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| 19:56 | Quozl_ | meeting: ping |
| 19:56 | meeting | pong |
| 19:57 | samsongoddy | hello |
| 19:59 | pikurasa | hi |
| 20:00 | Quozl_ | #startmeeting |
| 20:00 | meeting | Meeting started Wed Oct 2 20:00:06 2019 UTC. The chair is Quozl_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
| 20:00 | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #endmeeting | |
| 20:00 | Quozl_ | #topic appoint chief executive |
| 20:00 | llaske | hi |
| 20:01 | Quozl_ | #agreed quorum of lionel, devin, samson, and james. |
| 20:02 | pikurasa | As for Chief Executive (or Executive Director), Kyle asks us to chose one very soon. |
| 20:02 | I think it should be a democratic process, so I am bringing it here to discuss. | |
| 20:03 | Does anyone have a candidate in mind? | |
| 20:03 | Quozl_ | yes, i propose alex. |
| 20:03 | pikurasa | Any other candidates? |
| 20:04 | Quozl_ | i have no other candidates to propose. |
| 20:04 | pikurasa | I am assuming that means, no from everyone else? |
| 20:04 | samsongoddy | alex, walter for me |
| 20:04 | Quozl_ | i don't think that can be assumed. |
| 20:05 | pikurasa | samsongoddy: does that mean both alex and walter? |
| 20:05 | I have no candidates that have not been mentioned already | |
| 20:05 | walterbender | hi.. sorry I had my head in some code |
| 20:06 | samsongoddy | those are the candidates for me |
| 20:06 | walterbender | I would love Alex to accept the role |
| 20:06 | Quozl_ | #agreed quorum of lionel, devin, samson, james, and walter. |
| 20:06 | pikurasa | walterbender: have you pinged claudia yet? If not, please do so. |
| 20:07 | walterbender | I will ping her |
| 20:07 | Quozl_ | llaske: do you have any candidates to propose? for chief executive role. |
| 20:07 | llaske | nope |
| 20:08 | pikurasa | I am calling Alex to join meeting |
| 20:08 | walterbender | Better we appoint before he can say no :) |
| 20:08 | pikurasa | haha |
| 20:08 | Quozl_ | i guess he should consent. |
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| 20:09 | pikurasa | hi MrBIOS |
| 20:09 | MrBIOS | saw you rang |
| 20:09 | apologies for my tardiness, folks. | |
| 20:09 | pikurasa | we have two candidates for Exec Director for SLI: |
| 20:09 | Alex P and Walter B | |
| 20:09 | walterbender | Oh. I thought it was only Alex P. |
| 20:10 | pikurasa | MrBIOS: Do you have any addit. candidates? |
| 20:10 | samsongoddy: added your name, walter | |
| 20:11 | MrBIOS | heh @ walterbender. I would honestly be honored to be Exec Director of SLI. I know walterbender had previously stated to me, not sure in what context, that he was not interested in that particular responsibility. |
| 20:11 | walterbender | I'm very happy being on the board but I am too distracted to take on the role of ED |
| 20:11 | I think Alex would be great in that role. | |
| 20:13 | pikurasa | I motion that Alex Perez be given the position of Executive Director for Sugar Labs Inc. and all the responsibilities that the role entails. |
| 20:13 | walterbender | seconded |
| 20:13 | llaske | +1 |
| 20:13 | Quozl_ | +1 |
| 20:13 | walterbender | +1 |
| 20:13 | samsongoddy has quit IRC | |
| 20:14 | MrBIOS | yay, even more responsibility! I will do my best to not let you down. |
| 20:14 | the process of dissociating ourselves from SFC has been arduous | |
| 20:14 | (and still is) | |
| 20:14 | Quozl_ | although samsongoddy has left, he did indicate a preference for both alex and walter, so i'll take his vote as +1. |
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| 20:14 | walterbender | No surprise there :P |
| 20:14 | MrBIOS | he’s back |
| 20:14 | pikurasa | samsongoddy: please vote on the previous motion |
| 20:14 | Quozl_ | #agreed motion Alex Perex to be Executive Director for Sugar Labs Inc. with all the responsibilities that the role entails. |
