40 | i can go to other screens | |
| 10:40 | and the mpise still works | |
| 10:41 | looks like it got confused when my friend disconnected suddently | |
| 10:43 | the write activity was suspended according to the journal but F4 screen still showed it acting funny. I deleted frm the journal and started it again | |
| 10:46 | yeah lots of problems with write activity | |
| 10:46 | i have 3 broken write UIs running now | |
| 10:47 | sdziallas | Oups? |
| 10:47 | So that's reproducable, and I guess definitely worth a bug on dev.sl.o | |
| 10:48 | valhalla | #433 is still not fixed in the italian translation for Calculate |
| 10:48 | daveb | ok i'll see if I can get the exact steps to reproduce |
| 10:48 | on virtualbox | |
| 10:48 | i have to partition/format the hard disk first | |
| 10:49 | liveinst won't do it, complains even if I say "use entire drive" | |
| 10:51 | sdziallas | it should, but... that might be anaconda's state in rawhide |
| 10:52 | daveb | yeah |
| 10:52 | not a bug in sugar just reporting progress. | |
| 10:52 | i am creating a new stick for soas2-beta | |
| 10:52 | sdziallas | okay :) |
| 10:53 | daveb | just in case its a bad usb stick |
| 10:56 | sdziallas | that would be another bad usb stick... (if walter's is corrupted, too) |
| 10:56 | daveb | these are well used and cheap |
| 10:58 | hmmm liveinst still doesn't live vbox harddrive and there is no "quit" option | |
| 10:58 | if it doesn't work | |
| 10:58 | you can't escape. | |
| 10:58 | sdziallas | heh! |
| 11:01 | FGrose | sdziallas: Which logs are most informative for the booting issues? |
| 11:02 | walterbender | back in a few... gunna try SoaS on this computer :) |
| 11:04 | sdziallas | FGrose: I'm not sure, what would we'd get best for that... |
| 11:04 | daveb | liveinst can |
| 11:04 | 't recognize the vbox hard drive no matter how I format or partition it. | |
| 11:05 | so i won't be installing it | |
| 11:05 | sdziallas | daveb: can you see... I remember one can set SCSI vs. IDE in virtualbox? |
| 11:06 | daveb: maybe this changes something? | |
| 11:07 | daveb | oh good idea |
| 11:07 | i'll see | |
| 11:07 | set to 2gb ide right now | |
| 11:08 | i want to test write one more time before I kill it and change the hard disk. | |
| 11:08 | sdziallas | okay... |
| 11:09 | daveb | since that seems more directly related to soas2-beta |
| 11:09 | walterbender | sdziallas: :( |
| 11:09 | sdziallas | walterbender: not working either? |
| 11:10 | walterbender | I tried the USB key that wouldn't boot my Classmate... it booted on my HP |
| 11:10 | but not network or audio | |
| 11:10 | valhalla | I;m missing the audio too |
| 11:10 | sdziallas | walterbender: there's something incredibly wrong going on here. |
| 11:10 | walterbender | It may be that the Classmate doesn't like the Belkin USB |
| 11:11 | sdziallas | I honestly don't understand that... we're in a freeze, which means that we didn't change any base system packages. |
| 11:11 | walterbender | but on a scandisk USB, with SoaS from a few days ago, both worked. |
| 11:11 | sdziallas | So I can't see how we could get different results because of the image. But I also hesitate a bit telling that it's always the USB key. |
| 11:11 | valhalla | (but it seems that it isn't working in plain fedora either - audio) |
| 11:12 | walterbender | sdziallas: I'll try a different USB key, which may fix the Classmate problem... |
| 11:12 | sdziallas: but I am a bit concerned about the network on the HP | |
| 11:12 | daveb | no audio on eeepc that I can tell either. |
| 11:12 | worked on 0403 | |
| 11:12 | ok i broke write reliably :) | |
| 11:12 | to the ticket tracker! | |
| 11:13 | sdziallas | ;) |
| 11:13 | daveb | i want to test write on 0406 and 0403 |
| 11:13 | to compare | |
| 11:13 | speak has no sound on beta but that worked on 0403, not sure how to dbug that | |
| 11:13 | sdziallas | walterbender: network via wifi or wired? (on the HP?) |
| 11:14 | for the sound... maybe this is SDL_mixer related. | |
| 11:15 | we're getting a new version without 50 MB of dependencies, so there might have been a change. | |
| 11:17 | daveb | sdziallas: ok i can compare 0406 to beta see if there is a different |
| 11:17 | then 0403 | |
| 11:17 | sdziallas | daveb: that would be great :) |
| 11:20 | prashant3535 | which build are you testing ? |
| 11:20 | sdziallas | prashant3535: the beta build from here: http://download.sugarlabs.org/[…]ses/soas-beta.iso |
| 11:21 | prashant3535 | sdziallas: is this different than Soas2-200904031934 ? |
| 11:21 | sdziallas | prashant3535: yep, it is. |
