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| 16:32 | jkridner | 3.5 hours to meeting time for GSoC? |
| 16:41 | walterbender | yes |
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| 18:27 | Unimauro | Hi friends |
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| 18:53 | walterbender | hola todas |
| 18:56 | rishabhnambiar[m | Hi :) |
| 19:04 | samsongoddy | Hello |
| 19:04 | 56 minutes to go | |
| 19:33 | Quozl_ | g'day. |
| 19:48 | samsongoddy | Hello |
| 19:52 | walterbender | making a beet cake... just pulled it out of the oven. yum. |
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| 19:56 | samsongoddy | is thinking on how to clone walter's beet cake 🤣 |
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| 19:57 | dzho | sugarlabs/beetcake-activity |
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| 20:00 | walterbender | show of hands please from SLOB memnbers |
| 20:00 | I see samsongoddy and llaske here | |
| 20:00 | CanoeBerry2, are you here? | |
| 20:01 | ignacio, ? | |
| 20:01 | sverma, ? | |
| 20:01 | samsongoddy | 👐👐 |
| 20:01 | walterbender | We can get started... |
| 20:01 | #start-meeting | |
| 20:01 | meeting | Meeting started Fri Mar 2 20:01:39 2018 UTC. The chair is walterbender. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
| 20:01 | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #endmeeting | |
| 20:02 | sverma | Here |
| 20:02 | walterbender | Welcome to the monthly SL oversight board meeting |
| 20:02 | A few quick topics to begin | |
| 20:02 | #topic GSoC | |
| 20:02 | We have been accepted into Google Summer of Code | |
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| 20:02 | llaske | yes |
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| 20:02 | walterbender | We will be accepting applications from students beginning 12 March. |
| 20:03 | llaske | Nice news |
| 20:03 | We've got work to be done on the project list | |
| 20:03 | walterbender | At the end of the month, we'll convene the mentors to decide which proposals look worthwhile |
| 20:03 | llaske | Some projects are still HTML/CSS only: Making a Beginner Guide, Sugar Labs Social. James explain here : http://lists.sugarlabs.org/arc[…]ruary/055050.html, how to transform it |
| 20:03 | walterbender | llaske, yes... that is an ongoing process |
| 20:04 | llaske | We need to do the process before student application |
| 20:04 | Claudia_ | Hello |
| 20:04 | walterbender | hi Claudia_ |
| 20:04 | llaske | hi |
| 20:04 | Claudia_ | So happy to be here.. finally |
| 20:04 | llaske | I'm sorry to say also that because it's more about packaging than development I think that Sugarizer Primero is not a good candidate for a GSoC project. |
| 20:04 | Claudia_ | but I won't be here the entire time |
| 20:05 | I am on a cab... and will get to the airport in 25 min | |
| 20:05 | walterbender | We should consider our own summer program down the road, because we have many pressing needs beyond development |
| 20:06 | elverma | +1 |
| 20:06 | walterbender | and if we cannot use GSoC for addressing them, then we should find another way |
| 20:06 | llaske | yes good idea |
| 20:07 | walterbender | FWIW, I am more interested in attracting strong candidates to our project than the specifics of the proposal. |
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| 20:07 | walterbender | But we must work within the Google rules for this program |
| 20:07 | llaske | May be we could do a separate project page |
| 20:07 | walterbender | The good news is we have some strong contributions already. |
| 20:07 | llaske | with projects not only with development |
| 20:07 | walterbender | llaske, yes... we can make a separate project page |
| 20:08 | but we'll need to think about how to fund those projects... | |
| 20:08 | samsongoddy | +1 |
| 20:08 | walterbender | Perhaps after the goals discussion we can touch on this |
| 20:08 | llaske | Another point on GSoC |
| 20:08 | There is an inflation about number of mentors. It seems that everyone could add freely its name in the Mentor column and have a chance to win a free travel to San Francisco :-) | |
| 20:09 | Of course, everyone is welcome to help but mentoring is a serious task implying very good knowledge of technical stuff and working one to one with mentee, it's not as simple as that to be a GCI mentor. | |
| 20:09 | walterbender | llaske, I don't think a "free trip" is what is motivating people |
| 20:10 | but that said, once we have the projects confirmed, we'll hone the list | |
| 20:10 | llaske | Of course. |
| 20:10 | I suggest that at end the "official" mentor for each project will be only the first name of the column. | |
