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| 19:09 | davelab6 | hi |
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| 19:09 | Jaskirat_ | davelab6: hello |
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| 19:14 | ibiam | hey davelab6!!!! |
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| 19:22 | GrannieB | Is this the correct meeting room? |
| 19:23 | samsongoddy | I was thinking too |
| 19:23 | GrannieB | Hi Samson! |
| 19:23 | samsongoddy | Hell |
| 19:23 | Hello | |
| 19:23 | I thought i was missed the meeting | |
| 19:23 | GrannieB | No wonder they don't get a quorum! |
| 19:24 | samsongoddy | Timezone issues? |
| 19:25 | GrannieB | Shouldn't be.... I'll send Walter a note and cc Adam |
| 19:25 | samsongoddy | +1 |
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| 19:27 | GrannieB | just sent it. |
| 19:28 | Did you get to watch the Harvard class video? | |
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| 19:28 | GrannieB | I haven't yet but it is still awailable |
| 19:28 | available | |
| 19:29 | samsongoddy | Yes, just for 4 minutes. I am having issues with my internet |
| 19:29 | Is there a place i can download? | |
| 19:29 | GrannieB | maybe... |
| 19:31 | I'll message Sameer on FB and see if he knows what is happening | |
| 19:31 | samsongoddy | Okay |
| 19:32 | Let me see if i can contact walter | |
| 19:34 | GrannieB | great! Meanwhile... not sure about downloading the lecture. I know you can download stuff from CS50, but this one is from a special Gaming class they have in the Harvard Extension (not EDx so not free) |
| 19:35 | samsongoddy | Oh i see |
| 19:36 | GrannieB | Sameer thinks it starts at the next hour |
| 19:36 | samsongoddy | I thought as much |
| 19:36 | Timezones changes? | |
| 19:36 | GrannieB | I checked a UTC converter and it came out as now. |
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| 19:37 | samsongoddy | Me too |
| 19:37 | Hello sverma | |
| 19:38 | Looks like the timing was misunderstood | |
| 19:38 | sverma | Hello |
| 19:39 | It may be a daylight saving time mix up | |
| 19:39 | GrannieB | Boy... it sure was! |
| 19:39 | samsongoddy | I saw your mail and I like the concept |
| 19:39 | GrannieB | There were other people I don't know who left |
| 19:40 | Oh.... hi Sameer! | |
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| 19:41 | elverma | Sugarlabs goals form: https://goo.gl/forms/PV3SV8opzBnb1eqw2 |
| 19:42 | GrannieB | http://www.timebie.com/std/utc.php |
| 19:42 | elverma | It's the first step in collecting input |
| 19:42 | GrannieB | Yes, I put mine in after I sent the email about it. |
| 19:43 | elverma | Thx |
| 19:43 | ibiam | hi |
| 19:43 | GrannieB, elverma | |
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| 19:43 | ibiam | been a while? |
| 19:43 | samsongoddy | Welcome ibiam |
| 19:43 | ibiam | says it's not a question |
| 19:44 | hey man | |
| 19:44 | samsongoddy | Handling my crashed computer |
| 19:44 | GrannieB | Hi Ibiam |
| 19:44 | samsongoddy | It crashed again after i resolved it |
| 19:45 | ibiam | ooops!!! |
| 19:45 | GrannieB, how are you doing? | |
| 19:45 | samsongoddy, what do you plan to do? | |
| 19:45 | samsongoddy | I fixed it some minutes back |
| 19:46 | Again for the 6th time | |
| 19:46 | So I am doing some diagnose test | |
| 19:46 | To figure out where the issue is coming from | |
| 19:48 | ibiam | aiight....still working on ma stuff |
| 19:48 | got stuck cos of network | |
| 19:50 | GrannieB | samson, what kind of computer is it? |
| 19:51 | samsongoddy | Guess what? |
| 19:51 | Apple | |
| 19:51 | Macbook Pro, because i refused to upgrade | |
| 19:51 | To the lastest MacOSX | |
| 19:52 | GrannieB | why |
| 19:52 | ? | |
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| 19:54 | samsongoddy | Because there is some issues with the lastest OS |
| 19:54 | llaske | sorry, i am late |
| 19:55 | ibiam | hi llaske |
| 19:56 | GrannieB | Hi Lionel! |
| 19:56 | llaske | hi all |
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| 19:56 | samsongoddy | llaske, you are not late |
| 19:56 | llaske | cool |
| 19:56 | samsongoddy | We haven't started the meeting |
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| 19:58 | GrannieB | Before we officially start, can someone tell me how to make a reply directed to one person rather than the group? |
| 19:58 | llaske | Depend of your IRC client |
| 19:59 | GrannieB | I am using one of the links in Walter's email... the bottom one |
