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| 14:32 | tony37 | hello |
| 14:33 | walterbender | hi tony37 |
| 14:37 | crusher_e0bc | tony37: hi |
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| 14:38 | tony37 | hi |
| 14:39 | walterbender | well get tarted in about 15 minutes |
| 14:39 | we'll | |
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| 14:54 | mohayon | z |
| 14:54 | Hello everyone | |
| 14:54 | walterbender | hi mohayon |
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| 14:55 | dhawanutkarsh | hi |
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| 14:59 | abhinav | Hello People |
| 15:00 | walterbender | lets begin |
| 15:00 | #start-meeting | |
| 15:00 | meeting | Meeting started Fri May 29 15:00:36 2015 UTC. The chair is walterbender. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
| 15:00 | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #endmeeting | |
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| 15:01 | ishan28mkip | Hello everyone :) |
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| 15:01 | walterbender | did everyone have a good week? |
| 15:01 | tony37 | great! |
| 15:01 | walterbender | mohayon, wanna start off with an update? |
| 15:01 | mohayon | Yes, of course |
| 15:02 | abhinav | awesome |
| 15:02 | ishan28mkip | Hey walter can I go next after mohayon. |
| 15:02 | Week was great | |
| 15:03 | mohayon | So, I finished setting up my whole dev environment, that means Android, iOS, firefoxOS, Web and XO. :) |
| 15:03 | And started working on the Calc app | |
| 15:04 | walterbender | needs a similar setup |
| 15:04 | mohayon | I'm currently working on the responsivness |
| 15:04 | With llaske we agreed on supporting low resolutions | |
| 15:05 | walterbender | any platform in particular giving you problems? |
| 15:05 | mohayon | So there are many tests :) |
| 15:05 | Not yet | |
| 15:05 | I was using flexbox at first | |
| 15:05 | But managed to remove them | |
| 15:06 | I used fledbox for vertical align purposes | |
| 15:06 | I've update my GSoC blog as well : sugarizingparis2015.blogspot.com | |
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| 15:06 | mohayon | http://sugarizingparis2015.blogspot.com |
| 15:07 | walterbender | does the layout have to change much as the screen gets small? |
| 15:07 | mohayon | I move the result under the typing area when the screen is too small |
| 15:08 | *results | |
| 15:08 | walterbender | and screen rotation? |
| 15:08 | mohayon | It works too |
| 15:08 | walterbender | great. it will be nice to have a good robust example |
| 15:09 | mohayon | I'm using a small css framework called pure |
| 15:09 | It's like bootstrap grids | |
| 15:09 | tony37 | flexbox is a problem? |
| 15:09 | mohayon | There's no polyfill for the new flexbox standard |
| 15:09 | So I prefered to use plain old css | |
| 15:10 | tony37 | ie again |
| 15:10 | mohayon | Yep, some old firefox versions as well. Didn't wanted to redo the css again :) |
| 15:11 | walterbender | and Chrome? |
| 15:12 | mohayon | Chrome's acting like a charm |
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| 15:12 | walterbender | any more questions for mohayon ? |
| 15:12 | mohayon | And chrome silents auto updates itself so no troubles |
| 15:13 | walterbender | ishan28mkip, your turn... |
| 15:13 | ishan28mkip | Hi |
| 15:14 | I have updated my blog | |
| 15:14 | dhawanutkarsh | hi |
| 15:14 | abhinav | walterbender, After ishan28mkip , I would like to go |
| 15:14 | ishan28mkip | turtle3d.wordpress.com |
| 15:15 | This week earlier I was working with turtle js modules directly | |
| 15:15 | Porting them to three | |
| 15:15 | But I had some difficulties in this process | |
| 15:15 | walterbender | it is a big task |
| 15:16 | ishan28mkip | Working directly inside the file broke the project dependencies and hence testing was a problem |
| 15:16 | Yup :) | |
| 15:16 | Now I am writing independent modules and will link them together later | |
| 15:17 | Hope this is a okay approach? | |
| 15:17 | walterbender | ishan28mkip, we may want to use more of a model/view structure to the code |
| 15:18 | it is a bit of a hodgepodge right now | |
| 15:18 | ishan28mkip | That is fine. |