| 20:10 | walterbender | two or three mentors per intern |
| 20:10 | who are committed | |
| 20:10 | llaske, you mean on the wiki list? | |
| 20:11 | llaske | yes |
| 20:11 | walterbender | llaske, that is just project ideas |
| 20:11 | it is not specific to what the students write in their proposals | |
| 20:11 | it has no real meaning except as a place to ask questions | |
| 20:11 | llaske | but at end we need to have pair: 1 mentor / 1 mentee |
| 20:12 | walterbender | yes... |
| 20:12 | based on the projects we accept | |
| 20:12 | GrannieB | Huh? why? |
| 20:12 | walterbender | here is how it works: |
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| 20:12 | walterbender | 1. we advertise ideas in the wiki and have mentors who can talk about these ideas listed |
| 20:13 | 2. we work with the students on their proposals | |
| 20:13 | 3. we vet the proposals, and assign relevant mentors | |
| 20:13 | 4. we propose our list to google | |
| 20:13 | 5. they tell us how many slots we get | |
| 20:14 | 6. we make our final assignments | |
| 20:14 | GrannieB | Do they ever let 2 interns work on different parts of one project? |
| 20:14 | walterbender | so the mentor list today in the wiki is only loosely coupled to what we will end up doing |
| 20:14 | llaske | No GrannieB, it's not possible |
| 20:14 | walterbender | GrannieB, that is up to us |
| 20:14 | llaske | One student by project |
| 20:14 | walterbender | llaske, It depends |
| 20:15 | llaske | If we want two students, we need to split the project into two projects |
| 20:15 | Claudia_ | Do you have the wiki link? |
| 20:15 | walterbender | yes... but that is natural |
| 20:15 | Claudia_ | I am connecting from my phone |
| 20:15 | walterbender | https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Summer_of_Code/2018 |
| 20:16 | llaske, GrannieB was explcit: "different parts" | |
| 20:16 | llaske | ok, in that case, it's okay |
| 20:16 | walterbender | we should move on... lots of other topics today. |
| 20:16 | llaske | let's move |
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| 20:16 | walterbender | #topic ombudsman |
| 20:17 | Claudia_ | Thanks |
| 20:17 | walterbender | I am very close to convincing someone really great to take on the position |
| 20:17 | llaske | great |
| 20:17 | walterbender | I don't want to name her publicly until she agrees |
| 20:17 | llaske | sure |
| 20:18 | walterbender | but we have been discussing it and I think she will say yes. |
| 20:18 | Also, FWIW, she is fluent in both English and Spanish | |
| 20:18 | samsongoddy | Awesome |
| 20:18 | GrannieB | +1 |
| 20:18 | llaske | Very cool. Thanks to you for that |
| 20:19 | walterbender | #topic Education Team proposal |
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| 20:19 | walterbender | GrannieB, samsongoddy you guys wanna lead this discussion? |
| 20:20 | GrannieB | Walter, I am not good at typing fast, but will help as much as I can |
| 20:20 | samsongoddy | Okay |
| 20:20 | Our goal is to create a team of eductors | |
| 20:20 | Claudia_ | cool!! I like it |
| 20:20 | samsongoddy | That will help organize sugar activities |
| 20:20 | GrannieB | Did everyone get a copy of the doc with the proposals |
| 20:20 | ? | |
| 20:20 | perrie | Nice! |
| 20:20 | walterbender | did the link to the proposal get sent out? |
| 20:20 | samsongoddy | Yes |
| 20:20 | elverma | +1 |
| 20:20 | samsongoddy | I did |
| 20:21 | walterbender | https://docs.google.com/docume[…]/edit?usp=sharing |
| 20:21 | Claudia_ | +1 |
| 20:21 | perrie | Yeah |
| 20:21 | walterbender | My personal reaction was that it was a bit of a mash up of education and marketing |
| 20:21 | both are important | |
| 20:21 | GrannieB | right! |
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| 20:21 | samsongoddy | Yes |
| 20:21 | llaske | yes, i don't like the fund part: The Sugar Labs Oversight Board may vote to support this participation by providing them with reimbursement for registration (if needed) and reasonable travel expenses |
| 20:21 | walterbender | and it is important that both mesh well |
| 20:22 | samsongoddy | That the idea, lets the Educators talk to the Educators |
| 20:22 | GrannieB | Educators are the best people to do marketing to other educatorw! |
| 20:22 | educators! | |
| 20:22 | samsongoddy | So we are looking into diversity |
| 20:22 | At least someone form each continent | |
| 20:22 | GrannieB | Both ethnic and geographical diversity |
| 20:22 | samsongoddy | At have some skills in teaching |
| 20:22 | walterbender | It would be good if we had more educators on the team -- @ you claudia |
