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11:54 | AbrahmAB | Hi Samtoday, |
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11:55 | AbrahmAB | samtoday: I will implement the collab for physics activity at first |
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11:57 | samtoday | Hello! |
11:58 | walterbender | hi samtoday |
11:58 | AbrahmAB | hi samtoday |
11:58 | samtoday | AbrahmAB: How activity specific is the collab going to be? Shouldn't it be part of the toolkit api? |
11:58 | I'm pretty excited by the direction though, it is going very well! | |
11:58 | AbrahmAB | yeah! I will create a base module in toolkit |
11:58 | samtoday | walterbender: hello! how are you? |
11:58 | AbrahmAB: awsome! | |
11:59 | AbrahmAB | and refactor physics collab according to the new module |
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11:59 | samtoday | awsome! btw, how are things going? |
11:59 | AbrahmAB | standalone testing was great. |
11:59 | Lets see how it goes with sugar | |
12:00 | samtoday | hopefully well, have you tested intergrating it with the Gtk+ eventloop? |
12:00 | AbrahmAB | nope :( |
12:01 | walterbender | lets begin the meeting |
12:01 | #start-meeting | |
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12:01 | samtoday | that's ok. There is some information in the ZeroMQ faq about how to deal with event loops |
12:01 | walterbender | AbrahmAB, do you want to continue with your update? |
12:01 | AbrahmAB | sure! |
12:01 | hemant_kasat | hi everyone ! |
12:02 | AbrahmAB | this week I tested standalone broadcasing feature of zeromq alongwith avahi |
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12:02 | AbrahmAB | Now I will implement a new module for activity collab in the toolkit |
12:03 | walterbender | AbrahmAB, nice |
12:03 | AbrahmAB | this module will be the base module that can be implemented in activity's collabwrapper |
12:03 | looking forward to refactor physics activity collab at first | |
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12:04 | walterbender | +1 |
12:04 | AbrahmAB | :) |
12:06 | walterbender | AbrahmAB, please report on the devel list the progress of your tests this week |
12:06 | AbrahmAB | ok! |
12:06 | walterbender | lp1, do you have an update? |
12:06 | lp1 | Sure ! :) |
12:06 | samtoday | AbrahmAB: you talked about not needing a port... does that mean that it runs on a default port every time? |
12:07 | AbrahmAB | it will need ports |
12:07 | lp1 | Last week I started to merge my changes on Lionel's sugarizer repository with the one I've made during the last months |
12:07 | AbrahmAB | we can assign different ports for different activities |
12:07 | lp1 | I made some improvements on the UI for the network panel, and added a new feature to ask the user if he want to set SugariserOS as default launcher during the first boot. But we've had a meeting this morning with my two mentors and decided to move this to the second boot ! |
12:08 | So next week I'm going to keep on merging my changes with Lionel's sugarizer sources and finish the UI fixes and improvements according to their reviews :) | |
12:08 | walterbender | lp1, makes sense so as to let people experience it first |
12:08 | lp1 | Yes exactly |
12:09 | samtoday | AbrahmAB: Good! |
12:10 | AbrahmAB: hopefully, we can avoid some of the mistakes that were made in the original design - like asuming that only 1 of each activity type would be active at one time | |
12:10 | I'm sure that you will! | |
12:10 | Btw, did the bug that I sent make sense AbrahmAB? | |
12:11 | AbrahmAB | samtoday: re- design are you suggesting that invite_menu can have more "Invite to.." |
12:12 | samtoday | AbrahmAB: hum, I think that we are talking about different bugs. What are you replying to? |
12:12 | AbrahmAB | samtoday: bug that u pointed out in mail? |
12:12 | walterbender | lp1, what is the plan for this week? |
12:13 | AbrahmAB | we could just first chk if buddy is list before removing |
12:13 | samtoday | yes and no |
12:13 | AbrahmAB | *buddy is in the list |
12:13 | samtoday | the issue is that the code asume that avahi already de-duplicates the buddies |
12:13 | AbrahmAB | samtoday: hmm |
12:14 | samtoday | so Alice is using Sugar |
12:14 | lp1 | This week I'm going to finish to merge the SugarizerOS wireless scan in the neighbourhood feature on Lionel's repository and we're going to work on the UI to make some of the features easier to use. We're going to work on the deployment and the build of the projet with Michael too |
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12:14 | samtoday | she broadcasts over Avahi, which then broadcasts over all network interfaces. Alice is now broadcast over the WiFi and Ethernet and VirtualBox connection |
