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11:58 | meeting <meeting!~sugaroid![]() |
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15:31 | reubencaron_ <reubencaron_!~reubencar![]() |
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22:06 | sammeister <sammeister!~samsongod![]() |
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22:12 | sammeister | Hello |
22:47 | walter_ <walter_!~walter![]() |
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22:47 | walter_ is now known as walterbender | |
22:49 | walterbender | hey bernie_ |
22:49 | you back from your travels? | |
22:55 | TonyF <TonyF!caadc1bf![]() |
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22:55 | sammeister | Hello all |
22:59 | kaametza | hello everybody :D |
23:00 | TonyF | Hi all |
23:00 | walterbender | any SLOB members here? |
23:01 | or did they make the mistake of trusting my UTC calculation? | |
23:01 | meeting | * Jose_Miguel-es has joined |
23:01 | JM_ <JM_!~webchat![]() |
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23:02 | walterbender | hi JM_ |
23:02 | kaametza | hola Jose Miguel |
23:02 | meeting | <Jose_Miguel-es> Hello! |
23:02 | sammeister | Yeah I am here |
23:02 | kaametza | hi sammeister |
23:03 | sammeister | Hy kaametza |
23:04 | kaametza | so it was your birthday last week :D |
23:05 | how old are you now? | |
23:05 | sammeister | 16 years old |
23:06 | walterbender | so... we may or may not have a quorum, but let's meet |
23:06 | kaametza | :o) congrats! |
23:06 | walterbender | I can update those who show up in two hours :P |
23:06 | #start-meeting | |
23:06 | meeting | Meeting started Mon Nov 2 23:06:41 2015 UTC. The chair is walterbender. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
23:06 | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #endmeeting | |
23:06 | sammeister | Thanks |
23:06 | walterbender | #topic GCI |
23:06 | just a quick update. | |
23:07 | we agreed last meeting that we'd apply to Google Code In again this year. I've had pretty good luck recruting mentors | |
23:07 | and we are starting to get a pretty decent list of tasks in the wiki | |
23:08 | I will fill out our application tomorrow (the first day we can sign up). | |
23:08 | I am hopeful it will happen as it is a great program for us. | |
23:08 | sammeister | I am waiting for Caryl to come online. I won't be staying long it about 1:00am by my time. Not feeling to good |
23:08 | walterbender | Caryl may have been confused by my arithmetic error |
23:09 | sammeister, family and health come before Sugar !!! | |
23:09 | anyone who has more ideas for GCI, please add them to the wiki. | |
23:09 | sammeister | about the GCI I inviting people to come work sugarlabs |
23:10 | walterbender | sammeister, that is great!! |
23:10 | sammeister | Walter did ibiam mailed u |
23:10 | walterbender | sammeister, yes... I answered |
23:10 | we have a nice combination of Python and JavaScript tasks this year | |
23:11 | and lots of fun tasks that don't involve programming | |
23:11 | so good beginner tasks too | |
23:12 | sammeister | I am working on javascript but I am having problems in combining python with it |
23:13 | walterbender | it is hard to do both at once :) |
23:13 | sammeister | Do u have any PDFs on that, Walter. |
23:14 | Like the turtle blocks js | |
23:14 | walterbender | sammeister, turtlejs is only JavaScript |
23:14 | I do one or the other on the client side | |
23:15 | sammeister | Oh my bad |
23:15 | walterbender | on the server you can be a bit more ecclectic |
23:15 | but I have been focusing on client side so that things can work w/o a server connection | |
23:15 | sometimes we run a local server, in which case we run both | |
23:16 | meanwhile... | |
23:16 | #topic Music Blocks | |
23:17 | Lots of progress... check it out at walterbender.github.io/musicblocks | |
23:17 | Devin, Yash and I wrote a paper for the constructionist conference and we'll do a workshop there too | |
23:17 | #topic membership/survey/election | |
23:18 | sammeister, you want to chime in --- I can share the minutes with Caryl when she gets here | |
23:19 | sammeister | Okay |
23:19 | We created the survey as discussed | |
23:20 | In order to know who is active or still intending to be a member of SLOB | |
23:21 | walterbender | icarito, did you and bernie_ sort out the hosting? |
23:21 | icarito | hosting is in a sugar labs vm it's just the dns |
23:21 | walterbender | is the survey somewhere where we can see it? |
23:22 | sammeister | Yeah Sebastian is working on that |
23:22 | I just tested the process | |
23:22 | icarito | yes it's ready to be sent once I get confirmation from caryl and sam they are satisfied with the texts |
23:23 | then I translate to spanish | |
23:23 | then I send the survey to the membership | |
23:23 | 248 of them | |
23:24 | I can give access to the backend for review | |
23:24 | walterbender | thx |
23:24 | sammeister | Hi icarito |
