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#sugar-meeting, 2018-05-23

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02:22 walterbender hi a-ritwik
02:23 a-ritwik Hii walterbender
02:23 walterbender a-ritwik, I think that what you should do with the meter block is to subdivide the ruler
02:25 a-ritwik Why?
02:27 walterbender a-ritwik, we can confirm with Devin, but here is my thought
02:28 if you divide by the meter, you have a decent place to start
02:28 you can recombine to make longer notes and further divide
02:28 but you are staring from a basic meter
02:28 but if the ruler has been divided, just restore that state (the default behavior now)
02:29 the other detail has to do with "balance"
02:29 it might be that the meter doesn't match the ruler length
02:29 e.g., 3/4 meter and a 1/1 ruler
02:29 so demarkate 3/4 and 1/4 to add up to 1.
02:29 a-ritwik yeah, the case of polyphonic
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02:30 walterbender pikurasa, let me review what we just discussed
02:30 pikurasa ok
02:30 walterbender if you divide by the meter, you have a decent place to start
02:30 you can recombine to make longer notes and further divide
02:30 but you are staring from a basic meter
02:30 but if the ruler has been divided, just restore that state (the default behavior now)
02:30 the other detail has to do with "balance"
02:30 it might be that the meter doesn't match the ruler length
02:31 e.g., 3/4 meter and a 1/1 ruler
02:31 so demarkate 3/4 and 1/4 to add up to 1.
02:31 a-ritwik so add in all rulers to make their size becomes equal to that of largest ruler.
02:31 walterbender a-ritwik, no need to do that
02:32 a-ritwik, if no meter block is used, then don't subdivide, but don't worry about the variable lengths (the current behavior)
02:32 if a meter block comes before the rhythm block, use that meter
02:32 a-ritwik okay, now understood.
02:32 walterbender so you could have multiple meter blocks interspersed with rhythm blocks
02:33 a bit of book keeping, but not too crazy
02:33 a-ritwik, you'll have to make some minor tweaks to the meter block code in logo.js
02:33 to check to see if you are inside of a rhythm ruler clamp
02:34 if so, then push that meter onto a list inside the widget
02:34 a-ritwik okay
02:34 walterbender and track the end of the list when you push rhythm blocks, so you know which meter block goes with which rhythm blocks
02:35 pikurasa, are you following all of this?
02:36 a-ritwik, also, you saw my comment on your PR?
02:36 did you see that there are lcd and gcd functions in utils/utils.js
02:36 pikurasa trying to...
02:36 walterbender no need to rewrite them
02:37 a-ritwik Yes, I saw . I will use already defined functions of GCD and LCM.
02:37 walterbender +1
02:38 a-ritwik I tried understanding code of pich time matrix and am working on issue 523.
02:38 walterbender OK
02:38 looks at 523
02:39 a-ritwik pikurasa: I have send you link to my PR
02:39 walterbender that'll be a nice patch...
02:39 pikurasa I am testing the PR, but unsure what I should be looking at specifically
02:40 pressing play in rhythm ruler, I do not see anything different...
02:40 what specifically can I do to test the changes?
02:41 a-ritwik the output is currently shown in console
02:41 walterbender didn't see the output either
02:42 pikurasa I don't see anything in the output
02:42 a-ritwik There is an oscilltor icon having name Meter Size. Clicking on that shows output.
02:42 pikurasa And you get this array a-ritwik??
02:43 walterbender oh... I did't notice the "ocsillator" button
02:43 a-ritwik and the LCM of their denominator
02:43 walterbender you need to click on that to see the output
02:45 pikurasa a-ritwik: the bottom number is LCM?
02:45 a-ritwik pikurasa: yes
02:46 pikurasa okay
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02:50 walterbender hi rishabhnambiar[m
02:50 hi riyalohia
02:50 riyalohia walterbender, hi!
02:50 walterbender a-ritwik, any other questions/issues?
02:51 riyalohia, I haven't reviewed your latest commit yet
02:51 was tied up all day
02:51 a-ritwik No
02:51 walterbender but I will look first thing tomorrow morning
02:51 pikurasa a-ritwik: I don't really have any comments for your PR. It looks to be work needed in order to implement something further.
02:51 riyalohia pikurasa, hi!
02:52 pikurasa hi riyalohia
02:52 a-ritwik pikurasa: I will update nny PR with Walter's suggestions.
