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| 10:57 | Quozl_ | . |
| 10:57 | Pro-Panda | :-D |
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| 11:00 | Quozl_ | #startmeeting |
| 11:00 | meeting | Meeting started Tue Jun 5 11:00:01 2018 UTC. The chair is Quozl_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
| 11:00 | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #endmeeting | |
| 11:00 | Quozl_ | #topic what we have been working on |
| 11:00 | walterbender | hi |
| 11:00 | vipulgupta2048 | Hi |
| 11:00 | Pro-Panda | Hi all |
| 11:00 | I was working on porting Sugar-Datastore to Python 3 | |
| 11:00 | Quozl_ | i've been working on the record activity some more, and it is nearly ready for release. today i added a mirror view button, added back the live viewfinder, and did flake8 fixes. |
| 11:01 | walterbender | had a busy week on a project... only got some work on pie menus done but most of it is landed/merged |
| 11:01 | Quozl_ | hi walter, vipul, rahul. |
| 11:02 | vipulgupta2048 | I been working on my script (bugs detected) and some other tasks indirectly related to Sugar Labs. (Mentoring in GSSoC) |
| 11:02 | rdrsadhu | Nothing much sugar. Added READMEs and improved documentation of chat, calculate, browse. Busy with exams. |
| 11:02 | walterbender | is back from traveling, so he can look for the repos for amazonas et al. |
| 11:03 | Quozl_ | hi Rudra. |
| 11:03 | rdrsadhu | Hello everyone! |
| 11:04 | Quozl_ | Pro-Panda: did you get your laptop working again? kernel updates will apply automatically, this may change things. |
| 11:04 | vipulgupta2048 | walterbender: did you have a chat with Yash ? |
| 11:04 | Pro-Panda | Yes, its working, thanks :D |
| 11:04 | walterbender | vipulgupta2048, yesterday |
| 11:05 | Pro-Panda | Firmware Update solved the issue :-) |
| 11:05 | Quozl_ | Pro-Panda: good. |
| 11:05 | Pro-Panda | is back to work ;-) |
| 11:05 | Quozl_ | any other what we have been working on responses? half a minute, and i'll move to next agenda topic. |
| 11:05 | vipulgupta2048 | Yes, I need to confirm with you. By my knowledge, we have 3 people as mentors in that program. |
| 11:06 | Me, Jasikrat and Yash | |
| 11:06 | walterbender | Quozl_, there is a another topic |
| 11:07 | some of the GSoC students signed up to mentor for a Python coding project | |
| 11:07 | Pro-Panda | I would also like to mentor |
| 11:07 | walterbender | they will help students with GTK 2-->3 conversion |
| 11:07 | I told them I was worried about the mentoring burden | |
| 11:08 | and reviewing immature patches | |
| 11:08 | vipulgupta2048 | Pro-Panda: I checked, I think the registrations are no closed. Sorry. I informed the same in an earlier meeting. |
| 11:08 | walterbender | most of the students have some experience in this space. |
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| 11:09 | Quozl_ | #topic another mentoring opportunity (inserted into agenda by popular demand) |
| 11:09 | Pro-Panda | vipulgupta2048: no worries |
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| 11:10 | walterbender | with all of these projects: GCI, GSoC,... it is the mentoring I worry about |
| 11:11 | Quozl_ | walterbender: some of the mentoring i've observed is very hands-off. it surprises me how little can be done and still call it mentoring. |
| 11:11 | walterbender | Quozl_, yes... |
| 11:11 | Quozl_ | ... on the other hand, what we can't see we can't discern. there could be private mentoring happening. |
| 11:12 | walterbender | Quozl_, I doubt it... |
| 11:12 | although in the case of at least 1 project, that is most certainly the case | |
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| 11:12 | Quozl_ | walterbender: yes, i doubt it too; if there were private mentoring, i'd have seen results of it in terms of skill growth. |
| 11:13 | walterbender | Quozl_, the is a fair amount of chatter in PRs and issues for some projects |
| 11:13 | Quozl_ | walterbender: yes. |
| 11:13 | #topic ongoing suitability of GitHub after purchase | |
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| 11:14 | Quozl_ | i've looked at the announced plans of GitHub and Microsoft and don't yet see any conflict with Sugar Labs code of conduct, licensing, or governance. so i expect we'll keep using it. |
| 11:14 | walterbender | I am in the wait and see camp, but I have had good experience with GitLab (inkscape) |
| 11:14 | I expect more advertising is coming our way :) | |
| 11:14 | vipulgupta2048 | Me too ( with Debian ) |
| 11:15 | Quozl_ | yes, i've touched gitlab with debian, fedora, freedesktop. it's the scale of deployment that would hurt us; we don't have enough systems@ volunteers to do that. |
| 11:16 | any other topics? | |
| 11:16 | walterbender | not from me |
| 11:16 | Pro-Panda | None from me |
| 11:16 | Quozl_ | #topic record activity testing |
| 11:16 | vipulgupta2048 | Not from me. |
| 11:17 | Quozl_ | if you have a camera, and sugar, then quozl/record-activity branch gtk3 needs testing. let me know if you test. |
| 11:17 | not suitable for fedora 18 though. valid for ubuntu 16.04 and 18.04 so far. | |
