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| 19:00 | walterbender | hola |
| 19:00 | which SLOBs are here? | |
| 19:00 | samsongoddy? | |
| 19:00 | CanoeBerry? | |
| 19:00 | samsongoddy | Hello |
| 19:00 | walterbender | hi samsongoddy |
| 19:01 | samsongoddy | Glad you made it to this meeting |
| 19:01 | walterbender | samsongoddy, let's hope some other SLOBs join us |
| 19:01 | samsongoddy | Yeah |
| 19:02 | CanoeBerry | Hi! |
| 19:02 | samsongoddy | I hope so. |
| 19:02 | elverma | Hello |
| 19:02 | elih | Hello :-) |
| 19:03 | walterbender | just need one more for a quorum |
| 19:03 | but we can get started in any case | |
| 19:03 | #start-meeting | |
| 19:03 | meeting | Meeting started Fri Apr 7 19:03:42 2017 UTC. The chair is walterbender. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
| 19:03 | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #endmeeting | |
| 19:03 | walterbender | #topic GSoC/Outreachy |
| 19:04 | Nothing to decide here... just an update | |
| 19:04 | we are at the point where we need to review applications | |
| 19:04 | ignacio | Hi everyone |
| 19:04 | walterbender | we have about a dozen for Outreachy and 45 for GSoC |
| 19:05 | hi ignacio | |
| 19:05 | we have a quorum :) | |
| 19:05 | I invite anyone from the community to review the applications and we can still add mentors | |
| 19:05 | Next week we need to let Google know how many slots we want | |
| 19:06 | and then we need to choose our interns for the summer | |
| 19:06 | ignacio | Regarding GSoC, is the webapp sending emails? |
| 19:06 | I'm not getting any email about gsoc, like, I don't know when someone comments or so | |
| 19:06 | walterbender | I don't know. I have not seen any comments yet |
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| 19:06 | kaametza | hi all! sorry I'm late |
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| 19:07 | ifeanyimatthew | Hi all. Sorry 4 coming late |
| 19:07 | walterbender | just to let people know, we have some Sugarizer proposals, Music Blocks proposals, and a bunch of Sugar projects |
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| 19:08 | walterbender | Updating the website, revamping ASLO, revamping collaboration, revamping the Journal |
| 19:08 | lots of exciting and relevant stuff | |
| 19:08 | llaske | hi all, sorry to be late |
| 19:08 | walterbender | so I am looking forward to a productive summer |
| 19:08 | Hi kaametza and llaske | |
| 19:08 | icarito | hi |
| 19:08 | walterbender | I was just giving a GSoC update |
| 19:09 | llaske | less candidate than last year |
| 19:09 | walterbender | I will organize a mentor meeting next week (prob. Wednesday) |
| 19:09 | llaske | okay |
| 19:09 | walterbender | llaske, a bit more focused and a bit more diverse. |
| 19:09 | llaske | we should prepare a grid to score proposal |
| 19:09 | walterbender | Outrreachy gave us a lot of reach into candidates we were not reaching in the past. |
| 19:10 | llaske, a grid would be good. We can include an Outreachy slot too. | |
| 19:10 | llaske | last year we had a google sheet I think it was done by Dave |
| 19:11 | walterbender | I can do it over the weekend. |
| 19:11 | llaske | ok, I will complete it |
| 19:11 | walterbender | anything else re GSoC/Outreachy? |
| 19:12 | ignacio, did the SFC ever get back to you re a travel advance? | |
| 19:12 | ignacio | Nope |
| 19:12 | walterbender | :P |
| 19:12 | ignacio, when is the summit? | |
| 19:12 | ignacio | I guess we will just have to wait, June 5 |
| 19:13 | llaske | sorry to not answer Ignacio but if we need to vote, it's +1 for me |
| 19:13 | walterbender | ignacio, we should try to get the tickets sooner than later |
| 19:13 | ignacio | Do you know if Google already sent the $2400 to the org? |
| 19:13 | thanks, llaske | |
