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#sugar-meeting, 2016-05-15

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04:11 davelab6 satellit_e: would you be willing to upload to the wiki directly, and release via github, going forwards?
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04:41 satellit_e davelab6  if I am shown how to do it
04:42 I do have access to the wiki now for uploading files to tgilliard
04:42 in people
04:42 plus normal media-wiki editing
04:43 remember I am mainly a non-programming tester and wiki page maintainer
04:44 old G1-G1 volunteer (73 yrs) : (
04:45 I am testing sugar in Ubuntu 16. Mate on rpi3 atm....
04:46 armhf
04:49 off to bed...afk
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12:58 satellit davilab6: here are some links I use to distribute soas  https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/[…]/Virtual_machines
12:59 I have been waiting until f23-24 build to continue
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14:08 davelab6 hi yagarwal and elih
14:09 yagarwal Hi Dave and Eli
14:09 davelab6 how are you?
14:12 elih Hey all!
14:12 yagarwal I'm fine, completed your reading list except the open type font part
14:12 regarding defconQt, there is no documentation
14:13 if you build the sphinx docs, it just shows you a bunch of empty links
14:13 so how should I go about that?
14:15 davelab6 read the src :)
14:16 we can set up a meeting with adrien
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14:16 davelab6 the author
14:16 and he can answer any specific questions you have
14:17 potentially you could write stub docs for it :)
14:17 hi cjl
14:18 yagarwal Since yesterday I am looking into how to start writing a sugar activity, earlier I was trying to figure it out by just reading the activity codes, then found this http://en.flossmanuals.net/mak[…]-sugar-activities
14:19 am done this about 40% of it, will finish it today and try making the glyph picker(part 1 of the 3 main ones) you mentioned in the blog post
14:19 davelab6 ok!!
14:19 wow awesome
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14:21 yagarwal davelab6: also should I post our daily work reports(as mentioned in your mail) on our jekyll blog only
14:29 davelab6 yagarwal: up to you :) email to the thread and a link to http://www.mail-archive.com/su[…]sts.sugarlabs.org could work too
14:29 but yeah maybe blog is best
14:29 then anyone who gets the editor will get the blog
14:30 yagarwal ok, I'll update the blog
14:34 regarding the work to be done for the GSoC community bonding period, will be alright if I don't do any bug fixes and just focus on my project. I went through this https://bugs.sugarlabs.org/que[…]words=~sugar-love, can't seem to find any doable one's for me
14:34 davelab6 yagarwal: awesome
14:35 yagarwal or if you can suggest any :)
14:37 davelab6 yagarwal: i guess my immediate request is to reply to the list re: the email
14:37 to the eval q's :)
14:37 going over the list of things
14:37 http://www.mail-archive.com/su[…]org/msg41478.html
14:37 - Becoming familiar with the community practices and processes. (This often
14:37 involves a mix of observation and participation.)
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14:37 davelab6 yagarwal: i think you are good there
14:37 hi inkyfingers!
14:38 - Active posting on Mailing Lists / IRC / etc
14:38 yagarwal: i think you are good there :)
14:38 - Setting up their development environment.
14:38 yagarwal: you have that set up with osbuild?
14:38 inkyfingers hi Dave :)
14:38 yagarwal davelab6: yes
14:38 davelab6 davelab6: which instructions did you use for that/
14:39 - Small (or large) patches/bug fixes. (These do not need to be directly
14:39 related to the GSoC project.)
14:39 yagarwal davelab6: this one https://developer.sugarlabs.or[…]vironment.md.html
14:40 davelab6 yagarwal: cool, so maybe you could make a blog post about which resources you've read, like that FLOSSManuals one and this one :)
14:40 - Small (or large) patches/bug fixes. (These do not need to be directly
14:40 related to the GSoC project.)
14:40 yagarwal: for this, perhaps you could do a small improvement to the existing editor
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14:42 davelab6 yagarwal: for example, make the "quick brown fox" text editable
14:42 yagarwal: or, the stars button on the left seems buggy
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14:43 davelab6 yagarwal: when i click the star, it doesn't stay clicked
14:43 yagarwal: can you reproduce that bug?
