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| 13:57 | <JoseMiguel_UY-es> Hello | |
| 13:58 | sdanielf_ | JoseMiguel_UY: Hi! |
| 13:59 | gonzalo_odiard | hello JoseMiguel_UY, sdanielf_ |
| 13:59 | decause | is here |
| 13:59 | meeting | <JoseMiguel_UY-es> Hello Gonzalo! |
| 13:59 | <JoseMiguel_UY-es> And Hello Daniel! | |
| 14:00 | walterbender | hey all |
| 14:00 | just waiting for claudia | |
| 14:00 | meeting | <JoseMiguel_UY-es> I am treating of *loguearme also in the one of English, to be able to see the originals... |
| 14:01 | ayu24 | Hi everyone ! |
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| 14:01 | walterbender | Boston is in the middle of a big storm again. already more than 10cm of snow and it just started |
| 14:01 | a good day to stay home and write code | |
| 14:02 | we have quorum, so we may as well get started | |
| 14:02 | #startmeeting | |
| 14:02 | meeting | Meeting started Wed Feb 5 14:02:12 2014 UTC. The chair is walterbender. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
| 14:02 | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #endmeeting | |
| 14:03 | walterbender | I'd like to begin with a quick summary of GCI and then jump into GSoC |
| 14:03 | #GSoC | |
| 14:03 | We had a remarkably productive experience with Google Code In. | |
| 14:03 | Congratulations to Ignacio and Jorge, our grand prize winners | |
| 14:03 | but all of the finalists were great. | |
| 14:04 | meeting | <JoseMiguel_UY-es> If, Walter. You had advanced something with the closing in the meeting of 6 January. And we follow slopes afterwards. |
| 14:04 | walterbender | lots of very useful patches |
| 14:04 | Gonzalo will join them at Google in April as our representative | |
| 14:05 | decause | gonzalo_odiard++ |
| 14:05 | walterbender | We need to catch up with these kids: to finish reviewing their patches and get their work integrated |
| 14:05 | meeting | <JoseMiguel_UY-es> Excellent! |
| 14:05 | walterbender | It is hard for our small team to keep pace. |
| 14:05 | gonzalo_odiard | i hope is a good opportunity to talk with other project representatives |
| 14:05 | walterbender | Which brings me to the topic of Google Summer of Code |
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| 14:06 | walterbender | gonzalo_odiard: I think it will be fun and productive for you |
| 14:06 | (and be sure to look up rgs et al. in the Bay Area) | |
| 14:06 | gonzalo_odiard | yeah |
| 14:07 | walterbender | But on to the next Google event. |
| 14:07 | We need to decide in the next few days whether or not to apply for Google Summer of Code again this year. | |
| 14:08 | The applications are due next week | |
| 14:08 | The pros: obviously another chance to attract new members to the community | |
| 14:08 | and a chance to focus on some projects that have not been achieved on their own | |
| 14:09 | We've been doing some brainstorming about some ideas | |
| 14:09 | The cons: we want to make sure we offer a quality experience and with inadequate mentoring, we are just wasting resources | |
| 14:10 | meeting | <JoseMiguel_UY-es> The proposals have to be presented now? |
| 14:10 | walterbender | GCI was great, but the burden of mentors was too concentrated on too few people |
| 14:11 | the proposal has to include some project ideas, which is easy, we have many, but also a plan for mentoring, which is where we have fallen short this past year | |
| 14:11 | I am enthusiastic about going forward with our application, but only if I have real support from the community, not just talk but action. | |
| 14:11 | gonzalo_odiard | walterbender, +1 |
| 14:12 | walterbender | So I propose we vet mentors now, before we apply, and only apply for as many slots as we have committed mentors |
