Time |
Nick |
Message |
10:04 |
sdziallas |
is lurking to be pinged if necessary, a bit distracted, though. |
10:05 |
tomeu |
hi! |
10:05 |
FGrose |
I'm using VirtualBox2.2.0b2 and can boot the iso into Sugar, but have problem installing into the VBox disc. |
10:05 |
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tomeu: Hi |
10:07 |
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Simon gave us some things to test last week, http://erikos.sweettimez.de/ |
10:09 |
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daveb: valhalla Have you got the Soas-beta image? |
10:09 |
valhalla |
yes |
10:09 |
daveb |
correct |
10:10 |
FGrose |
what platforms are you testing? |
10:11 |
walterbender |
cannot get the latest SoaS to boot on his Classmate PC :( |
10:11 |
daveb |
works on eeepc 901 (no wireless) |
10:11 |
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but that's a basic fedora issue |
10:12 |
FGrose |
I've filed some logs on the VirtualBox problem for snapshot 0406 here: http://dev.sugarlabs.org/ticket/724 |
10:12 |
daveb |
oops crashed eeepc. |
10:12 |
sdziallas |
walterbender: uh, oh? :( |
10:13 |
valhalla |
I;m using an eee 4G and a VIA based "small pc" |
10:13 |
sdziallas |
walterbender: did that work before? |
10:14 |
valhalla |
and I can't check wifi (no wificard other than the eee one) |
10:14 |
walterbender |
sdziallas: yes. But maybe the USB key didn't build properly. I'll try again |
10:15 |
davebvboxbe-b118 |
looks like jabber is working well. in vbox it comes right up in the neighborhood |
10:16 |
sdziallas |
walterbender: *grumble* |
10:16 |
FGrose |
davebvboxbe-b118: Is that from the iso boot or did you install the image to a VBox disc? |
10:17 |
daveb |
iso so far |
10:17 |
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i will try to install to disk |
10:17 |
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using the technique in the wiki |
10:17 |
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i there another way to do it? |
10:17 |
sdziallas |
daveb: you might need to yum install anaconda |
10:17 |
daveb |
sdziallas: ok |
10:18 |
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using this http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/S[…]ring_a_disk_image |
10:18 |
walterbender |
sdziallas: 0406 is different than beta? |
10:18 |
sdziallas |
daveb: I'm not sure, but calling then liveinst --text or so on the terminal might work. |
10:18 |
daveb |
is there a different way? |
10:18 |
sdziallas |
walterbender: yep! |
10:18 |
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walterbender: we had a beta yesterday, that was 0407, and added two smaller fixes with the final beta today. |
10:19 |
walterbender |
sdziallas: OK. I'll try beta again. |
10:19 |
daveb |
sdziallas: ok let me try that. that's better than turning the VM hard drive into a USB |
10:19 |
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install |
10:19 |
sdziallas |
daveb: okay :) |
10:19 |
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walterbender: hm, I still suspect that liveusb-creator might be causing this, as we only changed sugar packages |
10:20 |
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walterbender: I definitely need to get a new liveusb-creator version |
10:20 |
walterbender |
sdziallas: I have been using the Windows app. |
10:20 |
daveb |
i used the shell script to create my usb |
10:21 |
valhalla |
on the eee I'm having problems with the touchpad: the scrolling area has just stopped working in mid scrolling |
10:21 |
walterbender |
sdziallas: 3.6.3 no problems with it in the past |
10:21 |
sdziallas |
walterbender: that's the most recent... hm! right... |
10:30 |
walterbender |
sdziallas: I am reburning the USB after reformating twice... It is taking a VERY long time... I suspect the key may be bad. |
10:31 |
sdziallas |
walterbender: that can be the cause, but... that's really bad luck then. |
10:31 |
daveb |
vbox crashed installing anaconda |
10:31 |
sdziallas |
hm! |
10:31 |
daveb |
well got to 100% cpu for many minutes and UI did not respond |
10:31 |
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can't prove it actually crashed |
10:31 |
FGrose |
daveb: what was the RAM allocation? |
10:32 |
daveb |
256mb |
10:32 |
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should I increase it? |
10:32 |
FGrose |
daveb: Try 512 MB |
10:32 |
daveb |
ok |
10:33 |
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my eeepc crashed installing the wireless driver from yum also. that has 1g ram and 320mb overlay on the usb. |
10:33 |
sdziallas |
daveb: so you're saying installing packages doesn't work at all? |
