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| 11:59 | walterbender | hola todas |
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| 14:33 | walterbender | hi |
| 14:33 | Hrishi_ | hey! |
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| 14:33 | walterbender | Hrishi_, wanna "#start-meeting"? |
| 14:34 | Hrishi_ | I do not remember how to use that. I am logging anyways :) |
| 14:34 | walterbender | #start-meeting |
| 14:34 | meeting | Meeting started Fri May 10 14:34:13 2019 UTC. The chair is walterbender. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
| 14:34 | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #endmeeting | |
| 14:34 | walterbender | #topic agenda |
| 14:34 | 1. regular meeting schedule | |
| 14:35 | Hrishi_ | Agenda is to discuss about project, and discuss how to achieve the solution. |
| 14:35 | walterbender | 2. other communication topics. |
| 14:35 | 3. the project | |
| 14:35 | 4. ideas for solutions | |
| 14:35 | #topic regular meeting times | |
| 14:36 | We should try to find a few times to all meet each week as a group. | |
| 14:36 | Any suggestions? | |
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| 14:37 | Hrishi_ | 230PM UTC every Friday. Here at #sugar-meetings |
| 14:37 | Ibiam | It seems Friday is a favourable day for the majority |
| 14:38 | Hrishi_ | Btw, when are we having regular meetings with all groups combined? |
| 14:38 | Ibiam | And the time is favorable too |
| 14:38 | Hrishi_ | hi jaskirat |
| 14:38 | walterbender | I can prob. do most Fridays at this time. |
| 14:38 | as far as the group meeting, I'd like to do it on Mondays, | |
| 14:38 | jaskirat | Hello everyone |
| 14:38 | walterbender | 16:30 ET, 20:30 UTC |
| 14:38 | hi jaskirat | |
| 14:39 | when is that IST? | |
| 14:39 | Hrishi_ | 10PM, favorable |
| 14:39 | walterbender | nice |
| 14:39 | I'll try to lock that down. Should almost always work for me. | |
| 14:39 | Hrishi_ | well, most of the students agreed to have 1630UTC as a meeting time |
| 14:40 | walterbender | I am uncertain if I can do 1630 with regularity, but I can try. |
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| 14:41 | Hrishi_ | I can always adjust if one or more mentors can't. |
| 14:41 | Ibiam | walterbender: is there a time that seems more favorable |
| 14:42 | walterbender | I will try to do 16:30 on Mondays for the group meeting... |
| 14:42 | and we will all meet re Dashboard on Fridays at this time. | |
| 14:42 | #topic communication | |
| 14:42 | Hrishi_ | Alright |
| 14:43 | walterbender | quite simply, let's use the devel list for all email |
| 14:43 | Ibiam | +1 |
| 14:43 | walterbender | I am less sacrosanct about other channels |
| 14:43 | jaskirat | +1 |
| 14:43 | Hrishi_ | So no private mail threads? |
| 14:43 | walterbender | but obviously IRC seems to work for everyone :) |
| 14:44 | maybe we can do an occasional Hangout? | |
| 14:44 | Hrishi_ | Should I make a hangouts group? |
| 14:44 | walterbender | sure |
| 14:45 | but let's default to IRC | |
| 14:45 | Hrishi_ | I really don't think that I should send an email for a small doubt to devel. |
| 14:45 | jaskirat | walterbender, I have observed that few students hesitate to communicate publically where they are not interacted directly with the specified mentors and they fails to demonstrates the thing publically. So what should be in that case |
| 14:45 | Hrishi_ | Yes, IRC + occasional hangouts (basic doubts, voice/video call)? |
| 14:46 | jaskirat | I used to interact with students on hangouts when they had some minor doubts too. |
| 14:47 | walterbender | jaskirat, I think that they need to learn to communicate publicly |
| 14:48 | oh course we won't prevent them from using private channels, but the community learns when the discussions are public. | |
| 14:48 | jaskirat | Okay |
| 14:48 | Hrishi_ | I will use Hangouts when there is no mentor available on IRC. Is that fine? |
| 14:49 | walterbender | OK... maybe to ping people to come to IRC :) |
| 14:49 | we should move on to the project | |
| 14:49 | #topic project | |
| 14:49 | Hrishi_, the floor is yours :) | |
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| 14:50 | Hrishi_ | Ok :) |
| 14:51 | This project consists 3 parts. 1) Sugar Dashboard 2) The widget which will modify the XO icon on desktop 3) Journal-like activity | |
| 14:51 | So I guess you have already seen a basic prototype working in one of the emails I sent. | |
| 14:52 | The UI is a bit different then the one I showed in my GSoC application | |
| 14:53 | walterbender | I have but I don't remember :p |
| 14:53 | link? | |
| 14:53 | Hrishi_ | wait a sec |
| 14:53 | (old) https://usercontent.irccloud-c[…]vYV/dashboard.gif | |
| 14:53 | (a screenshot from the work 3 days ago) https://usercontent.irccloud-c[…]lXyNuq4/10may.PNG | |
| 14:54 | jaskirat | This looks good. It would be great to match the UI with existing UI of Sugar activities. |