| 20:15 | samsongoddy | +1 |
| 20:15 | MrBIOS | and now the other position(s)? |
| 20:15 | pikurasa | There is also the possibility for CFO and secretary |
| 20:15 | Claudia <Claudia!~webchat18.27.196.14> has joined #sugar-meeting |
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| 20:15 | pikurasa | Hi Claudia |
| 20:15 | Claudia | Hello everyone |
| 20:15 | MrBIOS | welcome, Claudia |
| 20:15 | walterbender | pikurasa, would you be CFO? |
| 20:16 | pikurasa | I would, if that would be helpful. |
| 20:16 | MrBIOS | moves that Devin Ulibarri be given the position of Chief Financial Officer for Sugar Labs Inc. and all the responsibilities that the role entails. |
| 20:17 | walterbender | seconds |
| 20:17 | Quozl_ | +1 |
| 20:17 | Claudia | +1 |
| 20:17 | walterbender | +1 |
| 20:17 | samsongoddy | +1 |
| 20:17 | llaske | +1 |
| 20:18 | Quozl_ | #agreed MOTION 2019-25 |
| 20:18 | Devi Ulibarri to be Chief Financial Officer for Sugar Labs Inc. with all the responsibilities that the role entails. | |
| 20:18 | oops, will fix. | |
| 20:18 | walterbender | and secretary? |
| 20:19 | MrBIOS | nominates Walter |
| 20:19 | Quozl_ | #agreed MOTION 2019-25 Devin Ulibarri to be Chief Financial Officer for Sugar Labs Inc. with all the responsibilities that the role entails. |
| 20:19 | pikurasa | (reminder: All these positions do not necessarily need to be from this pool of people) |
| 20:19 | walterbender | I'm OK with writing up meeting notes... |
| 20:19 | (reminder: we can make changes later) | |
| 20:20 | Claudia | ok, pikurasa |
| 20:20 | Quozl_ | i think alex should be secretary, because of the communication bandwidth that must occur once the secretary is someone other than the chief executive. |
| 20:21 | walterbender | if that works for Kyle +1 |
| 20:21 | MrBIOS | okay, I am not opposed to it in theory, but I can honestly say I don’t think I’ll be the best secretary, and would propose it be changed in the future, if someone is willing. |
| 20:21 | Quozl_ | "one person can hold all of those titles" is the answer we already have. |
| 20:21 | MrBIOS: you can delegate minute taking to walter. | |
| 20:22 | walterbender | +1 |
| 20:22 | MrBIOS | +1 |
| 20:22 | Quozl_ | motion please? |
| 20:23 | pikurasa | moves that Walter Bender be given the position of Secretary for Sugar Labs Inc. and all the responsibilities that the role entails. |
| 20:23 | Quozl_ | +1 |
| 20:23 | llaske | +1 |
| 20:23 | samsongoddy | +1 |
| 20:23 | Claudia | +1 |
| 20:23 | walterbender | sits this vote out |
| 20:23 | Claudia | It would be good to even think about the governance structure we need |
| 20:24 | Quozl_ | #agreed MOTION 2019-26: Alex Perex to be Secretary for Sugar Labs Inc. with all the responsibilities that the role entails. |
| 20:25 | walterbender | Quozl_, please reread pikurasa 's motion |
| 20:25 | I was surprised by it. | |
| 20:25 | MrBIOS | yes, need to correct that :P |
| 20:25 | walterbender | but am OK either way |
| 20:25 | Quozl_ | heh. i got that wrong, sorry. |
| 20:25 | MrBIOS | #unagreed? |
| 20:25 | Quozl_ | #agreed MOTION 2019-26: Walter Bender to be Secretary for Sugar Labs Inc. with all the responsibilities that the role entails. |
| 20:26 | walterbender | :) |
| 20:26 | Claudia | thanks |
| 20:26 | pikurasa | Claudia is right. We assigned ourselves to come up with a governance structure by the end of August. |
| 20:26 | Quozl_ | i doubt any of us have time for that. can we just borrow someone elses? |
| 20:27 | walterbender | +1 |
| 20:27 | our previous one was not so bad... | |
| 20:27 | pikurasa | of course we were not going to do it from scratch. |
| 20:27 | walterbender | just the part about the SFC was broken |
| 20:27 | pikurasa | I thought we were going to start from our previous structure and make a few modifications. |