10:34 |
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daveb: crashes here = not responding, too. |
10:34 |
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? |
10:34 |
daveb |
sdziallas: yes basically the screen was blank on the eeepc with just a mouse pointer |
10:34 |
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sdziallas: i don't think installing doesn't work at all |
10:34 |
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need to narrow it down i think. |
10:35 |
sdziallas |
hm, okay... I recall that I was able to install livecd-tools, but that was some time ago... |
10:36 |
daveb |
0403 worked ok. i think its just something wrong over here. |
10:36 |
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now i have a real bug i think. |
10:36 |
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i started write and shared it. |
10:36 |
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from vbox |
10:36 |
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and then I joined on my eeepc |
10:36 |
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but after I restarted the vbox |
10:37 |
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obviously that write isntance closed |
10:37 |
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now when I try to close write on the eeepc it stopped responding. |
10:37 |
sdziallas |
seriously wonders what's going on here. |
10:38 |
daveb |
yeah me too :) |
10:38 |
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going to try |
10:38 |
tomeu |
any chance it's the / partition filling up? |
10:38 |
daveb |
0406 and 0403 |
10:39 |
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tomeu: could be |
10:39 |
tomeu |
that driver installs from sources, right? |
10:39 |
daveb |
tomeu: yes |
10:39 |
tomeu |
so needs to install gcc, etc, then rebuild, etc |
10:39 |
daveb |
forget that :) |
10:39 |
tomeu |
so that may be |
10:39 |
daveb |
i created a new stick |
10:39 |
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yes, very likely. i'll do that later |
10:39 |
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i created a new stick and got it to crash with write |
10:39 |
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and no other stuff |
10:40 |
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(anaconda installed with 512mb ram on vbox) |
10:40 |
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on the eeepc with write |
10:40 |
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write UI is stuck |
10:40 |
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but F1, etc works |
10:40 |
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i can go to other screens |
10:40 |
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and the mpise still works |
10:41 |
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looks like it got confused when my friend disconnected suddently |
10:43 |
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the write activity was suspended according to the journal but F4 screen still showed it acting funny. I deleted frm the journal and started it again |
10:46 |
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yeah lots of problems with write activity |
10:46 |
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i have 3 broken write UIs running now |
10:47 |
sdziallas |
Oups? |
10:47 |
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So that's reproducable, and I guess definitely worth a bug on dev.sl.o |
10:48 |
valhalla |
#433 is still not fixed in the italian translation for Calculate |
10:48 |
daveb |
ok i'll see if I can get the exact steps to reproduce |
10:48 |
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on virtualbox |
10:48 |
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i have to partition/format the hard disk first |
10:49 |
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liveinst won't do it, complains even if I say "use entire drive" |
10:51 |
sdziallas |
it should, but... that might be anaconda's state in rawhide |
10:52 |
daveb |
yeah |
10:52 |
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not a bug in sugar just reporting progress. |
10:52 |
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i am creating a new stick for soas2-beta |
10:52 |
sdziallas |
okay :) |
10:53 |
daveb |
just in case its a bad usb stick |
10:56 |
sdziallas |
that would be another bad usb stick... (if walter's is corrupted, too) |
10:56 |
daveb |
these are well used and cheap |
10:58 |
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hmmm liveinst still doesn't live vbox harddrive and there is no "quit" option |