| 20:23 | Claudia_ | unpack good teaching |
| 20:23 | samsongoddy | We will create a channel for them |
| 20:23 | For communication | |
| 20:23 | Something i hope the Sugar labs social will do | |
| 20:23 | GrannieB | but, hopefully not on irc! |
| 20:23 | samsongoddy | Similar to Scratched platform |
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| 20:24 | samsongoddy | Where Educators cab helo create lessons plan |
| 20:24 | *can | |
| 20:24 | *help | |
| 20:24 | GrannieB | ;) |
| 20:24 | samsongoddy | GrannieB wanna add? |
| 20:24 | walterbender | llaske, I think the budget needs to specified in more detail but in theory, there is no reason to dismiss the idea of funding |
| 20:24 | llaske | I don't see the interest to detail rules for funding travel expanse. It's the general way of working of SugarLabs. No need to repeat it here. |
| 20:25 | elverma | Step in the right direction |
| 20:25 | GrannieB | If teachers are attending regional conferences where they can show Sugar they should be able to apply for funding |
| 20:25 | elverma | +1 |
| 20:25 | llaske | Sure |
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| 20:25 | walterbender | GrannieB, I agree... we just need a clear set of guidelines and a budget |
| 20:25 | llaske | But it's what we're doing for SugarLabs members when they ask for |
| 20:26 | samsongoddy | So we will soon make an open call |
| 20:26 | To Educators | |
| 20:27 | walterbender | let's not get tangled in the weeds. the important thing is we have the beginnings of a education team again. |
| 20:27 | GrannieB | We would like to start recruiting right away. The funding and other stuff can come later. We just need to have a rough idea of what the team will be doing |
| 20:27 | elverma | Funding is available through grants if the teachers can show this work as part of professional development |
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| 20:27 | GrannieB | Sometines people can get funding from other grants... sometimes not |
| 20:27 | walterbender | I propose we appoint Claudia_ as the liaison from SLOB (as samsongoddy is already the defacto marketing team liaison) |
| 20:28 | elverma | I second |
| 20:28 | walterbender | and then let the team meet and come up with some more detailed plans |
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| 20:28 | Claudia_ | here again |
| 20:28 | sorry | |
| 20:28 | walterbender | Claudia_, we just nominated you as the liaison to the education team |
| 20:29 | GrannieB | ??? OK, help me understand... Samson and I can do recruiting and Claudia will be the SLOBs contact? |
| 20:29 | Claudia_ | taken |
| 20:29 | walterbender | GrannieB, hopefully she'll do more than just liaise :) |
| 20:29 | GrannieB | Actually, she can help recruit too ;) |
| 20:30 | walterbender | GrannieB, I would like to participate as well, but not in my role as a SLOB member |
| 20:30 | samsongoddy | Yay! |
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| 20:30 | walterbender | anything else we need to do here? |
| 20:30 | Claudia_ | we aork as a team |
| 20:30 | GrannieB | Our first goal is to get at least one key person from each continenet and then to get people from various countries |
| 20:31 | samsongoddy | Yes, travel support |
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| 20:31 | Claudia_ | let's connect and decide hpw we work together |
| 20:31 | walterbender | knows a teacher who has spent time in Antarctica :) |
| 20:32 | samsongoddy | Antarctica? Wow |
| 20:32 | GrannieB | People do live there.,.. so I guess they do have schools |
| 20:32 | I know someone who lived there several years, but she was a firefighter | |
| 20:32 | walterbender | let's move the Education Team discussion to the iaep and sur lists? |
| 20:32 | llaske | I don't think one guy could represent the diversity of a whole continent |
| 20:32 | GrannieB | Sounds good |
| 20:33 | walterbender | and move to the next topic? |
| 20:33 | Claudia_ | llaske: agree |
| 20:33 | GrannieB | Thats why we will fo for countries too |
| 20:33 | Claudia_ | but we can think about this off line |
| 20:33 | GrannieB | +1 |
| 20:33 | llaske | yes |
| 20:33 | walterbender | was tongue and cheek about Antarctica |
| 20:34 | samsongoddy | +1 |
| 20:34 | walterbender | #topic travel request |
| 20:34 | samsongoddy, this one is you... | |
| 20:34 | samsongoddy | I have been called upon |
| 20:34 | To attend two conferences | |
| 20:34 | In two states in Nigeria | |
| 20:34 | walterbender | https://docs.google.com/docume[…]vLt6-dvAXWQY/edit |
| 20:35 | samsongoddy | So I will be asking for travel support to make this trip happen, as to help strengthen my outreach |