| 11:18 | Pro-Panda | will try to |
| 11:18 | Quozl_ | thanks. |
| 11:18 | motion to close meeting, all in favour? rdrsadhu? | |
| 11:18 | rdrsadhu | +1 |
| 11:18 | Pro-Panda | +1 |
| 11:19 | Quozl_ | #endmeeting |
| 11:19 | thanks all. | |
| 11:19 | meeting | Meeting ended Tue Jun 5 11:19:08 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. (v 0.1.4) |
| 11:19 | Pro-Panda | Thanks all |
| 11:19 | meeting | Minutes: http://meeting.sugarlabs.org/s[…]-05T11:00:01.html |
| 11:19 | Log: http://meeting.sugarlabs.org/s[…]18-06-05T11:00:01 | |
| 11:19 | rdrsadhu | Thank you. |
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| 11:31 | walterbender | hi vaibhavdaren |
| 11:31 | shall we begin | |
| 11:32 | vaibhavdaren | yes sir |
| 11:33 | walterbender | vaibhavdaren, I am enjoying seeing the old turtle examples getting new life |
| 11:33 | vaibhavdaren | thankyou :D |
| 11:33 | walterbender | I see you occasionally struggle with a project |
| 11:33 | and I want to give you some tips on debugging | |
| 11:34 | vaibhavdaren | much needed :D |
| 11:34 | walterbender | there is a debugging page somewhere for turtle... have you seen it? |
| 11:34 | looks for the link | |
| 11:35 | vaibhavdaren | I have been using old school method of "printing the values" |
| 11:36 | however i have seen the debugging aids provided in the guide present in the repo | |
| 11:36 | walterbender | cannot find the debugging guide, which suggests that most users cannot either |
| 11:37 | we should make it easier to find | |
| 11:37 | https://github.com/sugarlabs/m[…]ster/Debugging.md | |
| 11:37 | probably because I put it in the music blocks repo :P | |
| 11:38 | vaibhavdaren, maybe you can copy the guide into the Turtle Blocks repo? | |
| 11:38 | vaibhavdaren | yes |
| 11:38 | walterbender | and make any necessary changes/improvements |
| 11:38 | vaibhavdaren | ill also add examples |
| 11:39 | walterbender | vaibhavdaren, I noticed you were debugging using the comment block in some cases |
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| 11:40 | vaibhavdaren | walterbender,i use print mostly |
| 11:40 | walterbender | vaibhavdaren, I find using the play slow option particularly useful since it displays the values of lots of blocks as the code runs |
| 11:41 | that is how I debugged the cardiod project | |
| 11:41 | vaibhavdaren | yes running step by steps helps a lot |
| 11:41 | walterbender | have you tried the status widget? |
| 11:42 | You can print anything in the widget and it will show you the values as the code runs... | |
| 11:42 | boxes included | |
| 11:42 | vaibhavdaren | There is also a Status widget that can be programmed to show various paramters as per the figures above |
| 11:42 | https://turtle.sugarlabs.org/i[…]01761720&run=True | |
| 11:43 | this is the link of status widget example in the TBJS guide and its not working | |
| 11:43 | walterbender | let's make it point to a working example then... |
| 11:44 | vaibhavdaren | yes :D |
| 11:44 | walterbender | maybe something like a spiral (where the turn is !== 90) would be a nice example... so you see x, y, and heading changing |
| 11:45 | vaibhavdaren | candyvortex :D |
| 11:45 | walterbender | OK |
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| 11:45 | walterbender | vaibhavdaren, so what else do you have planned for this week? |
| 11:46 | vaibhavdaren | https://github.com/sugarlabs/t[…]ocksjs/issues/426 |
| 11:46 | i was trying to add the enhancement | |
| 11:46 | walterbender | OK |
| 11:47 | vaibhavdaren | my idea was to load a new blank example |
| 11:47 | walterbender | vaibhavdaren, I wonder if we might want to add more than a start block for a new project |
| 11:47 | vaibhavdaren | on clicking of button , whose id i have |
| 11:47 | walterbender | maybe the code for drawing a square? |
| 11:48 | staring at a blank screen is intimidating | |
| 11:48 | vaibhavdaren | ok |
| 11:48 | like in visual studio code | |
| 11:48 | we have "hello world" | |
| 11:48 | walterbender | you need to modify turtledefs.js to change what is loaded by default, as I recall |
| 11:48 | vaibhavdaren | always present in new file |
| 11:49 | walterbender | to square is hello world for turtle art :) |
| 11:49 | vaibhavdaren | we will have a square at start of program |
| 11:49 | got it :D | |
| 11:50 | walterbender | vaibhavdaren, work on these four things then and let's touch base on Thursday at the latest. |
| 11:50 | vaibhavdaren | ok sir :D |
| 11:50 | walterbender | I am tied up much of Wednesday |
| 11:50 | but I will be available for a quick question or two | |
| 11:51 | vaibhavdaren | yes you always reply :D |
| 11:51 | ok sir | |
| 11:51 | ill complete these | |
| 11:51 | walterbender | to review: (1) add debugging guide to Turtle Repo (and modify it appropriately) (2) fix the status block example (3) work on the new projects behavior (4) make to square be the default |
| 11:53 | vaibhavdaren | ok |
| 11:53 | walterbender | anything else for right now? |
| 11:53 | vaibhavdaren | no |
| 11:53 | walterbender | OK. TTYL |
| 11:53 | gets more coffee | |
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