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| 22:59 | walterbender | hello everyone |
| 23:02 | meeting | * J_M_Garcia-es has joined |
| 23:02 | <J_M_Garcia-es> Hello! | |
| 23:03 | JMGarcia <JMGarcia!~webchatrev-18-85-44-69.sugarlabs.org> has joined #sugar-meeting |
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| 23:04 | walterbender | hi Jose Miguel |
| 23:04 | waiting for everyone else | |
| 23:04 | meeting | <J_M_Garcia-es> Hello Walter! |
| 23:04 | <J_M_Garcia-es> *OK | |
| 23:05 | walterbender | I will ping claudia |
| 23:05 | meeting | <J_M_Garcia-es> *Ok |
| 23:06 | olpcuser-eff9 <olpcuser-eff9!~urksfs-wifi-aruba-dhcp-130-212-140-27.sfsu.edu> has joined #sugar-meeting |
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| 23:07 | walterbender | olpcuser-eff9, is that you Gonzalo? |
| 23:07 | olpcuser-eff9 | hi walterbender, meeting ready? |
| 23:07 | walterbender | just waiting for Claudia, Daniel, and Chris |
| 23:08 | olpcuser-eff9 | walterbender: i am with Sameer here |
| 23:08 | i went to wikimedia offices in the morning | |
| 23:08 | lot of possibilities of collaboration | |
| 23:09 | walterbender | olpcuser-eff9, please give Sameer my regards |
| 23:09 | olpcuser-eff9 | ahh, yes, i am gonzalo |
| 23:09 | walterbender | hope you have been enjoying SF |
| 23:09 | ElVerma <ElVerma!~urksfs-wifi-dhcp-133-117.sfsu.edu> has joined #sugar-meeting |
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| 23:09 | olpcuser-eff9 | will join us too |
| 23:09 | olpcuser-eff9 is now known as Gonzalo | |
| 23:10 | ElVerma | Greetings from San Francisco! |
| 23:10 | walterbender | Gonzalo, FYI, I just submitted patches for max_participants |
| 23:10 | hi ElVerma | |
| 23:10 | meeting | <J_M_Garcia-es> Hello! |
| 23:11 | walterbender | Gonzalo, thanks for looking after our GCI wards |
| 23:11 | Gonzalo | walterbender: i saw, i hope can work more this night and tomorrow, this week was very difficult |
| 23:11 | walterbender | JMGarcia, ignacio from .UY was in SF this week |
| 23:11 | Gonzalo, I imagine you had very little free time | |
| 23:11 | it is OK | |
| 23:11 | Gonzalo | hola J_M_Garcia! |
| 23:11 | Claudia__ <Claudia__!~webchatrev-18-85-44-69.sugarlabs.org> has joined #sugar-meeting |
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| 23:11 | meeting | <J_M_Garcia-es> Ah! Excellent! |
| 23:12 | Claudia__ | Hello |
| 23:12 | Sorry to be late... computer crisis | |
| 23:12 | walterbender | ah... we have a quorum... let's get started |
| 23:12 | hi Claudia__ | |
| 23:12 | meeting | <J_M_Garcia-es> Hello! |
| 23:12 | walterbender | #start-meeting |
| 23:12 | meeting | Meeting started Thu Apr 17 23:12:23 2014 UTC. The chair is walterbender. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
| 23:12 | Claudia__ | hello |
| 23:12 | meeting | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #endmeeting |
| 23:12 | Gonzalo | hello Claudia! |
| 23:12 | walterbender | welcome everyone |
| 23:12 | finally we managed to meet this month | |
| 23:12 | Claudia__ | thanks.. hello everyone |
| 23:12 | walterbender | it has been very busy |
| 23:13 | let me start with a quick GSoC update | |
| 23:13 | Sugar Labs was awarded 9 slots | |
| 23:13 | it is a lot considering we have a small team | |
| 23:13 | Claudia__ | oh wow! |
| 23:13 | ElVerma | awesome! |
| 23:13 | walterbender | I assigned the preliminary set of mentor/student pairing today |
| 23:14 | ElVerma, wanna be a mentor? please please please? | |
| 23:14 | Gonzalo | walterbender: sameer is on the phone now |
| 23:14 | walterbender | we have Tony doing TurtleArt 3D (I will help) |
