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#sugar-meeting, 2018-06-20

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02:26 walterbender a-ritwik, hi
02:26 a-ritwik walterbender: hi
02:27 walterbender: I am removing things that we don't want from the keyboard.
02:28 walterbender good. it was very complex
02:29 any luck with press vs release?
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02:29 a-ritwik walterbender: I am trying, will tell when done.
02:29 pikurasa: hi
02:30 walterbender hi everyone
02:31 Sachiko, pikurasa : a-ritwik and I had a long discussion about 15 hour ago about the keyboard
02:31 pikurasa Hi Sachiko!
02:32 walterbender: what is the gist?
02:32 walterbender there are three phases
02:33 Sachiko Hi! I am actually now having non-official Music Blocks meeting with METI & BCG! ^^
02:33 walterbender 1) simply selecting a sequence of pitches
02:33 2) setting note values, e.g., 1/8 notes, 1/4 notes, etc. based on timing
02:34 pikurasa what do you mean "based on timing"?
02:34 walterbender how long you hold down the key
02:34 pikurasa Sachiko: Please give everyone our regards. And congrats to all of Japan on their soccer victory!!!
02:35 walterbender Yes. Exciting World Cup so far
02:35 3) a more realistic keyboard experience... timing between keys...
02:36 4) chords when we have multitouch
02:36 a-ritwik pikurasa: walter tested the keyboard few hours ago, now keyboard appears only when widget is clicked. you can test whenever you are free.
02:36 walterbender but I think 1 & 2 is the core
02:37 pikurasa how does it discern between a 1/4 note and 1/5 etc?
02:37 As "how long one plays a note" can have infinite possibilities
02:37 walterbender pikurasa, that will be tricky... not possible until #3
02:37 the timing is all relative
02:38 pikurasa perhaps the user specifies whether they are doing 2's, 3's etc... (?)
02:38 but, really, I am speculating... I need to see what has been implemented
02:38 walterbender pikurasa, that is possible... but I think we tend to make things over complicated
02:38 this is not a midi keyboard replacement.
02:39 pikurasa I agree, and that is why I mentioned to specify which power we are in
02:39 but, again, I need to test
02:39 fetches
02:40 walterbender a-ritwik, is is press or release in the current version?
02:40 a-ritwik walterbender: release in current version
02:40 walterbender OK...
02:40 pikurasa, right now, the note plays when you 'release" the key
02:41 pikurasa the default pitch should be as note name, not hertz
02:41 walterbender which makes the timing pretty impossible.
02:41 pikurasa, by default, I think we want a repeat loop to generate a few octaves
02:43 pikurasa I cannot produce a sound or generate blocks, but I can see the keyboard
02:44 Adding rhythm (note value) would make it complex
02:44 Perhaps for the summer, we implement the easiest design for note value production
02:44 a-ritwik pikurasa: switching tabs in browser stops sound.
02:44 pikurasa a-ritwik: I cannot create sound
02:45 walterbender pikurasa, scroll to the right to the higher octaves
02:45 and you prob. need to refresh the browser in betweem
02:45 pikurasa still nothing
02:46 I did refresh... try again...
02:46 I think I get the basic idea, however
02:47 got it to work!
02:47 walterbender pulls the latest code
02:47 pikurasa a-ritwik: what is the purpose of the "toggle keyboard" button?
02:47 Is it just an artifact of the old code?
02:48 a-ritwik pikurasa: nothing, it was there in old code, will remove it.
02:48 pikurasa: I will remove other unnecessary things also.
02:48 pikurasa a-ritwik: please
02:50 a-ritwik pikurasa: we need our keyboard to be draggable by mouse, just like other widget?
02:51 pikurasa a-ritwik: I defer to walter
02:51 I cannot imagine that it is a priority, however
02:51 riyalohia_ <riyalohia_!6acfd4de@gateway/web/freenode/ip.> has joined #sugar-meeting
02:51 a-ritwik pikurasa: okay
02:52 riyalohia_ walterbender, pikurasa, Sachiko, hi
02:53 pikurasa hi riyalohia_
02:53 a-ritwik: have you written a blogpost recently?
02:54 walterbender riyalohia_, hi
02:54 pikurasa walterbender: please respond to a-ritwik's query ^^
02:54 walterbender a-ritwik, the code for dragging you can take from the other widgets
02:55 a-ritwik pikurasa: no, upto 4 may only. I will update blog today.
