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11:51 | walterbender | hemant_kasat, hi |
11:51 | hemant_kasat | hi walterbender |
11:53 | pikurasa | hi hemant_kasat, this is devin |
11:53 | hemant_kasat | hi pikurasa |
11:54 | vikram_ | Hello everybody |
11:54 | hemant_kasat | walterbender , pikurasa , did you get the mail about the rhythm ruler implementation ? |
11:54 | lp1 | hi everybody |
11:55 | tony37 <tony37!~tony![]() |
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11:55 | pikurasa | hemant_kasat: I looked through threads this morning and did not see anything from you. Please resend |
11:56 | davelab6 <davelab6!~davelab6![]() |
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11:56 | pikurasa | hemant_kasat: I noticed you made zip of your designs, did you send to Walter? |
11:57 | hemant_kasat | pikurasa , i sent it again |
11:58 | walterbender | I got the zips... |
11:58 | was not exactly clear what I was looking at | |
11:59 | frankly, I would prefer we do all of this work in a git repo | |
11:59 | hemant_kasat | i also have attached the zip file for a rough html rhythm ruler |
11:59 | pikurasa | Yes, and please hemant_kasat use Inkscape |
11:59 | walterbender | the sketches and notes can live in a repo and when code is mature, a PR to master can be made |
11:59 | hemant_kasat, everything should be SVG | |
11:59 | pikurasa | Inkscape creates SVG files that will be easy for everyone to manipulate |
11:59 | walterbender | unless there is a good reason to deviate |
12:00 | hemant_kasat | from now on i will use inkscape |
12:00 | AbrahmAB <AbrahmAB!0e8b7a78![]() |
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12:00 | walterbender | which there rarely is |
12:00 | shall we begin? | |
12:00 | pikurasa | hemant_kasat: yes, please use inkscape |
12:00 | walterbender | #start-meeting |
12:00 | meeting | Meeting started Fri May 27 12:00:17 2016 UTC. The chair is walterbender. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
12:00 | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #endmeeting | |
12:00 | walterbender | hello all |
12:01 | I'd like to start by inviting each of the GSoC interns to update the group on their week (and plans for next week) | |
12:01 | who'd like to start? | |
12:01 | vikram_ | Hello all |
12:01 | I can start first | |
12:01 | walterbender | vikram_, please |
12:02 | vikram_ | Thank you |
12:02 | samtoday | AbrahmAB: hello! |
12:02 | vikram_ | So till the previous week, we were discussing the models and necessary details of the Git Backend Project |
12:02 | This week i started with the coding part | |
12:03 | AbrahmAB | samtoday: hi! |
12:03 | vikram_ | I started writing git functions for offline use first |
12:03 | i have started writing important git functions like create files, create repo, add, status, diff, clone, push, commit history, revert to a commit for local use first | |
12:03 | walterbender: I have sent you the repo link | |
12:03 | samtoday | AbrahmAB: so how did you go this week? What are your feelings? |
12:04 | walterbender | vikram_, any road blocks? |
12:04 | iamutkarshtiwari <iamutkarshtiwari!0e8bee62![]() |
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12:04 | vikram_ | For the offline version, there is no limit to space and memory first |
12:04 | So at present everything is going on well | |
12:04 | iamutkarshtiwari | Hi |
12:04 | hemant_kasat | For this week i completed the designs and searched for the library that can be used to make a ruler for the widget Rhythm Ruler and add another feature like dissection etc. , i found one and i made a rough sketch for the rhythm ruler to be using the library decided. |
12:04 | vikram_ | I have hit a few roadblocks regarding how i am going to save things when we will do it online |
12:05 | But currently everything is going on well | |
12:05 | samtoday | AbrahmAB: What did you spend the most time batteling this week? What did you learn the most about? Gtk+? |
12:05 | sugar3? | |
12:05 | AbrahmAB | samtoday: I have completed the project-list-view code :) |
12:05 | samtoday | AbrahmAB: awsome! |
12:06 | vikram_ | For offline we can normally store each file in a specific repo belonging to a specific activity, i think we need to rethink when we do it for online use |
12:06 | AbrahmAB | yes I was battling for a proper connection. Finally its resolved :D |
12:06 | samtoday | :) I feel you |
12:06 | iamutkarshtiwari | tony37, icarito: Hello everyone |
12:06 | AbrahmAB | samtoday: Now on I would be more efficient working. |
12:06 | samtoday | my neighbour put a password on their netowrk (finally). I'm pretty stuffed for the weekend |
