| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 11:08 | erikos | thanks FGrose |
| 11:08 | [200-300, 300-400, 400-x] | |
| 11:08 | FGrose | 400+ |
| 11:09 | erikos | i take the 200-300 one |
| 11:09 | and tomeu then 300-400 and as bonus he gets #157 :) | |
| 11:09 | FGrose | http://tinyurl.com/cxl55y for the bot |
| 11:09 | erikos | :) |
| 11:09 | silbe, here for triage fun as well? | |
| 11:10 | silbe | erikos: just lurking in case there are questions re. my bugs |
| 11:10 | erikos | silbe, ok, nice |
| 11:14 | FGrose | silbe: in #402, is that hint at startup? |
| 11:16 | silbe | FGrose: yep, directly after resuming the activity |
| 11:16 | erikos | silbe, oh ok - other activities do directly share right? |
| 11:16 | FGrose | silbe: It auto disappears right? |
| 11:18 | silbe | FGrose: yep, it's the usual countdown |
| 11:19 | FGrose | silbe: I see it starting out unconnected, then catching up with shared |
| 11:19 | silbe | erikos: AFAICT Chat does share, but shows the hint anyway |
| 11:19 | erikos | silbe, oh ok |
| 11:21 | silbe | FGrose: interesting. it's starting up with "Share with: My neighorhood" (greyed out, i.e. can't change it) for me. |
| 11:25 | FGrose | I've produce orphan instances in the neighborhood that resume private! |
| 11:28 | erikos | FGrose, can you elaborate? |
| 11:30 | FGrose | while trying to confirm, I managed to open several instances. I find them in the Neighborhood. When I click them there, they open with Private showing (and no hinting message). |
| 11:31 | erikos | FGrose, you mean when clicking the icon in the mesh view - it does starta a new instance? |
| 11:33 | hey garycmartin | |
| 11:33 | garycmartin | Hi erikos, sorry running late today :-) |
| 11:33 | erikos | garycmartin, no worries - happy you made it anyhow ;) |
| 11:33 | garycmartin | erikos: (joys of the UK banking system) |
| 11:34 | erikos | garycmartin, do you still have banks? |
| 11:35 | ours are all collapsed or nationalized | |
| 11:35 | garycmartin | erikos: I don't think we ever had banks, they are just casinos for the wealthy to gamble the money of the common masses. |
| 11:35 | erikos | garycmartin, we are looking at http://tinyurl.com/cxl55y |
| 11:35 | garycmartin | erikos: looking... |
| 11:35 | erikos | garycmartin, yeah - it really looks like - it is horrible |
| 11:36 | FGrose | erikos: Well, I get a Chat enty in the Journal, with a blank details page. |
| 11:36 | tomeu | garycmartin's remark remembered me yes, minister |
| 11:37 | garycmartin | ooh, not many tickets - that's a good sign, right? |
| 11:37 | FGrose | erikos: Right clicking it, resumes instead of giving me a panel to erase. |
| 11:37 | erikos | FGrose, tomeu had commiteed one fix for that i think |
| 11:38 | tomeu | yeah, that has been recently fixed |
| 11:38 | FGrose | Ok, I'll look in trac if it's recorded |
| 11:38 | silbe | garycmartin: erikos broke my keyboard so i couldn't test :-P |
| 11:39 | erikos | FGrose, #409 |
| 11:39 | FGrose, and #410 | |
| 11:39 | silbe, hehe | |
| 11:40 | silbe | but 410 is remembering me of something i saw today... wait a minute |
| 11:40 | FGrose | Ok i'll concentrate on 402 features later but confirm for now for later discussion of design |
| 11:40 | silbe | yes. the xo man in Frame doesn't react to right click as well |
| 11:41 | will open a new bug about it | |
| 11:41 | erikos | silbe, in the friends tray - yeah looks like |
| 11:41 | silbe, thanks | |
| 11:42 | silbe | what's the politcally correct name for that icon, BTW? |
| 11:42 | erikos | silbe, friends tray xo icon |
| 11:42 | silbe, or do you mean to not say 'xo' ? :) | |
| 11:43 | silbe | so just "xo icon" without "man"? ok :) |
| 11:43 | erikos | yup |
| 11:43 | silbe | which component is Frame? sugar or -toolkit? |
| 11:44 | erikos | silbe, sugar |
| 11:44 | silbe | thx |
| 11:45 | #441, filed as new as you already confirmed it | |
| 11:48 | erikos | silbe, excellent |
| 11:48 | garycmartin, #289 | |
| 11:48 | silbe | does Pippy have a maintainer besides lfaraone? I.e. is there someone else who "can" commit the patch for #350? |
| 11:48 | erikos | silbe, yes, brian something |
| 11:49 | silbe, brian jordan | |
| 11:49 | silbe, did lfaraone say to maintain pippy? | |
| 11:49 | silbe | bjordan: ^^ |
| 11:50 | erikos: don't know, but the bug is assigned to him. | |
| 11:50 | garycmartin | erikos: #289, yes? Gee this is a 4 week old one. |
| 11:51 | erikos | garycmartin, i would say we can close this |