| 20:28 | MrBIOS: I believe you were assigned. Did you make any progress, by any chance? | |
| 20:28 | Claudia | not from scratch, but an opportunity to think about changes |
| 20:29 | MrBIOS | I’ve not been able to find much “existing structure” although I’ve looked. I have looked over the wiki extensively, and now need to look over the _laptop.org_ wiki to find and extract things specific to Sugar. |
| 20:29 | pikurasa | https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/[…]r_Labs/Governance |
| 20:30 | MrBIOS | yes, I’ve read it, and it’s definitely our base |
| 20:30 | one thing I’d like us to consider re-evaluating is the number of board members | |
| 20:31 | does anyone have any opinions on the “seven oversight board member” dictate? | |
| 20:31 | Quozl_ | motion; reduce the number of board members to five for the next election |
| 20:31 | MrBIOS | there is obviously benefit in it being an odd number. Seconded. |
| 20:31 | walterbender | +1 |
| 20:31 | samsongoddy | +1 |
| 20:32 | pikurasa | +1 |
| 20:32 | Quozl_ | darn wiki always expires my session before the end of the meeting. |
| 20:32 | Claudia | Hmmm |
| 20:32 | I am not sure I agree... | |
| 20:33 | MrBIOS | I would like to revive the goal of having an advisory board, and would like to solicit suggestions of potential members of said board. Have we ever had a functional advisory board? |
| 20:33 | walterbender | +1 |
| 20:33 | I can think of lots of great people | |
| 20:34 | MrBIOS | walterbender: we should put together a list of potential candidates, would a wiki page be an appropriate place for that? |
| 20:34 | I have at least one or two people in mind | |
| 20:34 | Claudia | how many people? |
| 20:34 | walterbender | Sure. |
| 20:34 | I think it can be a large group. | |
| 20:34 | MrBIOS | Claudia: great question, I agree it should be larger than the board. Maybe 10-15? |
| 20:35 | it may make sense for there to be no hard cap on the number of members, but have a written criteria for how new advisory board members get appointed? | |
| 20:36 | Claudia | if we have an advisory board, I am ok with reducing the number of board members to five |
| 20:37 | walterbender | yes... |
| 20:37 | pikurasa | I think having an advisory board is a good decision. |
| 20:37 | Claudia | +1 |
| 20:38 | pikurasa | Claudia: is your main concern with a smaller board due to diversity? |
| 20:38 | walterbender | Cynthia, Brian Smith, Brian Silverman, Baktiar, Harriett, Kehinde, ... I can go on |
| 20:40 | samsongoddy | Kehinde? |
| 20:40 | Claudia | pikurasa: not my first thought, but yes... |
| 20:40 | MrBIOS | also, as a sidenote, I would like to make an effort to have more gender diversity on both the board and a future advisory board, especially given the ratio of women to men in education. |
| 20:40 | Claudia | I am afraid we would not have quorum and the support to advance what we need |
| 20:40 | walterbender | Someone I met who has a great background whom you should meet |
| 20:40 | pikurasa | Anything to discuss on this topic? Is this something we need to vote on. If so, please motion. |
| 20:41 | MrBIOS | of course, that means convincing or recruiting suitable folks, which all of you can help with, potentially. |
| 20:41 | samsongoddy | oh great |
| 20:41 | pikurasa | (sorry, I typed that at a time when there was not as much activity.. then pressed enter after all the activity began again) |
| 20:41 | samsongoddy | I have one topic |
| 20:42 | pikurasa | samsongoddy: what is the topic? |
| 20:42 | samsongoddy | #opensourcefestival |
| 20:42 | I sent a mail to the board some days back about it | |
| 20:43 | Quozl_ | i couldn't see how it related to sugar labs. i thought it was a mistake. |
| 20:43 | pikurasa | https://festival.oscafrica.org/ |