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12:14 | walterbender | mohayon, where is the deployment going to be? |
12:15 | lp1, ^^ | |
12:15 | samtoday | Ahmed is in the neighbourhood view. He is connected to the same WiFi and Ethernet network as Alice. Therefore, avahi recieves Alice's broadcast twice |
12:15 | AbrahmAB | samtoday: okay! |
12:15 | samtoday | Avahi procedes to tell the Sugar code about 2 Ahmeds - a Ahmed (via WiFi) and Ahmed (via Ethernet). |
12:16 | They have the same id and metadata | |
12:16 | lp1 | The goal is to make an automatic and lighter (because so far the repository is very heavy) build for the whole projet. Michael uses a tool for that that he wants to try with me, it's working as a hook on a git repository |
12:16 | samtoday | but we need to merge the 2 Ahmeds |
12:16 | AbrahmAB | we could simply check is the buddy in the list or not before adding them |
12:17 | samtoday: can u xplain on merging two ahemds? | |
12:17 | samtoday | so on a basic level (I don't know what the code looks like now) |
12:17 | mohayon | walterbender: Saint-Ouen, near Paris |
12:18 | walterbender | mohayon, nice. A school? |
12:18 | AbrahmAB | samtoday: needs to be investigated |
12:18 | samtoday | keep a data dict that is id->dict(interface->metadata) |
12:19 | maybe? That feels like a naive implimentation | |
12:19 | mohayon | Walterbender : Yes, I think that they were using XO |
12:20 | Walterbender : they will have have some old samsung 10 inches tabs | |
12:20 | AbrahmAB | samtoday: y do we need to merge both Ahmeds? |
12:20 | walterbender | really? please keep the community in the loop regarding your observations. |
12:20 | samtoday | AbrahmAB: I suppose we don't |
12:21 | but we need to keep both in case we loose 1 copy and not the other | |
12:21 | eg. Alice now unplugs the Ethernet cable. Ahmed should still be visible - he is avaliable via WiFi | |
12:21 | AbrahmAB | samtoday: yes! |
12:22 | walterbender | hemant_kasat, want to give us an update? |
12:22 | AbrahmAB | samtoday: I will try to look into it |
12:22 | hemant_kasat | yes !! , I wrote a blog post which was due since long time, here is the link https://docs.google.com/docume[…]/edit?usp=sharing |
12:23 | for now it is draft only, I will publish it soon | |
12:23 | samtoday | AbrahmAB: thanks! |
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12:24 | AbrahmAB | samtoday: so should I first work on the new collab module or fix the bug |
12:24 | pikurasa | hemant_kasat: Checking it out now. |
12:24 | hemant_kasat | pikurasa : let me know what changes needs to be done |
12:24 | walterbender | hemant_kasat, you merged my PR? |
12:25 | samtoday | AbrahmAB: Why don't you fix the bug first. It should be quick. |
12:25 | hemant_kasat | walterbender yes i merged it |
12:26 | walterbender | hemant_kasat, there is some more cleaning up to be done but then I think it is ready for merging to master |
12:26 | hemant_kasat | walterbender, like ?? |
12:26 | walterbender | hemant_kasat, you can use addbutton for all the buttons |
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12:27 | AbrahmAB_ | samtoday: +1 |
12:27 | walterbender | and you can use _ for the internal instance variables |
12:27 | and get rid of unused code/variables | |
12:27 | and we need to come up with a new icon for play | |
12:27 | I have some ideas | |
12:27 | hemant_kasat | walterbender, yes I will do that |
12:28 | yeah we need a new icon | |
12:28 | walterbender | hemant_kasat, would be good to wrap this one up and then focus on finishing the tempo widget |
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12:29 | pikurasa | walterbender: What are your ideas for the new icon? |
12:29 | hemant_kasat | walterbender , yeah let me know which icon can be used, i will clean the code and will make a PR |
12:30 | AbrahmAB_ | samtoday: I will fix the bug by this weekend and then we are good to go with activity collab. |
12:30 | samtoday | Great! |
12:30 | AbrahmAB_ | samtoday: anything else that I am missing?? |
12:30 | samtoday | no, it is all good! |
12:30 | talk to you later I suppose! | |
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12:30 | AbrahmAB_ | samtoday: bbye |
12:30 | walterbender | pikurasa, I was thinking of embedding the > in a mountain or valley shape depending on bottom to top to bottom or top to bottom to top |
12:31 | pikurasa | hemant_kasat: In your blog, "The proportion is represented by the two input boxes as shown in the above figure." you should be more specific what kind of "proportion" |
12:31 | davelab6 | hey |
12:31 | sorry im late | |
12:31 | elih | hey dave |
12:32 | pikurasa | walterbender: Yes, that makes sense. |
12:32 | hemant_kasat | pikurasa : thanks for noticing it out, I will update that |
