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13:57 | Tabs16 | hi everyone |
13:57 | walterbender | hi |
13:57 | Rishabh42 | hey everyone |
13:58 | Seetarama | hello everyone |
13:58 | tarunsinghal92 | Hi everyone |
13:59 | tony37 | hi |
13:59 | jatindhankhar | hello everyone |
13:59 | walterbender | shall we get started? |
13:59 | zeecoder606 <zeecoder606!67d85092![]() |
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13:59 | walterbender | #start-meeting |
13:59 | meeting | Meeting started Mon Jul 10 13:59:15 2017 UTC. The chair is walterbender. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
13:59 | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #endmeeting | |
13:59 | zeecoder606 | Hi everyone |
13:59 | pragr07 <pragr07!670ffa0b![]() |
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13:59 | walterbender | zeecoder606, maybe we can begin with you? |
13:59 | zeecoder606 | sure |
13:59 | cristinadp <cristinadp!1806e524![]() |
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14:00 | walterbender | zeecoder606, can you please give a summary of last week's effort? |
14:00 | zeecoder606 | I completed the Ui of slider puzzle activity and also completed the Gtk3 port the activity is running perfectly. |
14:00 | I created the pull request for both Dots and boxes activity and slider-puzzle activity | |
14:01 | walterbender | zeecoder606, I think slider puzzle is much cleaner now |
14:01 | zeecoder606, you saw my email re examples of help PRs? | |
14:01 | zeecoder606 | I will add the documentation for slider puzzle in the help activity today and then I will start with the Jigsaw . |
14:02 | walterbender | zeecoder606, I expect Jigsaw will go quickly |
14:02 | Sanjay <Sanjay!~webchat![]() |
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14:02 | walterbender | zeecoder606, after that, perhaps you can do some work on Read? |
14:02 | tony37 | greetings sanjay |
14:02 | zeecoder606 | Do I need to change the UI for Jigsaw also? |
14:02 | walterbender | It is already GTK3, but it needs to be ported to Webkit2 4.0 |
14:02 | Sanjay | Greetings Tony. |
14:03 | walterbender | zeecoder606, please do something similar to what you did for Slider. |
14:03 | zeecoder606 | Ok I will go though the Read. |
14:03 | walterbender | Move the buttons to the toolbar |
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14:03 | walterbender | and use a panel for the image selector |
14:03 | zeecoder606 | Ok I will do the same for the jigsaw. |
14:03 | walterbender | The help has already migrated |
14:04 | zeecoder606, after Read, the Help activity needs a similar update :P | |
14:04 | zeecoder606 | Haha Sure sir :) |
14:04 | walterbender | any questions for zeecoder606 ? |
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14:04 | zeecoder606 | No sir thanks for the guidance on slider. |
14:05 | walterbender | zeecoder606, in general, your ports can include improvements... they don't have to be verbatim transcodings |
14:05 | move to a standard sugar toolbar, for example | |
14:05 | esp. for old activities | |
14:05 | cristinadp <cristinadp!1806e524![]() |
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14:06 | zeecoder606 | Ok I will take care of it. |
14:06 | walterbender | jatindhankhar, would you like to go next? |
14:07 | jatindhankhar | Yes sure |
14:07 | So this week scg and I complete a big chunk of backend and moved onto frontend. | |
14:08 | For frontend I am using Bootstrap's material design fork | |
14:08 | fezvrasta.github.io/bootstrap-material-design/ | |
14:10 | I have shared some mockups with Samuel and things are going smoothly. On the backend side we though to imgur for hosting SVG icons as well but Imgur doesn't svg, so for now we are storing then in their base64 encoded form | |
14:10 | There are bunch of other other solutions as well | |
14:10 | tharangi <tharangi!~dinuka.ja![]() |
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14:10 | jatindhankhar | Here is a demo screenshot of the detail page https://lh3.googleusercontent.[…]09%2B23-52-41.png |
14:11 | Clear version -> https://lh3.googleusercontent.[…]10%2B00-13-57.png | |
