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| 16:51 | callkalpa | hi gonzalo_odiard_ |
| 16:51 | gonzalo_odiard_ | hello! |
| 16:52 | how are you? | |
| 16:53 | callkalpa | doing fine thanks. Exams are also in progress and will be over on 30th. So kinda concentrated in studies these days :-) |
| 16:53 | Hope you also are doing well :-) | |
| 16:55 | gonzalo_odiard_ | all right, just busy |
| 16:55 | let see | |
| 16:55 | your project is near end | |
| 16:56 | i want be sure we have all the pieces needed | |
| 16:56 | and ready to be included in sugar in the next cycle | |
| 16:56 | and probably release a new version of Help activity soon | |
| 16:56 | ok? | |
| 16:57 | callkalpa | sure |
| 16:59 | Releasing a new version of Help should be possible even without waiting for the next release cycle of suger | |
| 16:59 | *sugar | |
| 16:59 | gonzalo_odiard_ | yes |
| 17:00 | i would like to have a single script to update content, and generate html in a given language (or a list of translated languages) | |
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| 17:01 | gonzalo_odiard_ | let me see how is the translation state |
| 17:01 | did you tried with a particular language? | |
| 17:02 | callkalpa | yes l10n_script.sh script does it |
| 17:03 | yes I tried with Sinhala for Read activity | |
| 17:04 | gonzalo_odiard_ | we should organize a contest to see who finish the translation first, Spanish or Sinhala :) |
| 17:04 | callkalpa | :-) |
| 17:04 | that's a good idea | |
| 17:05 | we organized a l10n marathon (translation for 24 hours) for Sinhala in OpenOffice some time ago | |
| 17:05 | gonzalo_odiard_ | hmm, pootle user is not in the git repo :( |
| 17:06 | added | |
| 17:06 | later, try translate something in pootle, and we can see if is updated in the repo | |
| 17:07 | let me check the logs | |
| 17:07 | callkalpa | you mean in the Help Activity repo? |
| 17:08 | what I did was I downloaded the po files from pootle, created the html files with that translated content and used that html files to view the help content | |
| 17:08 | gonzalo_odiard_ | no, in the help_activity_content repo |
| 17:08 | how downloaded the po files? | |
| 17:09 | callkalpa | so if I get it correctly, if we change someting in the help_content_repo it should be updated in repo, am I correct? |
| 17:09 | from pootle, the po files can be downloaded | |
| 17:09 | http://translate.sugarlabs.org[…]cts/help_content/ | |
| 17:10 | gonzalo_odiard_ | in the normal case (python activities), pootle get the sources from git |
| 17:10 | run a script to generate the .pot file | |
| 17:10 | and when the translators change something, generate the .po files | |
| 17:10 | and push to git | |
| 17:11 | then, the developer get the translations updated | |
| 17:11 | for us, that is not so easy, because we need generate the .po file by hand | |
| 17:12 | callkalpa | po in the sense translated html files, right? |
| 17:12 | gonzalo_odiard_ | sorry, the .pot file |
| 17:12 | is that procedure documented in the wiki? | |
| 17:12 | callkalpa | nope, I'll update it |
| 17:13 | it uses the sphinx i18n tools | |
| 17:13 | so in our case when the content is changed we have to manually generate the pot files and coordinate with chris to get them updated in pootle | |
| 17:14 | gonzalo_odiard_ | yes, that is bad |
| 17:15 | callkalpa | yes chris mentioned about this. as the initial step it was ok to ask chris update the content. But I discussed with chris to implement the system you just mentioned |
| 17:16 | that is the developer push the new pot files to repo and from there pootle will grab the files and update | |
| 17:16 | gonzalo_odiard_ | great |
| 17:17 | callkalpa | I hope that would be the one you have in your mind as well |
| 17:18 | gonzalo_odiard_ | what sources are you finally using, .rst or markdown? |
| 17:20 | rst, right? | |
| 17:20 | what you think about this: | |
| 17:20 | 1) we move the source files to the help activity | |
| 17:21 | callkalpa | yeah it is rst |
| 17:21 | gonzalo_odiard_ | 2) create a script to create the .pot files, and push to git |
| 17:21 | callkalpa | yeah that's better |
| 17:21 | gonzalo_odiard_ | 3) later we can get the .po files from pootle using git |
| 17:22 | 4) create a script to generate the html files, and release a activity | |
| 17:22 | callkalpa | since the latest help content will be shipped with a new release of Help Activity, it is not a problem to have the content also in the Activity repo |