| 14:54 | Hrishi_ | I haven't been working on this since a few days because my exams starts from 13th, ends on 25th. (But will be working in between and regularly after 20th) |
| 14:54 | Ibiam | The new UI looks good |
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| 14:54 | Ibiam | But the overlapping of the figures don't |
| 14:54 | walterbender | I am confused by the new UI |
| 14:55 | Hrishi_ | walterbender : It is confusing indeed. There are no labels what is happening as of now |
| 14:55 | walterbender | on the left, calculate is selected but the right is a pie chart of everything |
| 14:55 | I think the overview is a nice idea | |
| 14:56 | and maybe a heatmap a la github would be good too | |
| 14:56 | Hrishi_ | walterbender : Sorry. Calculate is hovered, I didn;t click on it. The second image shows the home page |
| 14:56 | Ibiam | Yeah, a heat map would be good |
| 14:56 | walterbender | but the individual activities should be displayed with perhaps a grid showing their journal entries? |
| 14:56 | Hrishi_ | walterbender : I searched a lot for github like heatmap, but didn't found any library. |
| 14:57 | walterbender | I will find it for you. |
| 14:57 | Ibiam | Hrishi_: can we get an image where you click on it like in the first UI? |
| 14:57 | Where you click on an activity | |
| 14:57 | walterbender | Hrishi_, but let's settle on the design elements before too much coding. |
| 14:57 | Hrishi_ | walterbender : Yes, I am working on 1) when activity is clicked, show all journal entries, and files generated. |
| 14:57 | walterbender | I think org.laptop.Calculate is not very friendly |
| 14:58 | why not the icon and a hover text of the actual activity name? | |
| 14:58 | Hrishi_ | 2) Use Gtk.Assistant for Home page and Activity detail's page |
| 14:58 | walterbender | Hrishi_, can you make some mock ups to share? |
| 14:59 | Hrishi_ | Yes, activity bundle id's are not friendly. I just need to test that the pie chart works. |
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| 14:59 | Hrishi_ | walterbender : I can do that over the weekend. We need something like wireframes? |
| 14:59 | walterbender | yes |
| 15:00 | Hrishi_ | walterbender: "why not the icon and a hover text of the actual activity name?" So should I remove activity names? And use tooltips instead? That'd look cleaner if I can imagine |
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| 15:01 | Hrishi_ | ibiam: I will try to send a image later. I need to uncomment some code |
| 15:03 | walterbender | Hrishi_, where is the repo for all of this work? |
| 15:03 | Hrishi_ | I created it today. I will push the code after I clean up the code. |
| 15:04 | jaskirat | Hrishi have you seen stripe dashboard ? |
| 15:04 | It can be inspiring for developing sugar dashboard in terms of UI | |
| 15:04 | Ibiam | Hrishi_: "So should I remove activity names? And use tooltips instead? That'd look cleaner if I can imagine " from the UI, there's just activity bundle id's so instead of having that, why not have the activity icon and the activity name |
| 15:05 | walterbender | Hrishi_, FYI https://codepen.io/Kaperstone/pen/wrZqOV |
| 15:06 | Hrishi_ | Ibiam: Sorry, I was referring to the activities' list on the left. I will definitely change to not show bundle ids. This is just temporary |
| 15:07 | walterbender : I've started working on creating a custom heatmap widget. I am using a Gtk.Table. I am still figuring out, but will definitely take inspiration from this one | |
| 15:07 | walterbender | +1 |
| 15:08 | anything else for today? I need to jump off soon. | |
| 15:08 | jaskirat | I know some javascript bundles that has been designed for heat map and can be used and integrated with other softwares. I will ahare a link with you |
| 15:08 | Hrishi_ | Let's discuss the remaining part quickly. About the Tamagotchi widget |
| 15:08 | jaskirat : okay. Thanks :) | |
| 15:08 | walterbender | I was thinking about that lately... |
| 15:09 | Hrishi_ | walterbender, ibiam: I guess I have to probably work on this (/src/jarabe/view/buddyicon.py) and CanvasIcon? |
| 15:09 | walterbender | Let's start by figuring out what it should do and how it should look |
| 15:09 | then we can worry about how to integrate it | |
| 15:10 | Hrishi_ | I will need some help for this part. How can I change the XO icon real-time without (make/make install). |
| 15:10 | Ok | |
| 15:10 | walterbender | I don't know that it has to be "realtime" |
| 15:11 | Hrishi_ | walterbender : to put simply, how can I change the computer-xo icon without restarting the PC. |
| 15:11 | walterbender | but we can update the icon... there is a change icon activity that Ignacio wrote for me as part of GCI years ago. |
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| 15:11 | Hrishi_ | I need to make/make install after I make the change |
