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| 17:59 | walterbender | hi |
| 17:59 | ManashRaja | Hello |
| 17:59 | Erilyth | Hi |
| 18:02 | ignacio | Hello |
| 18:02 | is at school | |
| 18:02 | walterbender | ignacio, hola |
| 18:02 | just a quick status report | |
| 18:02 | I am about 50% done with the application | |
| 18:03 | I have not started the wikipage yet | |
| 18:03 | just a stub | |
| 18:04 | #link https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Google_Code_In_2016 | |
| 18:04 | we have several short-term tasks: | |
| 18:04 | ignacio | #start-meeting |
| 18:04 | walterbender | (1) getting mentors signed up |
| 18:04 | meeting | Meeting started Tue Oct 25 18:04:48 2016 UTC. The chair is ignacio. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
| 18:04 | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #endmeeting | |
| 18:04 | ignacio | #link https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Google_Code_In_2016 |
| 18:05 | walterbender, what's required for the application? | |
| 18:05 | walterbender | willl paste in |
| 18:05 | ignacio, a description of SL (done) | |
| 18:05 | and a bunch of questions about what we will do in GCI (started) | |
| 18:05 | and we need to prepare a collection of example projects (in the wiki) | |
| 18:06 | we can grab the beginner tasks from last year | |
| 18:06 | and the documentation tasks | |
| 18:06 | I have a lot of Music Blocks and Turtle tasks | |
| 18:06 | and we should add all the open issues from github | |
| 18:06 | ignacio | Yes, I can copy the past year wikipage and the edit it according to 2016 edition |
| 18:06 | walterbender | ignacio, +1 |
| 18:07 | maybe nice to have a script to scrape issues from github.com/sugarlabs | |
| 18:07 | ignacio | okay, I will do it |
| 18:07 | is Lionel the 2nd org admin? | |
| 18:07 | walterbender | plus we should have a few moon shots for advanced hackers |
| 18:07 | ignacio, I haven't heard back yet | |
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| 18:08 | walterbender | he expressed interest during the last SLOB meeting |
| 18:08 | so I think he will do it | |
| 18:08 | ignacio | How about Mariah being org admin? |
| 18:08 | walterbender | oh. yes. I'll invite her. she'll do it :) |
| 18:08 | ignacio | yay |
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| 18:08 | AbrahmAB | hello everyone! |
| 18:08 | TymonR | hello |
| 18:08 | hello everyone! :) | |
| 18:09 | ignacio | welcome |
| 18:09 | walterbender | if/when we get accepted we need to make sure we have decent coverage of the IRC channel. |
| 18:09 | TymonR | sorry for being a bit late |
| 18:09 | walterbender | TymonR, AbrahmAB welcome |
| 18:09 | ignacio | I will be here on summer |
| 18:09 | walterbender | I have a fair bit of work on my Day Job so I may not be available my usual 24/7 |
| 18:10 | but I will mostly be around | |
| 18:10 | ignacio | It's ok |
| 18:10 | How many mentors do we have? | |
| 18:10 | I mean, that already say yes, or want to participate | |
| 18:10 | walterbender | ignacio, no idea? |
| 18:10 | you and me? | |
| 18:10 | sam | |
| 18:10 | ignacio | We should email past year mentors |
| 18:10 | walterbender | presumably everyone who is here |
| 18:11 | ManashRaja | I am new but, I will be able to help in the docs and website for GCI |
| 18:11 | walterbender | a few others so far |
| 18:11 | ignacio | Maybe on GCI 2015 winners election email |
| 18:11 | walterbender | +1 |
| 18:11 | it was great that you and sam could mentor last year | |
| 18:11 | ignacio | Do we need to have mentors before the org application is submitted? |
| 18:11 | walterbender | no... |
| 18:11 | TymonR | I could be mentor this year too and it would be really nice, but I am considering whether I shouldn't give a chance trying as student this year |
| 18:12 | walterbender | in fact, I don't know if you can sign up as a mentor yet |
| 18:12 | TymonR, we will use the github task again this year :) | |
| 18:12 | ignacio | TymonR, I hope that u do it :P |
| 18:13 | Erilyth | I would like to be a mentor as well. Do we have to only stick to the existing projects or could a new project be started and tasks be used for GCI as well? |
| 18:13 | ignacio | I think that one of our problems last year, was not having "easy" tasks, or at least not that easy as beginner tasks |
| 18:13 | walterbender | ignacio, it is a hard balance to reach |
| 18:14 | I had some "design a turtle project" or "design a Physics project" task that no one did :P | |
| 18:14 | I thought those would have been popular | |
| 18:14 | ignacio | The point is, should we point advanced students to advanced tasks? |
| 18:14 | walterbender | ignacio, yes |
| 18:14 | ignacio | -> But how? |
| 18:14 | TymonR | walterbender, that's great :) I created it with intent to introduce people to collaborative programming and I hope it worked out well. With some modification it could be used this year too, especially because Sugar has not many beginner tasks |
| 18:14 | walterbender | we cannot force it, but we can encourage it |
| 18:15 | ignacio, I think it is a simple matter of engaging the students in a dialog | |
| 18:15 | TymonR | ignacio, it is a subject of my serious consideration :P |
| 18:16 | walterbender | anyway, the short-term task is generating some tasks so as to give our application some credibility |
| 18:16 | if ignacio sets up the framework from last-year's page, we can all start populating it | |
