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| 13:52 | <JoseMiguel-es> Hello! | |
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| 13:53 | JMGarcia | Hello |
| 13:55 | walterbender | hi JMGarcia |
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| 13:58 | walterbender | not sure we have a quorum today |
| 13:58 | claudia will be late | |
| 13:58 | meeting | <JoseMiguel-es> *Ok. |
| 13:58 | walterbender | I didn't hear back from gonzalo, chris, daniel or adam :P |
| 13:59 | I realize it is a holiday today | |
| 13:59 | but I thought we could discuss a few things informally | |
| 13:59 | meeting | <JoseMiguel-es> In Uruguay are on holiday! (Two days of Carnival) |
| 14:00 | walterbender | yes |
| 14:00 | meeting | <JoseMiguel-es> But I am accustomed. ;) 6 January also it was *feriado! ;) |
| 14:00 | walterbender | I just want to give a quick update re Google Summer of Code |
| 14:00 | and a few other topics | |
| 14:00 | meeting | <JoseMiguel-es> *Ok |
| 14:01 | walterbender | then maybe we can reschedule later in the week |
| 14:01 | As I said in an email last week, Sugar Labs was accepted again in Google Summer of Code | |
| 14:01 | we need to recruit students | |
| 14:02 | so please spread the word at the local universities | |
| 14:02 | I set up a page for applications: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/S[…]_of_Code/Template | |
| 14:02 | the students need to follow this template and sign up on the google site as well | |
| 14:04 | they have about 10 days to get the applications submitted | |
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| 14:04 | walterbender | hi gonzalo_odiard_ |
| 14:04 | gp94 | thanks..just one question, why are many merge requests pending in gitorious? |
| 14:04 | gonzalo_odiard_ | hello |
| 14:05 | walterbender | gonzalo_odiard_: I think we are lacking a quorum this moring |
| 14:06 | gonzalo_odiard_ | gp94, because we need review the work |
| 14:06 | walterbender, problems with freenode again? | |
| 14:06 | walterbender | Claudia has a conflict |
| 14:06 | she will be late | |
| 14:06 | I never heard back from cjl, adam, or daniel | |
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| 14:08 | gp94 | gonzalo_odiard_, ok i can see that there is a lot of work to be reviewed but since the merge requests not yet reviewed affect towards the chances for GsoC... |
| 14:08 | walterbender | Oh. Adam is here |
| 14:08 | so we have a quorum | |
| 14:08 | #start-meeting | |
| 14:08 | meeting | Meeting started Mon Mar 3 14:08:30 2014 UTC. The chair is walterbender. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
| 14:08 | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #endmeeting | |
| 14:09 | walterbender | #topic GSoC |
| 14:09 | I set up a page for applications: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/S[…]_of_Code/Template | |
| 14:09 | #action everyone solicit students | |
| 14:10 | any other questions/comments re GSoC? | |
| 14:11 | #topic youth summit | |
| 14:11 | gp94 | how many slots are there for sugarlabs this time? |
| 14:11 | walterbender | gp94: don't know yet |
| 14:11 | we find out soon | |
| 14:12 | I think it is in part based on how many students apply | |
| 14:14 | re the youth summit, daniel francis and I have been discussing ideas | |
| 14:14 | we are writing a manifesto with rms about the role of free software in education | |
| 14:15 | the plan is still pretty sketchy so far | |
| 14:15 | but I think by next meeting we will have something tangible | |
| 14:16 | please chime in with ideas | |
| 14:16 | gonzalo_odiard_ | walterbender, do you have any plan about dates or place? |
