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| 18:05 | walterbender | hi all |
| 18:05 | sorry I am late | |
| 18:05 | puneet_kaur | hi |
| 18:05 | gp94 | hi |
| 18:05 | prasoon2211_ | hello |
| 18:06 | walterbender | thanks all for getting your mid-term evals written |
| 18:06 | everyone passed :) | |
| 18:06 | puneet_kaur, would you please give an update on your week? | |
| 18:06 | puneet_kaur | yup sure :-) |
| 18:06 | it has been a great one indeed .. | |
| 18:07 | got through with the major chunk of the cli portion :-) | |
| 18:07 | we can now use the cordova cli to create a .xo from the web stuff ! | |
| 18:07 | have given the code to lionel to check | |
| 18:07 | he is quite busy .. | |
| 18:07 | so would revert back soon | |
| 18:07 | probably :-) | |
| 18:08 | now the task ahead is to | |
| 18:08 | get through the plugin support too | |
| 18:08 | and develop plugins if got time | |
| 18:08 | thats it walterbender :-) | |
| 18:09 | walterbender ^ | |
| 18:09 | walterbender | looking good |
| 18:09 | needs to fiure out how to run all of this on his phone | |
| 18:10 | thx puneet_kaur | |
| 18:10 | puneet_kaur | :-) |
| 18:10 | walterbender | gp94, next up? |
| 18:10 | gp94 | okay |
| 18:11 | got my laptop broken since last week have given it to repair, luckily native93 has bought a new laptop and hw would spare me his old one... | |
| 18:11 | that solved the big problem | |
| 18:11 | couldn't work much due it :( | |
| 18:11 | as soon as i get hold of the laptop, i will work on read and imageviewer | |
| 18:12 | walterbender | gp94, everything was on github I hope |
| 18:12 | gp94 | somehow recovered the files that i worked on... |
| 18:12 | walterbender | gp94, in this case, the cloud is your friend |
| 18:12 | push early and often | |
| 18:13 | gp94 | yes sure |
| 18:13 | i will push them soon | |
| 18:13 | walterbender | +1 |
| 18:13 | I guess we can move on to prasoon2211_ next | |
| 18:13 | prasoon2211_ | yes |
| 18:14 | okay, so, I was working on deployment this whole week | |
| 18:14 | I've made a detailed report on the blog of course | |
| 18:14 | anyway | |
| 18:14 | I asked paul for some server space and his reply was a bit late in coming | |
| 18:14 | so, I just started using an ec2 instance | |
| 18:15 | the problwm was this: | |
| 18:15 | walterbender | He was waiting on the sysadm at OLPC AU |
| 18:15 | prasoon2211_ | oh okay |
| 18:15 | anyway | |
| 18:15 | walterbender | I think it is happening soon |
| 18:15 | prasoon2211_ | discourse uses docker based images |
| 18:15 | and we're using a bit of a modified version of it | |
| 18:16 | so, no docker images available | |
| 18:16 | walterbender | is not familiar with "docker-based images" |
| 18:16 | prasoon2211_ | Think of it like a VM |
| 18:16 | walterbender | asks the google |
| 18:16 | prasoon2211_ | just much lighter |
| 18:17 | Anyway, I messed around quite a bit | |
| 18:17 | asked the discourse devs | |
| 18:17 | and after a lot of 'why-won't-you-work' moments | |
| 18:17 | it did finally work | |
| 18:18 | walterbender | nice |
| 18:18 | prasoon2211_ | Now, we have a clear way of easily deploying our custom version of disocurse |
| 18:18 | also, I had a couple problems with the email sending | |
| 18:18 | that's fixed too | |
| 18:18 | walterbender | sounds like a productive week |
| 18:18 | prasoon2211_ | I sent paul a link and he gave me a few suggestions |
| 18:19 | not really :P | |
| 18:19 | walterbender | prasoon2211_, can you share the link with us too? |
| 18:19 | prasoon2211_ | it was mostly tearing out my hair because things didn't work |
| 18:19 | yeah surte | |
| 18:19 | 54.187.40.150 | |
| 18:19 | it's a tesing rig though | |
| 18:20 | so no questions | |
| 18:20 | also, a few warnings | |
| 18:20 | 1. Email is *slow* | |
| 18:20 | (like you'll maybe waiting 15 minutes) | |
| 18:20 | 2. The ec2 instance is *tiny* | |
| 18:20 | so, the site work soewhat slow too | |
| 18:21 | 3. FB, twitter auth does not work because I haven't created fb/twitter app for social help | |