| 11:51 | garycmartin | erikos: I can't test recent Sugar on XO, I'm sure there has been some discussion of this floating about regarding SoaS testing. |
| 11:52 | erikos | garycmartin, i just did check in the latest available xo image |
| 11:52 | garycmartin | erikos: Cool, it's fixed, right? |
| 11:52 | erikos | garycmartin, it does not show the serial number - because it is not accessible from Soas |
| 11:52 | silbe | oh, BTW: could someone fix the "Unconfimed" [sic] value of status_field? |
| 11:52 | erikos | garycmartin, but it would work on a 'normal' build |
| 11:53 | garycmartin | erikos: 'latest available xo image'? Oooh, have I missed an email? |
| 11:53 | erikos | garycmartin, this image-3 |
| 11:54 | garycmartin | erikos: ah ok :-( I have that, let me boot it and double check. |
| 11:54 | erikos | garycmartin, you will get a new image soon ;p we requested a server update already |
| 11:56 | garycmartin | erikos: :-) I'm almost at the state of taking an 8.2 build,trying to slop the Sugar packages over the top of it... |
| 11:57 | erikos: But I'm no expert on such things. | |
| 11:57 | erikos | garycmartin, yeah, it is a pain , i know :/ |
| 11:57 | garycmartin | mchua: Hey Mel! |
| 11:59 | mchua | hi, garycmartin! |
| 11:59 | erikos | hey mchua |
| 11:59 | garycmartin | erikos: My XO is telling me: Build: Fedora release 10 (Cambridge); Sugar: 0.83.x |
| 11:59 | mchua | waves to everyone |
| 11:59 | dirakx | hey mchua ;) |
| 12:00 | silbe | g'morning mchua :) |
| 12:00 | mchua | laughs. I have too many meetings off the internets lately, and miss being online here. |
| 12:00 | garycmartin | erikos: Is that good enough for reporting bugs? Seems a bit fluffy. |
| 12:00 | mchua | runs to... yep, yet another offline meeting. (I think they'll stop tonight, though. Then I have a lot of things to write up for SL.) |
| 12:01 | erikos | garycmartin, you mean we would need a way to say which Soas image it is? |
| 12:02 | garycmartin, (i mainly commented about the fact that the serial number was not available) | |
| 12:02 | garycmartin | erikos: Well for sure 0.83.x is too wooly, this mus be a real build of 0.83.1/2/3/4/5/6/? at least |
| 12:03 | erikos | garycmartin, ok that we can do - but this is a different request from the original bug or? |
| 12:04 | garycmartin | erikos: I agree the serial number is much less exciting for us, (though some hardware specs could be gret for SoaS bug reports - but that sould be a new ticket) |
| 12:06 | erikos | garycmartin, ok - i would say we close this - because we can not show the serial number |
| 12:06 | garycmartin, and we think about what we need to do to generate better info to report bugs | |
| 12:07 | garycmartin | erikos: I should have thought more and made 2 tickets, one for HW + perhaps distro specifics, and one for the Sugar version (which is to vague to help right now) |
| 12:07 | erikos | garycmartin, first one - i can make the Sugar: 0.83.6 |
| 12:08 | garycmartin | erikos: Fab |
| 12:08 | erikos | garycmartin, ok - i already know how to do that :) |
| 12:08 | garycmartin, http://git.sugarlabs.org/proje[…]onfigure.ac#line8 | |
| 12:09 | garycmartin, only need to always update that line when making releases | |
| 12:10 | garycmartin | erikos: :-) |
| 12:10 | erikos | how is everyone doing? has everyone bugs to triage? |
| 12:10 | tomeu | I haven't started with mines and probably won't be able to do so today :/ |
| 12:11 | erikos | tomeu, ok - i can take them over |
| 12:11 | tomeu, good bye lenin | |
| 12:12 | FGrose, http://dev.sugarlabs.org/ticket/419 i just moved that to localization | |
| 12:13 | FGrose | erikos: check |
| 12:14 | garycmartin | erikos: #289 closed as fixed (with comment about extra sugar version detail in future) |
| 12:15 | erikos | garycmartin, thanks |
| 12:18 | garycmartin | #423, how do folks feel about making Jukebox the default music player, rather than browse? I must admit I've done little testing of it so far. |
| 12:18 | FGrose | erikos: There's good discussion on #428, does that confirm it as a defect or a task or enhancement (or does it matter much)? |
| 12:19 | garycmartin: That might need more exposure on a mailing list or 2. erikos, could we put a mailing list address in the cc: ? | |
| 12:21 | erikos | phone bias |
| 12:21 | garycmartin | FGrose: Yes, fair point (I guess we really need a CP module for setting default activities - new ticket for 0.86?) |