| 14:16 | walterbender | not yet... |
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| 14:16 | walterbender | somewhere either in .UY. .PY, or .AR |
| 14:16 | unless we get an offer we cannot refuse from .PE :) | |
| 14:16 | or .NI | |
| 14:18 | We can maybe combine it with a Turtle Art day for leverage | |
| 14:19 | it will enable a small budget | |
| 14:19 | gonzalo_odiard_ | walterbender, if we can clone us :) |
| 14:19 | meeting | <JoseMiguel-es> It is an interesting idea, combine with *tortugarte, to manage both in shape simultaneous... |
| 14:19 | <JoseMiguel-es> And not having to do both from zero. | |
| 14:19 | walterbender | JMGarcia: it is efficient for us |
| 14:20 | meeting | <JoseMiguel-es> If, for no *tner that clone us ;) |
| 14:20 | walterbender | FYI, I am trying to organize Turtle Art days in Sri Lanka and Nepal |
| 14:20 | meeting | <JoseMiguel-es> Afterwards of the Google *Code, perhaps can manage something in *ANEP. In director remained very excited. |
| 14:21 | walterbender | JMGarcia: +1 |
| 14:23 | gonzalo_odiard_ | walterbender, anything else about this topic? |
| 14:26 | walterbender | no... |
| 14:26 | Sorry. Had to step afk | |
| 14:27 | #topic teacher/techie meetups | |
| 14:27 | claudia will organize the first meeting for this week (Wednesday) | |
| 14:28 | we'll be reviewing the Learn Sugar activity I have been working on | |
| 14:28 | it is for teachers to learn about Sugar | |
| 14:28 | we've been translating it into Spanish | |
| 14:28 | the first pass is at http://people.sugarlabs.org/pe[…]earnSugar-1.59.xo | |
| 14:29 | gonzalo_odiard_ | walterbender, training support l10n? |
| 14:29 | walterbender | gonzalo_odiard_: yes |
| 14:29 | but it still needs more work | |
| 14:30 | and I don't have a good solution for the videos | |
| 14:30 | plus we need to think about the backend stuff | |
| 14:30 | and a few other issues | |
| 14:31 | I think we will ultimately need a specialized version for each region | |
| 14:31 | for example, the school list is for .AU right now | |
| 14:31 | we could make a list for schools . UY, for example | |
| 14:31 | but those sorts of details are not too important | |
| 14:31 | raulhugo | I can help translating something to Perú |
| 14:31 | walterbender | raulhugo: thx |
| 14:32 | I am more interested in how we can extend the framework to introduce other ideas | |
| 14:32 | more activities and more ideas around pedagogy | |
| 14:32 | not just how to use Sugar but to use it for learning | |
| 14:33 | gonzalo_odiard_ | +1 |
| 14:33 | walterbender | the first pass is really just about mechanics |
| 14:33 | the next one needs to be about ideas | |
| 14:33 | but I think the framework is pretty easy to extend | |
| 14:33 | that is what I hope to discuss on Wednesday | |
| 14:35 | but I tried to be somewhat subversive with the first version: a lot of emphasis on the Journal, portfolio, etc. | |
| 14:35 | and I introduce Turtle Art :) | |
| 14:36 | meeting | <JoseMiguel-es> ;) |
| 14:36 | walterbender | we also, on the technical front, need a better handle on i18n for html content |
| 14:37 | I can generate all the html on the fly from Python so that the strings appear in the .po files | |
| 14:37 | but it raises the bar for 3rd parties extending it | |
| 14:38 | gonzalo_odiard_ | walterbender, we use .rst in help activity to achieve that |
| 14:38 | walterbender | gonzalo_odiard_: I'll take a look |
| 14:39 | does anyone have other topics for today? | |
| 14:39 | raulhugo | :) |
| 14:39 | walterbender | CanoeBerry: anything to report re school servers? |