| 18:21 | I'll do that once we have a fixed domain name | |
| 18:21 | walterbender | so there is some work to do... |
| 18:21 | prasoon2211_ | yes |
| 18:21 | This week, I'll be working on db migrations | |
| 18:21 | so that | |
| 18:22 | newer instances of social help | |
| 18:22 | specially in the no-internet regions | |
| 18:22 | can be easily cloned from the main server | |
| 18:23 | and we need to adjust the font size a bit, too | |
| 18:23 | XO is very high DPI so things get a bit too small | |
| 18:23 | that's it, I suppose for this week | |
| 18:24 | walterbender ^ | |
| 18:24 | walterbender | prasoon2211_, let's plan to grab some time with Paul -- the three of us -- sometime early next week. |
| 18:24 | prasoon2211_ | hmm, okay |
| 18:25 | whenever you say - I'm at home most of the week | |
| 18:25 | so I'll be free | |
| 18:26 | walterbender | prasoon2211_, ping paul and ask for a time |
| 18:26 | who is next? martian_ ? | |
| 18:26 | martian_ | yes |
| 18:26 | prasoon2211_ | walterbender: sure. will let you know |
| 18:26 | I'm logging off then. Good day/night folks! | |
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| 18:26 | martian_ | this week, I was working on exporting models |
| 18:27 | so that they can be imported in other modelling softwares | |
| 18:27 | and also opengl like graphics api's | |
| 18:28 | walterbender | have you got anything I can test yet? |
| 18:28 | martian_ | sorry, not yet :/ |
| 18:28 | I'm a bit stuck | |
| 18:28 | i'm exporting in wavefront .obj format | |
| 18:29 | which is pretty simple and standard | |
| 18:29 | walterbender | are you stuck finding the data to export or the export itself? |
| 18:29 | martian_ | the export part |
| 18:29 | I'm working on it | |
| 18:29 | walterbender | martian_, I am happy to help |
| 18:30 | martian_ | the data isn't being written onto file |
| 18:30 | walterbender | martian_, paste the code and I will look after the meeting |
| 18:30 | martian_ | walterbender, okay |
| 18:31 | walterbender | I see that the get pitch block is working :) |
| 18:31 | martian_ | yes :) |
| 18:31 | I changed that too | |
| 18:31 | walterbender | any more example programs for me to look at? |
| 18:32 | martian_ | i haven't created more.. i will though shortly.. once i get this fixed |
| 18:32 | i will send you the paste | |
| 18:32 | walterbender | OK. also, put the current examples into samples/ |
| 18:33 | native93, do you want to update us next? | |
| 18:33 | martian_ | walterbender, sure |
| 18:33 | native93 | walterbender, sure .. |
| 18:33 | A week spent to link clipboard and FileTransfer .. | |
| 18:33 | I spent time in researching FileTransfer parameters, since it was new to me | |
| 18:33 | also figuring out how to send clipboard files through file transfer.. | |
| 18:33 | the five parameters - methods for passing data which I finally figured out, which functions linked from where | |
| 18:34 | getting and linking functions from clipboard object to FileTranfer was what took major portion of time .. | |
| 18:34 | now Outgoing file transfer for clipboard files can be coded :)... | |
| 18:34 | Though I have a question for incoming file tranfer .. | |
| 18:34 | also I coded the tagging part after suggestion by tch last week .. | |
| 18:35 | walterbender | native93, it is all a bit convoluted :) |
| 18:35 | native93 | walterbender, ohh ... |
| 18:36 | walterbender, so basically figured out how to send clipboard files through filetransfer | |
| 18:37 | walterbender | native93, nice work |
| 18:37 | native93, we are about to release Sugar v102 | |
| 18:37 | so we should be opening up v104 for new features | |
| 18:37 | hint hint | |
| 18:38 | native93 | walterbender, I know :P |
| 18:38 | walterbender, also for the incoming filetranfer .. | |
| 18:38 | *transfer | |
| 18:38 | walterbender | what was your question? |
| 18:39 | native93 | should I add any file incoming to the shared clipboard ? .. |
