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| 17:46 | walterbender | is everyone ready to begin GSoC next week? |
| 17:46 | puneet_kaur | yup :-) |
| 17:47 | have discussed with Lionel how to go about | |
| 17:48 | and have started some initial work | |
| 17:50 | martian_ | walterbender, hi |
| 17:50 | walterbender | martian_, how are you? |
| 17:50 | martian_ | walterbender, im great |
| 17:50 | saw your pics of kathmandu | |
| 17:51 | you had a great time? | |
| 17:51 | walterbender | it was great... but I caught some bug on the way back home... I am under the weather |
| 17:52 | martian_ | walterbender, well i needed to discuss a few things |
| 17:52 | walterbender | ok |
| 17:55 | martian_ | i spent the the week trying to find how to render an opengl scene into a gtk window |
| 17:56 | it is simpler to create independent opengl programs | |
| 17:56 | but to embed it into a gtk window isnt that easy | |
| 17:56 | walterbender | martian_, we'll have to figure that out |
| 17:56 | martian_ | i have came across this library which can help us |
| 17:57 | https://projects.gnome.org/gtkglext/ | |
| 17:57 | this does the underlying work needed to embed the scene into gtk | |
| 17:58 | walterbender | looks like exactly what we need |
| 17:58 | martian_ | and provides an API we can directly use for our purpose |
| 17:58 | walterbender | will have to read it in detail |
| 17:58 | martian_ | luckily it has python bindings |
| 17:59 | here: https://github.com/GNOME/pygtkglext | |
| 17:59 | walterbender | nice |
| 17:59 | gtk2 or gtk3? | |
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| 18:00 | gp94 | hello :) sorry I couldn't attend the previous meetings, was travelling to home... |
| 18:01 | for the project i have talked to daniel | |
| 18:01 | martian_ | walterbender, well the requirements say gtk2 |
| 18:01 | should have no problem with gtk3 | |
| 18:01 | walterbender | martian_, we may as well make Turtle 3D be gtk3 |
| 18:01 | will make your life easier | |
| 18:01 | I can help with the conversion | |
| 18:02 | just some plugins won't work but they are not important for Turtle 3D | |
| 18:02 | martian_, this looks really old | |
| 18:03 | 2004 | |
| 18:03 | maybe we need to keep looking | |
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| 18:06 | walterbender | martian_, maybe ask on the gnome irc channel? |
| 18:06 | martian_ | walterbender, yes, hasnt been maintained |
| 18:06 | walterbender | martian_, we don't want to maintain something so old |
| 18:07 | there must be a better way | |
| 18:07 | native93 | hi walter |
| 18:08 | walterbender | martian_, irc.gnome.org |
| 18:08 | #gnome | |
| 18:08 | hi native93 | |
| 18:08 | martian_, see what you can find out | |
| 18:09 | martian_ | walterbender, I will ask around and drop a mail on list |
| 18:09 | walterbender | martian_, +1 |
| 18:09 | native93 | walterbender, will begin the coding of UI .. |
| 18:10 | I had a discussion with dnarvaez too | |
| 18:11 | I will add a toggle button .. in the frame .. sugar/src/jarabe/frame/ | |
| 18:11 | walterbender | what is the toggle button for? |
| 18:11 | curiousguy13 | hey everyone! |
| 18:11 | walterbender | hi curiousguy13 |
| 18:11 | native93 | for turning the board on or off |
| 18:11 | for an activity .. | |
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| 18:13 | native93 | I had a discussion with you regarding this .. you said to begin with sugar-toolkit-gtk3 for designing an UI ... |
| 18:15 | walterbender | native93, I think we could add a menu item to the activities on the frame, perhaps? |
| 18:15 | we need some sketches | |
| 18:15 | curiousguy13 | walterbender: hey, after the mailing list discussions, the strategy for porting seems clear but i won't actually be able to start as my final exams start this monday. |
| 18:15 | walterbender | curiousguy13, how long are your exams? |
| 18:16 | curiousguy13 | walterbender: till 29th :/ |
| 18:16 | native93 | walterbender, in the toolbar ? |
| 18:16 | walterbender | native93, yes... each activity has a presence on the toolbar |
| 18:16 | with a menu palette | |
| 18:16 | curiousguy13 | walterbender: but no need to worry, i plan to complete the project much before the deadlines |
| 18:17 | walterbender | curiousguy13, OK |
| 18:17 | curiousguy13 | walterbender: thanks for understanding :) |
| 18:18 | walterbender | native93, since the overlay is activity specific, it seems to make sense to add it to the activity palette |
| 18:18 | native93 | then probably we need more sketches |
| 18:18 | http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/F[…]ulletin-board.jpg | |