| 14:40 | gonzalo_odiard_ | walterbender, the background contest |
| 14:40 | walterbender | gonzalo_odiard_: take the floor |
| 14:40 | #topic background contest | |
| 14:40 | gonzalo_odiard_ | as reporte in the ml, the site is almost ready http://contest.sugarlabs.org/ |
| 14:41 | we need translate it | |
| 14:41 | and we need define the schedule | |
| 14:41 | CanoeBerry | Input on the upcoming School Server Community Edition 5.1 most welcome -- goals are intentionally very limited so that larger ambitions follow with 6.0: |
| 14:41 | http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XS_C[…]unity_Edition/5.1 | |
| 14:41 | walterbender | we should start soon |
| 14:41 | CanoeBerry | http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XS_C[…]_Edition/Features |
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| 14:41 | kandoi | hey |
| 14:42 | walterbender | gonzalo_odiard_: anything we can do to help? |
| 14:42 | kandoi | pasting my messages from the #sugar channel |
| 14:42 | I was reading through the ideas page for GSoC and found the python 3 port project interesting | |
| 14:42 | gonzalo_odiard_ | JoseMiguel proposed March and April |
| 14:42 | kandoi | I have good experience with python and I hope to further improve my skills through this project |
| 14:42 | walterbender | sounds good |
| 14:42 | kandoi: we are in the middle of meeting | |
| 14:42 | gonzalo_odiard_ | kandoi, please, we are in a meeting now, can you wait a little? |
| 14:42 | kandoi | sure |
| 14:42 | sorry | |
| 14:42 | gonzalo_odiard_ | thanks |
| 14:43 | raulhugo | well I cant help on translation and localization to Perú |
| 14:43 | walterbender | raulhugo: can you help spread the word too? |
| 14:43 | meeting | <JoseMiguel-es> March or April for the launching, as the classes begin the next week. |
| 14:43 | gonzalo_odiard_ | raulhugo, good, can you send me a mail to contact you? |
| 14:43 | meeting | <raulhugo-es> *ok |
| 14:44 | <raulhugo-es> *Yes *walter I *think *that I *can | |
| 14:44 | gonzalo_odiard_ | we will need help from local communities to promote it |
| 14:44 | walterbender | gonzalo_odiard_: maybe we can mention it on Wednesday to the educators |
| 14:44 | they all have local connections | |
| 14:44 | gonzalo_odiard_ | walterbender, yes, i will do |
| 14:44 | meeting | <JoseMiguel-es> +1 |
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| 14:45 | gonzalo_odiard_ | i am wondering if we can get some type of sponsoring |
| 14:46 | meeting | <raulhugo-es> We look for Local or international sponsors |
| 14:46 | gonzalo_odiard_ | raulhugo, both |
| 14:46 | walterbender | gonzalo_odiard_: what do you want to do with the sponsorship? |
| 14:47 | gonzalo_odiard_ | walterbender, maybe give to the winners a better prize |
| 14:47 | walterbender | what sort of prizes do you have in mind? |
| 14:48 | gonzalo_odiard_ | walterbender, if we don't have monetary resources, a t-shirt, if we get sponsors, a xo-4 :) |
| 14:48 | meeting | <JoseMiguel-es> ;) |
| 14:49 | gonzalo_odiard_ | walterbender, maybe we can talk with AU and Ceibal |
| 14:49 | and a few more | |
| 14:49 | walterbender | would be good to make t-shirts with the winning images |
| 14:49 | gonzalo_odiard_ | yes |
| 14:49 | meeting | <JoseMiguel-es> Excellent idea! |
| 14:50 | <JoseMiguel-es> Perhaps this can manage also to local level. | |
| 14:50 | walterbender | that shouldn't be too expensive |
| 14:50 | we could have regional winners and a grand prize global winner | |
| 14:50 | gonzalo_odiard_ | walterbender, yes, i think sugarlabs can manage that |
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| 14:50 | meeting | <JoseMiguel-es> If, it is a good idea. |