14:44 yagarwal davelab6: yes they are, the selections are fixed. I saw that a few days ago, while playing around with sugar
14:44 davelab6 yagarwal: ok
14:44 there is also
14:44 - Reporting or replicating bugs.
14:44 so, when you see something broken
14:44 file an issue :)
14:45 would you like to do that now?
14:45 - Reading (and updating!) documentation they will need to understand to
14:45 complete their project.
14:45 yagarwal: you've done this although not blogged anything about what you learned
14:45 - Working with the mentors and other org members on refining their project
14:45 plan. This might include finalizing deadlines and milestones, adding more
14:45 detail, figuring out potential issues, etc.
14:45 yagarwal: you did one round of this
14:46 yagarwal: i guess we'll need another one at the end of this wek
14:49 yagarwal davelab6: ok, I will make a blog post for what all I have read, and file an issue regarding the font-editor. I'll do this in an hour, have to go for dinner now. Will be back in an hour.
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15:16 davelab6 hmm, https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/MediaWiki:Topbar doesnt exist
15:16 does anyone know how to edit the blue 'top bar' in the wiki?
15:21 walterbender: what resources are important outside the wiki (eg, sugar stuff on FLOSSmanuals)
15:22 avni: https://github.com/github/pages-gem
15:31 walterbender: i put a few more comments on https://github.com/sugarlabs/s[…]ocs/pull/83/files
15:31 walterbender: please could you also check and merge https://github.com/sugarlabs/s[…]ocs/pull/82/files ? :)
15:44 inkyfingers davelab6: Does this answer you top-bar question? https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki[…]LocalSettings.php
15:58 cjl inkyfingers: No the place to edit the top bar is http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/MediaWiki:Sitenotice
15:59 davelab6: Does my link answer your question?
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16:08 satellit what happened to the capcha when uploading external links to the wiki? no box with numbers appears.
16:09 davelab6 satellit: ill try to reproduce now
16:09 satellit thanks
16:09 davelab6 cjl: yes that is perfect
16:11 satellit I found it on bottom left of page   not centered
16:13 davelab6 satellit: sorry, what is there?
16:13 satellit over what links here  captcha window
16:13 davelab6 hmm i didnt get a captcha
16:14 https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/ind[…]98532&oldid=97902
16:15 satellit captcha takes numbers but not enter to set it off
16:17 davelab6 avni: https://github.com/avni/www-sugarlabs/pull/1 :)
16:18 satellit: sorry i didnt understand
16:18 satellit now it worked (captcha)
16:18 davelab6 satellit: ok cool :D
16:20 avni davelab6: merged https://github.com/avni/www-sugarlabs/pull/1
16:21 davelab6 avni: woop
16:23 satellit: just saw your messages in http://meeting.sugarlabs.org/s[…]eeting/2016-05-15
16:23 satellit: do you see how to upload files to the wiki now? :)
16:23 satellit: directly
16:23 satellit: instead of using people.sl.o
16:24 satellit no I do not know how to reference them in wiki
16:24 davelab6 avni: https://github.com/avni/www-sugarlabs/pull/2 :)
16:25 satellit: on the sidebar there is a link "Upload file"
16:25 satellit: are any files you upload over 100Mb?
16:26 satellit yes my virtualbox builds for soas
16:26 davelab6 satellit: okay cool
16:26 satellit: i dont see naything from 2016 in http://people.sugarlabs.org/tgilliard/ ?
16:27 satellit like this one scp -v Trisquel3.zip "Tgillard@sunjammer.sugarlabs.org:/home/Tgi​llard/public_html/Trisquel3.zip"
16:27 davelab6 that appears to be from  2011-01-05 ?