| 19:59 | llaske | usually just clicking of the name of the person you want to discuss |
| 19:59 | ibiam | yeah and if you see "query", that's the option you need |
| 20:00 | davelab6 | will the meeting be later today? |
| 20:00 | elverma | Maybe... |
| 20:00 | walterbender | Sorry |
| 20:00 | I messed up | |
| 20:00 | llaske | I thought it was one hour before but this time is better for me :-) |
| 20:00 | walterbender | fell asleep |
| 20:00 | elverma | BTW I'm on the train... Connection comes and goes |
| 20:00 | walterbender | If peoeple can meet now, let's begin |
| 20:01 | elverma | +1 |
| 20:01 | llaske | yep |
| 20:01 | walterbender | #start-meeting |
| 20:01 | meeting | Meeting started Fri Feb 2 20:01:29 2018 UTC. The chair is walterbender. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
| 20:01 | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #endmeeting | |
| 20:01 | walterbender | quick show of hands from SLOBs |
| 20:02 | elverma | Here |
| 20:02 | llaske | +1 |
| 20:02 | samsongoddy | +1 |
| 20:02 | walterbender | OK... we are good to go |
| 20:02 | Sorry for being late | |
| 20:02 | Was in an early morning call to India and fell back to sleep | |
| 20:03 | #topic #gci | |
| 20:03 | Just to wrap up Google Code In. | |
| 20:03 | We have our grand prize winners: kipply and euan | |
| 20:04 | And our other finalists: sidhat, pipix, and emily | |
| 20:04 | 1195 students worked on tasks for Sugar Labs this year | |
| 20:04 | about 800 completed tasks | |
| 20:05 | elverma | Impressive! |
| 20:05 | ibiam | really impressive |
| 20:05 | walterbender | about half of those were beginner tasks: learning to make a pull request, etc. |
| 20:05 | llaske | Yes and there is very good work |
| 20:05 | walterbender | but still. lots of great work and lots of great exposure |
| 20:05 | I was very pleased | |
| 20:05 | and very pleased with the mentoring toop | |
| 20:06 | we have a nice group of new mentors recruited by Samson | |
| 20:06 | and out GSoC interns all helped as well | |
| 20:06 | GrannieB | Did some work collaboratively? The number of tasks vs participants indicates they did |
| 20:07 | walterbender | GrannieB, there was lots of collaboration, all informal, as the contest doesn't allow for group projects |
| 20:07 | llaske | I've got few times however task validated without good reason: we must ensure the mentor are able to do task themself |
| 20:07 | walterbender | but the finalists, especially, helped their fellow contestants |
| 20:08 | llaske, given the scale, it didn't happen very much | |
| 20:08 | there were a few hiccups in the beginning | |
| 20:08 | and when I asked students to revisit, they always did | |
| 20:08 | also, a number of the students are still contributing patches :) | |
| 20:09 | we are about to land a major piece of work from euan, for example | |
| 20:09 | any questions/comments re GCI? | |
| 20:10 | Leads into the next topic: GSoC | |
| 20:10 | #topic GSoC | |
| 20:10 | I applied to Google Summer of Code | |
| 20:11 | we should hear back from Google in a few weeks as to if and how many slots we have | |
| 20:11 | meanwhile, we have a wiki page with lots of nice project ideas | |
| 20:11 | and we can still add more | |
| 20:11 | llaske | yes great. Warning however, some tasks are more marketing/design than coding |
| 20:11 | walterbender | #link https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Summer_of_Code/2018 |
| 20:11 | llaske, that is OK... | |
| 20:12 | ibiam | there are ideas....doesn't mean they'll be given a slot |
| 20:12 | walterbender | ibiam, +1 |
| 20:12 | llaske | I don't think it's the spirit of GSoC |
| 20:12 | walterbender | llaske, I disagree |
| 20:12 | and I think google would also | |
| 20:13 | CanoeBerry | Am following, but apologies am in an in-person meeting simultaneously to this irc mtg. |
| 20:13 | walterbender | All of the tasks are related to FOSS |
| 20:13 | llaske | For example "Updating a new design of Sugarlabs wiki" is more about MediaWiki templating than coding |
| 20:13 | I suggest we prioritize slots on coding tasks | |
| 20:13 | walterbender | llaske, I rate that task a very low priority |
| 20:13 | GrannieB | Walter said some time ago that something like a users guide for users/educators could be a GSoC project. Is that true or did I misunderstand? |
| 20:13 | walterbender | but to do it well is to do some style-sheet coding |
| 20:14 | GrannieB, +1 | |
| 20:14 | llaske | So we'll need a priority column |