| 18:19 | in this sketch .. the toggle button seems to be on the panel .. | |
| 18:20 | walterbender | native93, on the old OLPC XO, there was a keyboard key dedicated to this |
| 18:20 | I suppose we can try it and move it if we don't like it | |
| 18:21 | but frame space can be tight on small displays | |
| 18:21 | puneet_kaur | walterbender, my project would be hardware centric as it proceeds , initially developing the basic layer but need to test a few hardware features too, but I fear I dont have an xo here.. |
| 18:22 | native93 | yeah .. there is a problem with frame space . |
| 18:22 | walterbender | puneet_kaur, hmm. well, it should work on any netbook |
| 18:22 | not just the XO | |
| 18:22 | native93 | and if there's a dedicated key for it .. then it's nice ! |
| 18:22 | puneet_kaur | accelerometer not working on my laptop |
| 18:23 | so what to do ? | |
| 18:23 | walterbender | puneet_kaur, we may need to help you with testing of some of the hardware |
| 18:23 | puneet_kaur | ok |
| 18:23 | walterbender | but your general framework should be OK on any hardware |
| 18:23 | puneet_kaur | ok |
| 18:24 | native93 | walterbender, and since it is activity specific |
| 18:25 | so it will have to be included in each activity .. so which activity should I start this testing on .. | |
| 18:26 | and also .. then I have to design the rectangular panel . and it would be different from the sketch given .. | |
| 18:26 | walterbender | native93, you should not have to write any activity-specific code... should be in the toolkit |
| 18:26 | native93, but maybe start with Paint as an example | |
| 18:27 | gp94 | walterbender: hey :) I have written the test for hello-world (need to be pushed to g.sl.o, having some ssh/proxy issues,will resolve them asap and make a pr) , the ones for calculate were already written in GCI....currently working on finding the possible tests for terminal, log and imageviewer...have the basic ones ( testing the toolbar and buttons in the |
| 18:27 | acitivity) to be written for the latter but haven't had any elaborate ones for them, will discuss about it with daniel and work accordingly... | |
| 18:27 | walterbender | gp94, +1 |
| 18:28 | native93 | walterbender, hmm . probably we can improve on it once a basic layout of the panel is complete .. |
| 18:29 | walterbender | native93, yes |
| 18:29 | native93, let's get something working that we can react to | |
| 18:30 | native93 | walterbender, hmm .. ready to start next week :) |
| 18:31 | walterbender | looking forward to it |
| 18:33 | martian_ | walterbender, just curious |
| 18:33 | walterbender | ... |
| 18:33 | martian_ | what issues would we face if we use gtkglext |
| 18:34 | walterbender | martian_, well, old gtk2 libraries... not maintainable in the long run |
| 18:34 | I need to finish the port to GTK3 | |
| 18:34 | just need to finish up some gstreamer stuff | |
| 18:34 | we really cannot be carrying libraries from 8-10 years ago | |
| 18:36 | martian_ | walterbender, i agree |
| 18:38 | walterbender | martian_, but if it is a way to get started, we could try it... but ask on the gnome channel... someone should know |
| 18:39 | martian_ | walterbender, im looking everywhere :) |
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| 18:39 | martian_ | I have found something |
| 18:39 | walterbender, take a look: http://faq.pygtk.org/index.py?[…]ile=faq19.011.htp | |
| 18:41 | walterbender | 2012 |
| 18:41 | seems more contemporary | |
| 18:41 | maybe contact the author | |
| 18:43 | martian_ | seems right |
| 18:44 | here's something else that may be useful | |
| 18:45 | walterbender, http://modarnis.com/Articles/gtk_gl_python.html | |
| 18:45 | though uses gtkgl | |
| 18:49 | walterbender | yes... gtk2 |
| 18:49 | better than nothing | |
| 18:58 | martian_ | walterbender, well their list is active |
| 18:59 | walterbender | having trouble building pygtkgl |
| 18:59 | have you built it? | |
| 19:00 | martian_ | walterbender, yes |
| 19:00 | i installed from yum repo | |
| 19:00 | actually | |
| 19:01 | walterbender, https://www.mail-archive.com/g[…]org/msg00940.html | |
| 19:01 | rparra | hello everyone! |
| 19:02 | walterbender | martian_, encouraging |
| 19:02 | rparra, hi | |
| 19:02 | did you meet with tch ? | |
| 19:03 | rparra | yes, I have. In fact we have another meeting scheduled in a couple of hours :) |
| 19:06 | walterbender | rparra, give him my regards |
| 19:08 | rparra | walterbender, I'll do it for sure |
| 19:14 | walterbender | heads back to bed |
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