| 14:50 | walterbender | we can manage the t-shirts, yes |
| 14:50 | meeting | <JoseMiguel-es> Because it also stimulates... |
| 14:51 | <JoseMiguel-es> Ignacio presented in the Google thinking in a *camieta. | |
| 14:51 | <JoseMiguel-es> T-shirt | |
| 14:52 | walterbender | we can design a nicer t-shirt than Google :) |
| 14:52 | meeting | <JoseMiguel-es> If. And with the winning drawings. |
| 14:52 | <JoseMiguel-es> That a boy win a T-shirt with his drawing is stimulating | |
| 14:52 | <raulhugo-es> Of course :) | |
| 14:53 | walterbender | and it will be in the next Sugar image |
| 14:53 | I think that is a pretty good prize | |
| 14:53 | meeting | <JoseMiguel-es> Motivator... |
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| 14:53 | walterbender | hi Claudia |
| 14:53 | gonzalo_odiard_ | i agree with the t-shirt prize |
| 14:53 | Claudia | Hi walterbender! |
| 14:54 | meeting | <JoseMiguel-es> Hello! |
| 14:54 | gonzalo_odiard_ | what you think about trying to get sponsors? |
| 14:54 | Claudia | hello everyone! |
| 14:54 | walterbender | Claudia: http://meeting.sugarlabs.org/s[…]ng/meetings/today |
| 14:55 | gonzalo_odiard_: I think we need to be clear about what we are asking of them | |
| 14:56 | Claudia | thanks, walterbender! |
| 14:57 | gonzalo_odiard_ | walterbender, my proposal is involve them in the promotion at local level, and request them a contribution in $$ == to the xo-4 price |
| 14:58 | Claudia | walterbender: I have not tested the Activity, but I will like to send the announcement right now! I will add an additional phrase about extending the Activity |
| 14:58 | walterbender | the XO-4 is only $200. Not worth the effort to raise money for that |
| 14:59 | but we could have local sponsor try to find some appropriate prize for local kids | |
| 14:59 | and promotion, yes | |
| 14:59 | for example, in .PY, maybe we could get ABC to run an ad in their paper | |
| 15:00 | gonzalo_odiard_ | walterbender, but then we would need run local contests and a global contest, and i see that more difficult |
| 15:00 | walterbender | is a wary of making an XO the prize because it is too OLPC-centric |
| 15:00 | gonzalo_odiard_: well, the promotion needs to be local | |
| 15:00 | while the contest can be global | |
| 15:01 | but practically, if you want a local sponsor, you need to ensure some local kid involvement | |
| 15:02 | meeting | <JoseMiguel-es> In *Uy uses a lot a sight to the centre *CEIBAL. |
| 15:03 | walterbender | be nice to have some 3rd parties in .UY promoting... decenteralized |
| 15:03 | meeting | <JoseMiguel-es> Can think in a global contest, and that value also to local level. |
| 15:03 | <JoseMiguel-es> But all together... | |
| 15:04 | <JoseMiguel-es> *Premiación To global level, and local quotations | |
| 15:04 | walterbender | we can add the local winner to the local image |
| 15:04 | each place makes their own image from Sugar | |
| 15:04 | gonzalo_odiard_ | walterbender, will be a headache in the long run :/ |
| 15:05 | meeting | <JoseMiguel-es> Also... |
| 15:05 | walterbender | gonzalo_odiard_: yes... you are correct |
| 15:05 | the images should be upstream | |
| 15:05 | meeting | <JoseMiguel-es> But this will depend on what attain generate. |
| 15:05 | walterbender | so we need to think of the local angle to interest local sponsors |
| 15:05 | meeting | <raulhugo-es> Exact |
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| 15:07 | gonzalo_odiard_ | i don't want extend this too much, we are already in March 3th, i will ask manuq and tincho (who worked in the site) how much time they need and report in the mailing list |