12:06 | AbrahmAB | samtoday: haha |
12:06 | samtoday | na, you got quite a bit done offline |
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12:07 | AbrahmAB | samtoday: I would now rush on to the next part ie Project View and modelling it |
12:07 | tony37 <tony37!~tony![]() |
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12:07 | pikurasa | hemant_kasat: Road blocks will happen, but please communicate daily |
12:08 | vikram_ | I am planning to finish all the git functions by the end of this week, so that the online part can be implemented |
12:08 | pikurasa | hemant_kasat: Walter and I can help. |
12:08 | walterbender | vikram_, +1 thx |
12:08 | vikram_ | walterbender: Okay |
12:08 | hemant_kasat | pikurasa, yes sure |
12:09 | walterbender | hemant_kasat, can you please tell us what the rhythm ruler is supposed to accomplish? |
12:09 | samtoday | AbrahmAB: you are planning to do the project view next week? |
12:09 | vikram_ | walterbender: I saw your mail regarding the migration of activities to github.com/sugarlabs, i think the naming convention should be same for both my project as well the activities. What do you think? It will be less complicated if we have it same |
12:09 | walterbender | vikram_, +1 |
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12:10 | samtoday | AbrahmAB: when are you planning to model things? Eg, making sure that browse downloads get put in the same project as browse? |
12:10 | AbrahmAB_ <AbrahmAB_!0e8b7a78![]() |
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12:10 | vikram_ | I was thinking on the lines of a specific repo for each activity and in it we can have different files according to the usernames/email ids |
12:10 | AbrahmAB_ | samtoday: ping! |
12:11 | samtoday | AbrahmAB_: when are you planning to do the model things? Eg, making sure that browse downloads get put in the same project as the browse instance? |
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12:12 | vikram_ | walterbender: Or probably a different org altogether as samtoday suggested on the other channel |
12:13 | AbrahmAB_ | samtoday: all that could be done in next week |
12:13 | samtoday | AbrahmAB_: so what is the plan for next week looking like? |
12:13 | hemant_kasat | walterbender , i didn't get you |
12:14 | walterbender | hemant_kasat, why are you building a rhythm ruler? |
12:14 | what will it be used for? | |
12:14 | samtoday | AbrahmAB_: monday; project view details (desciption, buddies list, title, etc) |
12:14 | AbrahmAB_ | *Project-view * model for project (major time) |
12:14 | samtoday: yes monday UI part will be over :) | |
12:14 | walterbender | vikram_, use an abstraction because the naming scheme is likely to change :P |
12:15 | samtoday | AbrahmAB_: ok great. How do you feel about the UI stuff btw? All the stuff in sugar3 has terrible documentation. |
12:16 | AbrahmAB_ | samtoday: tue, I will work on Object-Chooser view (already implemented in my prototype :D just a few more changes) |
12:16 | samtoday | AbrahmAB_: maybe as a plan, you can take the ui mockup that you have and write the names of the widgets on top of them all |
12:16 | vikram_ | walterbender: Okay fine, an abstraction sounds better in this case, as it will be independent of the naming scheme |
12:16 | samtoday | AbrahmAB_: awsome! |
12:16 | hemant_kasat | walterbender, with rhythm ruler we will be able to decide the duration of each beat compare to a whole note |
12:17 | AbrahmAB_ | samtoday: RE: docs, yes I will love to work on improving docs for SL in my free time |
12:17 | samtoday | you don't have to, you say you will do everything in your free time :) |
12:17 | AbrahmAB_ | hehehe.. I can on weekends ;) |
12:17 | samtoday | but if you find something interesting always feel free to send a patch however small |
12:18 | walterbender | hemant_kasat, but how will it be used? |
12:18 | AbrahmAB_ | samtoday: I would rather spend tomorrow working on my prev PRs. what do you feel? |
12:19 | samtoday | yep, that's a nice idea |
12:19 | walterbender | we should make sure our other interns give updates |
12:19 | samtoday | esp. https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar/pull/681 - you'll probably reuse that popup for your project view |
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12:19 | AbrahmAB_ | samtoday: I will think over it |
12:20 | walterbender | Jeremie? Yash? |
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12:20 | walterbender | Utkarsh? |
12:20 | AbrahmAB_ | samtoday: Monday morning I will send you a plan for the whole week. |