12:32 | walterbender | hemant_kasat, in general, the pitch staircase is looking good. |
12:33 | hemant_kasat | walterbender , for the tempo what other things needs to be done ? |
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12:33 | iamutkarshtiwari | tony37: Hi |
12:33 | pikurasa | Yes, the pitch staircase is pretty close so far. |
12:33 | iamutkarshtiwari | Sorry for being late. |
12:34 | pikurasa | hemant_kasat: Has the timing been corrected on Tempo widget? |
12:34 | tony37 | iamutkarshtiwari hi |
12:34 | walterbender | hemant_kasat, I see you go rid of the check button on the pitch starcase. you are checking for change in the input now? |
12:34 | pikurasa | Last I checked it was not accurate... |
12:34 | iamutkarshtiwari | tony37: Did you test the .xo bundle? |
12:35 | tony37 | iamutkarshtiwari not had the chance yet |
12:35 | iamutkarshtiwari I was able to set up a school server for the test | |
12:35 | hemant_kasat | pikurasa , I changed some of the things, please let me know if it is still not correct |
12:36 | iamutkarshtiwari | tony37: Did you go through my 'index.html' for 'en-ck12' and 'get-books.cfg' files? |
12:36 | hemant_kasat | walterbender , yes now the BPM is initialized with the master beats per minute value |
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12:36 | walterbender | hemant_kasat, +1 |
12:36 | tony37 | iamutkarshtiwari no chance yet |
12:36 | walterbender | hemant_kasat, does it update the value in that block when you hit save? |
12:37 | iamutkarshtiwari | tony37: I have downloaded the 'wikipedia' files for the schools. It's 2.5Gb in size. |
12:37 | hemant_kasat | yes thats needs to be done, i was trying that but then i switched to pitchstair case, will do it soon |
12:37 | pikurasa | hemant_kasat: The timing is off. |
12:38 | 60 BPM should be one second to go from left side to right side or visa versa. | |
12:38 | tony37 | iamutkarshtiwari seems about right - it was limited to fit a dvd |
12:38 | pikurasa | Also, what is this value attached to the tempo block? (a default of "2") |
12:38 | What is it for? | |
12:39 | iamutkarshtiwari | tony37: I am on Mac OSX so I downloaded the .dmg version of kiwix server. |
12:40 | hemant_kasat | when i started Tempo I attached this argument, not sure why ? , i think there is no need for that |
12:40 | i will remove it | |
12:40 | tony37 | iamutkarshtiwari fine - when ready we can test against the school server |
12:40 | pikurasa | hemant_kasat: Yes, please remove! |
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12:41 | pikurasa | hemant_kasat: When you work, do you make a "TO DO" list? |
12:41 | I think it would be helpful. | |
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12:41 | pikurasa | Some of my best work is when I have a list in front of me. |
12:41 | hemant_kasat | pikurasa: according to the implementation 60 BPM should correspond to 1 second but it is not the case , i will figure it out |
12:42 | pikurasa , most of the time a make a "TO DO" list | |
12:42 | walterbender | yagarwal, any update for this week? |
12:42 | pikurasa | hemant_kasat: Yes, please check fix this. |
12:42 | iamutkarshtiwari | tony37: Sorry I got disconnected. Did I miss anything ? |
12:42 | hemant_kasat | pikurasa , sure !! |
12:42 | tony37 | iamutkarshtiwari no |
12:42 | yagarwal | Yeah, here is the latest pr I've been working on https://github.com/sugarlabs/e[…]-activity/pull/88 |
12:43 | the welcome screen is done and now I'll be finishing up the functionality issues we have reported on the repo | |
12:44 | davelab6 | walterbender: i think yash has made great progress lately :) |
12:44 | iamutkarshtiwari | tony37: What would you suggest? I am thinking on adding that option('SchoolServer Wikipedia') in the dropdown box which contains other options like 'English wikipedia, German wikipedia, ' etc. |
12:44 | davelab6 | walterbender: last weekend eli and i met up here in nyc and tested the .xo file he built |
12:44 | walterbender | yagarwal, you sorted out the issue with pango? |
12:45 | davelab6 | https://ci6.googleusercontent.[…]e1-ft#https://raw.githubusercontent.com/sugarlabs/edit-fonts-activity/gh-pages/files/img/welcome-page.png |
12:45 | yagarwal | not exactly, I have replaced it with the new way to import it, but in doing so I can not use the ellisize command |
12:46 | davelab6 | elih made a mock - https://sugarlabs.github.io/ed[…]e-ux-concept.html - and yash implemented it :) |
12:46 | yagarwal | I can't figure out how to ellipsize a label using the modern Pango lib |
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12:47 | yagarwal | waltebender: but the xo works |
12:47 | so you can test it out | |