| 20:43 | Claudia | + 1 to a gender diversity both at board and advisory group |
| 20:44 | MrBIOS | to quote from your e-mail, “The Open Source Community Africa is launching the first-ever Open Source Summit / Festival. It is the most significant open-source gathering on the continent, and the first conference is going to be in Lagos, Nigeria, the February 20th-22nd of February 2020.” |
| 20:44 | walterbender | samsongoddy, I wrote back and had some questions... do you have answers? |
| 20:44 | MrBIOS | walterbender: I do not recall seeing that e-mail |
| 20:44 | samsongoddy | I didn't see any email |
| 20:44 | from you walterbender | |
| 20:45 | pikurasa | "sponsoring the conference" -- what do you mean by "sponsor" |
| 20:45 | like fiscal sponsor? | |
| 20:45 | walterbender | looks in his outbox |
| 20:45 | MrBIOS | Quozl_: any presence we were to have there would probably be in an “awareness building” capacity. |
| 20:45 | pikurasa | or just have a booth? |
| 20:45 | samsongoddy | not fiscal sponsor, conference sponsorship |
| 20:46 | MrBIOS | samsongoddy: any rough idea what that would cost, dollar-wise? |
| 20:46 | pikurasa | I guess that is what I meant... :p |
| 20:46 | walterbender | my mistake. it was in GH, not email, that I asked you... you said you'd get back to me. |
| 20:46 | samsongoddy | Yes, I know that question would come up, I sent a prospectus. |
| 20:47 | MrBIOS | in general, I am supportive of efforts to build awareness that we are not a ‘dead’ open source project, and recruit new users/members/testers. |
| 20:47 | but it can’t break the bank (account) | |
| 20:47 | walterbender | But I need the details that I asked for... |
| 20:47 | samsongoddy | Yes, walterbender. I recall we had that conversation that is why I sent a mail to the board including a sponsorship prospectus |
| 20:48 | walterbender | "Meanwhile, you should write a brief statement on how the sponsorship will benefit the community and what amount you are asking for and how the $ will be used." |
| 20:49 | pikurasa | samsongoddy: by "conflict of interest" do you mean you think you would benefit financially, or do you mean that you are involved in the conference and the support would benefit the conference itself? |
| 20:49 | Claudia | if the sponsorship gives SLB some visibility and the kinds of gain described by MrBIOS, we can consider... if the amount is reasonable |
| 20:49 | MrBIOS | Walter, in the link to the PDF provided by samsongoddy, there are four sponsorship levels, Silver, Gold, Diamond, and Headline. Given that Silver is $5,000, I believe that’s the only sponsorship option that’s practical to consider at the present time. |
| 20:49 | Quozl_ | samsongoddy: how many of the ten sponsorship slots have been taken already? |
| 20:49 | MrBIOS | Silver includes exhibition space. |
| 20:50 | samsongoddy | Quozl_, none. |
| 20:50 | Claudia | but it cost also to take advantage of those opportunities... who will be there? do we need to have a booth? materials? etc |
| 20:50 | pikurasa | I see, $5000-20,000 |
| 20:50 | MrBIOS | and our “Logo on Holding Slides shown between talks" |
| 20:50 | - Company name and logo in attendee e-mails | |
| 20:50 | Quozl_ | no rush then, and the event is in february. |
| 20:50 | MrBIOS | - Opportunity to speak at the festival |
| 20:51 | pikurasa | My knee jerk reaction is that I do not think we are in a position to do that because we do not know when we will have financial freedom. Also, any big financial decision needs to be made within a larger strategic plan. |
| 20:51 | MrBIOS | - Three free festival registrations |
| 20:51 | pikurasa: I agree, that’s my knee-jerk as well, although I would personally like to see if it’s possible to make happen. | |
| 20:51 | pikurasa | Like, first we need to come up with a strategic plan for SLI, then we need to decide what things help support our plan. |