12:20 | hemant_kasat | walterbender , we will a have ruler representing a whole note first and then we can dissect it (say in four ) then it will represent 4 different beats having note value each 4 and then we can go on further recurssively |
12:20 | AbrahmAB_ | a bit more detailed if possible |
12:20 | samtoday | yep. Let's just make it our goal before monday to annotate mockup with the widget class names you will use |
12:20 | it should be quick | |
12:20 | and mainly so I can give you any pointers if you need it | |
12:21 | so that you work efficiently | |
12:21 | walterbender | hemant_kasat, and... what will the output of widget? |
12:21 | AbrahmAB_ | samtoday: grading! |
12:21 | samtoday | ??? |
12:21 | walterbender | AbrahmAB_, pointers... not points :) |
12:22 | AbrahmAB_ | sorry, my bad |
12:22 | samtoday | that's fine |
12:22 | davelab6 | hhahaha |
12:22 | walterbender | school has ruined these kids :) |
12:22 | samtoday | :) |
12:22 | davelab6 | no "OUT OF 10"???? |
12:23 | AbrahmAB_ | SL is working on improving schools :) |
12:23 | hemant_kasat | walterbender , when we play what we have made after all dissection we can hear beats each with different time interval according to their note value |
12:23 | AbrahmAB_ | a better learning |
12:23 | walterbender | AbrahmAB_, we use portfolio assessment... |
12:23 | samtoday | AbrahmAB_: also, how can I try and better mentor you? Has there been something that I could be more he;pful with? |
12:23 | walterbender | what you do, not what you "know" :) |
12:23 | hemant_kasat, but we also need to make the output of the ruler help with coding... | |
12:24 | mohayon <mohayon!~mohayon![]() |
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12:24 | AbrahmAB_ | samtoday: I am getting enough attention from you. I like it :) |
12:24 | walterbender | so it should output a stack of blocks defining a rhythm |
12:24 | hemant_kasat, I was assuming a stack of rhythm blocks that can be used in the matrix | |
12:24 | yagarwal <yagarwal!~smuxi![]() |
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12:24 | walterbender | pikurasa, ^^ |
12:25 | samtoday | AbrahmAB_: thx. Never be afraid to swim against the power structure and tell me when I'm being shit though :) ttyl |
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12:25 | yagarwal | Hi, sorry I'm late |
12:25 | is the meeting still going on? | |
12:25 | mohayon | yes |
12:25 | elih | yes, hey Yash :) |
12:26 | pikurasa | walterbender: that is right. Hemant did put something like that in his mock-up, but maybe didn't send. |
12:26 | walterbender | yagarwal, everyone is giving updates of their week |
12:26 | hemant_kasat | i thought i will first make a functioning ruler which dissect according to the input , then we can code for the stack of the blocks |
12:26 | walterbender | yagarwal, wanna fill us in? |
12:26 | pikurasa | hemant_kasat: please send everyone a link to your designs now please. (As OwnCloud admin, you can do this!) |
12:27 | Then we can all look at your work, hemant_kasat | |
12:28 | hemant_kasat | waltebender , pikurasa here is the link https://ulibarri.website/owncl[…]Designs-by-Hemant |
12:28 | yagarwal | Hey Eli, I've completed the Character Map, pushing it to the branch now |
12:29 | walterbender | hemant_kasat, that link requires a login |
12:29 | lp1 | We don't have public access to the owncloud files, if they are meant for everyone :x |
12:29 | walterbender | this is why I would prefer to move to github |
12:30 | pikurasa | (hemant_kasat choose "share link") |
12:30 | hemant_kasat | walterbender , https://ulibarri.website/owncl[…]s/zdwulOHp68IQxgK , does it also requires login |
12:30 | mohayon | It's working |
12:31 | walterbender | it is still painful in that I have to download everything to look at it. |
12:31 | and I cannot comment in line | |
12:32 | hemant_kasat | i will put it on github , where should i put it ?? |
12:32 | walterbender | hemant_kasat, maybe you and I can discuss after the meeting |
12:32 | yagarwal | here is my work for the week, https://github.com/sugarlabs/e[…]vity/tree/yash-v0 |
12:33 | walterbender | yagarwal, can you give a quick summary of the highlights/ |
12:33 | pikurasa | Also hemant_kasat, reply to email about what times are good for you to meet weekly online with me and walter. |
12:34 | yagarwal | sure, I have made a general class for making character Map for a given font |
12:34 | hemant_kasat | pikurasa , i mailed it but it i think it didn't get delivered because of the zip files attached |
12:34 | elih | yagarwal: I just saw the button demo, nice: https://github.com/sugarlabs/e[…]0/button_demo.gif |
