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17:08 | walterbender | hello everyone |
17:08 | lionaneesh | waves! |
17:08 | walterbender | we'll get started soon |
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17:14 | walterbender | #startmeeting |
17:14 | meeting | Meeting started Fri Jul 5 17:14:17 2013 UTC. The chair is walterbender. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
17:14 | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #endmeeting | |
17:15 | walterbender | mzepf: so I have been looking at your code. Not sure why it won't work with the primitives_dictionary as is... you could use a lambda function as one more level of indirection |
17:15 | mzepf: not pretty, but minimal changes to the current code while we are figuring things out | |
17:16 | mzepf | walterbender: Sounds good. |
17:16 | llaske <llaske!~chatzilla![]() |
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17:16 | mzepf | walterbender: Maybe we should explain to the others what we're talking about? |
17:17 | walterbender | mzepf: so maybe keep heading in the direction you are going, but drop it all into the lambda function framework |
17:17 | just do it for a couple of blocks and see what happens | |
17:17 | mzepf: good idea... you want to start things off? | |
17:17 | mzepf | walterbender: Sure. |
17:19 | walterbender and I developed a rough idea of how the blocks know what Python code they will be transformed into. | |
17:20 | It's derived from the primitives, which currently tell TurtleArt how to execute each block. | |
17:20 | The idea is to have a class whose instances can be called as functions (to execute the block in TA), | |
17:21 | or stored as Python Abstract Syntax Trees (ASTs). | |
17:21 | I yet have to integrate that idea into TA. | |
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17:22 | mzepf | I also played around with various code generators (codegen and unparse). |
17:22 | walterbender_ | lost his network |
17:22 | mzepf | It turns out neither of them supports comments or docstrings. |
17:23 | walterbender_ | anyone have experience with codegen or unparse or their equiv? |
17:23 | mzepf | ... or know of a code generator that supports comments? |
17:23 | gonzalo_odiard | nop |
17:24 | walterbender_ | thanks mzepf |
17:25 | axitkhurana: you want to go next? | |
17:25 | axitkhurana | sure. |
17:25 | This week I worked on the UI of the mini profiles: | |
17:26 | - Created a couple of svg icons, initially a simple cloud, then a cloud with a speech bubble like pointer. | |
17:26 | - Made few mockups for the neighborhood view, but we would focus on group view first. | |
17:27 | - Implemented the widget (an icon to display expanded profiles) in group view. | |
17:27 | - Will work on expanded view of mini profiles this week. | |
17:27 | walterbender_ | axitkhurana: any screenshots we can look at? |
17:27 | axitkhurana | walterbender_: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/S[…]ial_Sugar_project |
17:28 | I've added the icons, mockups and screenshots there :) | |
17:28 | walterbender_ | I like the cloud icon |
17:28 | llaske | nice cloud ! |
17:28 | axitkhurana | :) |
17:29 | cjl <cjl!~chatzilla![]() |
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17:29 | axitkhurana | Combined a few shapes in inkscape. |
17:30 | walterbender_ | inkscape is great... I suspect with Adobe's new pricing scheme for Acrobat, even more people will start using it. |
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17:32 | axitkhurana | yeah. Pretty easy to use. |
17:33 | walterbender_ | axitkhurana: what is next (for this coming week)? |
17:34 | axitkhurana | walterbender_: I need to work on the expanded view, that is the view that will show the items from other services. |
17:35 | basically a larger cloud that will show 1 item at a time from each service. | |
17:36 | (rotating between services) | |
17:36 | walterbender_ | any comments before we move on? |
17:37 | axitkhurana | No, thank you. |
17:37 | walterbender_ | would like to see some more UI sketches of that scheme |
17:38 | might be a better way than rotating | |
17:38 | but let's see | |
17:38 | axitkhurana | Sure, will share them as soon as I add them to the wiki. |
17:38 | For suggestions. | |
17:38 | gonzalo_odiard | axitkhurana, the big cloud in the neighborhood is not very standard... |
17:38 | axitkhurana | yeah, that's what Martin felt, we'll be doing that in Group view. |
17:39 | gonzalo_odiard | also, we should think if the cloud is the right metaphor... is tech talk, no something the kids should care |
17:40 | walterbender_ | gonzalo_odiard: I think it is more than tech talk these days... part of the popular culture, at least in the States |
17:40 | when I was younger, we used to call it timesharing :) | |
17:41 | gonzalo_odiard | :) |
17:41 | axitkhurana | :D |
17:42 | walterbender_ | we should move on... |
17:42 | boredomist: next? | |
17:42 | boredomist | Sure |
17:43 | I don't have very much to report regrettably, this week was busier than I had anticipated | |
17:43 | Mostly, I just did a few small things, such as adding bits of documentation or unit tests. | |
17:44 | I transitioned from a yaml based configuration to a settings.py one, as per lionaneesh's suggestion | |
17:45 | I actually think that's it. Didn't get close to as much as I wanted done | |
17:45 | Still ahead of my schedule, fortunately. | |
17:45 | walterbender_ | next week? |
17:46 | boredomist | Finishing up the server as much as possible, starting the next step of a client API |
17:46 | walterbender_ | sounds good |
17:47 | who else is around? suraj and kalpa sent their regrets | |
17:47 | llaske | I can talk for Suraj |
17:47 | walterbender_ | llaske: go for it |
17:47 | gonzalo_odiard | boredomist, your project was? |
17:48 | boredomist | gonzalo_odiard: the translation server |
17:48 | https://github.com/boredomist/translate | |
