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17:56 | walterbender | hi all |
17:57 | gp94 | hi |
17:57 | martian_ | walterbender, hi |
17:57 | puneet_kaur | hey |
17:57 | native93 | hi |
18:00 | curiousguy13 | hi, everyone! |
18:00 | walterbender | hi |
18:00 | shall we get started? | |
18:00 | gp94, want to tell us about your week? | |
18:01 | gp94 | walterbender: ok |
18:01 | prasoon2211_ <prasoon2211_!0e8b5206![]() |
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18:01 | gp94 | this week wrote the basic tests for terminal, simillar to the ones for log |
18:01 | need help on giving user input | |
18:01 | just sent a mail to devel lists | |
18:02 | tried finding more on sending input to the ui elements, but things didn't work out well... | |
18:02 | need to talk to dnarvaez, he may more because he has written all the funcitons that are being used currently | |
18:03 | may *know more | |
18:03 | walterbender | gp94, Alas, I have not been able to reach him either |
18:03 | gp94, let's hope someone on the list can help | |
18:03 | gp94 | walterbender: hope so...that |
18:03 | that's it for this week | |
18:04 | walterbender | or we can try the gnome irc channel |
18:04 | gp94, my apologies for the lack of support | |
18:04 | gp94 | next week will try to play with imageviewer and read... |
18:04 | and try to get the user input... | |
18:04 | i will try the gnome irc.... | |
18:04 | walterbender | gp94, may as well push on all the non-UI stuff while you are stalled |
18:05 | thanks gp94 -- puneet_kaur, can you please tell us about your week? | |
18:06 | puneet_kaur | yes sure |
18:06 | gp94 | walterbender: need to consult someone, to know more on the non-UI stuff,if I get stuck will write more on teststing guide and the detailed posts for the activitywise... |
18:06 | puneet_kaur | This week has been mostly for analyzing what we have done so far and how it fits in the big picture.So basically I need to deliver a detailed documentation to Lionel.We had been focusing on coding till now keeping in mind the project and it goals and discovered new things as we proceed.We could have gone that way but Lionel said its better to first jot down all we need to do and then proceed.This was so because we used to discover new things |
18:06 | each week ;) :P So he suggested to keep this week for exploring more and analyzing what done and writing down a detailed documentation to be submit to him, I need to prepare a google doc and share with him which he would then revise if required. | |
18:06 | I had prepared a summary already :D | |
18:07 | walterbender | sounds like a prudent approach |
18:07 | puneet_kaur | yup |
18:07 | walterbender | gp94, ^^ I think people in devel can help on the non-UI stuff |
18:07 | puneet_kaur, any roadblocks? | |
18:07 | puneet_kaur | nop not really |
18:08 | walterbender | good |
18:08 | puneet_kaur | hope we dont face any any in future |
18:09 | walterbender | puneet_kaur, BTW, gonzalo_ is working on an accelerometer for Maze (Python version). The JS version could be another fun play ground for your work |
18:09 | puneet_kaur | wow .. |
18:09 | thats a good news | |
18:10 | walterbender | martian_, wanna update the group? |
18:10 | martian_ | sure |
18:10 | Turtle art 3D has started to take shape | |
18:10 | I introduced the set_xyz block | |
18:11 | walterbender | just made another test program he'll share with you |
18:11 | martian_ | which takes 3 args x,y,z, projects on 2D and positions the turtle there |
18:11 | this can be checked here: | |
18:11 | https://github.com/Anubhav-J/turtleart | |
18:12 | I faced a little problem with the different coordinate system used in TA | |
18:12 | but was finally able to resolve it making some changes | |
18:13 | A screenshot of a cube drawn with its help: | |
18:13 | http://web.iiit.ac.in/~anubhav[…]iswal/cube_ta.png | |
18:13 | I have started working on rotation about axes | |
18:13 | which is the next step | |
18:15 | walterbender | martian_, just sent you another test program :P |
18:15 | any questions? issues? | |
18:16 | martian_ | walterbender, not yet |
18:16 | walterbender | martian_, I had one thought just now: we should make the pen size change based on the distance from the camera |
18:17 | but let's do rotation first | |
18:17 | native93, next? | |
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18:17 | native93 | sure |
18:17 | martian_ | walterbender, Im amazed by the way you experiment :) |
18:18 | just saw the file you sent | |
18:18 | native93 | so this week finalized the chat channel a bit early as planned as scheduled, had to travel to my hometown .. |
18:18 | walterbender | native93, I apologize for not testing it yet |
18:19 | native93 | next .. I focussed on looking at the previous bugs and spent a day to look at it and solved the roundbox one .. |
18:19 | walterbender, no problem .. I am going ahead with other things .. we can test it whenever you get time .. | |
18:19 | walterbender | has a roundbox bug in the Chat activity :P |
18:20 | native93 | ohh. same bug > |
18:20 | ? | |
18:20 | walterbender | maybe related. |
18:20 | native93 | ohh.. eager to know :P |
18:20 | walterbender | I'm using my own roundbox that uses Cairo |
18:21 | but the positioning and sizing is broken | |
18:21 | I | |
18:21 | will let you know when I have it working | |
