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| 14:54 | tch__ | ping gsoc students :) |
| 14:56 | mohayon | pong :) |
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| 15:01 | tony37 | hello |
| 15:01 | tch__ | lets wait 5 minutes for more students to arrive |
| 15:01 | tony37, hola! | |
| 15:01 | k_yash | hello :) |
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| 15:01 | tony37 | ok |
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| 15:01 | ishan28mkip | hello :) |
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| 15:03 | abhinav | Hello |
| 15:03 | richashi | Hi everyone! |
| 15:06 | tch__ | #startmeeting |
| 15:06 | k_yash | I think we all are here |
| 15:06 | meeting | Meeting started Fri Jun 12 15:06:39 2015 UTC. The chair is tch__. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
| 15:06 | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #endmeeting | |
| 15:06 | k_yash | tch__ may I start? |
| 15:06 | tch__ | hello everyone :) thanks for coming! |
| 15:06 | who wants to jump in first? | |
| 15:07 | k_yash, go ahead | |
| 15:07 | k_yash | tch__ This week I added functionality of transforming matrix into staff and marks on it into musical notation. |
| 15:07 | I also integrated the prototype I made earlier. | |
| 15:08 | https://sugarizingmusic.wordpr[…]2/music-notation/ | |
| 15:08 | tch__ | k_yash, looking |
| 15:08 | k_yash | tch__ I asked Devin and Marnen for feedback and suggestions |
| 15:09 | tch__ | k_yash, looks really cool |
| 15:09 | k_yash | Devin is busy this week at Boston guitar fest...so he couldn't make up today |
| 15:10 | tch__ | k_yash, just curious (I think i asked this before), but are you planning to move these features to a separate app? |
| 15:10 | k_yash, or will be part of TB? | |
| 15:12 | k_yash | tch__ I am developing this over TB, and decreasing functionalities of TB side-by-side |
| 15:12 | tch__ | k_yash, got it, ok |
| 15:12 | k_yash, anything else you want to mention? | |
| 15:13 | k_yash | tch__, nothing from my side :) |
| 15:13 | thanks!! | |
| 15:13 | tch__ | k_yash, alright thanks :) |
| 15:13 | whos next? | |
| 15:13 | mohayon | I'm ready :) |
| 15:13 | tch__ | mohayon, please start |
| 15:14 | mohayon | So, Hi everyone. |
| 15:14 | This week I've improved the Calc App. | |
| 15:14 | I made it compatible with chrome webapps | |
| 15:15 | It was a pain because most math libraries are using eval() | |
| 15:15 | So with llaske with thought about a "light mode" | |
| 15:15 | *we | |
| 15:15 | I've updated the ui | |
| 15:16 | http://gyazo.com/e80e5bda4f79d0e9e3be7174fce2dba4 | |
| 15:16 | it's more "modern" | |
| 15:16 | tch__ | mohayon, I like it! nice colors selection |
| 15:16 | mohayon | Thanks :) |
| 15:16 | I've planned to finish this app at the end of the week | |
| 15:17 | That means, button on the palette to pick up math functions | |
| 15:17 | like sin/cos | |
| 15:17 | And hope I will be able to start the Paint app on sunday | |
| 15:17 | tch__ | mohayon, is it running in sugarizer too? |
| 15:17 | mohayon | Yep |
| 15:18 | tch__ | mohayon, very nice, |
| 15:18 | mohayon | Platforms are sugarizer/android/ios/firefox/sugar |
| 15:18 | Lot of testing time :) | |
| 15:18 | tch__ | mohayon, is well worth it, if you generate the .xo bundle feel free to send it to sugar-devel mailing list |
| 15:18 | mohayon | I forgot, one last thing is translation support |
| 15:19 | tch__ | mohayon, I am sure more people will give it a try |
| 15:19 | mohayon | llaske linked me some code |
| 15:19 | Okay, will do it :) | |
| 15:19 | I'll also blog as soon as I got the button on the palette | |
| 15:20 | And that's it I think | |
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| 15:20 | tch__ | mohayon, ok, thanks for the updates! |
| 15:20 | who wants to jump in? | |
| 15:21 | artista | maybe i can |
| 15:21 | tch__ | artista, please do! |
| 15:22 | artista | this week i had return block completed |
| 15:23 | it is functional | |
| 15:23 | tch__ | artista, any live demo? :) |
| 15:24 | artista | we were working on passing arguments to a function and in the process created some protoblocks to achieve that |
