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| 13:55 | llaske | Hi all, Labour Day here in France but I'm on line thought :-) |
| 13:56 | mohayon | Hi Lionel and hello everybody |
| 13:58 | richashi | Happy Labor Day from U.S.! No holiday here though :/ |
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| 14:00 | walterbender | Hello all |
| 14:00 | May is here :) | |
| 14:00 | k_yash1 | Hello walterbender :D |
| 14:00 | yeah | |
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| 14:01 | walterbender | But, yes, we don't celebrate Labor Day here on the 1st :P |
| 14:01 | native93 | Hey walterbender |
| 14:01 | walterbender | are all of the GSoC students here? |
| 14:01 | richashi | Hello all! This is Richa |
| 14:01 | mohayon | I'm here, Michael Ohayon |
| 14:02 | artista | Hello Everyone , I'm Amit |
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| 14:03 | walterbender | yash is here too |
| 14:03 | ishan28mkip, hello | |
| 14:03 | k_yash | walter how is going |
| 14:03 | walterbender | abhinav, ping |
| 14:03 | ishan28mkip | Hello walter |
| 14:04 | walterbender | let's get started |
| 14:04 | this should be a quick meeting... just want to be organized so we can start off running | |
| 14:04 | #start-meeting | |
| 14:04 | meeting | Meeting started Fri May 1 14:04:27 2015 UTC. The chair is walterbender. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
| 14:04 | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #endmeeting | |
| 14:04 | tch__ | Hello everyone ! :) |
| 14:04 | walterbender | #topic student/mentor pairings |
| 14:05 | I want to make sure that there are at least two mentors per student so that we have some backup in case a mentor is unavailable | |
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| 14:05 | walterbender | I think the "primary" mentor is generally clear to everyone? |
| 14:05 | richashi | yes |
| 14:05 | k_yash | yeah |
| 14:05 | mohayon | Yes |
| 14:05 | ishan28mkip | Yeah |
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| 14:05 | artista | yeah |
| 14:06 | walterbender | but, for example, I am hoping that tch will take a strong role in the collaboration project |
| 14:06 | and that llaske will also chime in | |
| 14:06 | tch__ | walterbender, llaske of course ;) |
| 14:06 | llaske | yes would love to participate on collaboration project |
| 14:06 | walterbender | and I am happy to be the test case (turtle) |
| 14:06 | great | |
| 14:07 | so we have that one covered :) | |
| 14:07 | k_yash | My mentors are Devin and Marnen :D |
| 14:07 | tch__ | walterbender, +1 |
| 14:07 | walterbender | k_yash, yes |
| 14:07 | and they are very excited | |
| 14:07 | I'll be around to help with any coding issues that come up | |
| 14:07 | but they are both very strong on all other aspects of the project | |
| 14:07 | abhinav | walterbender: hey |
| 14:08 | Sorry for being late | |
| 14:08 | walterbender | they regret that they cannot attend today's meeting |
| 14:08 | k_yash | I'm excited too.. |
| 14:08 | walterbender | abhinav, please look at the backlog as it is relevant to you |
| 14:08 | richashi | My mentor is Tony Anderson |
| 14:08 | walterbender | richashi, yes |
| 14:08 | k_yash | walter nothing to worry about right |
| 14:09 | walterbender | Tony is not on IRC too often, but he is generally responsive by email |
| 14:09 | maybe CC sugar-devel when you can to keep the community informed | |
| 14:09 | richashi, I think there are several more mentors (not here this morning) who are interested in your project | |
| 14:09 | richashi | yes, that’s right. most of our discussion took place through mails only :)\ |
| 14:09 | walterbender | german from NI for one |
| 14:10 | richashi, it is important that there be a good record of your discussions | |
| 14:10 | abhinav | walterbender: I went through the backlog |
| 14:10 | walterbender | history suggests it is key to a successful project |
| 14:10 | abhinav | And it seems clear from my side |
| 14:11 | richashi | okay. I will make sure that the community stays informed |
| 14:11 | walterbender | thx |
| 14:11 | richashi | :) |
| 14:11 | k_yash | and me too |
| 14:12 | walterbender | mohayon, lots of interest in your project as well and plenty of people prepared to help above and beyond llaske |