14:11 | Backend code is in the refactor_db_layer branch, scg organized the code very well :) | |
14:12 | Frontend suggestions are appreciated :D | |
14:12 | walterbender | jatindhankhar, looks very clean and clear |
14:12 | and all data driven from git? | |
14:13 | jatindhankhar | Yes |
14:13 | walterbender | beautiful |
14:13 | jatindhankhar | We are listening for release event and building bundles |
14:14 | walterbender | jatindhankhar, a few details, such as sugar version are in place as well. |
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14:15 | walterbender | oops |
14:15 | I guess we lost JatinD[noreply] | |
14:15 | let's move on in the mean time | |
14:15 | pragr07, can you please give an update? | |
14:15 | pragr07 | yes sure |
14:16 | so I am done with testing the Synth code over the envelope block | |
14:16 | and its working fine | |
14:16 | walterbender | it makes for a fun demo |
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14:16 | pragr07 | this week i am planning to test it over drum and voice samples |
14:16 | jatindhankhar <jatindhankhar!~jatin![]() |
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14:17 | pragr07 | also i will work on making it similar to set-drum method as per the suggestions |
14:17 | so that the timbre can be used across multiple elements | |
14:17 | walterbender | pragr07, can we use the envelope block inside the set-timbre clamp? Or only in the timbre-widget? |
14:17 | Would be nice to be able to do either | |
14:18 | pragr07 | only in the timbre-widget |
14:18 | ok | |
14:18 | jatindhankhar | walterbender: Sorry, got disconnected. Don't know why my internet connection has to go when I am doing something important :| |
14:18 | walterbender | jatindhankhar, I think we were basically done... really like the progress |
14:18 | jatindhankhar, you should blog and send an update to sugar-devel | |
14:18 | pragr07 | walterbender: but set-timbre block is for using the instrument created using the timbre block |
14:19 | so why do we need the envelope block there? | |
14:19 | walterbender | pragr07, I am just thinking, maybe someone wants to change the instrument on the fly |
14:19 | pragr07 | ok |
14:19 | walterbender | we should maximize flexibility |
14:19 | jatindhankhar | :) Sugar version is in the db, will add it to UI. Accessbility is on the list as well. Editing the blog as well. Will send an udapte to the sugar-devel once I finish some part of UI |
14:20 | pragr07 | walterbender, sure |
14:20 | walterbender | jatindhankhar, I'd engage sugar-devel sooner than later for feedback |
14:20 | tony37 <tony37!~webchat![]() |
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14:21 | walterbender | pragr07, one caveat: if you have two voices using the same instrument and one makes an inline modification, it should be restricted to that voice |
14:21 | so you'll need to "fork" instruments per voice | |
14:21 | pragr07, make sense? | |
14:21 | pragr07 | walterbender: yes |
14:21 | jatindhankhar | walterbender: Yes, frontend is still in infancy, will surely ask for feedback, just need to integrate UI with aslo |
14:22 | walterbender | pragr07, hopefully not too complicated given your new backend |
14:22 | any other questions for pragr07 (or jatindhankhar )? | |
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14:23 | walterbender | Raphaelt[m], can you please give an update? |
14:24 | Raphaelt[m] | Yes, sure |
14:25 | So, last week, I worked on create instruction again, need to rework the view and the logic, and at the end of the week, my mentors decide to change the UI, to match better with a Tablet looking. So I have search some library Material Design and foudn one | |
14:26 | https://github.com/jfoenixadmin/JFoenix | |
14:26 | And there is a preview of the changed UI, that wil take times but it's on a good way https://gyazo.com/4780b859bed3[…]5efde534873577fa1 | |
14:27 | So this week I'll work on changing the UI | |
14:28 | walterbender | any questions/comments? |
14:28 | llaske[m], mohayon ? | |
14:29 | thanks Raphaelt[m] | |
14:29 | looks good for a tablet or a PC at least | |
14:30 | Raphaelt[m] | Thanks :) |
14:30 | walterbender | Rishabh42, can you give an update? |