12:47 | tony37 | iamutkarshtiwari we will need a config option to list the avialable wikipeidias on the school server |
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12:48 | iamutkarshtiwari | tony37: Similar to what happens in 'GetBooks' ? |
12:48 | via 'get-books.cfg' | |
12:48 | tony37 | iamutkarshtiwari yes |
12:49 | walterbender | yagarwal, I'll download your latest bits and take a look |
12:50 | iamutkarshtiwari | tony37: I havent' tried serving zim files to 'InfoSlicer' yet. Do the content look exactly the same as when fetched online? |
12:50 | yagarwal | here is the link to the xo bundle https://github.com/sugarlabs/e[…]st/EditFonts-1.xo |
12:51 | tony37 | iamutkarshtiwari - don't know |
12:52 | iamutkarshtiwari if you use the kiwix server, you should get the html page for the article | |
12:53 | walterbender Perhaps iamutkarshtiwari should give a report | |
12:53 | iamutkarshtiwari | tony37: Infoslicer helps user view 'textual'(text) and 'visual'(images) content separately from an article for a searched topic. We can drag and drop images and text separately in to our own content. |
12:53 | walterbender | iamutkarshtiwari, please tell us about your week |
12:54 | iamutkarshtiwari | I have tried adding offline support to the 'GetBooks' activity. |
12:54 | For the test purpose, I used localhost to serve the book collections and | |
12:55 | for the book collection I downloaded the 'Rachel' and 'Gutenberg' offline sources. | |
12:55 | Here is what it looks like - | |
12:55 | http://imgur.com/a/833K9 | |
12:55 | http://imgur.com/a/b7vtc | |
12:56 | walterbender | iamutkarshtiwari, looks like it is working |
12:57 | iamutkarshtiwari | Yes. |
12:57 | walterbender | iamutkarshtiwari, any issues? |
12:57 | iamutkarshtiwari | No issues as of now. I haven't used OPDS to get books from school servers. |
12:58 | Instead I used another technique to parse the index.html files of the books collections and display them in GetBooks activity. | |
12:59 | Since the content is offline, I didn't find any need for OPDS | |
13:00 | walterbender | iamutkarshtiwari, so you have a parallel system? or one system using a local port when available? |
13:01 | iamutkarshtiwari | The only work left is to create a script to automate the configuration of 'get-books.cfg' depending on the book collection. |
13:01 | tony37 | walterbender localhost is used because iamutkarshtiwari does not have a school server. The intent is to access the school server to get the books |
13:01 | iamutkarshtiwari | I have a parallel system. |
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13:02 | iamutkarshtiwari | walterbender: The access urls look like https://localhost:8000/schools[…]rachel/index.html |
13:02 | and http://localhost:8000/schoolse[…]enberg/index.html | |
13:02 | html* | |
13:02 | sorry http* | |
13:03 | But this can be test with another system over wifi and an XO. | |
13:04 | walterbender | tony37, I guess I am confused. It would seem that we want to use the same protocol whether accessing from a remote server, a school server, or local |
13:05 | tony37 | One benefit is that GetBooks may gain the capability to access additional collections on the internet such as pustakalaya by adapting to the source's methods |
13:06 | walterbender | tony37, but I don't see how that impacts where the data is coming from |
13:06 | maybe I am missing something | |
13:06 | tony37 | walterbender The data could come from http://www.rachel.org/al;sdkjfl;as or http://schoolserver/rachel/;aldkjfl |
13:07 | walterbender | or localhost |
13:07 | tony37 | yes, but we would need a different port. The schoolserver already has khan academy and kiwix using localhosts |
13:08 | walterbender | tony37, I follow, but what does that have to do with the protocol for the data retrieved? |
13:09 | tony37 | Rachel, gutenberg, and pustakalaya do not use opds protocol |
13:09 | walterbender | tony37, OK. |
13:09 | tony37, I was confused | |
13:09 | I thought iamutkarshtiwari was using a different protocol for his own convenience | |
13:10 | tony37 | It is tricky. I think InfoSlicer will pose similar problems since the schoolserver delivers this content with kiwix from zim files |
13:10 | iamutkarshtiwari | tony37: Yes. At OLE Nepal, They used simple urls like http://localhost/schoolserver/pustakalay.. |
13:10 | tony37 | and server side php code |
13:12 | walterbender the goal is to have both activities bring content to the Journal in similar ways and with the same results from the user's perspective | |
13:13 | iamutkarshtiwari | walterbender: The technique involved here is collection specific that is for 'Rachel' and |
13:13 | 'Gutenberg' | |
13:13 | tony37 | Yes |
13:14 | walterbender | tony37, iamutkarshtiwari got it. thanks fo rexplaining |
