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| Time | Nick | Message |
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| 00:00 | walterbender | (67 proposals and 17 mentors) |
| 00:00 | a lot of the students who did not get accepted have contacted me to say that they plan to work on their projects anyway | |
| 00:01 | says a lot about their enthusiasm for Sugar and the Sugar community | |
| 00:01 | meeting | <Jose_Miguel-es> *Yes. It is good data. |
| 00:01 | walterbender | they have all remarked on how supportive the community has been |
| 00:01 | thank you for that | |
| 00:01 | sdanielf | where are they from? |
| 00:01 | walterbender | everywhere, but mostly India |
| 00:02 | another goal of mine is to broaden the pool next year | |
| 00:02 | tch__, has been helping me with that | |
| 00:03 | I also may be able to find a bit of funding for some Sugar Summer of Code students... | |
| 00:03 | CanoeBerry | Will need to run to another meeting, are we almost done? |
| 00:03 | walterbender | not at the Google level, but something |
| 00:03 | CanoeBerry, almost... just one more topic | |
| 00:04 | #topic Discuss a mechanism to document SLOBS decisions | |
| 00:04 | gonzalo_, ^^ | |
| 00:04 | gonzalo_ | walterbender, yes |
| 00:04 | walterbender | gonzalo_, the decisions are hard to find |
| 00:04 | maybe all of them need to be on one page in the wiki | |
| 00:05 | will take me some time to do, but I am willing | |
| 00:05 | gonzalo_ | yes, we can depend on the memory of slobs members |
| 00:05 | walterbender | did you have other ideas too? |
| 00:05 | gonzalo_ | can't |
| 00:05 | i was thinking in make a document we have stored in git | |
| 00:06 | walterbender | gonzalo_, why git and not the wiki? |
| 00:06 | gonzalo_ | then, we can have the "live" decisions, and also the history of when, and why changed |
| 00:06 | walterbender | gonzalo_, the live decisions are in these meetings |
| 00:07 | gonzalo_ | we can use a simple format like .md or .rst and is visible as htl |
| 00:07 | walterbender | unless you think we should use git as the chatroom for our meetings too? |
| 00:07 | gonzalo_ | walterbender, i mean the decisions still active |
| 00:07 | no | |
| 00:08 | we need a one page place where all the active decisions are placed | |
| 00:08 | walterbender | I am fine using .md instead of wiki markup, but I still am confused |
| 00:08 | gonzalo_ | even if decided now or 3 years ago |
| 00:08 | if the slobs change his mind about a topic, is discussed, and changed | |
| 00:09 | but by example | |
| 00:09 | walterbender | gonzalo_, I need to go through all of the logs and pull out the decisions... |
| 00:09 | karen | wiki's great from our perspective - it's easy for someone not closely involved to take quick look and see what was decided |
| 00:09 | gonzalo_ | walterbender, there are actions like"send email to xx" that are not permanent |
| 00:10 | walterbender | ? |
| 00:10 | gonzalo_ | karen, don't worry. the end result is the same |
| 00:10 | karen | :) |
| 00:10 | gonzalo_ | walterbender, but go back to the discussed example |
| 00:10 | walterbender | I don't understand the example |
| 00:11 | is slow tonight | |
| 00:11 | gonzalo_ | walterbender, slobs (in 2009) decided a criteria to elect new members if they miss a number of meetings |
| 00:11 | walterbender | yes |
| 00:11 | CanoeBerry | wiki is friendlier to educators (generally) |
| 00:11 | gonzalo_ | walterbender, that decision was only remembered by who was in that meeting |
| 00:11 | i wasn't, not daniel or jose miguel | |
| 00:12 | walterbender | gonzalo_, yes... and I agree all decisions should be in one page |
| 00:12 | but I don't understand the rationale for git | |
| 00:12 | gonzalo_ | then, only because adam pointed to that decision we started to discus it |
| 00:12 | walterbender, i didn't expected need understand why git to you :) | |
| 00:12 | walterbender | was arguing with Gary Stager about git... /me took the position that educators should learn git :) |
| 00:13 | gonzalo_, I don't understand the specific goal you have in mind from git | |
| 00:14 | gonzalo_ | walterbender, the goal is have a document _and_ a history of changes |
| 00:14 | walterbender | gonzalo_ the wiki provides that |
| 00:14 | gonzalo_, I think a longterm goal of migrating from the wiki to git could be great | |
| 00:14 | sdanielf | but we are enough lazy for not having one article per agreement |
| 00:15 | walterbender | but I dont' see the advantage here |
| 00:15 | gonzalo_ | ok, no problem |
| 00:15 | if all prefer wiki, let's do on wiki | |
| 00:15 | CanoeBerry | Current mechanics of a SLOBS decision are described here, in essence: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/R[…]_a_SLOBs_decision |
| 00:15 | gonzalo_ | is clear the goal? |
| 00:15 | walterbender | sdanielf, we have one log per meeting but many meetings have multiple agreements (or no agreements) |
| 00:15 | gonzalo_, I think so | |
| 00:16 | gonzalo_, I'll work on this for next month's meeting | |
| 00:16 | and we can revisit | |
| 00:16 | OK? | |
| 00:16 | sdanielf | the idea is to have a clear changelog for a decision, I think |
| 00:16 | walterbender | sdanielf, for that, one per page as you suggest is important |
| 00:16 | meeting | <Jose_Miguel-es> In accordance with Gonzalo that it is *dificil follow the trace of the decisions. In accordance with the argument that it is hard work... |
| 00:16 | gonzalo_ | if the decisons ttaken by the slobs are not on a place, for us and for all, have zero value |
| 00:17 | we are on and on with the same tpics | |
| 00:17 | walterbender | gonzalo_, point taken... |
| 00:17 | let me make a first pass and we can critique it | |
| 00:18 | we should wrap up... we are running over | |
| 00:18 | gonzalo_ | walterbender, thanks for taking this tasks, i know is not easy |
| 00:18 | good meeting | |
| 00:18 | walterbender | #action walter to make a first pass at culling the decisions from past meetings into one page |
| 00:18 | thanks everyone for the great input tonight | |
| 00:19 | stay tuned for a report from NI | |
| 00:19 | 5 | |
| 00:19 | CanoeBerry | 4 |
| 00:19 | sdanielf | 3 |
| 00:19 | meeting | <Jose_Miguel-es> 2 |
| 00:19 | gonzalo_ | 1 |
| 00:19 | walterbender | #end-meeting |
| 00:19 | meeting | Meeting ended Tue May 5 00:19:40 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. (v 0.1.4) |
| 00:19 | Minutes: http://meeting.sugarlabs.org/s[…]-04T23:07:10.html | |
| 00:19 | Log: http://meeting.sugarlabs.org/s[…]15-05-04T23:07:10 | |
| 00:19 | walterbender | karen, thanks for joining us |
| 00:20 | meeting | <Jose_Miguel-es> Good nights! |
| 00:20 | walterbender | makes dinner |
| 00:21 | karen | thank you! |
| 00:21 | great work all around :) | |
| 00:21 | enjoy your dinner walterbender :) | |
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