| 11:22 | prashant3535: I don't know why, but it seems like we're getting more issues with the beta release. | |
| 11:22 | walterbender | sdziallas: wifi |
| 11:22 | prashant3535 | sdziallas: :), its always the scene |
| 11:22 | daveb | yes I am getting more issues that 0403 |
| 11:22 | 0403 i had collaborating with soas1 | |
| 11:22 | prashant3535 | sdziallas: unfortunately, i cant download it rite now .. have already exceeded my usage limit :( |
| 11:23 | sdziallas | prashant3535: oh, okay... thanks for joining us, though :) |
| 11:23 | FGrose | sdziallas: daveb No luck on first pass with IDE disc for VitualBox install |
| 11:23 | daveb | FGrose: yeah me neither |
| 11:23 | can switch ti scsi and see if it likes that better. | |
| 11:23 | sdziallas | walterbender: I guess I'm getting crazy here today. |
| 11:24 | prashant3535 | the previous builds were working with scsi |
| 11:24 | FGrose | VirtualBox 2.2.0 release an hour ago, http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads |
| 11:24 | walterbender | sdziallas: :) hang in there... |
| 11:24 | daveb | there is no SCSI just IDE or SATA |
| 11:24 | will try sata | |
| 11:25 | sdziallas | gets a phone call |
| 11:28 | prashant3535 | any major different between Soas2-200904031934 & beta ?, cause Soas2-200904031934 is booting fine with IDE in VMWare |
| 11:29 | daveb | beta BOOTs ok for me in vbox |
| 11:30 | but i am trying to install to the disk from ISO/CD | |
| 11:30 | valhalla | got to leave now, bye |
| 11:31 | FGrose | valhalla: thanks for testing! |
| 11:31 | walterbender | sdziallas: some good news--almost--the beta image got farther booting on the Classmate using a sandisk USB... hangs after Loading initird0.img....ready. |
| 11:31 | prashant3535 | daveb: u are using the script for install or something else? |
| 11:31 | daveb | anaconda liveist experiment |
| 11:31 | valhalla | (as I wrote on the other channel, sound is working on fedora even if pulseaudio doesn't seems to be running) |
| 11:31 | daveb | sdziallas: no audio on eeepc on 0406 either. worked on 0403. |
| 11:32 | walterbender | sdziallas: I hit the power button and suddenly the SUGAR banner appeared and it started up... |
| 11:32 | valhalla | (and I've tried not only speak but also one of the tamtam activities) |
| 11:34 | sdziallas | is back |
| 11:34 | walterbender | sdziallas: but no audio or wifi :( |
| 11:34 | daveb | walterbender: does 0403 work? |
| 11:35 | sdziallas | dokay, so I guess audio is one issue we should really note, as it seems to occur to many people. |
| 11:35 | walterbender | daveb: I'll have to burn a new USB... the previous version I had--I think it was 0403 had wifi but not audio on the Classmate |
| 11:35 | sdziallas | walterbender: wifi... this can only be a Fedora issue, but... |
| 11:36 | walterbender | sdziallas: at least we have learned that the Classmate is happier with SnDisk than Belkin for some reason... |
| 11:36 | that is some progress... | |
| 11:36 | daveb | walterbender: that is curious. |
| 11:37 | i can't see anyone on jabber on 0406. on eeepc works on vbox | |
| 11:37 | sdziallas | walterbender: I've really no idea why this could be the case. |
| 11:37 | walterbender | daveb: maybe the Belkin USB is broken, but it runs on other machines |
| 11:37 | daveb: I used the Classmate to create the USB in each case | |
| 11:37 | daveb: from the same image | |
| 11:37 | daveb | yeah so many varaiables so little time |
| 11:38 | FGrose | I got yum install anaconda to complete with VirtualBox 2.2.0 after <ctrl><alt><F2> login, but reboot still fails to start Sugar. I think there is a permissions issue. |
| 11:38 | walterbender | daveb: but if we can find one configuration that works consistently... |
| 11:40 | daveb | FGrose: vbox 2.1.4 i can't install to the harddisk with liveinst. |
| 11:42 | write fails on 0406 also. | |
| 11:46 | FGrose | I'm copying logs for a ticket I'll post on booting from VBox disc |
| 11:47 | prashant3535 | has to go |
| 11:48 | FGrose | prashant3535 Thanks for joining |
| 11:53 | daveb | write fails on 0403 also |
| 11:53 | recommend don't shutdown with write open and shared. | |
| 11:54 | sdziallas | okay, we should consider mentioning this in the release notes |
| 11:55 | daveb: did you already file this? if not, can you cc me? :) | |
| 11:55 | daveb | sure i am attaching logs. |
| 11:55 | i will | |
| 11:55 | sdzialls on trac? | |
| 11:55 | sdziallas | daveb: yep |
| 11:56 | please ;) | |
| 11:56 | daveb | no problem. |
| 11:56 | sdziallas | thanks! |
| 12:02 | FGrose | Ok thanks all for joining the testing session! |
| 12:02 | #endmeeting |