13:15 | anything else to report? iamutkarshtiwari what are your plans for this coming week? | |
13:16 | iamutkarshtiwari | I am working on adding similar support to 'InfoSlicer' to download wiki content from school servers |
13:17 | For that I would be using kiwix server and wikipedia offline zim files for schools. | |
13:19 | The tricky part would be testing whether | |
13:19 | the activity is able to display the textual and visual content from the zim files onto the display area. | |
13:20 | If not, we need to find a way to do it exactly with the offline content same to what happens when fetching content from online sources for eg. en.wikipedia.org | |
13:22 | My overall progress can be tracked on my blog - http://iamutkarshtiwari.wordpress.com | |
13:23 | walterbender | looks |
13:23 | iamutkarshtiwari, did you generate the graphic on the homepage of your blog? | |
13:23 | what tool did you use? | |
13:24 | iamutkarshtiwari | Those images were already available on wordpress. |
13:25 | walterbender | Oh :P |
13:25 | anything else for today? | |
13:25 | iamutkarshtiwari | That's all. |
13:26 | walterbender | thanks everyone for your updates |
13:26 | #end-meeting | |
13:26 | meeting | Meeting ended Fri Aug 5 13:26:06 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. (v 0.1.4) |
13:26 | Minutes: http://meeting.sugarlabs.org/s[…]-05T12:01:17.html | |
13:26 | Log: http://meeting.sugarlabs.org/s[…]16-08-05T12:01:17 | |
13:26 | iamutkarshtiwari | Bye |
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13:27 | walterbender | back in a bit |
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18:59 | walterbender | hola todos |
18:59 | tony37 | hello |
18:59 | sverma | Hello! |
19:00 | walterbender | ClaudiaU, ? |
19:00 | CanoeBerry, ? | |
19:01 | we will not have JM or Linoel today :P | |
19:01 | Lionel :) | |
19:02 | as soon as CanoeBerry and or ClaudiaU arrive we can get started | |
19:02 | Ibiam | hello |
19:02 | walterbender | tony37, thanks for the pointer re Nigeria |
19:02 | hi Ibiam | |
19:02 | Ibiam | hello Walter |
19:03 | tony37 | I hope you have a chance to check this out in your visit |
19:03 | Ibiam | what pointer is that? |
19:03 | walterbender | tony37, I will definitely pursue it |
19:04 | tony37 | I'll let Rudolf know |
19:04 | walterbender | tony37, what continent are you on these days? |
19:04 | will you be in Africa in November? | |
19:05 | Ibiam | it'll be nice to have you around tony37 |
19:05 | sverma | I'm on the road, so I'm connecting from my phone. Apologies in advance if my connection drops. |
19:05 | tony37 | Yes, but at the end of the month in Rwanda for workshops |
19:06 | walterbender | tony37, maybe you can join us in Abuja? |
19:06 | tony37 | When is that planned? |
19:06 | walterbender | tony37, probably the 2nd (or 3rd) week of November |
19:06 | we need to firm up the dates | |
19:07 | tony37 | I'll return to the US Sept. 22. I need to be there for some weeks to take care of business. |
19:07 | samsongoddy <samsongoddy!294f0706gateway/web/freenode/ip.41.79.7.6> has joined #sugar-meeting | |
19:07 | samsongoddy | hello people |
19:07 | walterbender | hi samsongoddy |
19:07 | tony37 | Abuja may be possible third or fourth week of November. |
19:07 | walterbender | tony37, I need to be home for Thanksgiving :P |
19:08 | but otherwise Nov is pretty much open | |
19:08 | samsongoddy | Yeah |
19:08 | walterbender | samsongoddy, did we confirm a date? |
19:08 | Ibiam | yeah, but the date might be chosen to favour some persons |
19:08 | samsongoddy | Not yet |
19:09 | walterbender | samsongoddy, maybe we can all meet again this week to decide and get moving on next steps |
19:09 | Ibiam | yeah |
19:09 | samsongoddy | Yes that would be nice |
19:09 | Anyone wanna join us | |
19:09 | kaametza | hello all, sorry I'm late |
19:09 | walterbender | I want to get "approval" from SLOB for the workshop today--if we have a quorum |
19:09 | Ibiam | i don't have a system, if we are calling but if we are chatting, I'll definitely be there |
19:10 | walterbender | Ibiam, I think we can do it with a chat |
19:10 | samsongoddy | Yeah that's would be nicer |
19:10 | walterbender | I am traveling again but available |
19:10 | Ibiam | good |
19:10 | samsongoddy | So walterbender, how many people will be coming from SL |
19:10 | tony37 | This is late in the week, do you plan for a time next week? |
19:11 | walterbender | samsongoddy, I still don't know about Claudia |
19:11 | kaametza | samsongoddy, how is the translation going? |
19:11 | walterbender | but maybe Tony? and maybe davelab6 |
19:11 | and me | |
19:11 | and the Port Harcourt group | |
19:12 | kaametza | CanoeBerry, ping |
19:12 | Ibiam | walterbender, have you talked with artemis papert and brian silverman |