12:34 | walterbender | lp1, mohayon Is Jeremie here? |
12:34 | lp1 | Well it's me :) |
12:34 | walterbender | oh... |
12:34 | thought lp1 was lionel :P | |
12:35 | davelab6 | hehehe |
12:35 | lp1 | walterbender Oh no, I had to change my nickname because mine was taken :) |
12:35 | walterbender | lp1, please tell us about your week |
12:35 | yagarwal | you can see the README.md file on the repo for more details, I've also added some screen casts over there |
12:35 | davelab6 | yagarwal: great gid |
12:35 | hemant_kasat | walterbender , pikurasa , i am fine with 4pm ( utc ) to 8 pm ( utc). |
12:35 | davelab6 | yagarwal: blog post please :D |
12:35 | gid? gif! | |
12:35 | lp1 | walterbender so, this week I managed to make an Android launcher with Sugarizer, I have made two Cordova plugins to do so, one who enables a cordova application as a launcher and another one who uses a custom Android activity to hide the native Android notification bar so the user really isn' t inside the android environment anymore but fully in the sugar environment. And next week I'm going to work to |
12:35 | patch every sugar activity in order to make everything work flaswlessly so I can start working on Android applications integration asap I've got a repository for SugarizerOS : https://github.com/lupin012345/SugarizerOS, and two for the plugins : https://github.com/lupin012345[…]a-plugin-launcher, https://github.com/lupin012345[…]lugin-sugarizeros . | |
12:36 | walterbender | lp1, would love you to look at musicblocks app |
12:36 | see if you can figure out why the synth is not working on Android | |
12:37 | we should inlude it in the sugarizer distribution in anycase | |
12:37 | lp1 | walterbender Sure :) ! I'm going to review every sugarizer app to be sure that everything is working 100%. I'm going to look at it |
12:37 | walterbender | pikurasa, 11am to 3pm for us |
12:37 | mohayon | lp1 did a great work using cordova plugins to enable the app to act as a launcher. He tried several ways by scripting. The way he found will be easier to maintain |
12:38 | walterbender | mohayon, sounds like a win |
12:38 | mohayon | That was a big question for us because we would not modify the stack |
12:39 | lp1 | I tried using hooks on the cordova builds with shell scripts at first but it's not very clean, cordova plugins are pretty easy to use and deploy :) |
12:39 | yagarwal | davelab6: I'll make the blog post now :) |
12:40 | pikurasa | hemant_kasat: 4pm UTC on weds? |
12:40 | mohayon | Anything to add lp1 ? |
12:40 | hemant_kasat | pikurasa , weds ?? |
12:41 | pikurasa | weds = Wednesday |
12:41 | walterbender | pikurasa, sorry... my calc. was off... it is noon to 4 for us |
12:42 | 4pm UTC on wed. is noon for us | |
12:42 | hemant_kasat | pikurasa , oh ok!! , yes that is fine with me |
12:42 | pikurasa | walterbender: sure that is fine |
12:42 | lp1 | mohayon Well I'm doing a blog post right now and I'm going to write about the project, show some screens and maybe a video of it if it can be more explicit :) |
12:42 | walterbender | that will mostly work for me too |
12:42 | mohayon | Great |
12:43 | walterbender | is Utkarsh here? |
12:43 | tony_ | I think he is not online |
12:44 | walterbender | tony_, do you have any update for him? |
12:44 | tony_ | Yes. We have been meeting almost daily. His project consists of a number of separate features. He is having trouble managing the work flow |
12:44 | davelab6 | yagarwal: will need to copy the gif to gh-pages |
12:44 | walterbender | tony_, maybe you can ask him (1) to let us know if he will be missing the meeting and (2) send an update to the list before the meeting in the case of (1)? |
12:45 | davelab6 | yagarwal: is your code cleaned up now and ready for master? |
12:45 | tony_ | The primary focus has been integrating richa sehgal's fiddler from GSOC15 |
12:45 | walterbender | tony_, anything we can help with re workflow? |
12:45 | tony_ | However, he took up a number of 'tickets' as well. One feature is the 'screenshot' providing an alert to allow it to be renamed without switching to the Journal |
12:46 | This is stalled because someone wants him to change to a different alert format. | |
12:46 | davelab6 | someone! :) |
12:46 | yagarwal | davelab6: master included Gonzalo's code to list all fonts, I think once I build the font manager part of the activity then we should merge them |
12:46 | davelab6 | yagarwal: ok |
12:47 | yagarwal: however, this means we cant link to commits in your branch as it will be removed | |
12:47 | tony_ | He also is working on a 'Download' progress capability in Browse. However, this seems redundant with the existing alert. This needs to be sorted. |
