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| 18:00 | walterbender | hello all |
| 18:02 | curiousguy13 | hi |
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| 18:03 | walterbender | shall we begin? |
| 18:03 | I want to thank everyone for their contributions this summer. I think you've all made significant contributions and I expect most of the work to land in our 104 build | |
| 18:04 | gp94 | hello |
| 18:04 | walterbender | I think this is the last meeting of the summer since we need to submit our evaluations beginning on Monday |
| 18:04 | curiousguy13, wanna start us off with your week summary? | |
| 18:05 | curiousguy13 | sure |
| 18:05 | this week i solved the issue i was facing while building sugar | |
| 18:06 | and then i resolved some issues with sugar-artwork and both of them are building successfully now. | |
| 18:06 | I am currently working on a problem that i am having in building sugar-datastore | |
| 18:07 | i mentioned the problem in an e-mail to the ML yesterday | |
| 18:08 | walterbender | curiousguy13, it is really great the progress you have made |
| 18:08 | curiousguy13 | also, i looked into the tests for sugar and made a unit-test and wanted to discuss further testing .... |
| 18:08 | walterbender, thanks! :) | |
| 18:08 | walterbender | while I don't think we will land Python 3 for Sugar 104, I think it will be the basis of Sugar 106 |
| 18:09 | curiousguy13 | yeah, i think that would be the best too |
| 18:09 | walterbender | curiousguy13, as I said in my email, sychning up with the Activity unit tests would be good: an example port of one activity to Python 3 along with a unit test |
| 18:10 | curiousguy13 | yeah, that makes sense |
| 18:10 | walterbender | any questions for curiousguy13 ? |
| 18:11 | curiousguy13 | walterbender, i also wanted to ask about the code samples that i eed to submit... |
| 18:11 | *need | |
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| 18:11 | curiousguy13 | should it be a diff with all the modules i have worked on? |
| 18:11 | walterbender | curiousguy13, you should just submit your git repos |
| 18:12 | as tarballs, I think | |
| 18:12 | curiousguy13 | okay, thanks |
| 18:12 | walterbender | and in your final report, link to your repos |
| 18:12 | curiousguy13 | cool |
| 18:14 | walterbender | martian_, want to go next? |
| 18:14 | martian_ | sure |
| 18:15 | this week, i finished up the task of adding cameras into ta3d | |
| 18:15 | which had been troubling me for a long time | |
| 18:15 | walterbender | martian_, did you push those changes to your git repo? I tried pulling yesterday: nada |
| 18:15 | martian_ | not yet |
| 18:16 | i have added camera into GNOME version | |
| 18:16 | need your help with adding to palettes | |
| 18:16 | there are 8 views | |
| 18:16 | walterbender | push the code and I can help later today |
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| 18:16 | aneeshdogra | walterbender: ping |
| 18:17 | walterbender | aneeshdogra, we are in the middle of the meeting |
| 18:17 | aneeshdogra | walterbender: okay. sorry for being late! |
| 18:17 | martian_ | front, top, right, left, top-front-right, top-front-left, bottom-front-right, bottom-front-left |
| 18:17 | walterbender | martian_, I'd like to release a prelimary version of the activity ASAP |
| 18:17 | we can get some feedback re v2 | |
| 18:18 | martian_ | sure |
| 18:18 | walterbender | I am curious what reggini wll think |
| 18:18 | martian_ | after adding cameras to palettes, i will merge code and send a pr |
| 18:19 | walterbender | OK |
| 18:19 | martian_ | http://imgur.com/egCprMj&pPiKCwW&B2I239n&Wx9czNn |
| 18:19 | walterbender | looking good |
| 18:20 | martian_, very pleased with the progress | |
| 18:20 | seems real now | |
| 18:20 | martian_ | I will probably discuss with you post-meeting if you are free |
| 18:20 | walterbender | I'll be here |
| 18:21 | any questions for martian_ ? | |
| 18:21 | martian_ | walterbender, wouldn't have been possible without your help :) |
| 18:21 | walterbender | worthwhile putting the time in |
| 18:21 | gp94, next? | |
| 18:22 | gp94 | sure :) |
| 18:22 | so i have written tests for all the activities | |
| 18:22 | except chat and turtleart | |
| 18:22 | currently many of them the tests have been pushed to my local repo | |
| 18:22 | write and pippy is being refactored | |