| 20:35 | Within Nigeria | |
| 20:36 | I have already in talk with the Riverstate Government for the past 6 months and we will be doing TA day soon | |
| 20:36 | In Port Harcourt | |
| 20:36 | walterbender | As per your email exchange, the travel of course will be done within the constraints of the SFC guidelines |
| 20:36 | samsongoddy | Noted |
| 20:38 | walterbender | any other comments ? |
| 20:38 | samsongoddy | I thought there will be votes? |
| 20:39 | walterbender | samsongoddy, I will make a motion |
| 20:40 | Claudia_ | we should have a budget for outreach... i don;t know if there is |
| 20:40 | sverma | I'll second |
| 20:40 | Claudia_ | wondering |
| 20:40 | walterbender | #motion: to approve a travel budget of up to US $500 for Samson Goddy to travel to the Open Source Way to Go conference. |
| 20:40 | sverma, second? | |
| 20:41 | sverma | Yes |
| 20:41 | walterbender | thx. +1 from me |
| 20:43 | any other vote? | |
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| 20:44 | walterbender | ping??? |
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| 20:44 | walterbender | is anyone there? |
| 20:44 | hola? hello? | |
| 20:45 | GrannieB | I am |
| 20:45 | Quozl_ | i'm seeing your "is anyone there?" walter. |
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| 20:45 | walterbender | while we are waiting... |
| 20:45 | a tip of the hat to Quozl_ for leading regular devel team meetings | |
| 20:46 | not sure if SLOB is aware that those are happening | |
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| 20:46 | samsongoddy | Quozl_ a plate of Jollof rice |
| 20:47 | 🙌🙌🙌 | |
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| 20:47 | walterbender | sverma, are you still here? |
| 20:48 | sverma | Yes |
| 20:48 | walterbender | since we have stalled out on the vote, I'll continue it by email |
| 20:48 | meanwhile, can you lead the discussion of the goals for 2018? | |
| 20:48 | #topic goals for 2018 | |
| 20:48 | sverma | Sure. |
| 20:49 | walterbender | thx |
| 20:49 | sverma | We now have submissions from people that amount to a little over 20 ideas |
| 20:49 | I sent out a list yesterday | |
| 20:50 | https://docs.google.com/spread[…]/edit?usp=sharing | |
| 20:50 | walterbender | how do we proceed from here? |
| 20:50 | sverma | It's a open for another week |
| 20:50 | walterbender | OK... |
| 20:50 | lots of nice ideas | |
| 20:50 | sverma | After that, we'll tag the items into different categories and get back to the community |
| 20:50 | samsongoddy | Thanks sverma |
| 20:50 | I will add more ideas | |
| 20:51 | sverma | The idea being that those categories will help us formulate goals with specific time lines |
| 20:51 | GrannieB | +1 |
| 20:51 | walterbender | and maybe some in time to impact GSoC |
| 20:51 | sverma | I think so |
| 20:51 | walterbender | or SLSoC, if we decide to go down that path |
| 20:52 | samsongoddy | Yay! |
| 20:52 | That an idea | |
| 20:52 | sverma | I would like to see these clusters love on the wiki as starting points |
| 20:52 | Live | |
| 20:52 | GrannieB | ! |
| 20:53 | sverma | Please submit more in the next week |
| 20:53 | walterbender | sverma, maybe another email reminder? |
| 20:53 | samsongoddy | +1 |
| 20:53 | sverma | https://goo.gl/forms/PV3SV8opzBnb1eqw2 |
| 20:53 | samsongoddy | sverma can i make open on Social Media? |
| 20:54 | sverma | Yes |
| 20:54 | samsongoddy | Like to reach out to members and contributors? |
| 20:54 | Alright | |
| 20:54 | I will do that this week | |
| 20:54 | sverma | Yes please |
| 20:54 | walterbender | anything else for today? |
| 20:55 | samsongoddy | Not that I know of |
| 20:55 | walterbender | will work on the feasibility of SLSoC |
| 20:55 | samsongoddy | Let's work on that idea |
| 20:55 | As it re Marketing | |
| 20:55 | walterbender? | |
| 20:55 | walterbender | ok |
| 20:56 | well, I think we made some headway today. | |
| 20:56 | thanks everyone for coming. | |
| 20:56 | I will follow up with an email. | |
| 20:56 | GrannieB | bye all |
| 20:56 | sverma | Thanks everybody! |
| 20:56 | samsongoddy | Thanks all |
| 20:57 | Good meeting | |
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| 20:57 | samsongoddy | The best so far |
| 20:57 | walterbender | #end-meeting |
| 20:57 | meeting | Meeting ended Fri Mar 2 20:57:07 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. (v 0.1.4) |
| 20:57 | Minutes: http://meeting.sugarlabs.org/s[…]-02T20:01:39.html | |
| 20:57 | Log: http://meeting.sugarlabs.org/s[…]18-03-02T20:01:39 | |
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