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| 23:14 | Gonzalo | walterbender: have we a chat with mentors scheduled? |
| 23:14 | walterbender | we have Gonzalo doing Music Suite |
| 23:15 | sdanielf | Hi all |
| 23:15 | ElVerma | I'd be happy to try :-) |
| 23:15 | walterbender | Gonzalo, not yet... I need to go to a GSoC meeting tomorrow and then I will organize it |
| 23:15 | meeting | <J_M_Garcia-es> Hello! Daniel! |
| 23:15 | walterbender | ElVerma, great... could use a few more hands |
| 23:16 | please sign up at https://www.google-melange.com[…]d/google/gsoc2014 | |
| 23:16 | sdanielf | got confused with the EST time |
| 23:16 | walterbender | and then request a role with Sugar Labs |
| 23:16 | ElVerma | walterbender, I'll ask gonzalo for a crash course on mentoring |
| 23:16 | Gonzalo | hi sdanielf |
| 23:16 | walterbender | sdanielf, it is very confusing with all the daylight savings |
| 23:16 | to continue | |
| 23:17 | Lionel will mentor a Javascript-related project | |
| 23:17 | Steve from Etoys will mentor a sensor project... a little far afield, but a nice project | |
| 23:18 | dnarvaez, will mentor a project for writing unit tests for activities | |
| 23:18 | I'll mentor the bulletin board project | |
| 23:18 | Paul Cotton from OLPC AU will mentor the sharing project | |
| 23:18 | Claudia__ | can unfinished projects be continued? |
| 23:18 | walterbender | and Sameer can mentor Python3 |
| 23:19 | Oh, Tincho is mentoring the speech IO project | |
| 23:19 | so good stuff | |
| 23:19 | Claudia__, you would be very welcome to work with Paul to help shape the project | |
| 23:20 | I'll write up more details in a Sugar Digest report over the next few days | |
| 23:20 | Claudia__ | walterbender: would the start from zero, or continue the project where it was left? |
| 23:20 | Gonzalo | walterbender: what is the sharing project? |
| 23:21 | sdanielf | I see many interesting features in the list |
| 23:21 | walterbender | Claudia__, I think we'll learn from the past but probably make a new effort using more off the shelf pieces |
| 23:21 | Gonzalo | walterbender: we need organize a mentors meeting |
| 23:21 | walterbender | I agree about a mentor's meeting |
| 23:21 | will be early next week (after Easter) | |
| 23:21 | Gonzalo | walterbender: do you already picked the students? |
| 23:22 | walterbender | the students get informed on Monday I think |
| 23:22 | Gonzalo, well, mostly | |
| 23:22 | Gonzalo | ok |
| 23:22 | walterbender | we can still make some last minute changes tonight |
| 23:22 | Gonzalo, I consulted with individual mentors about their preferences | |
| 23:23 | you can see the details in https://www.google-melange.com[…]d/google/gsoc2014 | |
| 23:23 | Gonzalo | walterbender: thanks for doing all this work, and sorry for not supporting more |
| 23:23 | walterbender | Gonzalo, the real work is about to begin |
| 23:23 | Gonzalo | i am trying to do a good job as embassador here |
| 23:23 | walterbender | meanwhile, gonzalo wrote up a nice trip report about GCI |
| 23:24 | and Manuq wrote up notes from the Paris Sugar Camp | |
| 23:24 | Claudia__ | Gonzalo: I am glad you manage to accompany the kids |
| 23:24 | walterbender | other things to note: |
| 23:24 | Gonzalo | Claudia__: was a very nice experience |
| 23:24 | walterbender | Claudia__, and I are writing a paper with Cynthia Solomon on Turtle Art |
| 23:25 | Bernie and I are running a Turtle Art Day in Nepal in May | |
| 23:25 | and I am giving the keynote at a big Telmex-sponsored conference in MX next weekend | |