10:58 |
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if it doesn't work |
10:58 |
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you can't escape. |
10:58 |
sdziallas |
heh! |
11:01 |
FGrose |
sdziallas: Which logs are most informative for the booting issues? |
11:02 |
walterbender |
back in a few... gunna try SoaS on this computer :) |
11:04 |
sdziallas |
FGrose: I'm not sure, what would we'd get best for that... |
11:04 |
daveb |
liveinst can |
11:04 |
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't recognize the vbox hard drive no matter how I format or partition it. |
11:05 |
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so i won't be installing it |
11:05 |
sdziallas |
daveb: can you see... I remember one can set SCSI vs. IDE in virtualbox? |
11:06 |
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daveb: maybe this changes something? |
11:07 |
daveb |
oh good idea |
11:07 |
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i'll see |
11:07 |
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set to 2gb ide right now |
11:08 |
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i want to test write one more time before I kill it and change the hard disk. |
11:08 |
sdziallas |
okay... |
11:09 |
daveb |
since that seems more directly related to soas2-beta |
11:09 |
walterbender |
sdziallas: :( |
11:09 |
sdziallas |
walterbender: not working either? |
11:10 |
walterbender |
I tried the USB key that wouldn't boot my Classmate... it booted on my HP |
11:10 |
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but not network or audio |
11:10 |
valhalla |
I;m missing the audio too |
11:10 |
sdziallas |
walterbender: there's something incredibly wrong going on here. |
11:10 |
walterbender |
It may be that the Classmate doesn't like the Belkin USB |
11:11 |
sdziallas |
I honestly don't understand that... we're in a freeze, which means that we didn't change any base system packages. |
11:11 |
walterbender |
but on a scandisk USB, with SoaS from a few days ago, both worked. |
11:11 |
sdziallas |
So I can't see how we could get different results because of the image. But I also hesitate a bit telling that it's always the USB key. |
11:11 |
valhalla |
(but it seems that it isn't working in plain fedora either - audio) |
11:12 |
walterbender |
sdziallas: I'll try a different USB key, which may fix the Classmate problem... |
11:12 |
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sdziallas: but I am a bit concerned about the network on the HP |
11:12 |
daveb |
no audio on eeepc that I can tell either. |
11:12 |
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worked on 0403 |
11:12 |
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ok i broke write reliably :) |
11:12 |
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to the ticket tracker! |
11:13 |
sdziallas |
;) |
11:13 |
daveb |
i want to test write on 0406 and 0403 |
11:13 |
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to compare |
11:13 |
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speak has no sound on beta but that worked on 0403, not sure how to dbug that |
11:13 |
sdziallas |
walterbender: network via wifi or wired? (on the HP?) |
11:14 |
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for the sound... maybe this is SDL_mixer related. |
11:15 |
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we're getting a new version without 50 MB of dependencies, so there might have been a change. |
11:17 |
daveb |
sdziallas: ok i can compare 0406 to beta see if there is a different |
11:17 |
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then 0403 |
11:17 |
sdziallas |
daveb: that would be great :) |
11:20 |
prashant3535 |
which build are you testing ? |
11:20 |
sdziallas |
prashant3535: the beta build from here: http://download.sugarlabs.org/[…]ses/soas-beta.iso |
11:21 |
prashant3535 |
sdziallas: is this different than Soas2-200904031934 ? |
11:21 |
sdziallas |
prashant3535: yep, it is. |
11:22 |
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prashant3535: I don't know why, but it seems like we're getting more issues with the beta release. |
11:22 |
walterbender |
sdziallas: wifi |
11:22 |
prashant3535 |
sdziallas: :), its always the scene |
11:22 |
daveb |
yes I am getting more issues that 0403 |
11:22 |
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0403 i had collaborating with soas1 |
11:22 |
prashant3535 |
sdziallas: unfortunately, i cant download it rite now .. have already exceeded my usage limit :( |
11:23 |
sdziallas |
prashant3535: oh, okay... thanks for joining us, though :) |
11:23 |
FGrose |