| 14:13 | Gonzalo and I have been speaking to those who have done a good job in the past and so far we have: tch__ , lionel, manuq, and the two of us identified as mentors | |
| 14:14 | There are some others who do a lot of mentoring, e.g., dnarvaez and alsroot, who generally chose not to be formally enrolled. | |
| 14:14 | any other suggestiions as to whom we should reach out it would be most welcome. | |
| 14:14 | but the free-for-all model doesn't work in my experience. | |
| 14:15 | frankly, gonzalo_odiard, tch__ and I end up picking up the pieces and it is a lot of work for us | |
| 14:15 | thoughts? comments? | |
| 14:16 | gonzalo_odiard | sdanielf_, do you have time to help? |
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| 14:16 | walterbender | would like to attack the butia team to participate |
| 14:16 | ClaudiaU_ | hello walterbender |
| 14:16 | meeting | <JoseMiguel_UY-es> It is well have alternatives not to concentrate in few people. It is not my area, but perhaps with people of the *Ceibal *Jam? |
| 14:16 | walterbender | hi ClaudiaU_ |
| 14:16 | snowed in? | |
| 14:17 | ClaudiaU_ | sorry I am late... |
| 14:17 | gonzalo_odiard | hi ClaudiaU_ |
| 14:17 | ClaudiaU_ | OMG.. so much snow |
| 14:17 | meeting | <JoseMiguel_UY-es> Hello Claudia! |
| 14:17 | ClaudiaU_ | hola gonzalo_odiard |
| 14:17 | hola JoseMiguel_UY-es | |
| 14:18 | sdanielf_ | gonzalo_odiard: do you mean to help on next GSoC? |
| 14:18 | gonzalo_odiard | sdanielf_, yes |
| 14:18 | walterbender | ClaudiaU_: http://meeting.sugarlabs.org/s[…]ng/meetings/today |
| 14:18 | ClaudiaU_ | thanks walterbender |
| 14:18 | sdanielf_ | gonzalo_odiard: Google does not allow me because of my age |
| 14:18 | gonzalo_odiard | sdanielf_, ou, right :/ |
| 14:18 | walterbender | agism |
| 14:19 | meeting | <JoseMiguel_UY-es> Which irony, no Daniel? |
| 14:19 | gonzalo_odiard | something to talk in SF |
| 14:19 | walterbender | In another topic for this morning, I want to bring in sdanielf_ 's talents |
| 14:19 | we should wrap this topic up... | |
| 14:20 | I propose we do apply for GSoC, but we do so with more discipline than in the past | |
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| 14:20 | walterbender | could we have a quick discussion and then vote on this? |
| 14:21 | sdanielf_ | walterbender: +1 |
| 14:21 | gonzalo_odiard | In particular, request less slots than the last year, and select projects thinking in easy integration with our stack |
| 14:21 | gonzalo_odiard, +1 | |
| 14:22 | walterbender | I am not 100% convinced that integration with our stack is paramount. we can also use it to explore new directions |
| 14:22 | but focus and structure are critical | |
| 14:22 | otherwise we waste everyone's time and opportunities for others | |
| 14:23 | +1 from me for applying | |
| 14:23 | gonzalo_odiard | walterbender, true, but in the past, these exploration projects finished unimplemented, because we don't have the resources to put them in production |
| 14:23 | walterbender | gonzalo_odiard: our research arm |
| 14:23 | ClaudiaU_ | +1 I am happy to provide complementary mentoring... to define projects, but most of the mentoring is technical |
| 14:24 | meeting | <JoseMiguel_UY-es> +1 Equal that Claudia, support to define projects and ideas. |
| 14:24 | walterbender | ClaudiaU_: yes... it tends to be technical, but having your input/feedback has been useful in the past |
| 14:24 | josemiguel: some project ideas would be great. | |
| 14:25 | ClaudiaU_ | walterbender: I am happy to participate in the same capacity |
| 14:25 | walterbender | seems we have consensus |
| 14:25 | I'll prepare the application today (while I am not shoveling snow) and circulate it | |
| 14:25 | #agreed GSoC application | |
| 14:25 | meeting | <JoseMiguel_UY-es> *Ok |