| 20:14 | walterbender | The project is much more than just writing code |
| 20:15 | ibiam | +1 |
| 20:15 | walterbender | and my priority is on the quality of the intern, not the project itself |
| 20:15 | we want to bring good ideas and people into the org. | |
| 20:15 | llaske | Same for "Making a marketing animated website page of sugarlabs" |
| 20:15 | GrannieB | If we have lots of beautifully coded Activities but people don't know how to take advantage of all their features it is kind a waste. That is why users guides are as important as Activities. |
| 20:16 | walterbender | llaske, what I would hope is that we find someone very strong to drive a marketing effort this summer |
| 20:16 | GrannieB | What good is a wonderful program if no one knows about it or how to use it? |
| 20:16 | walterbender | GrannieB, +1 |
| 20:16 | GrannieB | Yes, Marketing is extremely important! |
| 20:17 | samsongoddy | I agree too walterbender |
| 20:17 | llaske | I'm fully agree that marketing is important but once again GSoC is a developer program |
| 20:17 | samsongoddy | A lot of projects have been done, but marketing is important to make "people" come in |
| 20:17 | walterbender | in your opinion |
| 20:17 | As I said, I think it is broader than that | |
| 20:17 | samsongoddy | llaske, i might be wrong but i saw some noncoding project last year |
| 20:18 | walterbender | and we've treated it more broadly in the past |
| 20:18 | llaske | Google Summer of Code is a global program focused on bringing more student developers into open source software development |
| 20:18 | (said Google) | |
| 20:18 | ibiam | and that includes marketing |
| 20:18 | walterbender | and since when is "open source development" only coding? |
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| 20:18 | GrannieB | it should also include documentation for the users |
| 20:18 | walterbender | that is a very narrow read |
| 20:18 | samsongoddy | Yet, other organizations do non-coding tasks |
| 20:18 | ibiam | it's broad |
| 20:19 | llaske | student developers... |
| 20:19 | (said Google) | |
| 20:19 | samsongoddy | Open Source range from Documentation to Coding to Outreach |
| 20:19 | GrannieB | +1 |
| 20:20 | walterbender | frankly, I can write code... but I cannot do many of these other tasks... |
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| 20:20 | walterbender | I am looking for people who do things that I cannot |
| 20:20 | carlos | Hi all, i'm listening in from New Mexico ... just saying hi |
| 20:20 | samsongoddy | But again, llaske, i get your point. |
| 20:21 | llaske | "start of coding" |
| 20:21 | (said Google) | |
| 20:21 | ibiam | llaske, do you put a lot of work into documentation/marketing/outreach with sugarizer |
| 20:22 | llaske | Sure, but for GSoC, I'm looking for developers |
| 20:22 | walterbender | I am not sure we are going to reach consensus and I am not sure it matters |
| 20:22 | llaske | +1 |
| 20:23 | walterbender | let's move on since we are waiting for google in any case |
| 20:23 | #topic sysadmin | |
| 20:23 | GrannieB | Because that is what you want to do. I would like to see some users guides and marketing,,, which others might want to do |
| 20:24 | walterbender | good news -- we have a new sysadmin volunteer, MrBIOS |
| 20:24 | samsongoddy | Awesome news |
| 20:24 | walterbender | which is great because Bernie just moved to Japan and has limited availability |
| 20:24 | I am also looking for another volunteer | |
| 20:25 | if anyone knows any systems types willing to help out, please bring them to my attention. | |
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| 20:25 | samsongoddy | +1, i will look |
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| 20:25 | walterbender | samsongoddy, seems some of the people you found for GCI have the necessary skills... |
| 20:26 | samsongoddy | Yes |
| 20:26 | walterbender | but meanwhile, I hope things get unstuck -- as we have a bit of a backlog. |
| 20:26 | samsongoddy | I will reach out to them |
| 20:26 | walterbender | samsongoddy, thx |
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| 20:27 | walterbender | #topic ombudsman |
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| 20:27 | walterbender | I have been remiss in finding us a new Ombudsman. |
| 20:27 | I have a few ideas, but have not acted on them. | |
| 20:28 | I am also receptive to ideas from the community | |
| 20:28 | This is an important role, which hopefully is not a lot of work | |