19:12 | samsongoddy | Yeah i just received the money! but it was $340 instead of $350 |
19:12 | walterbender | Ibiam, I see them tomorrow night |
19:12 | samsongoddy | what about claudia?? |
19:12 | walterbender | samsongoddy, maybe ClaudiaU will be there... was hoping to catch her here. |
19:12 | Ibiam | okay |
19:12 | samsongoddy | Wow seems cooler then |
19:13 | walterbender | we have been trouble finding a time to meet since I have had a lot of last minute travel |
19:13 | samsongoddy | Everyone in Nigeria is set |
19:13 | davelab6 | hi |
19:13 | walterbender | hi davelab6 |
19:13 | samsongoddy | Hi davelab6, watching youtube videos? |
19:13 | walterbender | we are recruting you for Turtle Art Day Abunja |
19:13 | Ibiam | hello davelab6 |
19:13 | walterbender | Abuja |
19:14 | cannot type today | |
19:14 | kaametza | (just a qucik note that I also said hi all) |
19:14 | walterbender | kaametza, hello... |
19:14 | kaametza | hello walterbender how are u? |
19:14 | samsongoddy | Hello, kaametza |
19:14 | Ibiam | holla kaametza |
19:14 | kaametza | samsongoddy, :D |
19:15 | walterbender | I didn't hear from either ClaudiaU or CanoeBerry about today.. I assume they are going to join us. |
19:15 | samsongoddy | I will be starting the translation project next week |
19:15 | kaametza | Hi Ibiam hope you guys are doing well with the translations plus your own exams |
19:15 | samsongoddy | But i was funded $340 |
19:15 | tony37 | samsongoddy have you looked at lion.activity? |
19:16 | davelab6 | samsongoddy: what youtube videos? |
19:16 | walterbender: haha yes | |
19:16 | Ibiam | yeah, we're trying our best, haven't started translations though |
19:16 | davelab6 | i need to adjust the turtleartday.org CSS for mobile |
19:16 | samsongoddy | yeah i am going to do that this week, tony37. |
19:16 | kaametza | why? any trouble in methodology we can help with? |
19:16 | davelab6 | samsongoddy: so you are short US$10? |
19:16 | samsongoddy | yeah |
19:17 | davelab6 | samsongoddy: sounds like you paid some transfer fees |
19:17 | Ibiam | nope, not at all |
19:17 | samsongoddy | what means i will be recieving $3660 |
19:17 | tony37 | samsongoddy at the moment it doesn't work with sugar only the activities - need help from Chris for Sugar |
19:18 | Ibiam | we just got the funds, so there are some purchases that needs to be made, after that we start |
19:18 | samsongoddy | davelab6, how did it go with the google adsword |
19:19 | davelab6 | samsongoddy: i got it |
19:19 | samsongoddy: but not set it up | |
19:19 | kaametza: hello!!! :) | |
19:19 | kaametza: how are you? | |
19:20 | kaametza: did your house sort out the laptop troubles? :) | |
19:20 | samsongoddy | okay |
19:20 | kaametza | doing good thx davelab6 |
19:20 | davelab6, we are in Colobia visiting my mother :D | |
19:21 | davelab6 | kaametza: nice!! :) |
19:21 | walterbender | always good to visit one's mother :) |
19:21 | kaametza | kind of a vacation for the children |
19:21 | davelab6 | cool cool |
19:21 | walterbender: who has ops on the channel and runs the logging bot? | |
19:21 | Ibiam | yeah |
19:21 | walterbender | davelab6, maybe ignacio? |
19:22 | davelab6 | ignacio: would you be interested to set up the botbot logger? https://botbot.me/request/ |
19:22 | samsongoddy | hi davelab6, did you see my alias problem? |
19:22 | kaametza | davelab6, an all I would also apreciate any voluntary help with the 100 Challenge application... |
19:22 | davelab6 | they have a nice irc guide too |
19:22 | https://botbot.me/irc-guide/ | |
19:23 | kaametza: is there a doc to review? | |
19:23 | kaametza | not yet |
19:23 | walterbender | well... seems like we don't have a quorum for today. |
19:23 | icarito | tony37, maybe I can help with l1on activity what do you need? there is a list of po files in our translation manual |
19:24 | tony37 | the problem is that Sugar does not include the po files |
19:24 | kaametza | But a first Step if for everyone involved to read the rules and guidelines - I added the links to the rules at the Titanpad.com/SLFC |
19:24 | walterbender | I will send an email outlining what I know re Turtle Art Day Abuja, Asuncion, and Montevideo |
19:24 | tony37 | walterbender thanks |
19:25 | walterbender | the other thing I wanted to do today was have an "official" remembrance of Seymour Papert, who died earlier this week. |
19:25 | samsongoddy | you guys should prepare because you all will be doing alot of Nigerian things |
19:26 | like dance and speaking pidgin | |
19:26 | Ibiam | right |
19:26 | walterbender | As I think most of you know, he was one of the founders of OLPC and the inspiration of much of the pedagogy |
19:26 | sverma | Indeed |
19:27 | samsongoddy | RIP i was so sad about the news! |