| 20:51 | MrBIOS | To me, Gold/Diamond/Headline level sponsorship is a non-starter. |
| 20:52 | pikurasa | Otherwise, we risk burning up, which no one wants us to do. |
| 20:52 | Quozl_ | i've a more fundamental objection; i don't think it will generate any response for us as a project. |
| 20:52 | walterbender | before the time runs out, I have two other topics... |
| 20:52 | pikurasa | samsongoddy: but I thank you for bringing it up. Please continue ot do so |
| 20:52 | walterbender: what is up? | |
| 20:52 | MrBIOS | Quozl_: that is a possibility, however it’s not possible to prove/disprove. |
| 20:53 | Claudia | agree, MrBIOS |
| 20:53 | samsongoddy | I will send a follow up based on walterbender requests about benefits |
| 20:53 | walterbender | it could relate to GCI/GSoC for next year... |
| 20:53 | pikurasa | It is not a bad idea, but we need to have a larger plan |
| 20:53 | Quozl_ | like i'd say gsoc 2019 has given us no response; no new developers, testers, or users. |
| 20:54 | walterbender | Quozl_, we've had post GSoC contributions from at least one student. |
| 20:54 | and I expect she'll keep contributing. | |
| 20:54 | MrBIOS | more fundamentally, I think we need to focus inward in the short term, and have a strategy/strategic plan, before consciously choosing to focus outward |
| 20:54 | Quozl_ | walterbender: in music blocks? that's great, i didn't hear about that. |
| 20:55 | samsongoddy | she: Favour Kelvin? |
| 20:55 | walterbender | yes, and yes |
| 20:55 | samsongoddy | yes, she works with me. So I agree |
| 20:55 | walterbender | and several GSoC students have offered to help mentor in GCI, if we do it, which brings me to one of my two topics. |
| 20:56 | Do we want to do it this year? | |
| 20:56 | MrBIOS | when is it, exactly? |
| 20:56 | pikurasa | yes from me |
| 20:56 | walterbender | Quozl_, raised some legitimate concerns about mentoring |
| 20:56 | it begins after thanksgiving | |
| 20:57 | runs to mid January | |
| 20:57 | Quozl_ | i'd have to look up when thanksgiving is. |
| 20:57 | walterbender | sorry... late november |
| 20:57 | or early december. | |
| 20:57 | Quozl_ | ah, okay, a few weeks after melbourne cup day. |
| 20:58 | walterbender | exactly :) |
| 20:58 | MrBIOS | personally, I think it might be wise to consider not participating in GCI this iteration |
| 20:59 | Quozl_ | what realyl gets me is the sense of entitlement these students are turning up with. we don't have the resources to be a university tutor to them. |
| 20:59 | walterbender | I think we can find enough mentors and I know there are plenty of Music Blocks projects... I worry about sugar core projects/mentors |
| 20:59 | MrBIOS | going back to the “we need to focus inward” theme |
| 20:59 | llaske | +1 walterbender |
| 20:59 | same for Sugarizer | |
| 20:59 | Quozl_ | and they don't seem to think "whats in it for them?" |
| 20:59 | MrBIOS | perhaps on a smaller scale? How many students have we historically had in GCI? |
| 21:00 | +participating in | |
| 21:00 | walterbender | gci is not gsoc |
| 21:00 | MrBIOS | I am aware of the difference |
| 21:00 | walterbender | it is a very different type of mentoring |
| 21:00 | Quozl_ | gci is not a mentoring load, although they do tend to ask stupid questions as a matter of course. |
| 21:00 | MrBIOS | sure, that’s to be expected. |
| 21:00 | walterbender | I am not sure what Quozl_ is referring to in the context of gci |
| 21:00 | I do see it in some students in gsoc | |
| 21:01 | I don't see how you learn w/o stupid questions | |
| 21:01 | MrBIOS | tends to agree. |
| 21:01 | walterbender | and IMHO, we've gotten more value out of GCI than any other initiative we have done. |