| 23:26 | tch and gonzalo have prepared images of Sugar 102 for testing... it is looking really nice | |
| 23:26 | that is my news... | |
| 23:26 | but we have many other topics to discuss | |
| 23:26 | Gonzalo | walterbender: i have news to share |
| 23:27 | walterbender | please chime in (and then I would like to talk about the Youth Summit) |
| 23:27 | Gonzalo | great |
| 23:27 | meeting | <J_M_Garcia-es> If... |
| 23:27 | walterbender | Gonzalo, you have the floor |
| 23:27 | Gonzalo | i alkready reported about GCI, the other part I didnt reported yet, was the participation on OLPC SF meeting |
| 23:28 | and the talks we had with Sameer | |
| 23:28 | OLPC SF is interested in align more the October summit with sugarlabs | |
| 23:28 | maybe doing some hacking sessions | |
| 23:29 | also, we was thinking about bhow we (slobs) and the community can rethink/review our mission/vision | |
| 23:29 | with the change in situation of olpc | |
| 23:30 | this need more thinking, (and collab9rative thinking) | |
| 23:30 | walterbender | +1 |
| 23:30 | sdanielf | +1 |
| 23:30 | Gonzalo | I will write some mails to kick the ball |
| 23:30 | walterbender | ultimately Sugar is what the community make of it |
| 23:30 | Gonzalo | yes, but we need a direction |
| 23:30 | Claudia__ | sounds good |
| 23:30 | walterbender | I don't know if I have said to this group, but OLPC AU is very serious about building a new machine |
| 23:31 | I have been working with Wad (the lead engineer on the XO) on some preliminary designs | |
| 23:31 | it will be a Sugar machine | |
| 23:32 | ElVerma | if olpcsf is to stay relevant, we have to look beyond the XO, and see where Sugar takes us, be it another machine, a browser, or something else. |
| 23:32 | Claudia__ | +1 |
| 23:32 | Gonzalo | _really_ great, but that don't change the fact SugarLabs need rethink the future and have a more strategic work |
| 23:32 | walterbender | ElVerma, probably all three |
| 23:32 | ElVerma | fantastic! |
| 23:32 | Gonzalo | i had a meeting this morning with wikimedia education team |
| 23:32 | they are very interested in work with us, even founding specific projects | |
| 23:33 | walterbender | any topical areas? |
| 23:33 | meeting | <J_M_Garcia-es> Excellent! |
| 23:33 | Gonzalo | yes |
| 23:33 | they have material for teachers, to use wikipedia in class | |
| 23:33 | Claudia__ | yes, couse we need a resource page, as well as project sharing one |
| 23:33 | Gonzalo | are interested inb support different types of offline wikipedias (like us) |
| 23:34 | and are interested in get information about the use of wikipedia, that can be used with our metadata collectin | |
| 23:34 | (and can help us to improve wikipedia) | |
| 23:35 | walterbender | big topic |
| 23:35 | Gonzalo | also they can contact us with volunteers from specific languages to help us to curate the offline versions, that was a limitatiobn in the past to create the activities |
| 23:35 | meeting | <J_M_Garcia-es> In Uruguay is developing an important project of Wikipedia in Education |
| 23:35 | walterbender | IMHO, wikipedia can be a data repository as much as an article repository... lots of possibilities there |
| 23:36 | Gonzalo | J_M_Garcia, I would like to know more about that |
| 23:36 | walterbender | me too |
| 23:36 | meeting | <J_M_Garcia-es> It is a work with educational training, for *incentivar to the professors to the use of *wikipedia |
| 23:37 | Gonzalo | another topic we was discussing with ElVerma was the creation of library.sugarlas.org |