| 14:26 | walterbender | #action walter to prepare the draft application |
| 14:26 | OK... | |
| 14:26 | I have another somewhat related topic, if it is OK | |
| 14:26 | ClaudiaU_ | ok |
| 14:27 | walterbender | #topic Sugar Camp |
| 14:27 | This is an idea that tch__ came up with about a month ago: to have a regional summit of the youth hackers | |
| 14:27 | perhaps in Caacupe? | |
| 14:28 | gonzalo_odiard | walterbender, uy can be a good palce too |
| 14:28 | walterbender | We have so many contributors form the region, whom like sdanielf_ cannot participate in the google programs because of age |
| 14:28 | gonzalo_odiard | walterbender, flavio danesse wanted to do something similar with the python joven group |
| 14:28 | walterbender | .ar might work too... I hear prices are good right now :P |
| 14:29 | gonzalo_odiard | yes, for prices .ar would be better |
| 14:29 | walterbender | we could try to bring a few kinds from other regions in as well... at least jorge from el salvador |
| 14:29 | sdanielf_ | how many atendees do you estimate? |
| 14:29 | walterbender | I think would be great and a good message about our mission: the kids take responsibility for the project |
| 14:30 | I am thinking maybe 12 | |
| 14:30 | meeting | <JoseMiguel_UY-es> It is good idea .*ar Think that can result simpler for the region. |
| 14:30 | walterbender | so some real work can get done |
| 14:30 | ClaudiaU_ | i wish we could do other regions... i.e. Africa |
| 14:30 | walterbender | maybe a long weekend |
| 14:30 | ClaudiaU_: let's pilot where we know it will work | |
| 14:30 | and then look to more places | |
| 14:31 | gonzalo_odiard | walterbender, i think i can look at the logistics if is done in .ar (can ask manuq too) |
| 14:31 | walterbender | We can use some Trip Advisor funds for this and maybe some of the money google just gave us to pay for it |
| 14:31 | and maybe get ceibal to help | |
| 14:31 | sdanielf_ | I'm worried about that 12 atendees is too few for an international summit |
| 14:31 | walterbender | sdanielf_: I guess it depends on what we are trying to accomplish |
| 14:31 | gonzalo_odiard | maybe "at least 12" :) |
| 14:32 | ClaudiaU_ | walterbender: agree |
| 14:32 | walterbender | a coding sprint gets bogged down with too many |
| 14:32 | but a more formal program can support more | |
| 14:32 | meeting | <JoseMiguel_UY-es> To what refer with 12? |
| 14:32 | walterbender | but I was going to task you sdanielf_ ) to think about what would be good to accomplish |
| 14:33 | josemiguel: i was thinking 12 kids doing a code sprint | |
| 14:33 | but maybe we want a broader set of topics and a bigger program for more kids | |
| 14:33 | meeting | <JoseMiguel_UY-es> *Ok. |
| 14:34 | sdanielf_ | I'm not sure about what to accomplish |
| 14:34 | walterbender | maybe a conference run for/by kids |
| 14:34 | gonzalo_odiard | i think a sugarcamp would be more a hands on experience |
| 14:35 | walterbender | sdanielf_: in my narrow view of the world, I always think about engineering, but we could use this as a way to tell the experience of being a youth Sugar developer to the world (and to other kids) |
| 14:35 | and draw in a component of pedagogy as well | |
| 14:35 | maybe draft a manifesto about the future of education in the region | |
| 14:36 | to present to MoE in the various countries from which we solicit our participants | |
| 14:36 | meeting | <JoseMiguel_UY-es> Very good idea |
| 14:36 | walterbender | yes... shoot higher than just a code sprint |
| 14:36 | and let's get lots of kids | |
| 14:36 | sdanielf_ | maybe we need a space for code sprint and a place for talks and discussion |
| 14:37 | walterbender | if you are all agreeable, then we can take the discussion to email and move it forward? |