16:27 satellit now my name is tgilliard  cap T is changed
16:27 just an example
16:27 davelab6 satellit: there is only a lowercase on http://people.sugarlabs.org/
16:28 satellit so I vound out
16:28 davelab6 satellit: do you have any 2016 examples? :)
16:28 satellit had to edit all links on wiki
16:28 davelab6 satellit: i think making these VM images is great
16:28 satellit no waiting for f24 soas to finish
16:28 davelab6 satellit: but i think they could be better placed than in http://people.sugarlabs.org/tg[…]omethingsomething
16:31 satellit here are some older ones https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/[…]/Virtual_machines
16:31 https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/[…]#Trisquel-Sugar_6.01
16:32 davelab6 satellit: what i mean is
16:32 on that page there is a link to http://people.sugarlabs.org/tg[…]_64-22_Beta-1.ova
16:33 i think it would be better to have it be like
16:33 http://vm.sugarlabs.org/Fedora[…]_64-22_Beta-1.ova
16:34 satellit do I have upload access to such a page? and how do I make a corrections to all of the links
16:35 can you do a link or redirect for them?
16:36 sounds like a lot of work for someone
16:38 davelab6 hehe ok
16:38 https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit
16:38 it seems like you are doing a great job with https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit :)
16:38 i think your upload access could actually be the same
16:39 satellit also older files http://download.sugarlabs.org/soas/
16:39 davelab6 and the systems can just make vm.sugarlabs.org => http://people.sugarlabs.org/tgilliard
16:39 ahhh http://download.sugarlabs.org/soas/!!!
16:39 thats what im talking about :D
16:39 why did http://download.sugarlabs.org/soas/ stop being used?
16:39 satellit in archive on top bar
16:40 old files I have to do a MV command from tgilliard
16:40 davelab6 "in archive on top bar" <-- sorry, i didnt understand this
16:40 https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit is very long
16:41 satellit: would you have time today to clean it up and remove anything that isnt current info?
16:41 satellit only access is from item on topbar  archive
16:41 It will take weeks to do
16:42 seems unnecessary some how...will try to edit out early files when I can..
16:42 davelab6 satellit: https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/ind[…]98534&oldid=96829
16:42 ive marked it as for graduation
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16:44 satellit this is a huge job for what you are requesting  6+ yrs of items in sck
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16:44 davelab6 satellit: but almost all of that stuff is now stale, right?
16:45 satellit no it is not   some info like the tutorial I thin are essential
16:45 davelab6 satellit: sure, "almost" all :) which tutorial?
16:45 satellit https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/ind[…]d=96829#Tutorials
16:46 look at this before asking all of this
16:46 https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/[…]ion_Kit#Tutorials
16:47 I am a 73 yr old volunteer who has used sugar since 1st G1 G1
16:49 age of a page does not determine stale ness
16:50 I resent the graduation tag you added to the main page
16:51 davelab6 satellit: please remove it then :)
16:51 satellit I am not sure I can
16:51 davelab6 satellit: why not?
16:51 :)
16:51 satellit wiki editing privileges
16:52 davelab6 satellit: i am confused; you have a long history of editing the page
16:53 satellit: what exact error are you getting?
16:56 satellit I edited the graduation tag out and put in a new statement about removing older links
17:02 davelab6 satellit: thanks!
17:02 walterbender: what is http://download.sugarlabs.org/activities2/ ?
17:05 is anything in http://download.sugarlabs.org/ current?
17:06 satellit: i see https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/ind[…]st&action=history is also maintained by you'
17:06 satellit images and soas are ones I need to look at
17:06 yes
17:06 with quidam's help
17:06 nice free sugar
17:08 davelab6  I ave been trying to document all versions of sugar that are used
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17:08 satellit the Ubuntu sugar is quite good also
17:08 davelab6 satellit: in the SCK page?
17:09 satellit https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Ubuntu
17:09 yagarwal davelab6: should I report the issue over here https://github.com/godiard/fav[…]te-fonts-activity ?
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17:09 davelab6 yagarwal: no, we are the owners of the project
17:09 yagarwal: we should report an issue
17:10 satellit https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/[…]_Complete_Listing
17:10 davelab6 yagarwal: make a pull request that closes the issue
17:10 satellit: got it
17:10 satellit needs some updating but quite complete
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17:12 cjl davelab6: You have folks like satellit and myself who are G1G1D1 (Give One, Get One, Day One) participants who have a different perspective on the history of OLPC and Sugar Labs.