14:30 | Rishabh42 | walterbender, yeah sure |
14:31 | last week I figured out a way to configure automatic login while building the image and also fixed the issue which prevented automatic switching to Sugar session instead of Default Xsession | |
14:32 | So now the image boots straight into the Sugar session after flashing | |
14:32 | Please see my latest blog post here: https://sugaronraspberrypi.wordpress.com/ | |
14:32 | walterbender | Rishabh42, is the current image for testing the one linked to from the Debian/Sugar page in the wiki? |
14:33 | Rishabh42 | yes walterbender |
14:33 | on my sunjammer page^^ | |
14:33 | walterbender | I asked a group in Barcelona to test it this week. |
14:34 | I hope to hear back from them soon | |
14:34 | Rishabh42 | that's nice :) |
14:34 | walterbender | Rishabh42, and you saw Quozl's comments? |
14:34 | Rishabh42 | walterbender, yes, I saw it this morning, will work on including that in the image builder |
14:35 | tony37 | Rishabh42 I was able to create an sd card with the previous image and login. The neighborhood view worked and I was able to connect and login to the school server. |
14:35 | Rishabh42 | walterbender, was updating my repo today to make it reproducible |
14:35 | walterbender | Rishabh42, it is always best to make changes to the build scripts so that the work is replicable |
14:35 | Rishabh42 | tony37, that's awesome, thanks for reporting :) |
14:36 | walterbender | I had trouble trying to make an image using DD |
14:36 | Rishabh42 | walterbender, +1 |
14:36 | walterbender | dd |
14:36 | not sure why | |
14:36 | tony37 | walterbender I used dd and it worked as expected |
14:36 | walterbender | But I will switch to mediamaker and hopefully have better lucj |
14:36 | Rishabh42 | walterbender, you can use etcher too |
14:37 | walterbender | I would have thought so... but nada |
14:37 | Rishabh42 | walterbender, It works pretty well, I use it to flash my images |
14:38 | walterbender | any other comments/questions for Rishabh42 |
14:38 | Rishabh42 | walterbender, I've also written the steps to add autologin on the Debian/Raspberry_Pi page |
14:38 | walterbender | would be really great if everyone could take the time to test his builds |
14:38 | and also the latest SOaS builds | |
14:38 | Rishabh42 | so people can use that till I find a way to include it in the image builder |
14:38 | tony37 | Rishabh42 Is the Sugar user still pi? Also the home/pi directory does not have an Activities directory |
14:38 | walterbender | Hrishi, any comments? |
14:39 | Rishabh42 | yes tony37 , the user is still pi |
14:39 | walterbender | tony37, Rishabh42 use pi is fine, but we need a prebuilt Activities directory |
14:40 | Rishabh42 | walterbender, Hrishi was a bit busy today with his college admissions |
14:41 | walterbender, we have decided to work on fixing physics & write activities and focus on including autologin in the builder side by side | |
14:42 | walterbender | Rishabh42, maybe Physics, Write, and the GTK3 version of turtle can be put in the ~/Activities directory |
14:43 | tony37 | walterbender As I understand Sugar - installed activities are in /usr/share/sugar/activities and sugar-install-bundle activities are in ~/Activities |
14:43 | Rishabh42 | walterbender, thanks for the suggestion, I will discuss this with my mentors |
14:44 | walterbender | tony37, yes... probably a better solution |
14:44 | Rishabh42, ^^ | |
14:44 | thanks for the update Rishabh42 | |
14:44 | Sanjay, can you please give an update? | |
14:44 | Rishabh42 | thanks walterbender |
14:45 | Sanjay | Yeah, Sure |
14:45 | Rishabh42 | yes tony37 , the installed activities were in /usr/share/sugar/activities |
14:46 | Sanjay | This time, I am little concerned as I am little behind my actual plan. |
14:46 | The blog URL: https://sanjaykumarap.blogspot[…]-math-tricks.html | |
14:46 | In this blog post, we have 7 math tricks explained. All of them are available to play in the given link in the end of the post. By logic wise, they seems to OK. But the UI needs lot of work.I am in the process of making it smooth and not lag. | |
14:46 | Tony37 gave me many suggestions to first concentrate on. I have added Splash screen and now working to add menu based on initial difficulty levels. | |