19:27 | walterbender | and a fun colleague for 30+ years |
19:27 | we used to eat worm tacos together every year on our birthdays | |
19:27 | samsongoddy | All my life was growing up about this work |
19:27 | walterbender | (we shared a birthday week, but since he was born on Feb 29, he only had a birthday every 4 years :) |
19:28 | Ibiam | that's nice |
19:28 | walterbender | for some reason, we were often together in Mexico that week and it was worm season :P |
19:29 | davelab6 | sverma: any news on the vision stuff? :) |
19:30 | sverma | davelab6: I have some of the materials put together, but been traveling with family over the summer, so not yet ready |
19:30 | icarito | tony37 (regarding po files), that's not a problem, check out `msgunfmt` command |
19:30 | tony37 | This uncompiles mo files? |
19:31 | kaametza | CanoeBerry, I would like to propose a Localization project of the "ahorcadito" a very downloaded Activity about children's rights to English and would like to know if there are funds avalilable to do so |
19:31 | icarito | tony37, yes |
19:31 | tony37 | great - that should solve it |
19:31 | kaametza | aka colgadito |
19:33 | walterbender | kaametza, CanoeBerry is not here |
19:34 | kaametza | walterbender, Iḿ hoping he will read the backlog... :D |
19:34 | davelab6 | sverma: sure, all good |
19:34 | sverma: september? :) | |
19:35 | well | |
19:35 | tony laid out some things to discuss | |
19:35 | there are no motions already | |
19:35 | kaametza | any news from election committe about this year election? do we finnally have a verified members list? |
19:35 | davelab6 | the SLOB can pass motions via email if they need to |
19:36 | Ibiam | bye everyone, got to go |
19:36 | Ibiam has quit IRC | |
19:36 | davelab6 | so i suggest walterbender as chair propose a slate of topics for the next 25 mins and we run thru em :) |
19:36 | kaametza: who is election commitee? | |
19:36 | walterbender | davelab6, I ran through my list already |
19:37 | samsongoddy | Samson, Caryl, Sebastian |
19:37 | kaametza | Oficially named are Samson, Caryl and Icarito |
19:37 | D: | |
19:37 | walterbender | we have three opening for this year... |
19:37 | davelab6 | walterbender: haha :) |
19:37 | a | |
19:37 | a financial report can only be done by CanoeBerry | |
19:37 | walterbender | would be good to get an early strt |
19:37 | davelab6 | a report from the Translations Community Manager, needs CJL |
19:37 | walterbender | true |
19:37 | davelab6 | kaametza: very well |
19:38 | kaametza | +1 walterbender |
19:38 | davelab6 | samsongoddy icarito what is the current state of the member list - that google spreadsheet? |
19:38 | kaametza | +1 davelab6 |
19:38 | walterbender | davelab6, is there going to be a sprint this weekend? (Sorry that I will not be available) |
19:38 | icarito | kaametza, no action except accepting new members |
19:38 | walterbender | icarito, what about outreach? |
19:38 | kaametza | thx icarito |
19:38 | davelab6 | walterbender: elih and i are meeting each saturday more or less |
19:38 | walterbender: i was out for HOPE | |
19:39 | elih: are you around tomorrow? | |
19:39 | "providing an update on the status | |
19:39 | of the Yoruba project." | |
19:39 | icarito | we have not contacted the membership or actively sought new membership this year |
19:39 | davelab6 | samsongoddy said he got the 1st payment (minus $10) |
19:39 | "Last meeting we gave ourselves the task to appoint a Financial Manager. We need to discuss how this | |
19:39 | is to be accomplished." | |
19:39 | walterbender: we didnt disucss this? | |
19:40 | walterbender | davelab6, no... |
19:40 | I thought Adam was taking the lead | |
19:40 | but I have not heard from him in this matter | |
19:40 | kaametza | Iḿ sure he is |
19:40 | davelab6 | ok so |
19:40 | mailing list topics to be posted? | |
19:40 | kaametza | it would be nice to hear from him |
19:41 | icarito | davelab6, "that google spreadsheet" is "every member there has ever been" - only a fraction of those replied to a currency survey but it was not used to remove members list |
19:41 | kaametza | I did asked earlier in the meteting about funds availability |
19:41 | ElVerma <ElVerma!~sverma2602:306:ccab:6470:f1ac:d8da:f141:3e9c> has joined #sugar-meeting | |
19:41 | davelab6 | 1. financial report from CanoeBerry 2. translations report from CJL 3. nigeria report from CJL (?) 4. finance minister appointment procedure proposal from CanoeBerry |
19:42 | kaametza: i think without (1) and (2) no one can say anything about your question | |
19:42 | kaametza | +1 davelab6 |
19:42 | davelab6 | icarito: i propose that, since the last meeting passed the motion to ask members for dinero |