| 19:13 | walterbender | ignacio, maybe Adam, who is a self-proclaimed expert in finding good flights can help. |
| 19:14 | kaametza | walterbender, does SFC require us to vote for this travel advance? |
| 19:14 | ignacio | walterbender, I already sent a link with the desired flights (the same as Cristian), if I could get the same flights it would be awesome |
| 19:14 | llaske | SFC are sometimes strange: they asked me for some evidence that I was a GSoC summit thought I have lunch with them there... |
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| 19:15 | walterbender | kaametza, I don't think they need a vote... I am uncertain that they will do it at all... they did not in the past, but I have not asked in a few years |
| 19:15 | ignacio | I guess I will not get money in advance (like students, to pay transportation and food, etc) :P |
| 19:15 | ifeanyimatthew | I think having Ignacio and Cristian in one flight would be nice |
| 19:15 | walterbender | ignacio, we had the same problem with the Colombia project... remember? |
| 19:16 | kaametza | walterbender, maybe if we vote on a motion they will do it |
| 19:16 | llaske | yes I think it's better to vote. To avoid that SFC asked us later |
| 19:16 | walterbender | kaametza, I guess it doesn't hurt. |
| 19:16 | Wanna make a motion? | |
| 19:17 | kaametza | ignacio, can you confirm how much do you require? |
| 19:17 | llaske | Motion: To do an advance for Ignacio to attend to the GCI summit |
| 19:17 | walterbender | seconded |
| 19:17 | samsongoddy | +1 here |
| 19:17 | llaske | +1 |
| 19:17 | walterbender | +1 |
| 19:17 | kaametza | +1 |
| 19:17 | CanoeBerry | +1 |
| 19:18 | elverma | +1 |
| 19:18 | ignacio | kaametza: the tickets are ~ 1350 https://www.google.com/flights[…]A984-MIASFO1AA167,SFOMIA0AA931-MIAMVD0AA989;a=AA |
| 19:18 | Anything to help me with the transportation will be fine | |
| 19:18 | walterbender | motion passes |
| 19:18 | I'll be sure to let the SFC know. | |
| 19:19 | ignacio | thanks :) |
| 19:19 | kaametza | ignacio, please do define how much do you need so that walterbender and/or CanoeBerry can address the issue to SFC |
| 19:20 | ignacio | "That said, I would also like to know if it's possible that from that money I get $350 -- before June-- sent to a Payoneer account (so I can extract in a ATM) or less (students are getting $375 this year, which is the money Google gives to them to cover transportation/no paid meals, etc)." |
| 19:20 | walterbender | It should be no problem to stay within the budget of $2400 since Google is handling the hotel separately |
| 19:21 | ifeanyimatthew | +1 |
| 19:22 | kaametza | just to confirm it is USD$350 what you require in advance? |
| 19:23 | walterbender | ignacio, ^^ |
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| 19:25 | ignacio | kaametza: that's correct |
| 19:25 | walterbender | shall we go to the next topic? |
| 19:25 | samsongoddy | Yes |
| 19:25 | walterbender | #topic ISGE proposal |
| 19:26 | kaametza, wanna just let everyone know what is happening with this? | |
| 19:27 | kaametza | walterbender, we did apply for funding a local marathon for customizing a version of Sugarizer |
| 19:27 | walterbender | great |
| 19:28 | when do you hear? | |
| 19:28 | kaametza | https://zoomgrants.com/printpr[…]pid=77984&print=R |
| 19:28 | one month or so, we really hope to get it! | |
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| 19:28 | kaametza | so we can have you all around :D |
| 19:28 | walterbender | would be great |
| 19:28 | good luck | |
| 19:28 | llaske | very nice proposal |
| 19:29 | it inspire us to ask to a local sponsor a sort of marathon to write pedagogical sheet | |
| 19:29 | kaametza | thx! it is the Internet Society Global Engagement 2017 Beyond the Net Medium and Large Grants Programme |
| 19:29 | it is perfect for Sugarizer :D | |