| 15:18 | I am used to working like that #nodejs :) | |
| 15:19 | I have started work on drag and stick blocks. Hopefully will be done by tuesday. | |
| 15:20 | Weekly progress and schedule is detailed on the blog :) | |
| 15:20 | walterbender | ishan28mkip, looking forward to it |
| 15:21 | let me know when you push to git | |
| 15:21 | ishan28mkip | Okay. |
| 15:21 | walterbender | ishan28mkip, FYI, I made lots of progress in support of STL for 3D printers |
| 15:22 | will be more interesting in the 3D version, obviously | |
| 15:22 | llaske | oh TurtleArt for 3D printer ? |
| 15:22 | walterbender | llaske, yes... you need one intermediate step |
| 15:22 | ishan28mkip | Awesome :) |
| 15:23 | llaske | Great ! |
| 15:23 | walterbender | to do an SVG to STL conversion |
| 15:23 | really fun stuff | |
| 15:23 | I've been working with a teacher on it... making stamps and tiles | |
| 15:24 | llaske | cool. |
| 15:24 | ishan28mkip | Oh. That's nice. |
| 15:24 | walterbender | http://joshburker.blogspot.com[…]-3d-printing.html |
| 15:24 | abhinav, you ready? | |
| 15:25 | abhinav | walterbender, yeah sure |
| 15:25 | dhawanutkarsh | walterbender: awesome (y) |
| 15:25 | ishan28mkip | We have to implement this in the 3d version. |
| 15:27 | abhinav | after doing a thorough study of sugarizer and my ideas on how to improve the current implementation, I came up with a reformed protocol for collaboration |
| 15:27 | walterbender | http://joshburker.blogspot.com[…]bel/3D%20printing |
| 15:27 | abhinav | And it is under constant scrutiny of llaske |
| 15:28 | walterbender | abhinav, and tch? |
| 15:28 | abhinav | talking about the improvements, I am very keen to use webRTC for peer-to-peer communication |
| 15:29 | as websockets doesn't extend peer-to-peer support | |
| 15:29 | walterbender, i m in touch with tch as well | |
| 15:29 | walterbender | abhinav, peer to peer would be great |
| 15:29 | abhinav, let me know when you have something to test | |
| 15:30 | abhinav | so, in nutshell, for a user to collaborate in a shared activity, things would be normal |
| 15:30 | walterbender | will roll it into Turtle |
| 15:30 | abhinav | request going to the central server |
| 15:30 | and central server propagating it to other nodes interested in the shared activity | |
| 15:30 | llaske | sorry to break hope but I'm afraid webRTC peer-to-peer don't work without a central server for the moment :-( |
| 15:31 | walterbender | maybe Weave will help? /me knows nothing about it yet |
| 15:31 | abhinav | But I hope we will certainly gain some performane benefits over the normal approach |
| 15:32 | llaske | Weave ? |
| 15:32 | mohayon | From the Google I/O ? |
| 15:32 | walterbender | yes |
| 15:33 | from the little I know, it will support a peer to peer protocol | |
| 15:33 | abhinav | cool, will certainly look into it |
| 15:33 | walterbender | abhinav, might be a distraction in the short term |
| 15:34 | abhinav | if its worth it, then why not? |
| 15:34 | walterbender | abhinav, let's learn more about it |
| 15:34 | abhinav | moving on |
| 15:35 | A meeting is scheduled for today with llaske and tch | |
| 15:35 | llaske | Like mohayon said, compatibility is a key here too |
| 15:35 | abhinav | where we will finalise these things |
| 15:35 | walterbender | abhinav, what time? If I can, I'll be a fly on the wall... |
| 15:36 | abhinav | walterbender, just after this meet if we get tch by then |
| 15:36 | walterbender | any other questions for abhinav ? |
| 15:38 | who is next? richashi ? | |
| 15:38 | richashi | yeah sure:). Hi everyone! |
| 15:38 | dhawanutkarsh | hi |
| 15:39 | richashi | So, I made a lot of progress. I am currently hacking in the sugar code base. :) |
| 15:39 | I looked into the “Browse activity” python files | |
| 15:40 | and have integrated a working prototype of the “Interactive Javascript Shell” in the Browser | |
| 15:40 | walterbender | sounds great |
| 15:40 | richashi | so, as of now, in this initial phase, I created an icon next to the “bookmark” icon, clicking which the shell opens |
| 15:41 | I have not solved one problem though | |
| 15:41 | Currently I manuallly copy the icon picture and the html file in the build/out/* directory | |
| 15:41 | I could not find how these can be copied | |