| 14:12 | mohayon | Great ! Very glad to hear that :) |
| 14:12 | walterbender | mohayon, I hope next week when I am in NI to get some direct feedbck about priorities from a major Sugar deployment |
| 14:13 | maybe it will help inform your work | |
| 14:13 | ishan28mkip | Walter : tony is my other mentor right? |
| 14:13 | llaske | What is NI ? |
| 14:13 | walterbender | Nicaragua |
| 14:13 | richashi | So, German would be the second mentor? |
| 14:13 | walterbender | ishan28mkip, I am hoping Tony Forster will help out |
| 14:13 | artista | walterbender, My primary mentor is you I guess but I'm not sure about my other mentor/s. |
| 14:14 | walterbender | richashi, german or perhaps one of the JS developers he recruited as mentors... I'll let you know |
| 14:14 | richashi | okay! thanks :) |
| 14:14 | walterbender | artista, I am going to pressure Gonzalo to help |
| 14:14 | he is very busy this summer, but I know he is also very interested in the project | |
| 14:14 | abhinav | llaske: Can I have your mail Id? |
| 14:15 | walterbender | so we can at least count on strategic feedback from him |
| 14:15 | llaske | abhinav: it's lionelolpc-france.org |
| 14:15 | artista | that would be great |
| 14:15 | ishan28mkip | I should start being in touch with tony also then. |
| 14:15 | abhinav | llaske: Thnx :) |
| 14:15 | walterbender | ishan28mkip, Yes... I'll contact him too... he had not signed up as a mentor, but I know he is interested |
| 14:16 | k_yash | walterbender on technical side...only you'll mentor me right? |
| 14:16 | walterbender | it is just a matter of time |
| 14:16 | k_yash, Marnen is very strong technically | |
| 14:16 | k_yash | oh :) |
| 14:17 | walterbender | did we cover everyone? |
| 14:17 | OK. | |
| 14:17 | #topic communication | |
| 14:17 | I propose the following: | |
| 14:18 | (1) everyone hang out in IRC as much as possible: #sugar | |
| 14:18 | (2) everyone join the sugar-devel list | |
| 14:18 | (3) everyone set up a blog and join the Sugar planet | |
| 14:18 | if we do that, we should be good | |
| 14:18 | I know last year we had some issues with the planet | |
| 14:19 | hopefully tch and I can sort them out this summer | |
| 14:19 | Also, please be sure to communicate directly with your mentor at least a few times per week | |
| 14:19 | richashi | the blog has to be made on the Sugar wiki or elsewhere? |
| 14:19 | native93 | walterbender, better if we provide the contact details of POC with Sugar planet |
| 14:20 | walterbender | richashi, It can be anywhere |
| 14:20 | richashi | okay |
| 14:20 | walterbender | there are instructions as to how to join the planet |
| 14:20 | looks for those instructions | |
| 14:21 | http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/S[…]ndication_request | |
| 14:21 | any volunteers to be planet master :) | |
| 14:22 | abhinav | walterbender: I can give it a try |
| 14:22 | If students can also be in the admin part :P | |
| 14:22 | walterbender | abhinav, please contact bernie |
| 14:22 | abhinav, students are first class members of the community | |
| 14:23 | abhinav | walterbender: Very true. Can I get the email Id of bernie? |
| 14:23 | walterbender | bernie AT codewiz DOT org |
| 14:24 | abhinav | thnx |
| 14:24 | walterbender | I have only one other topic on my list |
| 14:24 | richashi | http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/User:Bernie |
| 14:24 | walterbender | #topic meeting times |
| 14:24 | ishan28mkip | Walter how can we communicate, should we continue mail thread or switch to irc? |
| 14:24 | walterbender | I would like to have a weekly meeting of all of the students to review progress |
| 14:25 | Mentors are encouraged to join, but it is required of students | |
| 14:25 | would this time work as a regular time? | |
| 14:25 | abhinav | fine with me |
| 14:25 | ishan28mkip | This time would be fine |
| 14:25 | mohayon | It's great |
| 14:25 | llaske | sounds good for me |
| 14:25 | artista | Can it be one hr later? |
| 14:26 | walterbender | does that work for you guys in Europe and India? |
| 14:26 | richashi | Yeah. Can it be 1-2 hours later? |
| 14:26 | walterbender | fine for me |
| 14:26 | abhinav | yeah, anytime around this time will be good |
| 14:26 | llaske | 1h yes, 2h is not ideal |