18:21 | native93 | sure .. |
18:21 | also | |
18:21 | there are two things I am planning to complete this week | |
18:22 | the proper layout of boxes within the screen size and make it draggable .. | |
18:22 | walterbender | that is important |
18:22 | native93 | I am almost finished with the first one though was caught up with an issue |
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18:23 | walterbender | native93, this will be a nice addition |
18:24 | native93 | issue - creating fixed size textview .. it may seem easy .. but dosen't work the same way .. so after spending the whole day on google .. |
18:24 | i finally got some some help on pygtk irc .. it was some issue from gtk2 - gtk3 porting .. | |
18:25 | now will proceed with making it draggable :) | |
18:25 | walterbender | curious... could be related to my bug too |
18:25 | speaking of curious, curiousguy13 is next :) | |
18:26 | native93 | haha :D ... |
18:26 | curiousguy13 | haha .. sure |
18:26 | so in the beginning of this week, i had some trouble with my virtual OS , and even after searching around i couldn't find a solution so i had to reinstall the OS and set up the development environment again. | |
18:26 | then i went to port sugar-build to python3 . i tried it but i faced some problems regarding the handling of strings in python3. so, i read up on it and then tried again. | |
18:26 | at last i could figure out the problems and finally sugar-build has been ported to python3 , i am testing it out now. | |
18:26 | walterbender | breaks things all the time |
18:26 | curiousguy13 | the only problem here is that there are no tests written for sugar-build afaik , so i have to test it by executing all the commands which is taking some time. |
18:27 | walterbender | but it is nice progress |
18:27 | maybe gp94 can help you write some tests | |
18:28 | gp94 | walterbender: i could chip in... |
18:28 | walterbender | thx |
18:28 | curiousguy13, anything else we can help with? | |
18:28 | what are your next steps? | |
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18:29 | curiousguy13_ | oh.. sorry about that |
18:30 | walterbender | curiousguy13, what are your next steps? |
18:30 | curiousguy13_ | did i miss something? |
18:30 | walterbender | just my question |
18:30 | curiousguy13_ | i'll update my git repo with the new sugar-build and will try to write about the problems i faced along the way and their solutions in my next blog. |
18:30 | next , i'll deal with the dependency issue of telepathy | |
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18:31 | curiousguy13_ | as discussed in the mailing list, i'll try to use gobject introspection instead of telepathy |
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18:31 | walterbender | curiousguy13_, will be a good challenge |
18:31 | curiousguy13 | yeah |
18:31 | i'll try my best | |
18:32 | walterbender | curiousguy13, for Sugar 104 I'm interested in exploring a few new collaboration mechanisms... |
18:32 | but that won't impact you in the short term | |
18:32 | anyone else here from GSoC? | |
18:33 | no Jade; no Aneesh | |
18:33 | curiousguy13 | ok |
18:33 | native93 | walterbender, the bug was if you specify the size of textview(in my case) by set_size_request() in gtk3 .. it's not going to make it fixed as in gtk2 ... the guys at irc didn't believe unless he tested himself :P .. so the solution which we came up was wrapping it up in a Gtk.Fixed() container in gtk3 ... seems like Gtk.Fixed promotes gtk3 :P |
18:34 | walterbender | native93, I'll try that in my code too... because my size requests are not being honored either :( |
18:35 | native93 | walterbender, it troubled me for the whole day :P |
18:35 | walterbender | everyone, thanks for the updates |
18:35 | gp94 | walterbender: just one thing, what does non-UI stuff mean? do you mean writing unit tests...a little confused... |
18:35 | walterbender | and please keep your blogs up to date |
18:35 | gp94, I mean that you can test the non-UI stuff in most of the activiites while we wait for help on the UI bits | |
18:36 | gp94 | ok now i get it... |
18:37 | walterbender | any other questions/comments for today? |
18:37 | oh. prasoon2211_ is here | |
18:37 | prasoon2211_, could you give us an update please? | |
18:37 | prasoon2211_ | uh hi |
18:38 | one second | |
18:38 | well, there's precious little for me to report for this week. | |
18:38 | I've made the entry on the blog so you can read it for more details. | |
18:38 | anyway | |
18:38 | after making sure that the social-help activity was working smoothly with the shortcut, I started on the problem of populating the registration form using WebKit and by pickign up data from the suugar shell | |
18:39 | A lot of documentation and several google searches later, I concluded that this cannot be done. Webkit is just a renderer and cannot affect the elements displauyed, as I'd have liked (something like populating data with jquery) | |
18:39 | walterbender | was just reading your blog :P |
18:39 | prasoon2211_ | After that, there was the automatic login problem - this I've discussed on the blog in detail, so probably it shoulod be read from there. |
18:39 | Then, I had to go on a 3 day break, away from civilization :D | |
18:40 | walterbender | prasoon2211_, maybe tch can help with this issue |