14:47 | Like few design samples below. 1) https://ibin.co/3Stfw3UEj0lf.png 2) https://ibin.co/3Stgi8XpGh3E.png | |
14:47 | So, I would ike to speed things up | |
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14:48 | walterbender | Sanjay, but you have all the basic functionality in place? |
14:49 | Sanjay | Except the learning part all of them are in place |
14:49 | walterbender | Sanjay, can you please be sure to add a link to the code in each blog post? |
14:49 | so we don't have to dig around to find out where to go to test/comment | |
14:50 | tony37 <tony37!~webchat![]() |
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14:50 | Sanjay | With little modifications we will be able to get it up and running. But needs lot of improvements to be a full game that will help learning |
14:50 | Sure. Walterbender. | |
14:51 | tony37 <tony37!~webchat![]() |
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14:51 | Sanjay | I will add commits relevant to it hereafter |
14:51 | walterbender | Sanjay, my other comment: regarding the help |
14:51 | for the interested student, it would be nice to be able to delve into the algebra that is behind each trick | |
14:52 | any other questions/comments for Sanjay ? | |
14:52 | Sanjay | Yeah. Thanks for making this point. We have planned to add this in the "Learn the trick" part where a curious student can click on it and learn more. |
14:53 | walterbender | Seetarama, can you please give your update? |
14:53 | Seetarama | sure walterbender |
14:53 | Work done in past week: worked on 1)building a design prototype for the developers page on the website(as part of this work, created an introduction page and another inner page) 2.Worked on design changes 3)Typography and content related changes 4)optmization 5)There was an issue for the loader of the website, it has been partially solved and i'm still working on it | |
14:53 | walterbender | Sanjay, maybe provoke the learner to try to formulate their own explanation first |
14:53 | Seetarama | Goals for this week: 1)Adding more pages and content like the developers related content, etc. 2)Wroking on Optimization 3)Improving the responsiveness of the website |
14:54 | tony37 | I would like to see a separate link for this explanation with the learn the trick link showing the method |
14:54 | walterbender | Seetarama, so everything is on track? |
14:54 | tony37, +1 | |
14:54 | Seetarama | mostly yes sir |
14:55 | walterbender | mohayon, llaske[m] any comments? |
14:55 | Sanjay | Sure. |
14:55 | Seetarama | but we will need to have a meeting on the developers related content |
14:56 | walterbender | Seetarama, please advertise that meeting on sugar-devel |
14:56 | Seetarama | sure walterbender |
14:56 | walterbender | thx |
14:56 | Seetarama | will write my blog post report by tomorrow |
14:56 | walterbender | great |
14:57 | Seetarama | :) |
14:57 | walterbender | Tabs16, I think you are next |
14:58 | Tabs16 | yes |
14:58 | So envelope block is working well in terms of UI , I have made the reset work perfectly | |
14:59 | this week, I plan to finish with filter and synth components | |
15:00 | started with filter at first | |
15:01 | If the dropdown works fine according to the existing code i.e. dropdown for filter types, then it will be pretty straightforward | |
15:01 | walterbender | Tabs16, hopefully by the end of the week we might be able to discuss merging your work with pragr07 |
15:01 | Tabs16 | Yes , I will make sure we do that by end of week |
15:02 | then I think effects and oscillator will be left , also UI improvement will always be accompanied | |
15:02 | walterbender | if it makes sense |
15:02 | Tabs16, have you been blogging? | |
15:02 | Tabs16 | we can first improve these three components |
15:02 | fully functional along with the api | |
15:03 | walterbender: I was about to complete my blog post on envelope, will share the link soon | |
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15:04 | walterbender | Tabs16, great |
15:05 | Tabs16, what about the interactive graphic? | |
15:05 | for envelope? | |