| 19:30 | llaske | sure |
| 19:30 | wish you the best for that | |
| 19:30 | and will be please to help if it works | |
| 19:31 | kaametza | llaske, I'm very optimistic that we can take Sugarizer one step closer to local teachers |
| 19:31 | walterbender | llaske, speaking of Sugarizer, any time you are ready, there are Turtle updates worth pulling |
| 19:31 | llaske | I've tried to install Turtle and it don't work here |
| 19:31 | We could talk about that | |
| 19:32 | but some library is missing | |
| 19:32 | (I've opened an issue in github) | |
| 19:32 | walterbender | llaske, would be good to get a bug report (issue reported) |
| 19:32 | I don't think I have seen it. | |
| 19:32 | github doesn't always send me notifications for some reason | |
| 19:33 | ignacio | You need to be "watching" the repo |
| 19:33 | walterbender | ignacio, I am "watching" it |
| 19:34 | llaske | https://github.com/walterbende[…]ocksjs/issues/331 |
| 19:34 | walterbender | llaske, anyway, the missing lib is no longer missing |
| 19:34 | as of a few days ago | |
| 19:34 | llaske | when I replace p5.min.js by p5.js it don't work either |
| 19:34 | walterbender | I updated all of the libraries |
| 19:34 | llaske | I will report other issues and sent it by mail |
| 19:34 | thanks | |
| 19:34 | I will try | |
| 19:35 | walterbender | we should not use up any more SLOB meeting time on this. |
| 19:35 | ignacio, do you have anything to tell us re the release status? | |
| 19:36 | do we have a plan yet? | |
| 19:36 | ignacio | I have not checked all pull requests/sugar at all |
| 19:36 | Last time I checked, I didn't know where to start | |
| 19:37 | walterbender | ignacio, maybe we can arrange a meeting to discuss the release with the devel team? |
| 19:37 | ignacio | Sounds good |
| 19:37 | walterbender | ignacio, please send an email to get things started |
| 19:38 | next topic? | |
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| 19:39 | walterbender | #topic Sugar Network |
| 19:39 | kaametza | I'll abstain from comment and voting :D |
| 19:39 | walterbender | @ kaametza I didn't understand exactly what you were asking for |
| 19:39 | Ibiam | hello everyone |
| 19:39 | walterbender | Maybe I missed it, but I did not see any plan |
| 19:40 | ifeanyi | Hi Ibiam |
| 19:41 | Ibiam | hey man |
| 19:41 | kaametza | I guess I'll comment then! we require funding to dedicate resources for basic Sugar Network mantainance |
| 19:41 | walterbender | who is using Sugar Network? |
| 19:41 | what needs to be done? | |
| 19:42 | kaametza | we have 40.000 connected users in Perú |
| 19:42 | walterbender | a project proposal and a description of why it is value to the community is in order |
| 19:43 | kaametza | I tried to be clear in the email... |
| 19:44 | spam is critic now that the school year started | |
| 19:44 | walterbender | I was not very clear to me... what actually needs to be done? |
| 19:44 | a real project proposal is appropriate here | |
| 19:44 | kaametza | we need to add captcha functionallity to all forms plus cleaning the Spam |
| 19:46 | walterbender | kaametza, I will work with you offline to help you with something more specific if you want... there are formalities to project proposals...a work statement, schedule, etc. |
| 19:46 | kaametza | http://jita.sugarlabs.org/node.sugarlabs.org/ |
| 19:48 | walterbender | kaametza, I am not sure what I am looking at, but it is not a project proposal |
| 19:48 | kaametza | walterbender, I did requested for Technical Service funds since this is not really a project |
| 19:49 | that's XO traffic per month | |
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| 19:49 | kaametza | it shall answer your question of who uses sugar network |
| 19:49 | walterbender | kaametza, I don't know what "technical service funds" are |
