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21:51 | vikram_ | Hello walterbender , how are you? |
21:52 | walterbender | vikram_, hi |
21:52 | I guess tymon will be a few minutes late | |
21:52 | how are you? | |
21:53 | vikram_ | I am good, semester just ended. Had Project deadlines till three days ago |
21:53 | Ya, lets wait for him | |
21:53 | I just saw his mail | |
21:56 | walterbender | there has been some discussion on the lists about the merit of git vs subversion or some other backend |
21:56 | have you seen it? | |
21:57 | vikram_ | No i have not |
21:57 | walterbender: Can you send me the link? | |
21:58 | What list? I am subscribed to sugarlabs mailing list | |
22:00 | walterbender | looks |
22:02 | I am guess sugar-devel | |
22:02 | haven't found the thread yet | |
22:02 | it basically was an argument that git uses too much storage | |
22:03 | which is a problem if we are not using it in the cloud | |
22:05 | but if we assume a school server, then it is less an issue | |
22:05 | vikram_ | No but we will be using github |
22:05 | Ya we need local storage also if there is no internet connection | |
22:06 | So what do you suggest? | |
22:07 | walterbender | vikram_, Let's build the github version first, with Music Blocks/ Turtle Blocks in mind |
22:07 | then we can try to generalize to a local server and any activity | |
22:07 | vikram_ | Yeah that seems to be the right way to do it |
22:11 | walterbender | we should mock up what the UX will be like |
22:12 | vikram_ | Do you have any suggestion/ideas that i can work upon? |
22:13 | walterbender | I think we auto save after N changes and every time we hit RUN |
22:13 | and buttons to fork and revert | |
22:14 | and a way to add commit messages :) | |
22:14 | vikram_ | Yeah i was thinking of same thing, but do we have to automatically commit it |
22:14 | As in we should give the user a button to just click and commit it | |
22:15 | Like how git works and not an automatic thing... This can make things messy | |
22:17 | walterbender | we have a button for save/download in the UI right now |
22:18 | maybe that becomes a panel with commit/revert/fork/download | |
22:18 | and a place to type in a commit message | |
22:18 | vikram_ | Yes that can be done. We can also do something for the commit history |
22:18 | walterbender | yes |
22:19 | TymonRR <TymonRR!~anonymous![]() |
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22:19 | vikram_ | We can have a button in turtle JS to hide and reveal it |
22:19 | Hello TymonRR | |
22:19 | walterbender | vikram_, +1 |
22:19 | TymonRR, I will grab you a link for the backlog | |
22:19 | TymonRR | hi |
22:19 | sorry that I am lat | |
22:20 | I had unexpected meeting | |
22:20 | walterbender, thanks | |
22:20 | walterbender | http://meeting.sugarlabs.org/s[…]eeting/2016-05-03 |
22:20 | vikram_ | Never a problem |
22:20 | walterbender | TymonRR, we are discussing a first pass implementation for Turtle |
22:21 | and then generalizing from what we learn. | |
22:21 | vikram_, on the backend, we should have one master git account for all the users/projects | |
22:21 | TymonRR | Ok, give me few minutes to read the log |
22:21 | walterbender | and come up with some sort of name space |
22:23 | vikram_ | Yes |
22:23 | You mentioned it once | |
22:23 | It will also help in anonymity | |
22:23 | walterbender | +1 |
22:24 | it is the basic design that tch and I came up with a few years back... time to try it :) | |
22:24 | TymonRR | yes, I agree :) |
22:24 | vikram_ | Okay |
22:25 | So as i mentioned in the proposal, the backend will be made up in python | |
22:26 | and to bind it to web activities like Turtle JS | |
22:26 | Something like Flask? DJango can be used | |
22:26 | *Flask/Django | |
22:27 | walterbender | vikram_, I think we want to have a server/service that the J activities talk to |
22:27 | I am agnostic beyond that | |
22:27 | ^J^JS | |
22:27 | vikram_ | Yeah JS activities can talk with Flask |
22:27 | walterbender | the Python activities can use the backend directly |
22:28 | vikram_ | Do you have any suggestions? |
22:28 | I am sorry i did not get you | |
22:28 | walterbender | nothing specific. I am open to suggestions |
22:28 | vikram_, the backend in Python should be used directly by Python activities | |
22:29 | and through a server for JS activities | |
22:29 | I think we agree on this | |
22:29 | vikram_ | Yes, that is necessary |
22:29 | TymonRR | I think we don't have to use Django, we need server side application, which will get messages from activities |
22:30 | vikram_ | Ya messages in form of XML using ajax perhaps |
22:31 | So what all do you need me to do before the coding starts, i.e., 23rd may | |
22:31 | 1. I need to come up with a UI | |
22:32 | 2. Need to look up web services, do more research | |
22:32 | walterbender | and maybe post something to the community, who will be very opinionated :P |
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22:33 | walterbender | oops. we lost tymon |
22:33 | vikram_ | Will he be back? |
22:33 | walterbender | I am guessing it was just his connection |
22:33 | vikram_ | How do you want me to let the community know? |
22:34 | Probably | |
22:34 | walterbender | an email to sugar-devel? |
22:34 | or a blog post | |
22:34 | vikram_ | And also the library, which one do you think i should use |
22:34 | I can do those | |
22:36 | walterbender | I think FLASK works, but I don't have a strong opinion. I think Tymon seems to have more of an opinion |
22:36 | some maybe sound him out | |
22:36 | we can continue asynchronously by email in the short term | |
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22:37 | walterbender | since he seems to be having connection issues :) |
22:37 | we should also find a regular time for the three of us to chat. This time works for me. | |
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22:37 | vikram_ | Can we do it a bit early? |
22:38 | As in it is 4 Am in India | |
22:38 | Probably two or hrs early. I am fine with the current time if you guys have a problem with another | |
22:38 | walterbender | Ouch. |
22:39 | I am free after 1:30 PM EST on Tuesdays | |
22:39 | vikram_ | I think Tymon is having connection issues |
22:39 | walterbender | so I guess that would be just after midnight for you? |
22:39 | or we could do it in my morning. | |
22:39 | vikram_ | Ya you are right |
22:39 | walterbender | but we should factor in Tymon |
22:39 | vikram_ | If it works for both of you |
22:40 | walterbender | Not sure his schedule |
22:40 | vikram_ | Tymon just sent a mail, check it |
22:40 | walterbender | my only constraint on Tuesdays is a 1PM call I need to carve out time for each week |
22:41 | vikram_ | Oh i see |
22:42 | walterbender | Seems we have lost him... you should get to sleep. |
22:42 | we can pick up by email | |
22:43 | vikram_ | No problem, thank you |
22:43 | walterbender | good night |
22:43 | vikram_ | I will make mock ups and send them to both of you |
22:43 | walterbender | good start |
22:44 | vikram_ | Dankeschön, Auf Wiederhören!! |
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22:47 | ignacio_ | Hi |
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