| 18:39 | may include those which were not sent from the shared clipboard of other user .. | |
| 18:40 | walterbender | I think you can leave it to the user to add them to the shared clipboard |
| 18:41 | until we get some more experience using bulletin board, it is hard to answer | |
| 18:41 | so keep it simple to start | |
| 18:41 | we can see what people do and what they might need | |
| 18:42 | native93 | it makes it simple then :) .. |
| 18:42 | walterbender | KISS |
| 18:42 | native93, let me know when I can do some more testing | |
| 18:42 | curiousguy13, can you give us an update? | |
| 18:43 | native93 | walterbender, will surely let you know once done with the outgoing file transfer :) |
| 18:44 | curiousguy13 | walterbender, yeah.. sure |
| 18:44 | This week i dealt with the sugar-build bugs. i spent quite some time figuring out the chroot problem. | |
| 18:44 | then i solved some other dependency issues and ported some of them to python3. | |
| 18:45 | i do have an issue with it though, these python packages like plog ,sourcestamp etc are downloaded from pip, so i have two options, | |
| 18:45 | either i could send PR to dnarvaez for python2/3 compatible changes and he could release the next version of those or i could somehow link my version with sugar-build so i have sent an e-mail to dnarvaez about this issue but i didn't get any response and till then i am figuring out how to link my versions of these packages to sugar-build. | |
| 18:45 | also side by side i did as many changes i could find in sugar-toolkit and looked at some of the sugar tests and how to write tests. | |
| 18:45 | walterbender, ^ | |
| 18:46 | walterbender | curiousguy13, did you try removing sugar-web? |
| 18:46 | so that it would alll build OK? | |
| 18:47 | puneet_kaur | why is sugar-web creating problems ? :o :o |
| 18:47 | walterbender | is worry that dnarvaez has gone missing |
| 18:47 | curiousguy13 | walterbender, but these packages are in the python3 site-packages , how would removing sugar-web solve it? |
| 18:48 | walterbender | puneet_kaur, it seems it not always building properly |
| 18:48 | gonzalo__ | the problems reported in sugar-devel mailing list look as connectivity issues |
| 18:48 | walterbender | gonzalo__, maybe |
| 18:48 | curiousguy13, In the short term, I think you should be make local changes to your branch | |
| 18:49 | once things are working well, then make PRs | |
| 18:49 | curiousguy13 | walterbender, okay, i guess |
| 18:51 | walterbender | anyone else around? |
| 18:59 | I guess we are done. thanks all | |
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| 19:11 | walterbender | rparra, hello |
| 19:11 | can you tell us about your week? | |
| 19:12 | rparra | walterbender hello |
| 19:12 | yes sure | |
| 19:13 | this week I solved some issues that were spotted during our last meeting with tch | |
| 19:13 | our goal for midterm was to have the daemon code and a simple example, all in github | |
| 19:14 | I cleaned up and fixed some things, but both are available at sugarlistens and maze repositories in github now | |
| 19:14 | I also managed to add a deviceicon to add speech recognition engine to the homeview | |
| 19:15 | so you can say 'start maze' to open the Activity | |
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| 19:17 | walterbender | rparra, have you tried the FING Turtle Art plugin? |
| 19:17 | rparra | I'm meeting with tch again today to plan for the rest of the program, which includes integrating with Turtle |
| 19:17 | not yet | |
| 19:17 | walterbender | was looking at your code last week |
| 19:17 | rparra | will it help to achieve programming by voice commands, like we discussed previously |
| 19:17 | ? | |
| 19:18 | any tips on the code? | |
| 19:18 | walterbender | I am struggling with the idea of using voice to run the app or using voice in the app |
| 19:18 | in the case of Turtle, would be interesting to explore both | |
| 19:19 | but maybe separately | |