15:06 | Tabs16 | I am a little confused on that , basically the units |
15:06 | walterbender | Tabs16, maybe best to leave it for the moment |
15:06 | Tabs16 | because attack, decay and release are time units |
15:06 | walterbender | Tabs16, I assumed a horizontal time scale |
15:07 | Tabs16 | I thought of it , but the way tone.js treats the values, is confusing to me |
15:07 | I will try to mention it on my blog | |
15:07 | and articulate a better study | |
15:07 | walterbender | Tabs16, I don't think that they all have to add up to 100 |
15:07 | Tabs16, looking forward to your blog | |
15:08 | any questions for Tabs16 ? | |
15:08 | Tabs16 | basically sustain is a horizontal time value on graph |
15:08 | walterbender | all of them are... but some are fixed and some depend on the note duration, I think |
15:09 | tarunsinghal92, can you please give an update? | |
15:09 | Tabs16 | I am thinking of a way to make the graph easy to understand |
15:09 | tarunsinghal92 | sure walterbender |
15:10 | I have started the dashboard implementation and it is going good so far. | |
15:10 | Currently I have completed users module with complete CRUD functionality for both admin and students. Activities modules has also been done with filter and drag/drop feature to change order of favourites activities on server. | |
15:10 | I have started working on i10n and journal part of dashboard(https://sketch.cloud/s/Awrr/al[…]age-1/journal-new ) which should be done by this week. | |
15:10 | Please follow this link for the demo. http://35.167.50.63:8081/app/activities It has forced authentication for ease. | |
15:10 | walterbender | Tabs16, be good to look at the TamTam Synth example again some time |
15:10 | Tabs16 | Sure walterbender :) |
15:12 | walterbender | tarunsinghal92, Can you please explain waht the i10n dashboard is all about? |
15:12 | tarunsinghal92 | multi-lingual support |
15:13 | walterbender | tarunsinghal92, for the activities themselves? |
15:13 | tarunsinghal92 | currently it has support only for English language |
15:13 | walterbender | or for the dashboard? |
15:13 | tarunsinghal92 | for the dashboard |
15:13 | walterbender | OK |
15:13 | tarunsinghal92 | wherever there is an english language |
15:16 | abhijitp <abhijitp!0e8b7a72![]() |
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15:16 | walterbender | llaske[m], mohayon any comments? |
15:17 | Rishabh42 | hey abhijitp |
15:17 | mohayon | Not for me :) |
15:17 | walterbender | tarunsinghal92, Thanks for the update |
15:17 | abhijitp | hi Rishabh42 :) |
15:17 | tarunsinghal92 | Thanks walterbender |
15:17 | walterbender | tharangi, ;) |
15:17 | tharangi | ohhh...finally... |
15:17 | First, I couldn't meet the deadline as I proposed at the begining, may be because I took a lot of time for the Quick Start section and GIF creating. To add images also it took a considerable amount of time unexpectedly. And ofcourse I didn't work hard too. Anyways these are the work from previous week. | |
15:17 | walterbender | sorry we are a bit slow today |
15:18 | tharangi | Created another page for quick start rearranging the content: https://sandbox.musicblocks.ne[…]e=quick_start_new |
15:18 | walterbender | tharangi, hopefully the new export will help with your artwork creation |
15:18 | tharangi | Fixed pallette meny openning twice bug: https://github.com/Tharangi/Mu[…]30d45ecb6c9e22998 |
15:18 | Added more clear images to the content. https://github.com/Tharangi/Mu[…]80a847f0b7d9307cc, https://github.com/Tharangi/Mu[…]db0873f30e5b37229 | |
15:19 | walterbender: yes, ofcourse. thanks for that. | |
15:19 | Shared content for Programming Palettes in Palette Bar for mentor suggestions. | |
15:19 | I will start working on the PDF auto generation by extracting the content tomorrow onwards. I have put 2 weeks for that in my timeline. I will finish off the content creation process with that within coming two weeks. | |
15:20 | walterbender | tharangi, I still think we can use the duplicate notes block in Chuck 2 instead of two repeat blocks ;P |
15:21 | but that is a minor detail | |
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15:21 | walterbender | tharangi, keep generating texts for me to edit |