| 15:11 | walterbender | it has all the necessary glue, I think |
| 15:11 | Hrishi_ | Yes that is what I need. |
| 15:11 | walterbender | it is for any icon, but esp. for the XO icon |
| 15:12 | Hrishi_ | I did manage to change the icon. I was just trying it before the meeting :P |
| 15:12 | walterbender : okay. Where can I see the src? | |
| 15:12 | We will discuss about the Journal activity later? | |
| 15:13 | Ibiam | For the buddy icon, I think that it'll be nice to have it show the battery percentage at all times |
| 15:13 | A similar implementation is in browse activity | |
| 15:14 | Where the download icon updates as there's a download | |
| 15:14 | Hrishi_ | Ibiam: How can I emulate battery with a VM? I do not have a XO laptop. |
| 15:14 | Ibiam | Showing the download progress |
| 15:15 | walterbender | Hrishi_, I am still looking for the activity... |
| 15:16 | Ibiam | Hrishi_, the code needed would be to update the image with the battery life, you don't need to have an xo for that |
| 15:17 | walterbender | http://activities.sugarlabs.or[…]/sugar/addon/4683 |
| 15:17 | Hrishi_ | I've never seen a battery indicator in the Sugar UI. So that makes me think how it would work? |
| 15:17 | walterbender | not sure where the GH repo is... |
| 15:17 | needs to take off... I'll peek in when I get a chance. Thanks everyone. | |
| 15:18 | Hrishi_ | walterbender : Thank you! |
| 15:19 | Ibiam | Hrishi_, when you move your mouse toward the edge of your vm, the screen reduces a bit and shows some icons below and above it |
| 15:19 | Below by the right | |
| 15:19 | There's a battery indicator | |
| 15:19 | Hrishi_ | Ibiam: by pressing f6? |
| 15:20 | Ibiam | Nah |
| 15:20 | Move your mouse to the edge of your screen | |
| 15:20 | While in sugar | |
| 15:20 | And the screen would shrink a bit | |
| 15:21 | Revealing some icons above and below the screen | |
| 15:21 | Hrishi_ | Yes, that can be done by F6. But it doesn;t show battery |
| 15:22 | Ibiam | Yeah, I just checked |
| 15:22 | I think it did | |
| 15:22 | That was in the XOs | |
| 15:22 | Yeah you're right | |
| 15:22 | jaskirat | @Hrishi_: I am not officially a mentor for this project but this project is something I would love to get involved. So ThOugh I won't have a check on mentor dashboard unless I become mentor but please keep me posted about things. And let me know if I can be of any help |
| 15:23 | Hrishi_ | walterbender: Can we add jaskirat as a mentor too? |
| 15:23 | walterbender | yes |
| 15:23 | Hrishi_ | Any other suggestions for the widget? |
| 15:23 | Or we could discuss more over another meeting | |
| 15:25 | walterbender | done |
| 15:25 | Ibiam | Hrishi_, for the battery life |
| 15:25 | We can get it | |
| 15:26 | Using psutil | |
| 15:26 | I'll send you a link | |
| 15:26 | That's all from me | |
| 15:26 | jaskirat | Oh thanks @walterbender |
| 15:26 | Hrishi_ | Alright. We will discuss more over the next meeting/email thread/hangouts. For now, it is done |
| 15:26 | How do you end the meeting? | |
| 15:27 | walterbender | #end-meeting |
| 15:27 | meeting | Meeting ended Fri May 10 15:27:03 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. (v 0.1.4) |
| 15:27 | Minutes: http://meeting.sugarlabs.org/s[…]-10T14:34:13.html | |
| 15:27 | Log: http://meeting.sugarlabs.org/s[…]19-05-10T14:34:13 | |
| 15:27 | Hrishi_ | Thank you for the time and opportunity! Have a nice day! |
| 15:27 | jaskirat | Sure. Thanks |
| 15:28 | Ibiam | Hrishi_, https://stackoverflow.com/ques[…]ndows-with-python |
| 15:28 | The second answer | |
| 15:30 | Hrishi_ | Ibiam: we can use that indeed, same goes for disk space (which is also planned for widget). But I needed to see battery indicator in Sugar UI just to make things sure |
| 15:30 | Ibiam | There's no battery indicator |
| 15:30 | None that I can se | |
| 15:30 | See | |
| 15:30 | Except in XOs | |
| 15:31 | You can use the xo Icon as an indicator | |
| 15:32 | Hrishi_ | Alright. Thanks! |
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| 15:49 | satellit_ | Hirish: there is a battery indicator in sugar .113 soas in frame |
| 15:49 | Hirishi_ ^ | |
| 15:51 | Hrishi_ ^ | |
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| 16:38 | Hrishi_ | satellit_: thanks. will check. |
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| 16:55 | satellit_ | it is in right bottom corner of frame on mt t-410 notebook... |
| 16:55 | my* | |
| 16:58 | not sureif it will appear if vm install ...(need batter to be present ?) | |
| 17:05 | https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/[…]r_battery_app.jpg | |
| 17:05 | Hrishi_^ | |
| 17:54 | Hrishi_ | satellit_: I am running VM on a laptop. I will try tomorrow |
| 17:54 | satellit_ | k |
| 17:56 | this is screen shot (iphone) https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/[…]r_battery_app.jpg | |
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