| 21:02 | samsongoddy | I think we should do GCI, yes the kids sometimes can get crazy sometimes, but we should. |
| 21:02 | walterbender | and it more than any other program is aligned with our mission |
| 21:02 | Quozl_ | i think alignment with mission is secondary. we must first surivive. |
| 21:03 | pikurasa | so let's do it. Please motion. I got to go soon. |
| 21:03 | walterbender | I don't see how this gets in the way of survival |
| 21:03 | Claudia | I am in support of GCI |
| 21:03 | llaske | We had very amazing students in GCI on Sugarizer tasks. Some activities (Abacus, Reflection, ...) was written by GCI students |
| 21:03 | Quozl_ | anything gets in the way of survival when survival is at risk. |
| 21:03 | walterbender | it is one of the few opportunities we have for bringing in new people |
| 21:03 | Claudia | and I wouldn't call the student's questions stupid |
| 21:03 | pikurasa | Quozl_: As a NPO our alignment with mission is our survival in many ways |
| 21:03 | walterbender | and generally we get a few great ones... |
| 21:04 | pikurasa | I agree with Claudia: I would be embarrassed if a student read this thread and associated Quozl_'s comments with my own |
| 21:05 | needs to pick up his two year old son | |
| 21:05 | walterbender | motion: Sugar Labs to apply to participate in Google Code In 2019-2020 |
| 21:05 | llaske | I'm afraid no one will read this thread :-) |
| 21:05 | Seconded | |
| 21:05 | pikurasa | second |
| 21:05 | +1 | |
| 21:05 | llaske | +1 |
| 21:05 | Claudia | +1 |
| 21:05 | walterbender | +1 |
| 21:05 | samsongoddy | +1 |
| 21:05 | Quozl_ | -1 |
| 21:05 | pikurasa | llaske: you would be surprised |
| 21:05 | Quozl_ | motion agreed. |
| 21:05 | pikurasa | Thanks |
| 21:06 | walterbender | I will prepare the application |
| 21:06 | one last topic from me | |
| 21:06 | llaske | Could help if you want |
| 21:06 | walterbender | #topic release |
| 21:06 | Quozl_ | #agreed motion 2019-27; apply to participate in Google Code In 2019-2020. |
| 21:07 | MrBIOS | Quozl_: would you be willing to consider sitting on the advisory board? I think it would be a good thing to have at least one former-SLOB there. |
| 21:07 | walterbender | I think the board should offically ACK and celebrate Sugar Live Build 20191002 with Sugar 0.116 and Python 3 |
| 21:07 | Quozl_ | MrBIOS: this is as a substitute for mailing list engagement? |
| 21:07 | MrBIOS | seconded. ACK and great work. |
| 21:07 | walterbender | almost singularly an effort by Quozl_ |
| 21:07 | well done sir. | |
| 21:08 | pikurasa | +1 |
| 21:08 | Quozl_ | yes, we have no other active developers on sugar since gsoc. |
| 21:08 | walterbender | we need to fix that |
| 21:08 | pikurasa | bye |
| 21:08 | pikurasa has quit IRC | |
| 21:08 | MrBIOS | we should try to make it something that can continue to be built in an automated fashion, and kept alive/active by folks other than Quozl_ |
| 21:08 | Quozl_ | MrBIOS: soas. |
| 21:09 | Claudia | I have to go, I am sorry |
| 21:09 | Quozl_ | Claudia: bye. |
| 21:09 | walterbender | MrBIOS, let's try to find some time between now and the next board meeting to do some brainstorming |
| 21:09 | MrBIOS | Claudia: that’s fine, thank you for coming. |
| 21:09 | walterbender | thanks everyone |
| 21:09 | MrBIOS | walterbender: we should do it via Skype or something. |
| 21:09 | Claudia | thanks! |
| 21:09 | be everyone | |
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| 21:10 | MrBIOS | Quozl_: as a substitute for which ML engagement? I personally don’t think they’re mutually exclusive |
| 21:10 | but if you’d prefer to not be engaging on the ML, that’s fine. | |
| 21:10 | Quozl_ | MrBIOS: i'm saying i don't see a functional difference between an advisory board and participation in our mailing lists. |