18:40 | prasoon2211_ | Anyway, later I decided to email Paul (my mentor) with the details and a couple of questions about the UI/UX of the whole activity. |
18:40 | nah | |
18:40 | It's not possible | |
18:40 | that much I'm certain | |
18:40 | In fact | |
18:40 | some friends have told me that what I want to do is a security issue | |
18:40 | *giving browser access to the filesystem | |
18:40 | walterbender | prasoon2211_, discuss it with tch nonetheless |
18:41 | prasoon2211_ | okay |
18:41 | walterbender | we can work out something in parallel with webkit perhaps |
18:41 | prasoon2211_ | anyway |
18:41 | hmm | |
18:41 | well, Paul told me that | |
18:41 | walterbender | through the webservices mechanism we have |
18:41 | prasoon2211_ | there are plans to have an online database of XO users |
18:42 | gonzalo_ | prasoon2211_, yes, the login could be adressed with the webservices |
18:42 | prasoon2211_ | hmm, I'll check |
18:42 | gonzalo_ | prasoon2211_, you can inject javascript in webkit too |
18:42 | prasoon2211_ | gonzalo_: I actually want to populate a form |
18:42 | much like qith jquery | |
18:42 | *with | |
18:42 | I couldn't find anything on it | |
18:43 | but maybe | |
18:43 | walterbender | prasoon2211_, http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/WebServices |
18:43 | prasoon2211_ | with javascript insertion, iit may be possinle |
18:43 | I'll read it up | |
18:43 | gonzalo_ | prasoon2211_, can i ask you a question? |
18:44 | prasoon2211_ | yes |
18:44 | gonzalo_ | you plan provide help related to the activity the user is running like we do with the Help in 0.102? |
18:45 | prasoon2211_ | yes |
18:45 | except it's a community thing | |
18:45 | like SO | |
18:46 | why do you ask? | |
18:46 | gonzalo_ | ok, maybe you can look at how we are doing in sugar/extensions/globalkey/viewhelp.py to identify what activity is on use |
18:46 | prasoon2211_ | yes, I'm doing it exactly like that |
18:46 | gonzalo_ | ah, perfect :) |
18:47 | prasoon2211_ | I've made a new file, viewsocial.py |
18:47 | with much the same stuff | |
18:47 | anyway | |
18:47 | getting on with the report | |
18:47 | So, I've been writing CSS | |
18:48 | Paul had a few things to say about the activity itself - we should be trimming unnecessary features from it. Also, he had a few thoughts on the login problem that I mentioned earlier (more in the blog). | |
18:48 | Anyway, Paul's moving his home so he's busy till this week ends. After, he'll tell me more on how the styling should be like. | |
18:48 | Until then, I'm just experimenting out some odd CSS here and there, seeing what looks good and what doesn't. | |
18:48 | walterbender | prasoon2211_, I am sure he'll have lots of suggestions there |
18:48 | prasoon2211_ | yes he said he'll reply on mainday |
18:48 | *monday | |
18:49 | walterbender | but it sounds like good progress |
18:49 | prasoon2211_ | It's tedious work - nothing to do really, just try out differrent colours and see what looks good. |
18:49 | walterbender | prasoon2211_, get the plumbing working :) |
18:49 | prasoon2211_ | Maybe what you've told me about the webactivity setup will be good thing to do :) |
18:49 | gonzalo_ | prasoon2211_, on suga3/activity/webactivity.py you can see a example of how inject javascript |
18:49 | prasoon2211_ | gonzalo_: oh okay |
18:50 | So, I guess I'll be taking a look into the webactivity setup for a bit and then get back to UI. I'm also consulting on this with a senior from my school who's a great designer so maybe that'll help. | |
18:50 | that's it for this week, though | |
18:51 | walterbender | +1 |
18:51 | we need more designers | |
18:51 | prasoon2211_ | well, he'll only give me a few odd hours at best |
18:51 | :) | |
18:51 | he's in a job nwow | |
18:51 | and doesn't really do opens source much | |
18:51 | walterbender | maybe he'll get hooked |
18:51 | prasoon2211_ | so ... |
18:51 | :D | |
18:52 | oh well | |
18:52 | good day/night folks. I'll be leaving now | |
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18:52 | walterbender | thanks for the updates |
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19:11 | walterbender | hi rparra |
19:12 | rparra | walterbender hi, how are you? |
19:13 | walterbender | rparra, good... |
19:13 | making a lot of trouble for tch | |
19:13 | rparra | haha, same thing tch does for me (kidding) |
19:15 | walterbender | any progress to report this week? |
19:16 | rparra | yes, sure. I have a basic example working, with pocketsphinx + gstreamer + dbus. First I made a basic example with a plain GTK window in Fedora, and it worked |
19:16 | but I'm having some trouble sugarizing my example | |
19:16 | particularly, D-Bus calls are not reaching my Activity for some reason | |
19:17 | I'm currently debugging the issue, after this blocker is done, code is going to github | |
19:17 | walterbender | rparra, hmm |
19:18 | rparra | I was planning to review my code with tch today, to see if we can squash this nasty little bug |
19:18 | walterbender | good luck |
19:18 | let me know how it goes | |
19:18 | rparra | I will, hopefully I can publish the basic example (with instructions to run it) very soon |
19:19 | walterbender | rparra, I am looking forward to it (and using it in Turtle) |
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