| 15:42 | while building the sugar code automatically | |
| 15:42 | that is the next part, and still have to discuss it with Tony | |
| 15:42 | walterbender | are they included in the git for Browse? it should be automagic |
| 15:42 | richashi | I have not added into the git as of now |
| 15:43 | that might be the trick, I guess……I will try that | |
| 15:43 | :) | |
| 15:43 | In parallel, I am also testing the “Eloquent Javascript” examples on the the prototype and the ones I have tested….they are working as of now | |
| 15:44 | but a lot more are still left to go | |
| 15:44 | walterbender | richashi, lots of the summer to go as well :) |
| 15:44 | richashi | yeah :) |
| 15:45 | walterbender | any questions for richashi ? |
| 15:45 | tony37, any comments? | |
| 15:45 | tony37 | lots to do and so little time |
| 15:45 | walterbender | tony37, such is life :) |
| 15:45 | richashi | Hi Tony….I didn’t know you were here! |
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| 15:45 | walterbender | hence the power of the community |
| 15:45 | richashi | I will send you a screenshot of the progress |
| 15:46 | walterbender | richashi, do you have a blog? |
| 15:46 | richashi | not as of now |
| 15:46 | walterbender | richashi, please set up a blog... good way to share progress |
| 15:47 | richashi | should I make one on the sugar wiki? |
| 15:47 | tony37 | Any suggestions for a name for the interactive javascript shell - some I tried are taken - webber seems possible |
| 15:47 | walterbender | richashi, anywhere that is convenient |
| 15:47 | tony37, webify? | |
| 15:47 | richashi | okay :) |
| 15:48 | walterbender | who are we missing? |
| 15:48 | tony37 | there is a webify company |
| 15:48 | walterbender | yash is not available today :P |
| 15:48 | tony37 | dhawanutkarsh |
| 15:49 | richashi | I will also think of a cool name! |
| 15:49 | walterbender | tony37, I imaging web* is pretty well covered |
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| 15:49 | dhawanutkarsh | hi |
| 15:49 | artista | can I start? |
| 15:49 | walterbender | dhawanutkarsh, hi |
| 15:49 | richashi | ;) |
| 15:49 | walterbender | let's let artista go and then, if dhawanutkarsh wants to report... |
| 15:49 | artista, | |
| 15:49 | artista | hello everyone |
| 15:50 | I started reading the code and experimenting with it, in order to understand the functioning of the block and running of turtle js. | |
| 15:50 | dhawanutkarsh | Me and 2 more guys are working on web confusion under tony37 |
| 15:50 | yeah no problem | |
| 15:50 | artista | Code for handling multiple turtles,unhighlighting and some functions made it longer than expected. |
| 15:51 | Target was to get the design plan for the calculate and args block | |
| 15:51 | walterbender | artista, it is a bit of a tangle... need to do some cleaning up |
| 15:51 | artista | seeing if the written functions and protoblocks can be used for the new blocks. |
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| 15:51 | walterbender | artista, maybe we can work on some unit tests? |
| 15:51 | artista | walterbender, I had it made it more messy .. :P |
| 15:51 | will clean it up | |
| 15:52 | yeah sure unit tests will be be good | |
| 15:52 | Currently I'm not able to think of method other than using argument stack for passing arguments | |
| 15:53 | Will continue to think on it more and experiment with it for couple of days | |
| 15:53 | walterbender | artista, look at how they do it in scratch and blocky |
| 15:53 | some ideas there | |
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| 15:54 | artista | ok will look at it. |
| 15:54 | will share with you if find something of interest | |
| 15:55 | walterbender | abhinav, meanwhile, adding a return block would be good, independent of solving the arg problem |
| 15:55 | abhinav | walterbender, sorry, couldnt get the reference |
| 15:57 | walterbender | abhinav, we want to not just add args to actions but also to be able to return a value from a function |
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| 15:58 | artista | walterbender, are you addressing me? I think there is a confusion |
| 15:58 | abhinav | walterbender, i am not working on the project u r referring to |
