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| 22:00 | gonzalo_ | hello walterbender |
| 22:00 | who else is ready, ClaudiaU? | |
| 22:08 | Quozl`_ | my notes give me another 20 minutes before meeting. |
| 22:09 | although i could have the time zone in error. | |
| 22:10 | yep, i do. now 50 minutes away. 23 utc. | |
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| 22:10 | gonzalo_ | walter said 1 June at 23:00 UTC (19:00 in Boston/Asuncion; 20:00 in BA/Montevideo). |
| 22:10 | Quozl`_ | tch__: g'day. |
| 22:10 | gonzalo_ | hi Quozl`_ |
| 22:10 | tch__ | Quozl`_, hola |
| 22:11 | walterbender | hi |
| 22:11 | did I get the times wrong? | |
| 22:11 | tch__ | its 18:00 Asu now |
| 22:12 | 18:11 ;) | |
| 22:12 | Quozl`_ | i can see no error in times. |
| 22:12 | walterbender | same in Boston |
| 22:12 | 01:00 in Tel Aviv | |
| 22:12 | 01:12 | |
| 22:13 | gonzalo_ | confirmed, i am crazy, here is 19, not 20! |
| 22:13 | Quozl`_, anything to talk in the while? | |
| 22:14 | Quozl`_ | gonzalo_: i've another few hundred mail to get through, so nothing on my mind yet. ;-) |
| 22:14 | tch__ | haha |
| 22:14 | brb in 45 mins | |
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| 22:20 | Quozl`_ | gonzalo_: private message ping. |
| 22:20 | CanoeBerry: welcome adam. | |
| 22:21 | ignacio | A meeting is runing? |
| 22:23 | CanoeBerry2 has quit IRC | |
| 22:25 | Quozl`_ | ignacio: hope so, but not yet. another 34 minutes. |
| 22:26 | ignacio | Quozl`_:oh, thanks |
| 22:56 | walterbender | who is around? |
| 22:56 | Quozl`_ | them. /me points |
| 22:56 | walterbender | ha ha |
| 22:57 | everyone about ready to begin? | |
| 22:57 | show of hands so we can determine if we have a quorum? | |
| 22:57 | ignacio | Hello |
| 22:58 | walterbender | hi ignacio |
| 22:58 | has been hacking turtle all day... having fun | |
| 22:58 | ignacio | I saw the commits / facebook |
| 22:58 | walterbender | it is pretty cool... we build a little sensor pack that writes to a server |
| 22:59 | and a new plugin to grab cloud data | |
| 22:59 | combined it with maps, etc. | |
| 22:59 | ignacio | great, also, I found some ¿bads? translations |
| 22:59 | I think they aren't bad but, in the context that they are yes | |
| 23:00 | walterbender | ignacio, Please send me a patch :) |
| 23:00 | OK... the bell rings | |
| 23:00 | ignacio | Sure, when I get back :) |
| 23:00 | walterbender | it is 23:00 UTC |
| 23:01 | ignacio, or while we are in SF :) | |
| 23:01 | ignacio | +1 |
| 23:01 | walterbender | gonzalo_, ClaudiaU tch__ CanoeBerry ? |
| 23:01 | Jose Miguel? | |
| 23:02 | hello??? | |
| 23:03 | ignacio | hehe |
| 23:03 | gonzalo_ | hello! |
| 23:03 | walterbender | 2AM for me... I'd like to get started. I have a 7AM start tomorrow :P |
| 23:03 | we need a few more SLOB members | |
| 23:04 | gonzalo_ | walterbender, 2AM, where are you? |
| 23:04 | walterbender | Tel Aviv |
| 23:04 | actually, in the Negev, Yeruham | |
| 23:04 | I've been at a hackfest all day | |
| 23:05 | CanoeBerry | Hi |
| 23:05 | walterbender | hi adam |
| 23:05 | ClaudiaU, are you there? | |
| 23:05 | gonzalo_ | walterbender, turtles in he sand? :) |
| 23:05 | walterbender | look... let's get started and if we don't have a quorum, we won't vote on any thing :P |
| 23:06 | #start-meeting | |
| 23:06 | meeting | Meeting started Mon Jun 1 23:06:01 2015 UTC. The chair is walterbender. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
| 23:06 | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #endmeeting | |
| 23:06 | CanoeBerry | Do we have 4? |
| 23:06 | Almost? | |
| 23:06 | walterbender | CanoeBerry, almost... 3 so far |
| 23:06 | at least we can talk | |
| 23:07 | gonzalo_ | walterbender, mybe is better postpone for the next week |
| 23:07 | walterbender | gonzalo_, next week will not work for me... well... depends on the schedule at Google |
| 23:07 | ignacio | we can talk in sf, haha.:) |
| 23:07 | walterbender | the 3rd monday will work |
| 23:07 | the 15th | |
| 23:08 | I can wait... | |
| 23:08 | gonzalo_ | walterbender, is the same if we send a invitation |
| 23:08 | let's wait 5 more mins | |
| 23:08 | walterbender | maybe I will pose some questions via email with the reminder/invite |
| 23:08 | gonzalo_, +1 | |
| 23:08 | meanwhile, | |
| 23:08 | I was asked to send someone a video describing Sugar... do we have such a thing? | |
| 23:09 | ignacio | walterbender: I think there was one |
| 23:09 | content of gci | |
| 23:09 | walterbender | (we have the promo by the GCI student last year but I think he was looking for something a bit more depth) |