| 12:27 | FGrose | garycmartin: How about unconfirmed -> NeedInfo (general feed back) for #423? |
| 12:29 | garycmartin | FGrose: Good one :-) go for it (suggesting feedback from sugar-dev list). |
| 12:29 | FGrose | I'm going to try putting the mailing list address in the cc: to see how it's received. |
| 12:35 | garycmartin: What about category for #428? Leave it to alsroot, wadeb, & tomeu? or solicit others by a mailing list? would you have known about this ticket? | |
| 12:35 | garycmartin | FGrose: looking... |
| 12:37 | FGrose: (Yea, been reading this one, I have every ticket change emailed) | |
| 12:39 | erikos | back |
| 12:39 | garycmartin | FGrose: FWIW: #428 is above me dev foo |
| 12:39 | erikos | garycmartin, i think it is the default player - let me check |
| 12:40 | garycmartin, oh it is not! | |
| 12:41 | FGrose | garycmartin: OK, I'll set ticket:428 to Needinfo (from insiders) |
| 12:44 | bjordan | silbe, erikos: updated #350, will resolve tomorrow after moving Pippy from dev.l.o to git.sl.o |
| 12:44 | garycmartin | FGrose: Strictly speaking I thin this usage of tabs breaks the Sugar design spec, perhaps eben should be cced |
| 12:44 | silbe | bjordan: great, thanks! |
| 12:45 | bjordan | silbe: thanks for the patch |
| 12:45 | FGrose | garycmartin: OK |
| 12:46 | silbe | bjordan: yw :) |
| 12:49 | garycmartin | FGrose: I stand corrected, Just tested typing turtle and finance, both use screen changing without messing with the tab concept. sorry. |
| 12:49 | FGrose | erikos: OK, 17 tickets no longer unconfirmed. Please post an assignment for homework. It helps to have a subtarget. |
| 12:53 | erikos | bjordan, awesome! thanks |
| 12:53 | FGrose, :))) | |
| 12:54 | silbe | garycmartin: is there a bundle of typing turtle? i'd like to try it out. |
| 12:54 | erikos | aweome work gentleman - i think we can stop our coordinated efforts here |
| 12:54 | garycmartin | yea pretty sure, let me look for you. |
| 12:56 | erikos | FGrose, 391 - when there is a r? in the keywords the submitter asks for a review of the patch |
| 12:57 | FGrose, i just took it to do a review | |
| 12:57 | garycmartin | silbe: http://addons.sugarlabs.org/en[…]/sugar/addon/4026 |
| 12:57 | FGrose | OK, so unconfirmed to Needinfo (review) is appropriate? |
| 12:58 | erikos | FGrose, hmm i wonder if we should have another field for reviews |
| 12:58 | silbe | garycmartin: thx, trying out right now |
| 12:59 | FGrose | erikos: tkt:423 |
| 13:00 | erikos | FGrose, tkt? |
| 13:00 | silbe | oh yeah, yet another json-using activity :-P |
| 13:00 | FGrose | erikos y |
| 13:01 | erikos yes, ticket:423 | |
| 13:01 | erikos | FGrose, we should check if the playing of ogg files work nicely |
| 13:02 | FGrose, if it does i make it the default | |
| 13:03 | FGrose | erikos: concerning the review by mailing list, will that post? I have'nt seen it yet. |
| 13:03 | silbe | simplejson as well?? |
| 13:04 | erikos | FGrose, the review is happening in the mailing list |
| 13:05 | FGrose | erikos: OK |
| 13:05 | erikos | FGrose, sorry - in the trac ticket |
| 13:06 | FGrose | erikos: Gary & I thought to expand it to sugar-devel |
| 13:07 | erikos | FGrose, http://sugarlabs.org/go/Develo[…]ntTeam/CodeReview |
| 13:07 | FGrose, yeah - currently we suck in reviews that is true | |
| 13:08 | FGrose, what we did in the past is sending mail to the ml if we have new reviews | |
| 13:09 | FGrose, but the review itself happened in the trac ticket | |
| 13:10 | silbe | nice activity, though |
| 13:11 | FGrose | erikos: I see a thread now for ogg. (last post 17 Dec 2008) |
| 13:13 | erikos: I'll add comment with link to aid discovery | |
| 13:16 | erikos | FGrose, yeah, cool |
| 13:19 | FGrose | So long, for today. |
| 13:19 | erikos | FGrose, what was your homework idea? |
| 13:20 | FGrose, you have done again a great job today! | |
| 13:20 | FGrose | erikos: Just a new query, if you had a different one in mind. |
| 13:21 | garycmartin | goes back to work |
| 13:21 | Thanks all, catch you next week. | |
| 13:21 | erikos | FGrose, probably http://dev.sugarlabs.org/query[…]tone&col=type&col |
| 13:21 | =severity&milestone=!0.86&status_field=Needinfo | |
| 13:21 | cheers gary | |
| 13:22 | FGrose, i will post one in my blog, ok? | |
| 13:22 | FGrose | erikos: good idea, may rouse more help |
| 13:22 | erikos | FGrose, right - it will appear on http://planet.sugarlabs.org/ |
| 13:23 | FGrose | Great, bye now |
| 13:23 | erikos | Thanks! Have a nice evening |
| 13:23 | #endmeeting |