23:24 | icarito | hola sam ;-) hope you're feeling better |
23:25 | sammeister | Yeah improving I guess |
23:26 | icarito | the membership confirmation survey is ready to be sent I hope tonight |
23:26 | walterbender | sounds like we are on schedule |
23:26 | icarito | it will be a test for the actual election which will use the same system |
23:26 | sammeister | Yeah |
23:27 | Sorry guys i have to go to bed now. Send me the logs | |
23:27 | walterbender | ls |
23:27 | oops... wrong window ) | |
23:28 | JM__ <JM__!~webchat![]() |
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23:28 | walterbender | sammeister, good night |
23:28 | feel better | |
23:29 | sammeister | Thanks bye all. |
23:29 | sammeister has quit IRC | |
23:29 | icarito | would be nice if somebody else technically inclined would lend a review on the process. |
23:29 | JM_ has quit IRC | |
23:29 | icarito | just for transparency |
23:30 | there might be a little coding to do to fit the data to a condorcet counter | |
23:31 | walterbender | icarito, is the code in a public git repo? |
23:32 | icarito | sure, we're using unmodified https://github.com/LimeSurvey/LimeSurvey |
23:33 | there's been no coding at all except some CSS | |
23:35 | the system is installed at http://survey.somosazucar.org/ | |
23:35 | walterbender | so what code do you want us to review? |
23:35 | the LimeSurvey code itself? | |
23:36 | icarito | no the process i.e. log into limesurvey and understand how it works |
23:38 | walterbender | The UI is decent enough |
23:38 | getting the questions correct is always the challenge in creating a survey | |
23:40 | icarito | i've limited myself to being caryl and sam's technical person |
23:40 | i.e. installed the platform | |
23:41 | walterbender | would be good to have another set of eyes on the questions... |
23:41 | icarito | current survey has 1 question only |
23:41 | "would you like to continue to be an active sugar labs member?" | |
23:41 | Quozl` | begins observing (had head down in code) |
23:41 | icarito | actually: "Would you like to continue being an active member of Sugar Labs?" |
23:42 | walterbender | that is a bit awkward in English |
23:42 | and it seems a shame to not drill down a bit once we have people's attention | |
23:42 | but I won't second-guess | |
23:43 | icarito | caryl wrote a cover letter that goes in an email |
23:43 | the email contains a unique token for each member | |
23:43 | members have been imported | |
23:44 | walterbender | I assume the intention of the question is to ask if people currently on the membership list would like to maintain their membership status. |
23:44 | is the text of the cover letter available? | |
23:44 | icarito | yes the intention is to fullfill exactly what http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs/Members says |
23:45 | "In order to ensure that the Sugar Labs Membership list is reflective of the current status of the project and its participants, once a year members will be asked to confirm that they still wish to be a Sugar Labs Member." | |
23:46 | i can paste it | |
23:48 | http://fpaste.org/286263/46508070/ | |
23:49 | but I don't think Nov 15 deadline is necessary | |
23:49 | it can be up to the election time | |
23:51 | walterbender | It is fine, I guess. Maybe I will suggest a few copy-edits to Caryl, but none are pressing. |
23:52 | anything else? | |
23:52 | is very happy that we will finally have an election | |
23:52 | (if we get candidates :P ) | |
23:53 | kaametza | taking about that, I was wondering if the board would agree to have an open election results |
23:54 | what I mean is to be able to display all results openly | |
23:55 | icarito | I think you mean to publish the survey result data |
23:56 | kaametza | not only open data imposes in the political world as a trend but also will ensure that anyone has the option to be a candidate |
23:56 | icarito | it would mean vote would not be anonymous - i don't see a problem, I don't think it says it needs to be in the governance |
23:56 | kaametza | good news icarito :D |
23:57 | I mean that it doesn need to be anonymous | |
23:57 | Claudia_ <Claudia_!~webchat![]() |
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23:58 | Claudia_ | hi walterbender |
23:58 | walterbender | kaametza, the election results have always been public in the past |
23:58 | not sure what you are referring to | |
23:58 | hi Claudia_ | |
23:58 | as usual, I screwed up the time @ Claudia_ | |
23:58 | Claudia_ | I just check email and realized it was not at 8 or 7, but 6 pm |
23:59 | walterbender | kaametza, I think that we should let people vote in private |
23:59 | the members list is not private | |
23:59 | the results are not private | |
23:59 | Claudia_ | no problem, walterbender |
23:59 | walterbender | but I think some people would be uncomfortable having their vote public |
23:59 | Claudia_, the log is available |
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