02:52 walterbender a-ritwik, I will keep an eye out for your changes
02:52 riyalohia walterbender, according to pikurasa's suggestion, I have added pitch in hertz block for status widget, added 1/3 comma meantone ratios and initiated temperament block.
02:53 walterbender riyalohia, that is great
02:53 pikurasa at some point, we need a couple clicks (2) in time before the start of rhythm ruler playback, I think. Otherwise it is hard to anticipate the first beats.
02:54 walterbender riyalohia, I will comment on the temperament name block code... it is a bit broken, but easy to fix
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02:54 riyalohia walterbender, okay!
02:54 walterbender pikurasa, can you write up in more detail in the issue about that...
02:55 755
02:55 https://github.com/sugarlabs/m[…]blocks/issues/755
02:56 riyalohia, otherwise, I think you should start to block out the core code for the widget
02:56 riyalohia walterbender, sure!
02:57 walterbender, pikurasa : Did you see the designs I send in my recent email ?
02:58 pikurasa riyalohia: I am looking now. I have also had some long days recently
02:58 riyalohia pikurasa, no problem :)
02:59 walterbender riyalohia, I think that they are adequate to get started
02:59 pikurasa riyalohia: I am looking at "equal widget circle". I like it. I think we need a thin circle visible to show all the potential points
03:00 riyalohia walterbender, okay. I will initiate the basic widget layout :)
03:00 pikurasa basically just a circle where these points may land
03:00 riyalohia pikurasa, I will add it.
03:00 walterbender riyalohia, if you include a background image in the widget, we can adjust it as necessary
03:01 sort of like what I do to display the coordinate grids
03:01 pikurasa riyalohia: yes, like what you have for arbitrary, but for all
03:02 riyalohia walterbender, you mean the circumference for the circle ?
03:03 pikurasa These designs make better sense to my brain. Thanks riyalohia
03:03 riyalohia pikurasa, welcome :)
03:03 walterbender pikurasa, while I think of it, can you test https://github.com/sugarlabs/m[…]locks/issues/1086
03:04 pikurasa, I made a change today that may have impacted it
03:04 pikurasa, did you see my crazy Twin Peaks transcription?
03:04 https://musicblocks.sugarlabs.[…]80972306&run=True
03:05 I tried to do it with a fair amount of structure
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03:09 pikurasa walterbender: twin peaks?
03:09 The link is for Garlton Board
03:09 confused...
03:10 huh, I needed to refresh it again to see
03:10 ...that is weird
03:11 walterbender Maybe I pasted the wrong link???
03:11 try https://musicblocks.sugarlabs.[…]61157223&run=True
03:13 pikurasa no, I think this behavior has been happening recently, don't know why...
03:13 This is quite a bit of work, Walter!
03:14 riyalohia: do you have any questions?
03:14 riyalohia pikurasa, no.
03:16 walterbender pikurasa, it is pretty repetitive, so not so hard. But I was having trouble with the LY output -- hence a patch earlier today and my request for testing
03:16 pikurasa walterbender: okay, I will look at output. If there is a score that you used as reference, please email it to me
03:17 riyalohia: thanks for adding different type of meantone
03:17 riyalohia pikurasa, welcome :)
03:18 pikurasa riyalohia: please add pythagorean (up to a certain point, say 24 pitches) and some other common equal temperament systems
03:18 for the default
03:18 riyalohia pikurasa, I will add them.
03:19 walterbender pikurasa, sure... but maybe you can also look at the examples from the issue to make sure they work as expected.
03:21 pikurasa like 5 and 7... maybe 24 and 53 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equal_temperament
03:21 and I suppose we should have Well Temperament, too https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Well_temperament
03:22 walterbender we can add many more temperaments (from that great book you had lent me)
03:22 riyalohia, any questions?
03:23 riyalohia pikurasa, I will add them.
03:23 walterbender, no.
03:23 walterbender is going to head to bed then...
03:23 pikurasa is going cross-eyed with sleepiness
03:23 walterbender riyalohia, I will comment on the PR over coffee in the morning :)
03:23 riyalohia walterbender, okay :)
03:24 walterbender only babysits Mondays... pikurasa does it 24/7 :)
03:24 riyalohia walterbender , pikurasa : bye, gn :)
03:25 pikurasa thank you!
03:25 good night!
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