| 23:09 | gonzalo_ | walterbender, we have the videos with features in 0.100 and 0.102 too |
| 23:10 | but the gci video was a nice introduction | |
| 23:10 | walterbender | gonzalo_, I wonder about something geared more towards pedagogy? |
| 23:10 | gonzalo_ | walterbender, no, we don't have that |
| 23:10 | walterbender | I'll send the GCI video and perhaps the Sugar chapter from my book |
| 23:10 | ignacio | I think we can work in a video |
| 23:11 | gonzalo_ | ignacio, maybe collect something from the cibal programs in the tv? |
| 23:11 | walterbender | ignacio, maybe we can get Sameer to shoot a video of you, Sam and I discussing Sugar when we are in SF? |
| 23:11 | gonzalo_, this one needs to be in English | |
| 23:11 | gonzalo_ | sure |
| 23:11 | ignacio | Sure, I will try to speak English |
| 23:11 | walterbender | :) |
| 23:11 | ignacio | but btw, I think that is why its rocks. Sugar connects multilingual users |
| 23:12 | gonzalo_ | CanoeBerry, walterbender, i have updated the survey replies summary with data recieved from other 3 deployments |
| 23:12 | walterbender | gonzalo_, thx |
| 23:12 | gonzalo_ | We have data from a little more than 500K users |
| 23:12 | walterbender | nice |
| 23:12 | I met someone from SRI who runs their educational research this week | |
| 23:13 | will try to get him up to speed. | |
| 23:13 | he knows OLPC from 2007 but not Sugar | |
| 23:13 | but he could be a big ally if he learns about what we are doing | |
| 23:13 | also some good people from the NYC system | |
| 23:13 | I keep trying :) | |
| 23:14 | Turtle JS is an easy sell :P | |
| 23:14 | Sugar is more complex :( | |
| 23:14 | tch__ | I am here dishes took more time than expected |
| 23:16 | walterbender | tch__, congrats on the latest milestone |
| 23:16 | tch__, I apologize I haven't finished up the JS pot glue yet | |
| 23:16 | tch__ | walterbender, only 1 month away from the final release :) |
| 23:16 | ignacio | Features closed |
| 23:16 | walterbender | something else for Sam, Ignacio and me to do in SF |
| 23:17 | ignacio | I think we have some work from GCI to push (Still) |
| 23:17 | walterbender | ignacio, this is not a feature, it is backend infrastructure |
| 23:17 | ignacio, we need to do a little work on those bits | |
| 23:17 | I use them but they are not 100% of what we need | |
| 23:17 | tch__ | freatures, String, API and UI frozen now, time for critical bug fixes and translations now :) |
| 23:17 | ignacio, ^ | |
| 23:17 | ignacio | tch__:thanks |
| 23:18 | walterbender | ignacio, we can discuss it when I see you next week |
| 23:19 | we are close | |
| 23:19 | ignacio | Sure |
| 23:19 | walterbender | is too sleepy at the moment to be coherent |
| 23:19 | ignacio | btw, in case anyone don't know, Walter, Sam and I, are meeting next week, (Gci 2014 trip.) |
| 23:19 | walterbender | not sure is icarito is around but it would be good to get an update from the Membersjip commitee when we meet next |
| 23:20 | FYI, FZT is initiating a university program on Sugar programming beginning next month :) | |
| 23:21 | and I have a lead on someone who wants to make a documentary film on the Sugar youth hackers :) | |
| 23:21 | seems we will not have a quorum tonight :( | |
| 23:22 | any open issues? | |
| 23:22 | Quozl`_, I thought your response to Sam's email was spot on. | |
| 23:22 | gonzalo_ | walterbender, probably would be good ask by email, cc the list to icarito and the team about the advacnces |
| 23:22 | walterbender | Cerlyn, you hear? did you want to comment on your agenda? |
| 23:23 | we can try to refine it for the next meeting | |
| 23:23 | Cerlyn | not really |
| 23:23 | Quozl`_ | walterbender: you mean "I've checked, and there's nothing in the log to show this loss of data." or some other mail? |
| 23:23 | walterbender | gonzalo_, I'll send a more broad-based reminder since the meeting will not be at the regular time |
| 23:23 | Cerlyn | Hearing a fair amount from private conversations, trying to piece together what's going on when everyone has their own view of a shattered puzzle |
| 23:24 | walterbender | Cerlyn, would be nice to have a public discussion rather than a whisper campaign |
| 23:25 | Cerlyn | walterbender: Agreed; which is why you keep seeing me mention the word "public" because I'm tired of rumors |
| 23:25 | Quozl`_ | If you would just ask publically what particpants are doing, you'd probably get a better view of the puzzle. |
| 23:25 | walterbender | I am a bit behind in my blog again |