| 15:28 | so we are now re modelling calculate a nd do blocks | |
| 15:28 | tch__ | artista, I think i saw screenshots of these bocks on facebook, it would be nice to be able to test it, don't think it would take you much time to have some instance running on github |
| 15:29 | artista | i had the screenshot posted on the blog |
| 15:30 | tch__ | artista, alright, anything else? ;) |
| 15:31 | artista | we have also been going through writing some test cases and setting the testing environment for it |
| 15:31 | we choose jasmine + karma for it | |
| 15:32 | i would now start writing some tests this week | |
| 15:34 | do you have any questions? | |
| 15:34 | tch__ | artista, not really, thanks for the update, we need to move on :) |
| 15:34 | ishan28mkip | can I go next? :) |
| 15:34 | tch__ | ishan28mkip, go go! |
| 15:36 | ishan28mkip | This week due to to several problems in developing 2D graphics and mouse events with three.js |
| 15:36 | walter and I had decided that we would use 2 libraries, one for 2D and other for 3D | |
| 15:37 | but now I have finally decided to go with only three.js | |
| 15:37 | the only problem is that I have to develop many libraries on the way to develop the code | |
| 15:37 | which I did this week | |
| 15:38 | I created a library that adds DOM like mouse events to three.js | |
| 15:38 | and many other 2D utiities that are not existing in three.js | |
| 15:38 | like bounding box | |
| 15:38 | Then I started porting the turtlejs code directly to three.js | |
| 15:39 | http://ishan28mkip.github.io/turtle3D/ | |
| 15:40 | currently I have ported error artworks and message containers. | |
| 15:42 | mouse events code : https://github.com/ishan28mkip[…]/js/utils.js#L125 | |
| 15:45 | tch__: ? | |
| 15:45 | tch__ | ishan28mkip, sorry, had to deal with something here, reading! |
| 15:46 | ishan28mkip, think these extensions to three.js can be upstreamed? | |
| 15:47 | ishan28mkip, not necessarily important for the project, but sounds useful | |
| 15:47 | ishan28mkip | I will definitely release them as independent libraries |
| 15:48 | but after the project | |
| 15:48 | tch__ | ishan28mkip, +1 |
| 15:48 | ishan28mkip, make sense | |
| 15:48 | ishan28mkip | releasing them would help the project as bugs would also be found. |
| 15:48 | tch__ | ishan28mkip, true |
| 15:49 | ishan28mkip | this week I plan to port the palettes. |
| 15:49 | and then integrate my prototype with it. | |
| 15:50 | tch__ | ishan28mkip, sounds like surgery hah |
| 15:50 | ishan28mkip | :) |
| 15:50 | tch__ | ishan28mkip, alright, anything else you want to mention? |
| 15:50 | ishan28mkip | not really :) |
| 15:51 | richashi | Can I go next? |
| 15:51 | abhinav | I want to come in next if ishan28mkip is done |
| 15:51 | tch__ | ishan28mkip, thanks :) |
| 15:51 | richashi, you got first | |
| 15:51 | richashi, go ahead! | |
| 15:51 | abhinav | :) |
| 15:51 | ishan28mkip | haha hard luck abhinav |
| 15:51 | :) | |
| 15:51 | tch__ | abhinav, he won for a ms |
| 15:51 | richashi | Hi everyone :), thanks abhinav :p |
| 15:51 | abhinav | I know |
| 15:51 | :( | |
| 15:51 | Go richashi | |
| 15:51 | richashi | So, this week I worked on adding the Open/ Save functionality. I iterated over many design options and discussed with Tony about advantages and disadvantages of each. Earlier we were thinking that while only saving html file, css and javascript files would automatically get saved. I could implement that but there was a problem of opening html file and the other 2 files to open automatically. |
| 15:52 | Finally we picked one design. So, the user writes in the three text boxes of HTML, javascript and css, and when he/ she clicks on the save button, the html file is saved and the javascript and css code is saved in relevant tags in the same html file (javascript code is saved inside <script></script> tags and css code is saved inside <style></style> tags). | |
| 15:52 | Similarly, while opening html file, it detects the javascript and css part and opens it in the respective sections of the shell. | |
| 15:53 | This week I am planning to push the shell with “Open/ Save” functionality added on github | |