| 14:26 | ishan28mkip | 1 hour later would do. |
| 14:27 | mohayon | Same as llaske, 1h would do it |
| 14:27 | walterbender | OK. Let agree to 11 in Boston and Asuncion |
| 14:27 | 15:00 in Paris | |
| 14:27 | tch__ | walterbender, works for me ;) |
| 14:27 | llaske | No, 17h in Paris |
| 14:27 | mohayon | 17:00 |
| 14:27 | walterbender | 20:30 in Delhi |
| 14:27 | richashi | So, that’s 8 am in California |
| 14:27 | k_yash | ok fine with me :) |
| 14:28 | abhinav | Sounds Cool |
| 14:28 | walterbender | sorry... 17 in Paris |
| 14:28 | ishan28mkip | Yup 8:30 pm in delhi. :) |
| 14:28 | k_yash | mumbai 8:30 right |
| 14:28 | walterbender | OK. done |
| 14:28 | llaske | Waow 4 timezone to manage :-) |
| 14:28 | abhinav | llaske: Thats the beauty :) |
| 14:28 | walterbender | I will be traveling back from NI next Friday, but feel free to touch base |
| 14:29 | richashi | okay, sure |
| 14:29 | mohayon | okay ! |
| 14:29 | walterbender | we will start in earnest the following week |
| 14:29 | llaske | guess students are not suppose to code for the moment |
| 14:30 | richashi | ;) |
| 14:30 | walterbender | llaske, they can start any time but we cannot require them to start yet |
| 14:30 | llaske | so we need to use this period to think about what should be done |
| 14:30 | abhinav | atleast, me and yash cannot. We have got our semester exam for the next 10-15 days |
| 14:30 | ishan28mkip | Me too. |
| 14:30 | abhinav | *ishan |
| 14:31 | walterbender | ouch |
| 14:31 | llaske | okay don't have understood this difference |
| 14:31 | walterbender | good luck with that |
| 14:31 | llaske, I think that the official Google schedule says coding starts on the 25 May | |
| 14:32 | llaske | it's what I've got in mind |
| 14:33 | k_yash | yeah timeline says 25th may |
| 14:33 | walterbender | are there any other things people would like to discuss today? |
| 14:33 | abhinav | walterbender: One thing we can do in this phase of 15 days that we can be clear with the technologies we will be using |
| 14:33 | llaske | in the meantime let's try to work more on architecture and features |
| 14:33 | walterbender | #topic other topics? |
| 14:33 | abhinav, yes | |
| 14:33 | llaske | +1 |
| 14:33 | mohayon | I agree with that |
| 14:33 | walterbender | we should be discussing the details over the next two weeks |
| 14:33 | ishan28mkip | We can also be clear about version control and browser support |
| 14:34 | walterbender | ishan28mkip, good point |
| 14:34 | llaske | all browsers :-) |
| 14:34 | walterbender | re version control, we have migrated to github |
| 14:34 | abhinav | true that |
| 14:34 | walterbender | so please use github |
| 14:34 | ishan28mkip | Alright. |
| 14:34 | walterbender | unless you have a strong case why you need to use some other version control system |
| 14:34 | richashi | for code review, what’s the procedure |
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| 14:35 | walterbender | richashi, that is up to you and your mentor |
| 14:35 | k_yash | okay...I use github only :P |
| 14:35 | richashi | okay! |
| 14:35 | ishan28mkip | llaske all browsers? Does that include ie 6/7? |
| 14:35 | walterbender | although if your project gets pushed upstream to Sugar Labs, there is a procedure laid out on developer.sugarlabs.org |
| 14:36 | llaske | No :-) |
| 14:36 | mohayon | I guess all modern browsers :) |
| 14:36 | walterbender | we don't do no stinking IE |
| 14:36 | neither does MS any more :) | |
| 14:36 | ishan28mkip | Haha :) |
| 14:36 | abhinav | walterbender: Thnx :) |
| 14:36 | richashi | :P |
| 14:36 | ishan28mkip | Thats a relief. |
| 14:36 | walterbender | llaske, would be great if you could run a seminar on multi-browser support for all of us |
| 14:37 | devin | I am on now. Sorry to be late. I am reading the history. Hi Yash! |
| 14:37 | k_yash | Hello Devin :) |
| 14:37 | walterbender | and might be good to come to some consensus on libraries too |
| 14:37 | llaske | Yes, why not I've wrote an e-mail on sugar-devel regarding that. I will repost it. |
| 14:37 | walterbender | llaske, thx |
| 14:37 | ishan28mkip | That would be great |
| 14:38 | walterbender | anything else for today? |
| 14:38 | llaske | Regarding libraries. require.js is the only pre-requisite today |
| 14:39 | in Sugar Web | |