| 23:25 | gonzalo_ | hi Cerlyn |
| 23:25 | Quozl`_ | "hey dude, whatchadoin?" |
| 23:27 | walterbender | the GSoC students are all blogging now |
| 23:27 | gonzalo_ | Cerlyn, this meeting is public |
| 23:27 | walterbender | and a lot of kids who we had to reject are working on their projects anyway :) |
| 23:28 | NI is going to try to pump new life into PE and RW | |
| 23:28 | IN seems to picking up momentum | |
| 23:28 | lots happening | |
| 23:29 | Cerlyn | OLPC's list of employees hasn't changed since I worked there two years ago :) |
| 23:29 | Quozl`_ | i've been engaging with debian and ubuntu. published methods for using sugar on those platforms. |
| 23:29 | walterbender | Cerlyn, I cannot speak for OLPC |
| 23:29 | Peter keeps the Fedora flame alive | |
| 23:29 | Quozl`_ | Cerlyn: in the same way that i would never expect to see Sugar Labs speak (e.g. SLOBS to have to spend time on approving a statement), I'd also never expect OLPC to speak. |
| 23:30 | walterbender | and Remy is working inside RH to see if we cannot get more formal support there |
| 23:30 | Quozl`_ | Cerlyn: and the same can be said of Fedora, Ubuntu, and Debian. They don't speak. Contributors do. |
| 23:30 | walterbender | Quozl`_, +1 |
| 23:30 | we have a dedicated release manager | |
| 23:30 | and some tenacious contributors | |
| 23:31 | the biggest problem I see is that ignacio is not teaching any of the girls he hangs out with on FB how to code in Python | |
| 23:31 | gonzalo_ | walterbender, no problems, then? :) |
| 23:31 | walterbender | :) |
| 23:31 | tch__ | hahah |
| 23:32 | walterbender | my grandson at 2.5 is already using Turtle, but not hacking Python yet :P |
| 23:32 | kind of scary | |
| 23:32 | Quozl`_ | the closing of the feedback loop from users to developers needs strengthening. but i have no suggestions on how. good progress on the survey, but not enough. |
| 23:33 | walterbender | Quozl`_, I see such potential in, for example, having some communication between RW and Sugar developers, but I don't know how to make it happen |
| 23:34 | Quozl`_ | walterbender: i get the impression that most users of software no longer think that software can be improved; it can only be replaced by new shiny. |
| 23:35 | walterbender | Quozl`_, I see users itching for a way to break free from the constraints of shiney |
| 23:35 | but I travel in funny circles | |
| 23:35 | meeting | * Jose_Miguel-es has joined |
| 23:35 | walterbender | hey... quorum |
| 23:36 | meeting | <Jose_Miguel-es> Hello! Pardon by the hour... |
| 23:36 | walterbender | I still think we should meet on the 15th |
| 23:36 | since I am running out of steam | |
| 23:36 | Quozl`_ | perhaps an obvious feedback mechanism in the sugar shell, which suggests software update to fix problems. |
| 23:37 | perhaps software update should extend to shell, toolkit, datastore, and journal. | |
| 23:37 | walterbender | Quozl`_, tch and I wrote a feedback app... not sure it was every deployed |
| 23:37 | ever | |
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| 23:38 | Quozl`_ | if they are itching to talk, give them a voice. |
| 23:38 | walterbender | we already give them the Speak Activity :) |
| 23:38 | Quozl`_ | heh, don't we know it. |
| 23:39 | walterbender | I will tell you, the animate Samdroid added during GCI is a huge hit with the little ones |
| 23:40 | Quozl`_ | i don't know of it, sorry. |
| 23:40 | gonzalo_ | walterbender, animate? |
| 23:40 | walterbender | Quozl`_, it landed a few versions ago... you can load a photo and make the jaw drop in an animation |
| 23:40 | fingers are not typing very well... need sleep | |
| 23:40 | gonzalo_ | ahh, speak activity |
| 23:41 | walterbender, let's continue next 15th | |
| 23:41 | walterbender | gonzalo_, +1 |
| 23:41 | gonzalo_ | ignacio, walterbender, enjoy the travel |
| 23:41 | walterbender | thanks |
| 23:41 | I'll send a remind email | |
| 23:42 | and a more detailed list of discussion topics | |
| 23:42 | calling it a night | |
| 23:44 | Quozl`_ | (tell 'em we had a good meeting anyway). |
| 23:44 | walterbender | #end-meeting |
| 23:45 | meeting | Meeting ended Mon Jun 1 23:44:59 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. (v 0.1.4) |
| 23:45 | Minutes: http://meeting.sugarlabs.org/s[…]-01T23:06:01.html | |
| 23:45 | Log: http://meeting.sugarlabs.org/s[…]15-06-01T23:06:01 | |
| 23:45 | walterbender | going offline for a few minutes... heading to the hotel |
| 23:45 | meeting | <Jose_Miguel-es> *Bye! And apologies! |
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