| 18:23 | write seems to be very unstable... | |
| 18:23 | wroking on that | |
| 18:23 | walterbender | the interface to abiword is unstable, alas |
| 18:23 | gp94 | otherwise coding phase seems to be completed...i think so |
| 18:23 | walterbender: yes abiword is unstable | |
| 18:24 | walterbender | is there a wiki page describing to activity developers how to write a unit test? |
| 18:24 | gp94 | i will be focusing on documentation in the last week and writing the testing guide for the activities |
| 18:24 | walterbender | :) |
| 18:26 | a nice addition to Sugar... will help us maintain a robust project | |
| 18:26 | gp94 | yes... |
| 18:26 | walterbender | gp94, can you submit push requests with the unit tests to the activity maintainers? |
| 18:28 | gp94 | i have already submitted a few pr, since a week...it seems like the helper function for gtk3 toolkit hasn't been complete...will rebase the commits and i hope the other pr's will also get merged afterwards |
| 18:28 | walterbender | gp94, makes sense |
| 18:28 | samdroid has been giving good feedback | |
| 18:29 | gp94 | gonzalo_: has been handling on my end :) |
| 18:29 | gonzalo_ | gp94, happy to help :) |
| 18:30 | walterbender | any questions for gp94 ? (I suspect curiousguy13 will have some next week) |
| 18:30 | gonzalo_ | gp94, can you push your test to a github repository? |
| 18:30 | gp94 | gonzalo_: all the tests in a single directory? |
| 18:30 | walterbender: not any as of now :) | |
| 18:30 | gonzalo_ | gp94, one dir by activity |
| 18:31 | gp94, but in a single repo, until we can push to the differnt activities | |
| 18:31 | gp94 | gonzalo_: ok will do so |
| 18:31 | gonzalo_ | gp94, thanks |
| 18:32 | gp94, also, I make a question in your toolkit pr | |
| 18:32 | gp94 | gonzalo_: welcome and thanks for the support during the coding phase :) |
| 18:32 | gonzalo_: yes i hadn't rebased the commits in read pr so, hadn't answered the toolkit pr till now... | |
| 18:33 | need to fix code where the funcitons are used and then i will tell you | |
| 18:33 | :) | |
| 18:33 | gonzalo_ | perfect |
| 18:34 | walterbender | native93, you there? |
| 18:34 | native93 | yeah .. |
| 18:34 | walterbender | wanna give us an update? |
| 18:34 | native93 | sure :) . |
| 18:35 | so last week I pushed in the all the codes .. this week was supposed to be a look at the bugs we were facing .. | |
| 18:36 | last week I got an upperhand with the module error one and got it solved and started a thread for another one | |
| 18:37 | for this one got a hint from gonzalo .. what I could notice was it may be due to clipboard instance .. | |
| 18:37 | it might happen that it may be referring the original clipboard rather than bulletin . | |
| 18:38 | walterbender | seems a likely mishap |
| 18:38 | native93 | still because it works on the original one .. couldn't find any satisfactory fix to it |
| 18:39 | walterbender, did you get time to pull the codes ? | |
| 18:40 | walterbender | native93, not this week |
| 18:40 | but the week is not over yet :) | |
| 18:40 | native93 | yeah . . maybe you can get some catch on it .. |
| 18:41 | otherwise .. I will also update the wiki page with the demo .. | |
| 18:41 | the latest one with a one button interface .. | |
| 18:42 | walterbender | OK |
| 18:42 | native93 | also what all will I have to submit on the melange portal ? |
| 18:42 | walterbender | native93, there is a lot of interest in some of the deployments for this work... to help with training and collaboration |
| 18:42 | you can submit a tarball of your repo | |
| 18:43 | native93 | ok sure .. and I am looking for people interested in this who could also help with the deployment |
| 18:43 | we can get some feedback after testing and release and improve it more . | |
| 18:44 | walterbender | +1 |
| 18:45 | any questions for native93 ? | |
| 18:45 | native93 | just one . should I document the bulletin clip board as well .? |
| 18:46 | because it works with the original clipboard . | |
| 18:47 | walterbender | I think both |
| 18:48 | native93 | sure .. so I will also get a demo with the existing clipboard ... showing file transfer back to the user |
| 18:48 | since I can't show it with other friends because of proxy issue .. | |
| 18:51 | walterbender | aneeshdogra, want to give an update? |
| 18:51 | aneeshdogra | walterbender: Sure! :) |
| 18:51 | walterbender: Okay. So this week we finally have the playback recording running | |