| 21:11 | MrBIOS: if we haven't been able to sustain participation in our mailing lists, i don't see how asking people to do it as an advisory board is likely to achieve anything. | |
| 21:12 | MrBIOS | Quozl_: oh, well, in the context of an advisory board, we would be recruiting people who are active in “edu-tech” but not necessarily even aware of what Sugar is. Therefore, having someone who is aware of it, and of the institutional history of it, and of OLPC, would be useful |
| 21:13 | walterbender | and having period meetings to get their advice and input |
| 21:13 | MrBIOS | right. |
| 21:14 | Quozl_ | MrBIOS: it seems crazy; for me on sugar it would be switching from maintenance and release to talk-talk by people who won't be doing anything. |
| 21:14 | MrBIOS | then I guess we have our answer. I would rather not lose you in the former capacity. |
| 21:16 | walterbender | Another thing I meant to bring up in the meeting today: https://www.gnome.org/news/201[…]cation-challenge/ |
| 21:16 | I was thinking about a Python version of Music Blocks. | |
| 21:17 | do you think it would be of interest? useful to Sugar Labs? | |
| 21:17 | MrBIOS | I don’t know enough about it to make a judgement yet, but in theory, potentially. Is it all JS now? |
| 21:18 | walterbender | yes... |
| 21:18 | llaske | Music Blocks to learn Python ? |
| 21:18 | walterbender | modeled after the Python Turtle Blocks code. |
| 21:18 | but many improvements I have been meaning to backport. | |
| 21:19 | I thought it would be a nice vehicle for outreach to GNOME | |
| 21:19 | and Endless is already using some Sugar activities, including Turtle Blocks. | |
| 21:20 | I don't see any downside in applying. | |
| 21:20 | MrBIOS | got it. In that case, yes, i think it makes sense. I would also like to have a discussion about how we might go about having some coherence between Sugarizer and Sugar, when it comes to our vision, as well as potential practical such as some form of basic collaboration integration, etc. |
| 21:21 | walterbender | we need to get the Sugarizer apps to be compatible with the Sugar JS support... they drifted apart at some point. |
| 21:21 | MrBIOS | that’s something that we could issue a bounty for |
| 21:21 | walterbender | and I had not made much effort with Music Blocks since the synth I was using was incompatible with the old Browse |
| 21:22 | It should work in the new Browse though | |
| 21:22 | still, I think there is merit in a Python version. | |
| 21:22 | samsongoddy | +1 MrBIOS, I have a structure we should follow for bounty |
| 21:22 | walterbender | much prefers writing Python code |
| 21:22 | samsongoddy | I have worked with opencollective around bounty program |
| 21:22 | llaske | You're right there is some incompatibility issues on Sugar-Web layer. Some should be handle |
| 21:23 | walterbender | Sugar-Web needs some love |
| 21:23 | llaske, maybe we can design a series of GCI tasks to address this? | |
| 21:23 | would be great | |
| 21:23 | MrBIOS | walterbender: s/we/you/g :) |
| 21:23 | llaske | Sounds too complex for GCI |
| 21:24 | MrBIOS | that’s my concern as well, llaske |
| 21:24 | walterbender | don't underestimate these kids |
| 21:24 | the good ones can program circles around me. | |
| 21:24 | samsongoddy | MrBIOS, some bounty frameworks to follow https://docs.opencollective.co[…]velopers/bounties |
| 21:26 | walterbender | needs to run off to another meeting. TTYL |
| 21:28 | llaske | I have to go too |
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| 21:35 | Quozl_ | #endmeeting |
| 21:35 | meeting | Meeting ended Wed Oct 2 21:35:15 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. (v 0.1.4) |
| 21:35 | Minutes: http://meeting.sugarlabs.org/s[…]-02T20:00:06.html | |
| 21:35 | Log: http://meeting.sugarlabs.org/s[…]19-10-02T20:00:06 | |
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