02:55 walterbender a-ritwik, I would prioritize (1) press vs release
02:55 pikurasa a-ritwik: have you set aside rhythm ruler for now? No worries, but wondering
02:56 walterbender (2) setting the keys based on the pitches in the widget clamp
02:56 pikurasa Yes, press vs. release is important
02:56 walterbender (3) exporting pitch blocks as you play
02:56 then we can revisit the rest
02:56 pikurasa a-ritwik: Just in case you missed riyalohia_'s blogpost: https://medium.com/gsoc18-with[…]d-iv-dd7b43eb0a50
02:57 Sachiko: you should check out the blogpost, too, when you have the chance ^^
02:57 a-ritwik walterbender: okay.
02:58 pikurasa: I remember we need to show meters in rhythm ruler. I will mail some designs.
02:58 walterbender a-ritwik, OK... keep at it... things are progressing nicely
02:59 a-ritwik walterbender: Thanks
03:00 pikurasa a-ritwik: thanks
03:00 walterbender riyalohia_, why do the notes light up when you play in equal but not in just intonation?
03:00 riyalohia_ walterbender, they do light up in just intonation.
03:01 walterbender, there is a bug. If the popup (one which contains note information) appears before playback or during playback, the circles do not change their color. I am not able to figure out the reason.
03:02 Can you please help me with this?
03:06 walterbender I can look at it.
03:06 It seems the pop ups pop more than we want
03:07 riyalohia_ walterbender, what do you mean ?
03:08 walterbender I mean I had trouble with the pop up sensitivity
03:08 I was getting pop ups when I didn't expect them
03:09 is it hover or click?
03:09 riyalohia_ It is hover.
03:09 walterbender maybe it should be click?
03:09 riyalohia_ walterbender, I will change it.
03:10 walterbender I guess what happened was I'd move the mouse across the circle to get to the play button
03:10 and the hovers would appear
03:10 riyalohia_ walterbender, yes..
03:11 walterbender, I have used a simple div and span for creating pop-ups. Here is the reference https://www.w3schools.com/howt[…]e=tryhow_js_popup
03:14 walterbender it is nice...
03:14 but you could also trigger on the click event for the wheel nav item to show the popup
03:14 riyalohia_ walterbender, I will change the event listener to click.
03:15 walterbender +1
03:16 riyalohia_ walterbender, pikurasa, any other bugs or issues?
03:16 walterbender anyone else have any feedback for riya?
03:16 riyalohia_, I think the widget is coming along great
03:16 riyalohia_ walterbender, thank you :)
03:17 walterbender I think we will have to circle back to the core issues in musicutils again when you are done
03:17 riyalohia_ +1
03:17 walterbender some of the hardwired assumptions I made
03:17 that are wrong
03:17 riyalohia_ yes..
03:18 pikurasa I look forward to the add note features
03:18 walterbender I have nothing else for the moment...
03:18 pikurasa I see they have been started
03:18 I really love this widget
03:18 riyalohia_ pikurasa, yes..
03:19 walterbender pikurasa, I am traveling the next few days
03:19 pikurasa walterbender: and I have guitarfest next week
03:19 walterbender but I will prob. be able to do the Friday meeting nonetheless
03:19 riyalohia_ I will be working on add note feature this week
03:19 walterbender oh
03:19 what days?
03:19 hopes he is in town
03:19 pikurasa hmm... now that I think of it, I may be rehearsing during the Friday meeting...
03:19 walterbender I am in DC the rest of this week
03:19 pikurasa and may miss next week's meeting
03:20 walterbender and SF all of next week
03:20 pikurasa I perform next Tuesday evening (26th)
03:20 walterbender but back for the Friday meeting
03:20 I am in SF at the GCI summit :P
03:20 pikurasa walterbender: you could see the Saturday performance with Eliot again
03:20 walterbender rats
03:20 riyalohia_ I have a house warming party on 25th :P
03:20 walterbender this coming Saturday?
03:20 pikurasa next Sat
03:21 walterbender I should be around...
03:21 pikurasa walterbender: https://bostonguitarfest.squar[…]ace.com/concerts/
03:21 walterbender I am back late on the 28th
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03:22 pikurasa Cuban composer, Leo Brouwer is performing, too
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03:22 pikurasa I recommend catching him as well
03:22 good night!
03:23 riyalohia_ pikurasa, all the best for concert :)
03:23 pikurasa riyalohia_: thanks!
03:24 walterbender good night everyone
03:24 riyalohia_ pikurasa, walterbender, thank you
03:24 bye, gn
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