| 14:37 | gonzalo_odiard | +1 |
| 14:37 | walterbender | sdanielf_: in my experience, it is hard to do the two in parallel |
| 14:37 | meeting | <JoseMiguel_UY-es> +1 to walterbender and sdanielf_ |
| 14:37 | walterbender | maybe a code sprint before? |
| 14:38 | gonzalo_odiard | have two topics to talk later |
| 14:38 | walterbender | and the results can be one of the presentations? |
| 14:38 | sdanielf_ | not in parallel, of course |
| 14:38 | walterbender | so just to see if we have consensus to pursue this |
| 14:38 | +1 from me | |
| 14:38 | sdanielf_ | +1 |
| 14:38 | ClaudiaU_ | + 1 |
| 14:38 | meeting | <JoseMiguel_UY-es> A space of talk and discussion can summon to more people that interest , so that they add @en el futuro. |
| 14:38 | walterbender | great |
| 14:39 | meeting | <JoseMiguel_UY-es> +1 |
| 14:39 | walterbender | #agreed to pursue a youth summit in the south |
| 14:39 | #action sdanielf_ and walter to make some proposals | |
| 14:39 | gonzalo_odiard: you want to jump in with your topics? | |
| 14:39 | gonzalo_odiard | ok |
| 14:40 | first topic: we was discussing make a contest for sugar wallpapers | |
| 14:40 | with sugar 0.100 you can change the background of your home view | |
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| 14:41 | gonzalo_odiard | we think is a good opportunity to help to our kid artists and promote sugar |
| 14:41 | and make more people participate (not only coders) | |
| 14:41 | sdanielf_ | +1 then! |
| 14:42 | gonzalo_odiard | the start of the discussion is here https://gist.github.com/manuq/[…]0126fbacd4c3e313e |
| 14:42 | walterbender | +1 on this |
| 14:42 | will be fun | |
| 14:42 | decause | walterbender: wallpaper contest sounds amazing |
| 14:43 | meeting | <JoseMiguel_UY-es> +1 This can excite to other boys, no only programming. |
| 14:43 | gonzalo_odiard | we need agree in implementation details, as how send the images or the prizes |
| 14:43 | decause | can students from RIT HFOSS course submit? |
| 14:43 | gonzalo_odiard | manuq, who is a designer, agreed in be a judge |
| 14:43 | walterbender | decause: should be open to all |
| 14:44 | no agism at SL :) | |
| 14:44 | ClaudiaU_ | and the girls? |
| 14:44 | gonzalo_odiard | maybe we can put a max age to compensate :) |
| 14:44 | walterbender | we'll let those old uni stundents join |
| 14:44 | gonzalo_odiard | ClaudiaU_, why not girls? |
| 14:44 | decause | github has worked wel for things like this we've done |
| 14:45 | ClaudiaU_ | I am just reacting to JoseMIguel's comment.... I do hope girls participate as well |
| 14:45 | decause | adds to syllabus |
| 14:46 | meeting | <JoseMiguel_UY-es> This gives possibility of girls, and of many others more artists. No only of *code lives the man! ;) |
| 14:46 | ClaudiaU_ | ;) |
| 14:46 | meeting | <JoseMiguel_UY-es> And it can engage also to teachers... |
| 14:46 | gonzalo_odiard | would be great have more feedback on the proposal if you agree in make the contest |
| 14:46 | walterbender | just poured another cup of Colombian coffee... thx ClaudiaU_ |
| 14:47 | gonzalo_odiard: do you have the URL from manuq's doc? | |
| 14:47 | never mind.. I see it ^^ | |
| 14:47 | gonzalo_odiard | :) |
| 14:47 | walterbender | better get yet another cup of coffee |
| 14:47 | ClaudiaU_ | walterbender: you are very welcome |
| 14:48 | walterbender | we should also think about how we publicize the contest |
| 14:49 | gonzalo_odiard | yes |
| 14:49 | walterbender | to make sure we reach far and wide |
| 14:49 | gonzalo_odiard | and maybe is a opportunity to get sponsors |
| 14:49 | walterbender | ClaudiaU_: maybe SEED can help? |
| 14:49 | gonzalo_odiard | and promote a activity in the deployments |
| 14:49 | decause | walterbender: i'll volunteer to post to opensource.com once details are finalized |