| 20:28 | Bert only had to intervene twice in 10 years. | |
| 20:29 | sverma, you have enough of a connection to jump into the goals discussion? | |
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| 20:30 | walterbender | While we are waiting for sverma, any thoughts on meeting times? It seems 1900 UTC on Fridays is not working very well (nor 2000 UTC) |
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| 20:31 | walterbender | llaske, what works for you? |
| 20:31 | samsongoddy, for you? | |
| 20:31 | ibiam | walterbender, do you have a list of candidates? |
| 20:31 | GrannieB | If we all used a UTC converter it might work better |
| 20:31 | walterbender | ibiam, I don't want to make it public without talking to the candidates |
| 20:32 | ibiam | okay |
| 20:32 | llaske | 20h00 UTC is good for me but if it's not for other we could choose another |
| 20:32 | samsongoddy | The time is good for me |
| 20:32 | walterbender | CanoeBerry, ? |
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| 20:32 | CanoeBerry | Current Friday timeframe or similar works on this end- |
| 20:32 | walterbender | I guess this is something easier to decide with a software tool. |
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| 20:33 | walterbender | OK. I'll try to check with Claudia and Sameer |
| 20:33 | any other topics while we wait for Sameer? | |
| 20:33 | samsongoddy | Educator? |
| 20:34 | Role in Sugar Labs? | |
| 20:34 | walterbender | samsongoddy, yes... |
| 20:34 | #topic educator | |
| 20:34 | Samson recently reminded me that we used to have a position -- never filled -- for the role of educator. | |
| 20:34 | looks for the page in the wiki | |
| 20:36 | The idea would be to put a renewed emphasis on pedagogy again | |
| 20:36 | someone who could relate to teachers and help us with outreach | |
| 20:37 | samsongoddy, can you find the page? I cannot | |
| 20:37 | GrannieB | I could see this as ideal for a team effort with some folks like Rosamel, José Miguel, Tony A, etc |
| 20:37 | samsongoddy | Let me look |
| 20:38 | GrannieB | Guzman Trinidad is also good |
| 20:38 | ibiam | in Nigeria we have a few persons too |
| 20:38 | samsongoddy | Yes Henry |
| 20:39 | The Champion of OLPC Nigeria | |
| 20:39 | And Schlumberger SEED program | |
| 20:39 | Worked with Claudia | |
| 20:39 | GrannieB | Sameer probably has contacts in Jamaica too |
| 20:39 | walterbender | would be great if we got the discussion around education going again... |
| 20:39 | sverma | Sorry I'm on the train |
| 20:39 | GrannieB | sure would! |
| 20:40 | sverma | Connection comes and goes |
| 20:40 | walterbender | and to do that, I think we need a dedicated champion |
| 20:40 | it won't happen on its own | |
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| 20:41 | ibiam | walterbender, someone needs attention re rpi image-gen in #sugar |
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| 20:42 | walterbender | samsongoddy, GrannieB maybe you can put together a proposal, with feedback from Henry, Rosamel, et al? |
| 20:42 | sverma, you there? | |
| 20:42 | sverma | The link for the goals form is on iaep |
| 20:43 | walterbender | sverma, I didn't look yet... |
| 20:43 | it explains the process too? | |
| 20:43 | sverma | Submit your ideas there. We'll try to do a two week+one week gathering session |
| 20:43 | It's fairly simple for now | |
| 20:43 | carlos | https://goo.gl/forms/PV3SV8opzBnb1eqw2 is the link |
| 20:44 | sverma | Yes |
| 20:44 | walterbender | sverma, one goal per submission? in case we have multiple goals? |
| 20:44 | sverma | One per submission. Multiple ok |
| 20:45 | I'll clarify that on the form and email | |
| 20:45 | walterbender | thx |
| 20:47 | anything else for today? | |
| 20:47 | sverma | I have to run. Another meeting. |
| 20:47 | Thx | |
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| 20:48 | llaske | Thanks sverma |
| 20:48 | walterbender | OK. |
| 20:48 | thanks everyone | |
| 20:48 | sorry I fell asleep | |
| 20:48 | carlos has quit IRC | |
| 20:48 | ibiam | you're forgiven |
| 20:48 | llaske | Thanks walterbender |
| 20:49 | ibiam | thanks, walterbender, everyone |
| 20:49 | walterbender | #end-meeting |
| 20:49 | meeting | Meeting ended Fri Feb 2 20:49:15 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. (v 0.1.4) |
| 20:49 | Minutes: http://meeting.sugarlabs.org/s[…]-02T20:01:29.html | |
| 20:49 | Log: http://meeting.sugarlabs.org/s[…]18-02-02T20:01:29 | |
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