| 23:37 | meeting | <J_M_Garcia-es> They are increasing the quantity of *wikipedistas |
| 23:37 | sdanielf | I remember there were talks for teachers from the Wikipedia foundation |
| 23:37 | Gonzalo | olpc sf is woprking actively in the Pathagar server |
| 23:38 | walterbender | yes... I follow that project closely |
| 23:38 | Gonzalo | have a active i8nstance with curated material is a good idea for the smalll projects they sponsor too |
| 23:38 | we discused this many times, we only needed some brave to take the role :) | |
| 23:39 | finally, tomorow we will go to internet archive offices | |
| 23:39 | ElVerma | Gonzalo and I are headed to Internet Archive tomorrow to get some collaborative help from them. They've been very helpful with pathagar. archive.org likes OPDS projects :-) |
| 23:39 | Gonzalo | will see what can we doi :) |
| 23:39 | meeting | <J_M_Garcia-es> http://eduwiki.me |
| 23:39 | walterbender | give my regards to Brewster |
| 23:39 | ElVerma | walterbender, will do :-) |
| 23:40 | Gonzalo | i finished, questions? :) |
| 23:40 | walterbender | Jose Miguel: nice to see music as part of the program :) |
| 23:40 | Gonzalo, lots to think about | |
| 23:41 | Gonzalo | yes |
| 23:41 | walterbender | any comments for now? or shall we discuss the Youth Summit now? |
| 23:41 | Gonzalo | ahh, i forgot the creation of a sugarlabs youtube channel :) |
| 23:42 | walterbender | we have a DailyMotion channel almost unused for 4 years |
| 23:42 | Gonzalo | walterbender: please go |
| 23:42 | Claudia__ | Gonzalo: you sound excited.. thanks for being a great ambassador |
| 23:42 | walterbender | Gonzalo, your new videos are very nice |
| 23:42 | Gonzalo | walterbender: Daily MOtion? what is that? :) |
| 23:42 | walterbender | we need many many more |
| 23:42 | Claudia__ | I agree |
| 23:42 | walterbender | Gonzalo, an alternative to YouTube that supports ogv uploads |
| 23:42 | meeting | <J_M_Garcia-es> Of agreement! |
| 23:43 | Gonzalo | walterbender: yeah, was a joke :) |
| 23:43 | walterbender | didn't see the :) |
| 23:43 | long day :) | |
| 23:43 | and still a call to AU this evening | |
| 23:43 | sdanielf | What about storing videos in SL servers? |
| 23:43 | Gonzalo | sdanielf: the issue is how expose this to people |
| 23:44 | is like have our own git server or have github | |
| 23:44 | ElVerma | sdanielf, youtube is fo strategic importance from a visibility standpoint. Those who don't know about SL will be able to find out much more. |
| 23:44 | sdanielf | github is more a workflow advantage |
| 23:44 | Gonzalo | we need go where the people is, not pretend they will go to our place |
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| 23:45 | Gonzalo | well, a question is why we want publish videos, we want people see them? |
| 23:45 | hi cjl! | |
| 23:45 | sdanielf | Maybe Youtube will be a good way to post videos, but you'll need to post them in OGV format elsewere |
| 23:45 | cjl | hi Gonzalo |
| 23:45 | ElVerma | youtube does webm |
| 23:45 | Claudia__ | Gonzalo: +1 |
| 23:46 | ElVerma | can we playback webm? |
| 23:46 | Gonzalo | sdanielf: yeah, no problem with posting them in other place _too_ if somebody will do it |
| 23:46 | sdanielf | actually Youtube doesn't provide an official way to download them, that's less freedom |
| 23:47 | Gonzalo: I watched some of the videos you posted | |
| 23:47 | walterbender | I think we need to put things in many places |
| 23:47 | but we should move on to the Youth Summit | |
| 23:47 | Gonzalo | sdanielf: ok,, we can discuss this by mail, but we need think about _why_ we want publish videos, and find the way to achive that |