| 14:49 | ClaudiaU_ | walterbender: I can propose |
| 14:50 | gonzalo_odiard | decause, thanks |
| 14:50 | walterbender | gonzalo_odiard: seems we have consensus... |
| 14:50 | gonzalo_odiard | walterbender, would we vote? |
| 14:51 | meeting | <JoseMiguel_UY-es> +1 |
| 14:51 | ClaudiaU_ | +1 |
| 14:51 | walterbender | +1 |
| 14:52 | gonzalo_odiard | +1 (obviously :) |
| 14:52 | walterbender | #agreed to hold a background image contest |
| 14:52 | gonzalo_odiard | good, next topic |
| 14:52 | walterbender | #action everyone to comment on https://gist.github.com/manuq/[…]0126fbacd4c3e313e |
| 14:52 | #action contact SEED and other potential vehicles for outreach | |
| 14:53 | gonzalo_odiard: you had another topic, yes? | |
| 14:53 | ClaudiaU_ | I only have a few min |
| 14:53 | gonzalo_odiard | in our last travel to montevideo, in the ceibal event, a teacher who works with kids with disabilities, contacted to a guy from unesco france |
| 14:53 | walterbender | ClaudiaU_: could you give an update before you go? |
| 14:53 | ClaudiaU_ | yes |
| 14:54 | decause | #action decause post wallpaper contest details on opensource.com |
| 14:54 | gonzalo_odiard | he said, unesco can finance work on accesibility support in sugar, if we present a project |
| 14:55 | i never presented a project to a institution like unesco | |
| 14:55 | anybody knows how to do it? | |
| 14:55 | walterbender | gonzalo_odiard: the butia team and I have been discussing a project that may be relevant |
| 14:55 | gonzalo_odiard: I can help with that | |
| 14:55 | ClaudiaU_ | I have my quick update |
| 14:56 | decause | is interested in staying in the loop too |
| 14:56 | ClaudiaU_ | I have receive confirmation from several people about the chats |
| 14:56 | gonzalo_odiard | walterbender, ok, but you already have a lot of work.... |
| 14:56 | walterbender | FYI, there is a Berkeley professor who is working on a proposal with NiH on nutrition with Sugar and the .NI deployment |
| 14:56 | gonzalo_odiard: I'll help.. but not be the lead | |
| 14:56 | ClaudiaU_: please continue | |
| 14:56 | gonzalo_odiard | decause, help is welcomed |
| 14:57 | thanks! | |
| 14:57 | ClaudiaU_ | I am still waiting for Costa Rica, but Colombia, Nicaragua, La Rioja.. all welcome the idea of getting together again |
| 14:57 | walterbender | yeah |
| 14:57 | gonzalo_odiard | ClaudiaU_, .uy? |
| 14:58 | walterbender | .py |
| 14:58 | .pe | |
| 14:58 | decause | gonzalo_odiard: email me details plz, I'll discuss with my director |
| 14:58 | ClaudiaU_ | Only Nicaragua suggested Monday... the rest of the people suggested to keep wednesdays |
| 14:58 | gonzalo_odiard | decause, ok |
| 14:58 | ClaudiaU_ | sorry.. Paraguay, of course |
| 14:59 | I am not contacting technical people yet... but please send educators | |
| 14:59 | I only sent email to Martin Perez.. I need to send email to other names suggested | |
| 15:00 | I would like to get names of people involve directly with deployments.. | |
| 15:00 | walterbender | the first meeting of the SE Asia group is this week (tomorrow, I think) but at an odd hour: 1:30 AM for me |
| 15:00 | ClaudiaU_ | yes, walterbender |
| 15:01 | walterbender | ClaudiaU_: you think the first meeting might be in a couple of weeks? |
| 15:01 | ClaudiaU_ | gonzalo_odiard sent me contacts of people in the community... which I have not invite yet |
| 15:01 | walterbender | be great to use it to solicit feedback on the training app (/me says selfishly) |
| 15:02 | ClaudiaU_ | walterbender: yes!! I was thinking we open the first meeting with that... I need to give you feedback and translate |
| 15:03 | JoseMihguel.. can you help us find the contact info for the educators in Ceibal? | |