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19:42 | kaametza | just one note about (2) |
19:43 | davelab6 | icarito: and i have a large list of everyone who ever mailed a SL mailing list |
19:43 | icarito: and eveyrone who every made a wiki account | |
19:43 | icarito: and the members sheet | |
19:43 | walterbender | maybe a mass email to ask them all to update their member status? |
19:43 | sverma has quit IRC | |
19:43 | kaametza | I just received the initial files for the language Miksito so not sure you should limit the sence to one person only.. translations has been a team and will continue to be |
19:44 | davelab6 | icarito: i will mail people once to ask if they want to be 'members' which means being on a sugarlabs-annouce list |
19:44 | icarito: that way there is no ambiguity that only paying members are members; instead members are defined as people on that mailing list | |
19:44 | kaametza | so it would be more (2) translations report from IAEP |
19:45 | davelab6 | and we can promise not to spam annouce list more than once a month |
19:45 | icarito | it would be good to have a system like that frankly the spreadsheet is klunky |
19:45 | davelab6 | per calendar month |
19:45 | kaametza | walterbender +1 |
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19:45 | davelab6 | icarito: yeah the #1 purpose of the sheet is to email people |
19:46 | kaametza: as you know i am somewhat skeptical of diffusing responsibility to 'teams' and 'committees' :) | |
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19:47 | davelab6 | kaametza: and CJL was appointed translations manager |
19:47 | kaametza | davelab6, icarito I guess this wil all be connected to the membership fee mechanism we need to implement.. |
19:47 | davelab6 | kaametza: but yes i agree any updates to IAEP is great |
19:47 | kaametza: its not a membership fee | |
19:47 | icarito | davelab6, I agree with you, do you wanna be in the election & membership committee to implement that or what do you need? |
19:48 | davelab6 | kaametza: thats what i mean; membership is defined as being on a public (moderated) list, where joining is moderated and emails to the list can only be made by authorized persons |
19:48 | icarito: i dont think i need anything other than to know when we need to do this by | |
19:48 | icarito: im pretty busy wrapping up the GSOC with yash | |
19:48 | icarito: we have 2 weeks left i think | |
19:49 | kaametza | davelab6, no rush lets just draw a time table |
19:49 | it needs to be aligned with the 2016 election cycle | |
19:49 | icarito | davelab6, if you want ping me when you have some time I can help you with infrastructure |
19:50 | kaametza | mayble a SL calendar Activity LD we need |
19:50 | sverma <sverma!~sverma2607:fb90:a640:90cf:ae6d:2d72:b1a5:f2a2> has joined #sugar-meeting | |
19:50 | kaametza | *:D |
19:52 | icarito | regarding timing we're already a bit late |
19:52 | kaametza | also would like to congratulate new gobernment in Perú who has reafirmed the local MinEdu functionaries, we hope to continue providing support for this and many other OX-OLPC countries |
19:53 | icarito | according to https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/[…]_assurance_policy : "In order to ensure that the Sugar Labs Membership list is reflective of the current status of the project and its participants, once a year members will be asked to confirm that they still wish to be a Sugar Labs Member. If this request bounces, or if a request has not been replied to after it has been a) resent, b) checked for a more current email |
19:53 | address, and c) six months have passed, the member will be sent a removal notice with an invitation to reapply." | |
19:55 | kaametza | icarito, davelab6 that means 6 months after the email you guys will be able to make the cleaning to the list |
19:55 | samsongoddy | bye all |
19:55 | kaametza | right? |
19:55 | samsongoddy has quit IRC | |
19:56 | kaametza | thx everybody for todays meeting :D thx walterbender and receive our deep condolensces for the lost of a great mind |
19:57 | have to go now, bye all | |
19:58 | sverma | Bye |
19:59 | tony37 | bye |
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20:01 | walterbender | ttyl |
20:02 | davelab6 | icarito: thanks |
20:02 | kaametza: i think so | |
20:03 | icarito: when is the election actually due to happen? | |
20:03 | icarito: i mean, we need to know who is on the 2017 board by what date? | |
20:03 | icarito: we can work backwards freely from there, i guess | |
20:05 | icarito | davelab6, it should happen in december |
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20:06 | icarito | i need to go, ping me if I can help davelab6 |
20:06 | bye all! | |
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