| 15:54 | I have written about it in my blog also: http://richa-gsoc.tumblr.com/ | |
| 15:56 | tch__ | richashi, have you considered using tabs instead of boxes to maximize space? |
| 15:57 | richashi | I am still working on managing space part. That is precisely the next part of the project |
| 15:57 | Using tabs is a great idea! and I will be thinking in those lines too | |
| 15:57 | :) | |
| 15:57 | tony37 | on XO, there is only one tab visible - might make it difficult to get the immediacy of changing css or html |
| 15:58 | richashi | I meant…sub tabs within the shell |
| 15:58 | tony37 | I think the screeen may have to be dynamic depending on what the user is doing |
| 15:58 | richashi | yeah makes sense :) |
| 15:58 | tch__ | richashi, so did i ;) |
| 15:59 | tony37, richashi is up to you both :) | |
| 15:59 | I am just throwing thoughts | |
| 15:59 | away | |
| 15:59 | haha | |
| 15:59 | tony37 | another thing to be considered is saving/opening from the Journal |
| 16:00 | richashi | it’s always good to get ideas :) |
| 16:01 | currently I have tried on my laptop. The file is saved in “Downloads”. but I will see how to make the default folder point to Journal folder | |
| 16:02 | tch__ | richashi, make sure to check sugar's object chooser |
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| 16:02 | richashi | okay! |
| 16:02 | tony37 | We are very fortunate that Roshan Poudya has volunteered to join the project as co-mentor (roshan.poudyalolenepal.org) |
| 16:02 | tch__ | tony37, nice : |
| 16:02 | ) | |
| 16:02 | tony37 | Sorry, should be Poudyal |
| 16:04 | tch__ | richashi, anything else? :) |
| 16:05 | richashi | I will discuss with you various idea on space management. But that is it for today :) |
| 16:06 | tch__ | richashi, alright thanks :) |
| 16:06 | abhinav | tch__, Should I jump in? |
| 16:06 | tch__ | abhinav, your turn :) |
| 16:06 | abhinav | Thanks. :) |
| 16:06 | Hello everyone | |
| 16:06 | tch__ | llaske, still around? |
| 16:06 | llaske | Yes I am |
| 16:06 | abhinav | Awesome |
| 16:07 | So following from our last IRC session | |
| 16:07 | First of all, I want show www.abhinavanurag.me/randomTR | |
| 16:08 | The text/message to be sent may not be random | |
| 16:08 | But, this activity uses the server.sugarizer.js to the best of its capabilities. | |
| 16:09 | If u all are on the site, there are few instructions to play with it | |
| 16:09 | tch__ | abhinav, sure, lead us ;) |
| 16:09 | abhinav | 1. In order to share the activity, Use share button |
| 16:10 | tch__ | done |
| 16:10 | abhinav | 2. In order to connect to a shared activity, Click on show groups button on the right side |
| 16:10 | 3. Click on the group u want to connect | |
| 16:10 | tch__ | join 48bb76bf-2882-4a3c-af17-b35e08f05414 |
| 16:11 | abhinav | The group buttons have the groupID as their text |
| 16:11 | Marnen | cool! |
| 16:12 | tch__ | the strings are as random as we can be ;) ha |
| 16:12 | abhinav | Thanks. |
| 16:12 | Marnen | even works on my iPhone. |
| 16:13 | abhinav | Marnen, Thanks for informing. I didnt check in the iPhone |
| 16:13 | So, moving forward | |
| 16:14 | First of all, anyone facing any problems with the activity?? | |
| 16:14 | tch__ | not me, works fine |
| 16:14 | abhinav | Cool |
| 16:15 | So, as we can see one can only send message to a group as of now | |
| 16:15 | I didnt code for user-to-user direct communication intentionally | |
| 16:16 | tch__ | abhinav, that is ok, so it connects, retrives groups, joins groups and create groups, |
| 16:16 | abhinav | Because I wanted to take some time in thinking something on the lines of peer-to-peer |
| 16:16 | tch__ | llaske, is there anything missing in terms of sugarizer.server protocol? |
| 16:17 | llaske | No, however, all things here use current presence API implementation. It's just a new client. |
| 16:17 | abhinav | I hope I covered it all. llaske enlighten me in case I missed something |
| 16:17 | llaske | What interesting me is what will come next |
| 16:18 | abhinav | True |
| 16:18 | So next, as we discussed that day | |
| 16:18 | Turtle.js could be the activity to go for | |
| 16:19 | and make it use the sugarizer server | |