| 23:48 | walterbender | sdanielf, jose miguel: we need to start getting to the details |
| 23:48 | when/who/where | |
| 23:48 | sdanielf | walterbender: alright |
| 23:48 | Claudia__ | Youth summit? |
| 23:48 | walterbender | sdanielf, you should share the rms manifesto with SLOBs |
| 23:48 | meeting | <J_M_Garcia-es> *ANEP Has a lot of interest in doing it in Uruguay |
| 23:48 | walterbender | JMGarcia, I think that makes sense |
| 23:49 | meeting | <J_M_Garcia-es> ? |
| 23:49 | walterbender | would like to bring a few kids from .PY and maybe .AR |
| 23:49 | sdanielf | walterbender: I will transcribe last emails and share the updated document by email |
| 23:49 | meeting | <J_M_Garcia-es> If, we are arming a document, but need to know how many boys would be |
| 23:50 | walterbender | JMGarcia, we can be flexible... as many as we can budget |
| 23:50 | but we can set a precedent and grow the event over time | |
| 23:50 | meeting | <J_M_Garcia-es> We can transact the *estadía... |
| 23:50 | <J_M_Garcia-es> Of agreement... | |
| 23:50 | walterbender | the quantity and quality of youth contribution to Sugar continues to grow |
| 23:51 | amazing contributions to Sugar 102 | |
| 23:51 | meeting | <J_M_Garcia-es> There is interest in gathering to the youngsters, and also in exciting to others... |
| 23:51 | sdanielf | that are great news |
| 23:51 | is getting old | |
| 23:51 | walterbender | when should we do it? what is a good time considering the school year in Sur? |
| 23:52 | meeting | <J_M_Garcia-es> September or October would be well... |
| 23:52 | <J_M_Garcia-es> No further... | |
| 23:52 | walterbender | thinks he has a few years on the rest of you |
| 23:52 | let's try for September | |
| 23:52 | meeting | <J_M_Garcia-es> If |
| 23:52 | <J_M_Garcia-es> *Yes | |
| 23:53 | <J_M_Garcia-es> How many could come of other countries? 50? 100? | |
| 23:53 | Gonzalo | i would think 20-30? |
| 23:53 | meeting | <J_M_Garcia-es> We think in spaces of work and workshops advanced... |
| 23:54 | <J_M_Garcia-es> And also in spaces for novices | |
| 23:54 | Gonzalo | walterbender: what number are you pointing? |
| 23:54 | meeting | <J_M_Garcia-es> How many there is in Uruguay? |
| 23:54 | walterbender | JMGarcia, I think that number is too many |
| 23:54 | meeting | <J_M_Garcia-es> That they are working with *Sugar? |
| 23:55 | <J_M_Garcia-es> 30? | |
| 23:55 | walterbender | I think we could do that |
| 23:55 | Gonzalo | a bigger number is to difficult for a hands on event |
| 23:56 | meeting | <J_M_Garcia-es> *Ok |
| 23:56 | Gonzalo | we need think about how bring our 5 gci finalist there |
| 23:56 | meeting | <J_M_Garcia-es> They know how many youngsters are working with *SUgar in Uruguay? |
| 23:56 | Gonzalo | sdanielf: ? |
| 23:56 | 20? | |
| 23:57 | walterbender | Gonzalo, +1 |
| 23:57 | sdanielf | Python Joven can bring about 20 members |
| 23:57 | walterbender | maybe 10 from Caacupe |
| 23:57 | meeting | <J_M_Garcia-es> Here already they go 30... |
| 23:57 | <J_M_Garcia-es> Of other sides? | |
| 23:58 | Gonzalo | i think between 5 and 10, but willl depend on founding |
| 23:58 | meeting | <J_M_Garcia-es> Step afterwards by mail some ideas, to go concretising... |
| 23:59 | walterbender | I hope to renew the Trip Advisor grant |
| 23:59 | meeting | <J_M_Garcia-es> Then 50 it does not seem too much... |
| 23:59 | Gonzalo | i suppose w can ask olpc au, about sponsoring sam |
| 23:59 | meeting | <J_M_Garcia-es> 20 *UY, 10 *PY, 5 *gci finalists... |
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