| 15:03 | meeting | <JoseMiguel_UY-es> If, I will be tomorrow there. But I need more data of the meeting (am treating to put me to the day) |
| 15:05 | ClaudiaU_ | learning-technical chat organized by us, once per month |
| 15:06 | gonzalo_odiard | that is synthesis power :) |
| 15:06 | meeting | <JoseMiguel_UY-es> *Ok. Technician on computer or on educators? |
| 15:06 | walterbender | both |
| 15:06 | meeting | <JoseMiguel_UY-es> *Ok. |
| 15:07 | ClaudiaU_ | both for the invite, but I am sending personal emails to educators |
| 15:07 | meeting | <JoseMiguel_UY-es> *OK. |
| 15:09 | gonzalo_odiard | idea: would be good have a page in the wiki with ongoing slobs projects |
| 15:10 | walterbender | gonzalo_odiard: yeah.. beyond the meeting notes that no one looks at |
| 15:10 | gonzalo_odiard | exactly :) |
| 15:10 | walterbender | anyway... anything else for today? |
| 15:10 | decause | libreplanet? |
| 15:10 | walterbender | I apologize on behalf of freenode that we could not meet on Monday |
| 15:10 | and I appreciate everyone accommodating the change in the schediule | |
| 15:11 | gonzalo_odiard | walterbender, libreplanet was in the topics list |
| 15:11 | walterbender | oh yeah |
| 15:11 | just a quick heads up that Claudia and I are doing a panel at LibrePlanet on the future of FOSS in elementary education | |
| 15:12 | and the dangerous trend of "Disneyification" of education | |
| 15:12 | decause | congrats! |
| 15:12 | walterbender | needs to remember to contact Bahktiar |
| 15:12 | ClaudiaU_ | sorry.. I had to start a call... |
| 15:12 | walterbender | We should wrap up for today |
| 15:13 | don't be shy about communicating between meetings on the list | |
| 15:13 | thanks all | |
| 15:13 | 5 | |
| 15:13 | gonzalo_odiard | 4 |
| 15:13 | decause | 3 |
| 15:13 | sdanielf_ | 2 |
| 15:14 | meeting | <JoseMiguel_UY-es> 1? |
| 15:14 | walterbender | #endmeeting |
| 15:14 | meeting | Meeting ended Wed Feb 5 15:14:23 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. (v 0.1.4) |
| 15:14 | Minutes: http://meeting.sugarlabs.org/s[…]-05T14:02:12.html | |
| 15:14 | Log: http://meeting.sugarlabs.org/s[…]14-02-05T14:02:12 | |
| 15:14 | walterbender | heads out to shovel |
| 15:14 | gonzalo_odiard | bye all! a nice and productive meeting |
| 15:15 | meeting | <JoseMiguel_UY-es> Goodbye. |
| 15:16 | decause | thanks all |
| 15:16 | & | |
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| 15:58 | ClaudiaU_ | walterbender: |
| 15:58 | sorry I had to leave at 10 am.. I had a call and was not able to concentrate in the chat | |
| 16:04 | walterbender | ClaudiaU_: it is OK. glad we could find any time to meet on such short notice |
| 16:04 | you guys buried? I cannot believe how much snow we have already | |
| 16:05 | ClaudiaU_ | omg... |
| 16:05 | we have lots of snow.. and the streets is a mess too | |
| 16:05 | the streets are a mess | |
| 16:06 | btw, SEED will send the machine to Samson. | |
| 16:06 | I will send the XO tomorrow (hopefully) and they will cover that cost too | |
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| 16:20 | walterbender | great |
| 16:21 | ClaudiaU_: I will post a version of the training app that has a few of the videos in place. | |
| 16:21 | ClaudiaU_ | ok |
| 16:26 | walterbender | I'll upload in a few minutes (after some more Colombian coffee) |
| 17:12 | bernie | hello claudia and walter |
| 17:13 | ClaudiaU_, walterbender: ^^^ :) | |
| 17:14 | walterbender | hi bernie |
| 17:14 | ClaudiaU_ | hi Bernie |
| 17:14 | walterbender | hope I can dig out in time to get to Grendle's tomorrow |
| 17:14 | ClaudiaU_ | walterbender: I am glad you are enjoying the coffee |
| 17:31 | walterbender | ClaudiaU_: http://people.sugarlabs.org/wa[…]/Training-1.37.xo |
| 17:31 | enjoy | |
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