| 16:19 | llaske | Yes, do you think about that ? |
| 16:19 | abhinav | Yeah, I did think about that. |
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| 16:20 | llaske | What about documents we asked for ? |
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| 16:20 | abhinav | I will attach it now |
| 16:21 | https://docs.google.com/docume[…]/edit?usp=sharing | |
| 16:21 | It more or less covers all the interaction done between the server and the client | |
| 16:21 | Just a summary of it. | |
| 16:22 | I hope it explains the protocol well. | |
| 16:23 | llaske | It look like |
| 16:23 | abhinav | llaske, Should I go ahead |
| 16:24 | llaske | Yes |
| 16:24 | abhinav | Cool. |
| 16:24 | So, next is turtle.js | |
| 16:26 | Once again, turtle.js will be client and One needs to write code to connect,retrieve groups, join groups and create groups | |
| 16:26 | and it will be no different that the current client | |
| 16:27 | tch__ | abhinav, I have one suggestion for the docs :) |
| 16:27 | abhinav | tch__, Sure |
| 16:27 | tch__ | abhinav, even though I am not a fan of UML, I think you could use a sequence diagram to document the comm protocol https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sequence_diagram |
| 16:28 | abhinav | tch__, If u say so, I will try |
| 16:28 | tch__ | abhinav, if done well, it will be easier to understand.. |
| 16:28 | llaske | +1 |
| 16:28 | abhinav | True |
| 16:28 | tch__ | abhinav, ok, please continue with turtle part |
| 16:29 | abhinav | Cool. |
| 16:29 | So as I was saying, just the message structure will be different | |
| 16:30 | As then, we will be sending diffs on even the minor event like mousedown | |
| 16:30 | We just need to finalise on that | |
| 16:30 | tch__ | abhinav, I suggest you go for something more simple |
| 16:30 | abhinav | tch__, like? |
| 16:31 | llaske | something like a share button may be ? |
| 16:31 | tch__ | abhinav, only sync code on specific even like, when the user "plays" his code |
| 16:31 | abhinav | OK. On every click of share button, sync it |
| 16:31 | ryt? | |
| 16:31 | tch__ | abhinav, just to skip too much complexity |
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| 16:31 | tch__ | abhinav, if that works, then you can consider more detailed sync |
| 16:32 | abhinav | Yeah. That would obviously be easier to handle |
| 16:32 | True. | |
| 16:32 | tch__, +1 | |
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| 16:32 | tch__ | yeah, just go for simple first.. or will end up wasting too much time to grabbing events etc, which is not critical now |
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| 16:33 | abhinav | So, I guess, unless I dont start working on turtle collaboration |
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| 16:33 | abhinav | I wont the clear picture of the difficulties |
| 16:33 | So, I plan to do it in the next week | |
| 16:33 | tch__ | abhinav, llaske lets leave the details for later , the meeting time ran out :) |
| 16:33 | abhinav | tch__, llaske Should I go for it |
| 16:33 | tch__ | (a while ago) |
| 16:34 | thank you everyone for coming :) | |
| 16:34 | is time to end the meeting | |
| 16:34 | abhinav | Thanks evryone |
| 16:34 | tch__ | see you next week! |
| 16:34 | #endmeeting | |
| 16:34 | meeting | Meeting ended Fri Jun 12 16:34:54 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. (v 0.1.4) |
| 16:34 | Minutes: http://meeting.sugarlabs.org/s[…]-12T15:06:39.html | |
| 16:34 | Log: http://meeting.sugarlabs.org/s[…]15-06-12T15:06:39 | |
| 16:36 | tch__ | abhinav, +1, focus on that, try to get something that works, I think TB already supports multiple turtles, so is just a matter of passing code, inject that into a turtle and make sure it gets exec, then update on sync and repeat |
| 16:36 | abhinav, does not have to be perfect at first | |
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| 16:37 | abhinav | tch__, +1 |
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| 16:37 | abhinav | tch__, Will give u the update about turtle in few days |
| 16:37 | thanks :) | |
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