| 14:39 | I think it's good to don't add more pre-requisite and let each activity decide other framework it need | |
| 14:40 | richashi | I agree |
| 14:40 | walterbender | llaske, I was think more along the lines of recommendations |
| 14:40 | for example, I have gone down several rat holes regarding media support -- things that work in Chrome but not Android | |
| 14:41 | would be good to save everyone else the same pain | |
| 14:41 | (and humiliation) | |
| 14:41 | llaske | HTML5 media |
| 14:41 | ? | |
| 14:41 | walterbender | camera, music, microphone, text to speech, etc |
| 14:42 | llaske | Okay mohayon will look on that too for Record activity |
| 14:43 | I suggest that he give us a sum up on that | |
| 14:43 | First TODO action for you mohayon :-) | |
| 14:43 | walterbender | Maybe we can ask each project to sum up in a couple of weeks |
| 14:44 | for example, we have three.js for Turtle 3D | |
| 14:44 | mohayon | Yep, I started looking for that kind of libs and got a list, I can post something about this |
| 14:44 | walterbender | it looks solid and well supported |
| 14:44 | but I haven't tested it on Android | |
| 14:44 | mohayon | Maybe a wiki page with some comparative features |
| 14:44 | walterbender | mohayon, +1 |
| 14:44 | we had a lot of discussion on sugar-devel when we first started the JS support | |
| 14:44 | llaske | Warning too: iOS support is not always good due to Safari |
| 14:45 | walterbender | but that is stale |
| 14:45 | llaske | +1 for wiki page |
| 14:45 | so everyone could add its experience inside | |
| 14:46 | ishan28mkip | +1 |
| 14:47 | walterbender | anything else for today? |
| 14:47 | artista | we would be having weekly meeting the same day i.e friday? |
| 14:48 | walterbender | artista, yes |
| 14:48 | but I will not be here next week... unless the airplane has WiFi | |
| 14:49 | artista | ok :) |
| 14:49 | richashi | have a safe flight :) |
| 14:50 | walterbender | thx |
| 14:50 | ok... | |
| 14:50 | devin | Walter, is MusicBlocks always going to be contained in the TurtleArt UI? Is that the plan? |
| 14:50 | walterbender | I think we can wrap up for today |
| 14:50 | devin | ...or a separate program? |
| 14:50 | walterbender | devin, a separate program |
| 14:51 | devin, I was just using Turtle to sketch the ideas | |
| 14:51 | devin | Okay, but we start from what we have... I see. |
| 14:51 | That is what I envision as well. Glad I checked! | |
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| 14:51 | walterbender | looking forward to a fun and productive summer |
| 14:51 | artista | +1 |
| 14:52 | tch__ | :) |
| 14:52 | ishan28mkip | +1 |
| 14:52 | llaske | Sure |
| 14:52 | richashi | :) me too!! |
| 14:52 | devin | Thanks! |
| 14:52 | abhinav | Same here. Excited :) |
| 14:52 | walterbender | #end-meeting |
| 14:52 | meeting | Meeting ended Fri May 1 14:52:37 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. (v 0.1.4) |
| 14:52 | Minutes: http://meeting.sugarlabs.org/s[…]-01T14:04:27.html | |
| 14:52 | Log: http://meeting.sugarlabs.org/s[…]15-05-01T14:04:27 | |
| 14:52 | walterbender | tch__, gonzalo__ back in 5 |
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| 14:53 | gonzalo__ | walterbender, ok |
| 14:53 | tch__ | walterbender, ACK |
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| 14:54 | k_yash | is excited too :D |
| 14:54 | devin | Please send documents on how to project plan (for us musicians). |
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| 14:57 | devin | I need to go. I asked Yash to help inform us on project planning/development/communication stuff. |
| 14:57 | Thanks. Bye! | |
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| 14:58 | richashi | Bye everyone! |
| 14:59 | k_yash | Bye |
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| 15:00 | abhinav | bye |
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| 15:02 | walterbender | gonzalo__, tch__ ClaudiaU did you see my edits from last night? |
| 15:03 | gonzalo__ | let me see |
| 15:03 | walterbender | I added some 1 sentence overviews |
| 15:04 | tch__ | walterbender, checking |
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| 15:08 | gonzalo__ | ClaudiaU, are you ready? |
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