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| 19:50 | walterbender | and I don't know what the funds would be used for |
| 19:50 | and I don't know why Sugar Labs should be doing this | |
| 19:50 | all of which I am sure you can explain in a proposal | |
| 19:50 | kaametza | everyone else think the same way? |
| 19:51 | samsongoddy | I think i go with walter |
| 19:51 | A proposal can make it easier to understand | |
| 19:51 | walterbender | kaametza, I don't think anyone can say yes or no without a better idea of what it is you want to do |
| 19:52 | elverma | I would like to see a proposal as well |
| 19:52 | ifeanyi | Kaametza draft a proposal detailing all necessary info. We need details... |
| 19:53 | llaske | I didn't know Sugar Network was so extensively used |
| 19:53 | it's interesting to learn more about this | |
| 19:53 | kaametza | llaske, it's been difficult to get here |
| 19:54 | Ibiam | very interesting |
| 19:54 | kaametza | llaske, we do need funds to be able to dedicate time to clean the spam... |
| 19:55 | I asked for USD$500 | |
| 19:55 | llaske | Yes I understood that |
| 19:55 | Who is the developer of Sugar Network ? Is it still active ? | |
| 19:55 | icarito | llaske, do check previous years in that same statistics page |
| 19:56 | kaametza | Sugar Network was mainly developed by alsroot, icarito and me |
| 19:57 | but it requires urgent mantainance as the web access we have for the demo user is getting a lot of spam attack and now we need to add the captcha functionality to all the forma | |
| 19:57 | llaske | okay, do you know the complexity for you to add captcha ? |
| 19:57 | Guess two tasks are different | |
| 19:57 | kaametza | yes, that's how I estimated it will take 3 days including testing and cleaning |
| 19:58 | llaske | Adding captcha is probably simple |
| 19:58 | Cleaning could be very time consuming | |
| 19:58 | walterbender | or as simple as deleting the demo user and rebuilding it |
| 19:58 | not sure of the code base | |
| 19:59 | but these are the sorts of things one would expect in a proposal | |
| 20:00 | We are just about at the end of our hour. | |
| 20:00 | Anything else re this topic for now? | |
| 20:00 | samsongoddy | Yes |
| 20:01 | Vision, mission and goals | |
| 20:01 | For SL | |
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| 20:02 | walterbender | samsongoddy, I think that given we have been waiting for a report for over one year, it is time to reassess our approach. |
| 20:03 | samsongoddy, maybe a small group of us can draft something for comment. | |
| 20:03 | with a hard deadline. | |
| 20:03 | samsongoddy | Yes |
| 20:03 | I agree walter | |
| 20:04 | ifeanyi | An open Google doc might help to harness ideas |
| 20:04 | walterbender | +1 |
| 20:05 | is willing to make a first pass. | |
| 20:05 | ifeanyi | +1 |
| 20:06 | samsongoddy | +1 |
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| 20:06 | walterbender | OK... |
| 20:06 | has three tasks from this meeting: | |
| 20:07 | 1. contact the SFC re the travel advance | |
| 20:07 | 2. prepare the GSoC spreadsheet | |
| 20:07 | 3. draft a first pass statement of goals | |
| 20:07 | Anything else? | |
| 20:08 | samsongoddy | I think we are good |
| 20:08 | walterbender | OK. |
| 20:08 | will get to work on this over the weekend | |
| 20:08 | thanks everyone. | |
| 20:08 | ifeanyi | Thanks Walter |
| 20:09 | walterbender | #end-meeting |
| 20:09 | meeting | Meeting ended Fri Apr 7 20:09:14 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. (v 0.1.4) |
| 20:09 | Minutes: http://meeting.sugarlabs.org/s[…]-07T19:03:42.html | |
| 20:09 | Log: http://meeting.sugarlabs.org/s[…]17-04-07T19:03:42 | |
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| 20:09 | samsongoddy | Bye everyone |
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