| 15:59 | walterbender | artista, ^^ |
| 16:00 | sorry abhinav | |
| 16:00 | artista | walterbender, we can think on return part. I thought to first solve the arg problem and then go to the return. |
| 16:00 | walterbender | autocomplete :( |
| 16:00 | artista, the UI for return is less complicated :P | |
| 16:01 | artista | yes it is |
| 16:02 | While reading the code I also tried to put together the constraints as in domain constraints that will help to write the debugging part | |
| 16:03 | walterbender | not sure I understand |
| 16:03 | richashi | ```````````` |
| 16:04 | artista | constraints of the block as in for multiply block arg should be number and like that |
| 16:04 | richashi | (sorry) |
| 16:04 | walterbender | artista, yeah |
| 16:05 | artista, I had a more formal set of checks in the Python version | |
| 16:05 | but there are some in place already | |
| 16:05 | you cannot attach a string block to a divide block | |
| 16:06 | artista | yeah I found some checks in js too but some were missing |
| 16:06 | walterbender | but you can attach it to the plus block, which acts like concat |
| 16:06 | artista, we can make a better abstraction for that part of the code | |
| 16:07 | anything else for now? | |
| 16:07 | artista | Will add to to-do list :) |
| 16:08 | walterbender | thanks for the update |
| 16:08 | your blog URL? | |
| 16:09 | artista | I have had it setup but it is not updated |
| 16:09 | walterbender | OK... please update weekly |
| 16:09 | dhawanutkarsh, wanna report in? | |
| 16:09 | artista | will do |
| 16:09 | dhawanutkarsh | yeah sure |
| 16:09 | sehgalvibhor | Walter,Hi |
| 16:09 | dhawanutkarsh | hello again |
| 16:10 | tony37 | sehgalvibhor should also report |
| 16:10 | dhawanutkarsh | Me sehgalvibhor and sanchit are working on Web Confusion under tony37 |
| 16:10 | tony37 | anindya chakriti as well |
| 16:11 | dhawanutkarsh | this will later on be merged with interactive javascript shell |
| 16:12 | I have designed the basic activity for web confusion-screenshots of the layout :http://www.tiikoni.com/tis/view/?id=39ca714 , http://www.tiikoni.com/tis/view/?id=9d4d854 | |
| 16:12 | richashi | nice :) |
| 16:12 | dhawanutkarsh | sehgalvibhor has started with the python activity for the same |
| 16:12 | sehgalvibhor | here is the code on github |
| 16:13 | https://github.com/sehgalvibhor/webconfusion | |
| 16:13 | dhawanutkarsh | as it would be a webkit activity and would call different html pages, so the web activity I am developing would work on both |
| 16:15 | and the code for the web activity can be found on:https://github.com/crusher95/web-confusion | |
| 16:15 | sehgalvibhor | We have also added a basic challenge splash page, which basically will list all the challenges and their images . As soon as somebody hovers the mouse on the challenge , the image of the challenge magnifies. |
| 16:16 | And when you click the image it redirects to the challenge page. | |
| 16:16 | This is just the mock we'll be improvising the layout | |
| 16:16 | as per Tony's guidance | |
| 16:16 | The python activity is running perfectly | |
| 16:19 | richashi | great! :) |
| 16:19 | walterbender | sounds great |
| 16:20 | sehgalvibhor | :) |
| 16:20 | dhawanutkarsh | :D |
| 16:21 | walterbender | we should wrap up |
| 16:22 | as a reminder, I will probably not be at the meeting next week (in an airplane) | |
| 16:22 | but tch will be here to run the meeting | |
| 16:22 | let's keep the pace up... | |
| 16:22 | and please update your blogs | |
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| 16:23 | walterbender | anyone have any last minute things that they want to discuss? |
| 16:24 | OK... thanks for all the work this week... | |
| 16:24 | #end-meeting | |
| 16:24 | meeting | Meeting ended Fri May 29 16:24:22 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. (v 0.1.4) |
| 16:24 | Minutes: http://meeting.sugarlabs.org/s[…]-29T15:00:36.html | |
| 16:24 | dhawanutkarsh | walterbender: (y) |
| 16:24 | meeting | Log: http://meeting.sugarlabs.org/s[…]15-05-29T15:00:36 |
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| 16:25 | richashi | thanks to the community! bye everyone |
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