12:47 | Once this is cleared away, he will start on the 'save as' feature. However, he has exams and will probably not be active until Jan 7. | |
12:48 | yagarwal | davelab6: I'll add the gifs the gh-pages branch, we can use those for the blog posts, but commits will be a problem |
12:48 | maybe we can update that later, when we merge the branch | |
12:48 | walterbender | tony_, I assume you mean Jun 7 :P |
12:49 | tony_ | Yes, sorry |
12:50 | walterbender | I think we have heard from all the students. |
12:50 | do any of the mentors want to chime in? | |
12:50 | any overarching concerns? | |
12:50 | anything we can do at the org. level to help? | |
12:51 | tony_ | My concern based on recent experience is that the advise that gsoc candidates start by fixing tickets is not wise |
12:51 | Unfortuately they seem not to be well triaged. So one candidate worked on a ticket seven years old which had not been acted on. | |
12:52 | walterbender | tony_, maybe we need a triage session... |
12:52 | tony_ | I think so. It takes some experience to recognize a ticket that is a simple bug fix from one that involves man-months of work |
12:55 | walterbender | tony_, feel free to lean on sugar-devel |
12:55 | davelab6 | yagarwal: maybe better to work on master in a directory |
12:56 | yagarwal: or to get your code integrated with gonzalos in a simple way | |
12:56 | yagarwal: like just add a toolbar button that takes you to a single UFO that is packaged in the activity | |
12:57 | yagarwal: i think it would be good to spend the next week on packaging, travis, etc | |
12:57 | yagarwal: setting up unit tests | |
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12:58 | yagarwal | davelab6: uum, I'll be back on 5th, we discussed that, after that I start on packaging |
12:58 | davelab6 | yagarwal: ah yes right |
12:58 | walterbender | we should wrap up the official meeting |
12:58 | davelab6 | yagarwal: soory |
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12:58 | walterbender | hemant_kasat, can you please stick around? |
12:58 | davelab6 | walterbender: yagarwal is going away next week |
12:58 | walterbender | thanks eveyone for the updates |
12:58 | lots of progress | |
12:58 | davelab6 | walterbender: but has made good progress and will make up the time before the mid term evaluation |
12:59 | walterbender | davelab6, yes... seems like lots of progress |
12:59 | hemant_kasat | walterbender , yes |
12:59 | walterbender | #end-meeting |
12:59 | meeting | Meeting ended Fri May 27 12:59:31 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. (v 0.1.4) |
12:59 | Minutes: http://meeting.sugarlabs.org/s[…]-27T12:00:17.html | |
12:59 | davelab6 | tony37: we can triage stuff as we move it to github |
12:59 | meeting | Log: http://meeting.sugarlabs.org/s[…]16-05-27T12:00:17 |
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13:00 | yagarwal | davelab6: what should I do first? making the editing interface or the packaging |
13:01 | pikurasa | I need to go. I have meeting with bank. Please update me on your meeting walterbender and hemant_kasat. Thank you! |
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13:04 | davelab6 | walterbender: is https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/[…]ent_Team/Contacts up to date? |
13:05 | yagarwal: i think packaging | |
13:05 | elih: thoughts? | |
13:05 | yagarwal: because PROCESS is more important than immediate outcomes | |
13:05 | yagarwal: because it will pay dividends over the summer | |
13:05 | yagarwal | davelab6: ok, then I'll start with that :) |
13:05 | elih | packaging sounds good so we can get a solid master branch working. |
13:05 | davelab6 | yagarwal: you made great progress on the char viewer |
13:06 | yagarwal: lets assume that all the other editor features are there | |
13:06 | yagarwal: and work on the process as if all core coding was complete | |
13:06 | yagarwal: what would you need in this case? | |
13:06 | yagarwal: unit tests | |
13:06 | yagarwal: travis running them | |
13:06 | yagarwal: packaging via travis too | |
13:06 | setup.py dist_co | |
13:06 | dist_xo | |
13:06 | etc | |
13:07 | ok i gotta run to office | |
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13:07 | yagarwal | davelab6: thanks, bye :) |
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13:30 | iamutkrashtiwari | Hi |
13:31 | Apologies. My internet unfortunately went during the meeting :( | |
13:33 | walterbender | iamutkrashtiwari, any updates? |
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