| 18:52 | walterbender: The thing I was stuck on since past 3 weeks | |
| 18:52 | *2 | |
| 18:52 | walterbender: It looks pretty neat actually, you should check it out. | |
| 18:52 | walterbender | aneeshdogra, I'll pull |
| 18:53 | aneeshdogra | walterbender: I am now trying to shepherd export to audio file code from TamTamEdit, which seems cryptic to me, into Music Keyboard. |
| 18:53 | walterbender: You already were a part of the discussion on why we left the api porting right? | |
| 18:54 | walterbender | aneeshdogra, you should tell the group |
| 18:54 | aneeshdogra | walterbender: Okay. |
| 18:55 | So, I am working to add audio export in the music keyboard activity | |
| 18:55 | you can record your keystrokes and then export them as an audio file. | |
| 18:56 | the current csound API we have, which most of the activities are using, is the one implemented in TamTam | |
| 18:56 | the API implemented there is short of any recording functionality | |
| 18:57 | I was not able to find any documentation for the same | |
| 18:57 | so, we had asked some guys. | |
| 18:58 | and they suggested that we port to the new csound API - https://github.com/csound/csoundAPI_examples | |
| 18:59 | although its a great idea, porting the activity to the next csound version is a big task in itself, and would take over a month. | |
| 18:59 | so we though of dropping this idea. | |
| 18:59 | Gonzalo and I discussed some approaches | |
| 18:59 | one was recording through the command line | |
| 18:59 | which is pretty simple to implement but not at all neat. | |
| 19:00 | walterbender | gonzalo_, any comments? |
| 19:00 | aneeshdogra | Gonzalo also suggested me to look at some recording code in TamTamEdit |
| 19:01 | I have spent around a day trying to understand that, but neither do I understand it nor does the recording work for me on XO-4 | |
| 19:01 | I am trying again today | |
| 19:02 | If it doesn't work I'll just go with the command line version | |
| 19:02 | walterbender | aneeshdogra, did you ever ask wu shi? |
| 19:02 | aneeshdogra | walterbender: Gonzalo sent him an email asking him for alternatives, he never replied. |
| 19:03 | walterbender: I was cced in that email. | |
| 19:03 | gonzalo_ | aneeshdogra, have you tried make a simple test case with the recording code? |
| 19:03 | walterbender | He was traveling the last couple of weeks -- to China |
| 19:03 | aneeshdogra | gonzalo_: Test case? |
| 19:04 | gonzalo_: you mean tried incorporating in music keyboard? | |
| 19:04 | yes I have | |
| 19:04 | gonzalo_ | aneeshdogra, yes, a minimal test case, trying to implement generate a .wav file |
| 19:04 | from csound | |
| 19:05 | aneeshdogra | gonzalo_: Oh no I haven't. |
| 19:05 | gonzalo_ | aneeshdogra, that is the first step when you are stuck |
| 19:05 | aneeshdogra | gonzalo_: Okay. |
| 19:06 | gonzalo_ | aneeshdogra, in that way is easier request to other to reproduce the issue or how to follow |
| 19:06 | aneeshdogra, i am worried we are out of time now..... | |
| 19:06 | aneeshdogra | gonzalo_: I'll try to do that tonight. |
| 19:07 | walterbender | is there anyone else here? |
| 19:08 | again, I want to thank everyone for their work this summer | |
| 19:08 | aneeshdogra | walterbender: Thanks! |
| 19:08 | walterbender | don't forget to upload your work and write your evals next week |
| 19:09 | martian_, I need to run an errand... back in an hour? | |
| 19:09 | aneeshdogra | gonzalo_: I'll commit the code I have right now (the recording export one). Can you review? |
| 19:09 | martian_ | ok |
| 19:10 | aneeshdogra | and probably see if you find something flagrant <- gonzalo_ |
| 19:10 | martian_ | walterbender, ill be on gtalk |
| 19:11 | gonzalo_ | aneeshdogra, please prepare a testcase, is very probable we will need ask to the csound guys |
| 19:12 | aneeshdogra | gonzalo_: Okay will do. |
| 19:12 | gonzalo_ | aneeshdogra, you can use the sound examples in pyppy as a base |
| 19:12 | aneeshdogra | Alright. |
| 19:12 | gonzalo_ | the random sound by example |
| 19:12 | aneeshdogra | gonzalo_: I have some questions. |
| 19:13 | gonzalo_: the minimal test case just plays a sound and records it? | |
| 19:13 | gonzalo_ | aneeshdogra, yes |
| 19:13 | aneeshdogra | gonzalo_: alrighty! I'll have it ready by tonight. |
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