| 17:22 | gonzalo_odiard_ | this last script can have a language as parameter |
| 17:23 | i suppose the .rst files will not be so big, compared to the images | |
| 17:24 | callkalpa | the current l10n_script.sh script get the language as the input and generate appropriate html files |
| 17:24 | gonzalo_odiard_ | igreat |
| 17:24 | i already did custom setup script for wikipedia | |
| 17:25 | ahhh, we already said we will include html for the different languages, right? | |
| 17:25 | callkalpa | releasing an activity, is it just creating a tarball and uploading it or is it any other method, I am not familiar with the process |
| 17:25 | yeah | |
| 17:26 | different languages will have different html files, but all of them will share the same images | |
| 17:26 | we are not shipping the rst files | |
| 17:26 | gonzalo_odiard_ | is create the .xo, and publish in aslo, and the tarball and upload to a sugarlabs server |
| 17:26 | ok | |
| 17:27 | callkalpa | so that can be done manually, or we can write a simple script for that as well if it is necessary |
| 17:27 | gonzalo_odiard_ | there are a script, but usually i do it manually |
| 17:28 | we can modify the script | |
| 17:28 | callkalpa | great |
| 17:28 | gonzalo_odiard_ | question, the last content is in https://git.sugarlabs.org/help[…]-content/mainline, right? |
| 17:29 | callkalpa | yes |
| 17:30 | gonzalo_odiard_ | ok, i see rst and markdown files there, i suppose can ignore the markdown |
| 17:31 | callkalpa | yep |
| 17:31 | gonzalo_odiard_ | another question |
| 17:31 | callkalpa | that was because of the initial commit when we were about to do it with mallard |
| 17:32 | gonzalo_odiard_ | what about the links to the images? |
| 17:32 | callkalpa | they are modified accordingly by the l10n_script.sh script |
| 17:33 | gonzalo_odiard_ | if we will have content in different languages, and all will point to the same images, we will need have a directory by language |
| 17:33 | and outside a directory with the images | |
| 17:33 | callkalpa | yeah it is already there |
| 17:33 | gonzalo_odiard_ | the links will be ../images/image_name.png ? |
| 17:33 | callkalpa | yes |
| 17:34 | https://git.sugarlabs.org/help[…]ees/activity_help | |
| 17:34 | this is the new directory structure | |
| 17:34 | inside help directory will be the help content | |
| 17:35 | gonzalo_odiard_ | and the links should not be in the same way in the .rst files? |
| 17:35 | https://git.sugarlabs.org/help[…]source/browse.rst | |
| 17:35 | i see images/image_name.png | |
| 17:36 | callkalpa | nope there is no modification to the rst source. The l10n_script will generate the html files and images in the same way it has been and grab the images directory out. It will do a sed on each html file and modify the image path |
| 17:37 | gonzalo_odiard_ | hmmm |
| 17:37 | i don't like it | |
| 17:38 | if we do the sed in the .rst files, we will not need that process | |
| 17:39 | callkalpa | I'll give it a try |
| 17:39 | gonzalo_odiard_ | great |
| 17:40 | if you do that, tell me, and I can include all the .rst files in Help activity | |
| 17:41 | callkalpa | sure |
| 17:41 | gonzalo_odiard_ | and we can see the scripts, and talk with cjl to work in the l10n |
| 17:41 | do you agree? | |
| 17:42 | callkalpa | sure |
| 17:42 | gonzalo_odiard_ | anything else i am missing? |
| 17:43 | callkalpa | one more thing |
| 17:44 | will it be ok that I look into these issue after 30th, I know that the deadline for gsoc is before that. | |
| 17:45 | I'll try my best to complete the suggestions before the deadline | |
| 17:45 | gonzalo_odiard_ | yeah, i trust you are committed to the project |
| 17:45 | i want release a activity version soon after that | |
| 17:46 | and be sure the changes in sure are accepted as soon as the 0.102 cycle is opened | |
| 17:46 | callkalpa | yes I am, the thing is since I am having exams I better concentrate on the exams, soon after it finished I'll complete the suggestions |
| 17:47 | gonzalo_odiard_ | no problem |
| 17:47 | callkalpa | changes in sugar, is that so? I'll keep an eye :-) |
| 17:47 | Thanks a lot | |
| 17:49 | are we done here for today ? | |
| 17:57 | gonzalo_odiard_ | yes, i think so |
| 17:58 | callkalpa | great. I'll keep you posted about the progress these days (as time permits) |
| 17:58 | Thanks | |
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| 22:26 | cjl_ | reads back scroll between gonzalo_odiard_ and callpalka |
| 22:27 | heads out for pizza | |
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