sdziallas: daveb No luck on first pass with IDE disc for VitualBox install |
11:23 |
daveb |
FGrose: yeah me neither |
11:23 |
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can switch ti scsi and see if it likes that better. |
11:23 |
sdziallas |
walterbender: I guess I'm getting crazy here today. |
11:24 |
prashant3535 |
the previous builds were working with scsi |
11:24 |
FGrose |
VirtualBox 2.2.0 release an hour ago, http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads |
11:24 |
walterbender |
sdziallas: :) hang in there... |
11:24 |
daveb |
there is no SCSI just IDE or SATA |
11:24 |
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will try sata |
11:25 |
sdziallas |
gets a phone call |
11:28 |
prashant3535 |
any major different between Soas2-200904031934 & beta ?, cause Soas2-200904031934 is booting fine with IDE in VMWare |
11:29 |
daveb |
beta BOOTs ok for me in vbox |
11:30 |
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but i am trying to install to the disk from ISO/CD |
11:30 |
valhalla |
got to leave now, bye |
11:31 |
FGrose |
valhalla: thanks for testing! |
11:31 |
walterbender |
sdziallas: some good news--almost--the beta image got farther booting on the Classmate using a sandisk USB... hangs after Loading initird0.img....ready. |
11:31 |
prashant3535 |
daveb: u are using the script for install or something else? |
11:31 |
daveb |
anaconda liveist experiment |
11:31 |
valhalla |
(as I wrote on the other channel, sound is working on fedora even if pulseaudio doesn't seems to be running) |
11:31 |
daveb |
sdziallas: no audio on eeepc on 0406 either. worked on 0403. |
11:32 |
walterbender |
sdziallas: I hit the power button and suddenly the SUGAR banner appeared and it started up... |
11:32 |
valhalla |
(and I've tried not only speak but also one of the tamtam activities) |
11:34 |
sdziallas |
is back |
11:34 |
walterbender |
sdziallas: but no audio or wifi :( |
11:34 |
daveb |
walterbender: does 0403 work? |
11:35 |
sdziallas |
dokay, so I guess audio is one issue we should really note, as it seems to occur to many people. |
11:35 |
walterbender |
daveb: I'll have to burn a new USB... the previous version I had--I think it was 0403 had wifi but not audio on the Classmate |
11:35 |
sdziallas |
walterbender: wifi... this can only be a Fedora issue, but... |
11:36 |
walterbender |
sdziallas: at least we have learned that the Classmate is happier with SnDisk than Belkin for some reason... |
11:36 |
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that is some progress... |
11:36 |
daveb |
walterbender: that is curious. |
11:37 |
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i can't see anyone on jabber on 0406. on eeepc works on vbox |
11:37 |
sdziallas |
walterbender: I've really no idea why this could be the case. |
11:37 |
walterbender |
daveb: maybe the Belkin USB is broken, but it runs on other machines |
11:37 |
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daveb: I used the Classmate to create the USB in each case |
11:37 |
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daveb: from the same image |
11:37 |
daveb |
yeah so many varaiables so little time |
11:38 |
FGrose |
I got yum install anaconda to complete with VirtualBox 2.2.0 after <ctrl><alt><F2> login, but reboot still fails to start Sugar. I think there is a permissions issue. |
11:38 |
walterbender |
daveb: but if we can find one configuration that works consistently... |
11:40 |
daveb |
FGrose: vbox 2.1.4 i can't install to the harddisk with liveinst. |
11:42 |
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write fails on 0406 also. |
11:46 |
FGrose |
I'm copying logs for a ticket I'll post on booting from VBox disc |
11:47 |
prashant3535 |
has to go |
11:48 |
FGrose |
prashant3535 Thanks for joining |
11:53 |
daveb |
write fails on 0403 also |
11:53 |
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recommend don't shutdown with write open and shared. |
11:54 |
sdziallas |
okay, we should consider mentioning this in the release notes |
11:55 |
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daveb: did you already file this? if not, can you cc me? :) |
11:55 |
daveb |
sure i am attaching logs. |
11:55 |
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i will |
11:55 |
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sdzialls on trac? |
11:55 |
sdziallas |
daveb: yep |
11:56 |
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please ;) |
11:56 |
daveb |
no problem. |
11:56 |
sdziallas |
thanks! |
12:02 |
FGrose |
Ok thanks all for joining the testing session! |
12:02 |
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#endmeeting |