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17:15 satellit sck was designed for a sneakernet (off the net) index to build your own DVD or USB with wanted content
17:16 https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/[…]ur_own_custom_DVD
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17:21 quidam I just built 108.1 packages for trisquel
17:21 I'll do a quick test with them and push to the repos
17:22 satellit great
17:22 quidam (after food)
17:22 satellit : ) great idea
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17:23 inkyfingers What can we do about top link on Wiki Sidebar "Downloads"
17:23 Leads to https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/[…]oads/Landing_page
17:23 It is not the "Download button" that takes you to the Download ...
17:24 I did not find it in less than 5 clicks, and I thought I knew where it was :)
17:24 satellit I always thought that step was unnecessary
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17:47 satellit-37ea this is f24 everything netinstall of sugar-desktop
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17:52 satellit afk
17:53 davelab6 thanks for helping today satellit :)
17:54 satellit I just loaded Ubuntu Mate on my raspberry pi3 and installed sugar 0.106 with symantic
17:54 yw
17:54 lunch
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18:35 satellit captcha error still happening
18:37 have to click on repeat until it appears somewhere on the page
18:38 https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/[…]Captcha_error.png
18:38 this one worked - 5th repeat of save page
18:39 this one was first that did not work*
18:59 avni Framework/files for profiles page is committed and merged (jquery accordion, etc..) https://github.com/sugarlabs/w[…]sugarlabs/pull/45, https://www.sugarlabs.org/en_US/profiles/
18:59 inkyfingers Ubuntu Mate on my raspberry pi3 and installed sugar 0.106 with symantic <<-- how?
18:59 Satellit: How did you do that?
18:59 How do we get this sort of up-to-date narrative to New-Sugar-Users?
19:00 avni elih is going to continue adding data to profiles.md, more users and user data; thanks davelab6 for the help today.
19:02 satellit inkyfingers  the link is https://ubuntu-mate.org/download/ go to https://ubuntu-mate.org/download/#xenial
19:03 choose rpi2-3 and d/l image then do a extract and write it to your class 12 miniSD
19:04 I used a 32 GB
19:04 then install file installer symantic search for sugar
19:05 got 0.106
19:05 will document in skc soon   still testing
19:06 no jabber or irc that work but browse works
19:08 I got a CanaKit for 32 GB edition (rpi3) about <$100
19:08 need HDMI monitor to enjoy it
19:09 plus usb mouse and keyboard....wireless works fine in rpi3
19:10 class 10*
19:13 inkyfingers satellit: thanks for sharing :)
19:13 satellit yw  enjoy
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19:14 inkyfingers satellit: will document in skc soon <<-- it will be 'lost' there.
19:14 satellit where should it go?
19:15 inkyfingers We need a better way to share quality material.
19:15 satellit I have screenshots
19:15 I am open to ideas
19:15 inkyfingers Dave will say Github!
19:16 satellit I would add a listing to community distributions page normally
19:16 inn skc
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19:18 satellit coffee
19:24 noemu reading through the wiki, just saw that i'm not on the public member list. how can i be added? i applied for membership in december and it was approved
19:24 (this is mariah)
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19:52 cjl noemu: Contact adam holt
19:52 inkyfingers noemu: mariah, please follow up.
19:52 cjl He is going over member list.
19:53 icarito can you help noemu ?
19:53 Anyone here speak a second language?
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19:59 inkyfingers que est-ce que ce est
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20:07 satellit https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/[…]ted_distributions
20:07 added Ubuntu on rpi3 page
20:07 sugar
20:19 icarito noemu, sorry about that, just emailed samson who processed request and missed to add you, thanks cjl
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20:35 cjl icarito: Thanks
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21:22 davelab6 cjl: awesome news on the fedora stuff :)
21:24 cjl davelab6yes, have folks like Peter around is awesome.
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