| 15:07 | and try to contact AU and Ceibal, if anybody else have other potential sponsors in mind, please contact me | |
| 15:08 | raulhugo | :S well |
| 15:08 | gonzalo_odiard_ | for now, local sponsors == local promotion, and local prize, is ok? |
| 15:08 | walterbender | gonzalo_odiard_: sure |
| 15:08 | meeting | <JoseMiguel-es> +1 |
| 15:09 | raulhugo | +1 |
| 15:09 | = | |
| 15:09 | gonzalo_odiard_ | that is all from my part |
| 15:09 | walterbender | thx |
| 15:09 | anything else for today? | |
| 15:10 | CanoeBerry chimed in earlier about the school server work | |
| 15:10 | Claudia | I just want to confirm that I will send the announcement in a few min |
| 15:10 | walterbender | yeah |
| 15:10 | meeting | <raulhugo-es> :) |
| 15:10 | walterbender | Claudia: I will try to clean things up a bit later today |
| 15:10 | gonzalo_odiard_ | great, Claudia |
| 15:10 | Claudia | I have not tested the version in Spanish with my translation, but it would be a good way to know of people download it and run it |
| 15:10 | As I was translating, I actually modified in the Welcome section some of the wording about moving to the next section to "getting the score higher" | |
| 15:11 | walterbender | Claudia: OK. |
| 15:11 | Claudia | I will add a few words about your intentions to extend and collaborate with locals to customize the Activity |
| 15:11 | walterbender | Claudia: I will try to get all the text into the .po file to make the process easier |
| 15:12 | and I think I will disable the reporting in the non-AU version in the short term | |
| 15:12 | Claudia | Hope to see ad many of you as possible in the meeting on Wed. |
| 15:12 | walterbender | something I need to discuss with tch__ |
| 15:12 | Claudia: I will be there | |
| 15:12 | Claudia | thanks, walterbender! |
| 15:12 | gonzalo_odiard_: you? | |
| 15:12 | gonzalo_odiard_ | Claudia, of course :) |
| 15:12 | Claudia | And JoseMGarcia... too? |
| 15:13 | thank walterbender for your work! | |
| 15:13 | Have a great week! | |
| 15:13 | walterbender | OK |
| 15:13 | meeting | <JoseMiguel-es> Sure! |
| 15:13 | walterbender | thanks everyone for coming to the meeting on a holiday |
| 15:13 | Claudia | thanks |
| 15:13 | walterbender | keep in touch by email |
| 15:13 | 5 | |
| 15:13 | meeting | <raulhugo-es> When it is the *teacher-*meet??? |
| 15:13 | <JoseMiguel-es> 4 | |
| 15:14 | Claudia | 3 |
| 15:14 | walterbender | raulhugo: wednesday morning |
| 15:14 | raulhugo: we need to announce on the amazonas page in FB | |
| 15:14 | meeting | <raulhugo-es> *OK |
| 15:14 | <raulhugo-es> Exact hour? | |
| 15:14 | walterbender | Claudia: ^^ |
| 15:15 | Claudia | 9 |
| 15:15 | walterbender | EST |
| 15:15 | Claudia | 9 AM EST |
| 15:15 | walterbender | needs to go back to babysitting this morning :) |
| 15:16 | gonzalo_odiard_ | 2 |
| 15:16 | walterbender | CanoeBerry: ^^ |
| 15:16 | meeting | <raulhugo-es> :) |
| 15:16 | <raulhugo-es> *OK | |
| 15:17 | walterbender | #end-meeting |
| 15:17 | meeting | Meeting ended Mon Mar 3 15:17:10 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. (v 0.1.4) |
| 15:17 | Minutes: http://meeting.sugarlabs.org/s[…]-03T14:08:30.html | |
| 15:17 | Log: http://meeting.sugarlabs.org/s[…]14-03-03T14:08:30 | |
| 15:17 | walterbender | kandoi: see you on #sugar |
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| 15:38 | CanoeBerry | Some folks may arrive a full day early for SugarCamp Paris http://fr.amiando.com/sugarcamp3.html (adding in an informal Fri Apr 11 for those around!) |
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