15:21 | happy to do that | |
15:21 | tharangi | yes |
15:21 | we can use it | |
15:22 | walterbender | tharangi, and I will try to generate a few more fun examples |
15:22 | tharangi, I think the idea of the mouse traveling in a circle once per measure is a decent metaphor | |
15:22 | and seems to work reliably right now | |
15:23 | still has to make that code more robust | |
15:23 | tharangi | walterbender: ohhh...thanks. We can use them for examples section. |
15:24 | walterbender | has some more ideas on generalizing some of the concepts |
15:24 | tharangi | we can use that to show how to use graphics..right... |
15:24 | walterbender | I think it will also help explain how the music itself works |
15:25 | tharangi, I will have a new Hot Cross Buns example for you later today :) | |
15:25 | tharangi | what is your idea on presenting content for components section rather than just block image and the text |
15:25 | walterbender | tharangi, I think a small gif animation is appropriate in many cases |
15:26 | maybe we have links to pop ups rather than everything inline? | |
15:26 | tony37 | sorry have to leave - bye |
15:26 | walterbender | tony37, TTYL |
15:26 | we should wrap up the meeting | |
15:26 | any questions for tharangi ? | |
15:27 | tharangi | can do that, GIFs. |
15:27 | could you explain more about having popups | |
15:29 | Tabs16 | walterbender: Are free after the meeting? |
15:29 | walterbender | Tabs16, yes |
15:29 | tharangi, let me end the meeting first | |
15:29 | Tabs16 | Need to ask some quick questions |
15:29 | walterbender | thanks everyone for your updates |
15:30 | and please do try to test the RPi and SOaS builds if you have time. | |
15:30 | #end-meeting | |
15:30 | meeting | Meeting ended Mon Jul 10 15:30:20 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. (v 0.1.4) |
15:30 | Minutes: http://meeting.sugarlabs.org/s[…]-10T13:59:15.html | |
15:30 | Log: http://meeting.sugarlabs.org/s[…]17-07-10T13:59:15 | |
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15:31 | walterbender | tharangi, I just mean, rather than having the animation embedded, have a button to click and it pops open in a window |
15:31 | Tabs16, what's up? | |
15:31 | Tabs16 | walterbender: According to MB's code, I am creating a dropdown for filter type |
15:32 | tharangi | walterbender: ahh..got it. I will share some screens soon. |
15:32 | Tabs16 | just like we have for set drum block |
15:32 | I have created a special input "filtertypes" value block | |
15:33 | but how do I set it as default when the user pulls out a filter block | |
15:34 | I am unable to seek inspiration from "set drum" in this case | |
15:36 | second case is preferred, do I need to create a 'filtertypein' or something https://usercontent.irccloud-c[…]10%2021-05-01.png | |
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15:46 | walterbender | Tabs16, I think we will need something like that, yes |
15:47 | Tabs16, but just use text blocks for the time being | |
15:47 | once we figure out all the cases we need to support, we can add the additional selectors | |
15:47 | Tabs16 | I have made that one :'( |
15:47 | and used the cases as per ayush's design | |
15:47 | I can always alter that | |
15:48 | but I dont know how to put filtertype input as default | |
15:49 | like in "set drum" block we have the "drumname" value block as default | |
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16:17 | walterbender | Tabs16, hi... sorry... was AFK |
16:17 | Tabs16 | No issues walterbender :) |
16:18 | walterbender | Tabs16, it is a bit complicated but easiest to do by using a macro |
16:18 | Tabs16 | macro :'( |
16:18 | walterbender | Tabs16, don't worry about it yet |
16:19 | Tabs16 | Ok, I will manually use it then |
16:19 | in any case, the text input works fine too | |
16:19 | walterbender | Tabs16, FWIW, the easy way to make a macro is just to create the blocks you need in a project and save it. It gives the code you need for the macro (with very minor tweaking) |
16:20 | Tabs16 | Okay, I am going to try this now :D |
16:29 | oh wow, I did it :D | |
16:29 | yaayyy | |
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