| 19:20 | rparra | they are in separate projects now. The core is in sugarlistens, here: https://github.com/rparrapy/sugarlistens |
| 19:20 | and integration for the home view is here | |
| 19:20 | https://github.com/rparrapy/sugar | |
| 19:20 | in the speech-recognition branch | |
| 19:21 | or what are you struggling with? | |
| 19:23 | walterbender | I am just struggling with what I think might be of interest to Turtle users |
| 19:24 | rparra | I understand, it can be challenging to define the commands and actions for a voice interface |
| 19:24 | but with Turtle, I think you are best suited person for the job :) | |
| 19:24 | we could start a discussion of the ideas in the mailing list, if you think it might be useful | |
| 19:24 | walterbender | if we want the user to be able use voice reco in their turtle program, they need a vocabulary to work with |
| 19:25 | we should get a discussion going and include Andres and Alan from FING | |
| 19:27 | rparra | I'm sorry, now I understand, FING is Facultad de Ingeniería? I think I know Andrés and I've been helping a little bit to the guys involved in their project for TurtleArt speech recognition |
| 19:27 | walterbender | yes.. i know :) |
| 19:28 | thank you for helping them | |
| 19:28 | rparra | I will start a thread in the mailing list and yes, a vocabulary is needed |
| 19:28 | maybe we can work on the valid commands together | |
| 19:28 | I think I got kind of lost in translation | |
| 19:28 | walterbender | it would be interesting to have an app to let kids build vocabularies |
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| 19:30 | rparra | I that's a nice idea too, it could be useful even for developers |
| 19:30 | * I think | |
| 19:32 | walterbender | could even be a Turtle app :) |
| 19:35 | rparra | I'll be getting more acquinted with TurtleArt for sure, tch has told me that TurtleArt integration will probably be our main goal for the rest of the program |
| 19:35 | could you point me towards the FING plugin? | |
| 19:36 | walterbender | rparra, one sec /me looks |
| 19:37 | http://www.fing.edu.uy/inco/pr[…]de_voz_en_tortuga | |
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| 19:40 | rparra | seems like the made a lot of progress, awesome. We have discussed with tch previously about the possibility of having a new "speech" block, that would wait for user input when the program is run |
| 19:41 | and the behavior of the program would change according to the recognized command | |
| 19:41 | do you think something like that is feasible? | |
| 19:41 | walterbender | yes |
| 19:41 | rparra | it would be a sort of dynamic block |
| 19:41 | walterbender | and I have had requests from users for such a block |
| 19:42 | rparra | that was one of the ideas we have been discussing |
| 19:42 | walterbender | would be simple to use with the if/then/else block |
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| 19:44 | rparra | good news |
| 19:44 | walterbender | rparra: we could use the reco block with the load block to write turtle programs to: self-modifying code |
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| 19:45 | rparra | yes, that's the idea, the reco block could act like a wildcard, a block with dynamic behavior |
| 19:46 | walterbender | that is a nice idea |
| 19:46 | question: does the block block? or just return None is nothing is said? | |
| 19:47 | prefers the latter | |
| 19:48 | rparra | really? may I ask why? intuitively (with little Turtle knowledge) I was leaning towards the former option |
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| 19:58 | rparra | walterbender sorry to interrupt, but I have to get going to meet with tch |
| 19:58 | walterbender | rparra, it is easy to write a loop |
| 19:59 | rparra, I need to get back to some things anyway | |
| 19:59 | ttyl | |
| 19:59 | rparra | traffic in Asunción at this time is madness |
| 19:59 | I will create the thread we discussed about | |
| 19:59 | ttyl | |
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