| 18:16 | TymonR | walterbender, +1 especially when mentors choose winners and amount of finished tasks almost doesn't play any role in this process. we should judge people with their abilities and work done. |
| 18:17 | walterbender | TymonR, yes |
| 18:17 | we need to remind the students of this | |
| 18:17 | it becomes quite contentious at times | |
| 18:17 | TymonR | it is obvious when someone with advanced programming skills or experience was doing only easy tasks to increase the counter, he doesn't deserve to be the winner |
| 18:18 | walterbender | (except for ignacio who did more tasks than the rest of the students combined) |
| 18:18 | ignacio, the other thing we need to do is recruit students | |
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| 18:18 | walterbender | we need more diversity in who participates |
| 18:19 | ignacio_ | got disconnected |
| 18:19 | walterbender | just solicited participation from a school in Thailand |
| 18:19 | ignacio_ | Cool, we have students from Paraguay |
| 18:19 | walterbender | ignacio, what you missed: ignacio, the other thing we need to do is recruit students |
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| 18:20 | walterbender | would be great to have a broad reach |
| 18:20 | TymonR | walterbender, it is good idea - I can spread a word in my community and I reckon we should also make Sugar Labs' page on Facebook more popular. It is incredibly powerful tool to reach people. |
| 18:20 | ignacio_ | Well, yes, but most of the students that came last year were not sugar related |
| 18:20 | walterbender | TymonR, +1 |
| 18:20 | ignacio_ | most of them did the git beginner task and nothing else :/ |
| 18:21 | walterbender | ignacio_, i dont' mind as long as a few do more |
| 18:21 | it is not a lot of overhead to manage the beginner tasks | |
| 18:21 | people have to start somewhere | |
| 18:21 | ignacio_ | But also what I feel, is like previous year students come to win. Not to be mean or something. But its like: XX won ok -> He can't win anymore -> I have the chance |
| 18:21 | walterbender | but (1) how to get more people to start and (2) encourage them to go to harder tasks |
| 18:21 | ignacio_ | Thats what I feel with Daksh tbh |
| 18:22 | TymonR | there is no way to deny them from doing beginner task, for some it could be a good start, for some an "easy point", for some the end of their adventure with GCI |
| 18:22 | ignacio_ | But maybe the tasks should point to SUGAR directly (the interface) |
| 18:23 | walterbender | ignacio_, I don't understand what you mean? |
| 18:23 | ignacio_ | as example: the git task |
| 18:23 | it was just a pull request, not even opening sugar | |
| 18:23 | walterbender | ignacio_, we should try to do a better job with the beginner tasks |
| 18:24 | ignacio_ | So, my idea: TO edit that task and add something like "Take a screenshot of your sugar running instance, and then submit a pull request" |
| 18:24 | walterbender | installing SOAS was a beginner task... |
| 18:24 | ignacio_ | or do something like GSoC, that a screenshot with their name is asked |
| 18:24 | walterbender | or sugar-build |
| 18:24 | ignacio_ | Yes, but you only can do 2 tasks |
| 18:24 | which one will you prefer if you are only looking for a tshirt or certificate? | |
| 18:24 | walterbender | ignacio_, that could be a first non-beginner task |
| 18:24 | ignacio_ | The one that requires "a lot of work" or the easy one? |
| 18:24 | TymonR | ignacio_, yeah that's why I said git task requires a few modifications as it was actually somehow too easy. Maybe it should involve command-line git too> |
| 18:25 | walterbender | well... we have 1 month to get the details worked out |
| 18:25 | meanwhile, we should get some ideas expressed in the wiki | |
| 18:26 | ignacio_ | yes, I will try to edit the wikipage tonight |
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| 18:28 | walterbender | thanks |
| 18:28 | anything else for today? | |
| 18:28 | ignacio_ | nope |
| 18:28 | walterbender | once ignacio_ gets the page set up, please add your name as a mentor |
| 18:28 | AbrahmAB | +1 |
| 18:29 | ignacio_ | so, thats it? |
| 18:29 | TymonR | ok, I will consider my role this year and add myself or... wait until GCI begins :) |
| 18:29 | ignacio_ | Thanks everyone for attending the meeting :) |
| 18:29 | ManashRaja | +1 |
| 18:30 | Thanks :) | |
| 18:30 | TymonR | +1 |
| 18:30 | walterbender | ignacio_, end meeting? |
| 18:30 | ignacio_ | yay |
| 18:30 | 3 | |
| 18:30 | walterbender | 2 |
| 18:30 | TymonR | thanks everyone and thanks ignacio_ for setting it up |
| 18:30 | ignacio_ | 1 :) |
| 18:30 | #end-meeting | |
| 18:30 | ignacio_ is now known as ignacio | |
| 18:30 | ignacio | #end-meeting |
| 18:30 | meeting | Meeting ended Tue Oct 25 18:30:53 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. (v 0.1.4) |
| 18:30 | Minutes: http://meeting.sugarlabs.org/s[…]-25T18:04:48.html | |
| 18:30 | Log: http://meeting.sugarlabs.org/s[…]16-10-25T18:04:48 | |
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| 18:31 | ignacio | bye for now :) |
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| 18:31 | Ibiam | hello everyone |
| 18:31 | walterbender | Ibiam, we are just ending |
| 18:31 | http://meeting.sugarlabs.org/s[…]16-10-25T18:04:48 | |
| 18:31 | need to go off line for an hour | |
| 18:32 | Ibiam | ooohhh sorry I'm late, been busy all day, just came online |
| 18:33 | TymonR | i've got to go, thanks again and goodbye |
| 18:33 | goes afk | |
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