17:48 | still have to come up with a name | |
17:48 | llaske | Suraj currently finalize the Sugar Activity Palette |
17:48 | gonzalo_odiard | boredomist, did you read about a new tool in f19 to translate? |
17:49 | llaske | He work to fix some Manuel feedbacks. Should be finished in few days. |
17:49 | boredomist | gonzalo_odiard: no, i didn't. do you have any more information on that? |
17:49 | llaske | Thanks to Daniel, he solved also its issue regarding the way to implement a new API in the Sugar JavaScript Framework. |
17:50 | gonzalo_odiard | boredomist, i was surprised because didn't see any information in the feature pages, but read about this in the release notes |
17:50 | boredomist, looks like a comand line tool, but can use google translate and other services | |
17:50 | llaske | He should publish this week a first post on this work to planet.gnome.org |
17:51 | walterbender_ | nce |
17:51 | boredomist | gonzalo_odiard: huh. do you have a link for this? |
17:51 | gonzalo_odiard | boredomist, searching |
17:51 | llaske | Finally he worked to enhance it's sample activity to add DataStore call |
17:52 | walterbender_ | llaske: seems pretty far along |
17:53 | llaske | :-) |
17:54 | boredomist | gonzalo_odiard: ah, i see that it's called 'tw', but having trouble finding actual info on it |
17:54 | gonzalo_odiard | boredomist, should be good invest a little time in research that |
17:55 | boredomist | yeah, definitely |
17:55 | gonzalo_odiard | Summary : Translate words into different languages |
17:55 | Description : | |
17:55 | translate word is a command that translates words into different | |
17:55 | languages. translate word uses internal dictionaries, and contacts | |
17:55 | online to the Google Translation and the FreeTranslation engines. | |
17:55 | It can also be integrated via the clipboard with a desktop environment. | |
17:55 | walterbender_ | Anyone else around? Casey? |
17:56 | iamaregee2 | Hi Everyone |
17:57 | gonzalo_odiard | walterbender_, i was talking with kalpa, and this week i could _finally_ communicate with Anna |
17:57 | walterbender_ | iamaregee2: wanna report in? |
17:57 | iamaregee2 | Sure |
17:58 | Perhaps this week hasn't been that productive for me ,but I have made some progress with my RESTful interface | |
17:58 | http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/S[…]Code/2013/moksaya | |
17:58 | https://github.com/aregee/moksaya | |
17:59 | I have implemented project forking functionality with the APIs | |
17:59 | http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/S[…]3/moksaya#Forking | |
18:00 | walterbender_ | looks |
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18:02 | walterbender_ | iamaregee2: is there any reason we need to track gender, age, location? |
18:02 | iamaregee2: with kids especially, I'd prefer to keep things private | |
18:03 | iamaregee2 | Well not really |
18:03 | walterbender_ | iamaregee2: can I request we not track those fields unless there is a reason? and then we can discuss how to do it safely |
18:03 | iamaregee2 | It could be dropped , but we can keep location ? |
18:04 | walterbender_ | same with mugshot... could that be an avatar? |
18:04 | iamaregee2 | Sure , I will drop those |
18:04 | walterbender_ | location on a gross level, like Dehli seems OK |
18:04 | what do you want to use it (location) for? | |
18:04 | iamaregee2 | Mugshot has ability to set avatar |
18:05 | walterbender_ | I guess to me mugshot implies a photo, not an avatar |
18:05 | but I am old-school | |
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18:06 | walterbender_ | hey casey |
18:06 | iamaregee2 | it's there already , it is integrated with Gravatar service as well |
18:06 | CDeLorme | walterbender_: hello sorry if I am late |
18:06 | walterbender_ | iamaregee2: OK. we can live with the name internally |
18:06 | iamaregee2 | well if you leave mugshot blank , it automatically assigns a avatar to display picture .. |
18:07 | walterbender_ | but in any UI, we should make clear that we are interested in an avatar: would not like to encourage the kids to upload photos |
18:07 | any other comments for iamaregee2 ? | |
18:07 | iamaregee2 | Okay , I will keep that in mind |
18:08 | walterbender_ | thx |
18:08 | CDeLorme: wanna chime in with an update? | |
18:08 | CDeLorme | Sure, This past week I finished some UI changes, built icons for cross platform, and have found a large number of resources regarding telepathy. |
18:09 | The prototype UI is fully functional cross platform, and integrates an alert system the matches in both now. | |
18:09 | It's looking like the farstream package may or may not be useful for our purposes, various distro's having different versions. | |
18:09 | walterbender_ | CDeLorme: glad you are finding telepathy resources |
18:09 | CDeLorme | I expect it may take another week of research and testing before I figure out how the Telepathy package integrates on a few platforms and how to get multiple channels running. |
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18:10 | walterbender_ | CDeLorme: the short-term priority would be Fedora |
18:10 | but obviously cross-platform is better | |
18:10 | CDeLorme | Most of the example code I found was for Gtk2 or no gui, the reading is still applicable, but the method to starting the main loop varies |
18:11 | walterbender_ | CDeLorme: but you are using GTK3, I assume |
18:11 | CDeLorme | walterbender_: yes, fedora is a priority, though I am also testing in debian since that makes up two fairly sizable chunks of common distro's |
18:11 | walterbender_ | +1 |
18:11 | CDeLorme | yes Gtk3/GObject |
18:11 | walterbender_ | +1 |
18:13 | CDeLorme | I am aiming for three channels, one for chat, one for commands (such as video requests and toggles) and one for streaming, telepathy seems to have all the right tools so it's just a matter of finding them or finding modern examples of them. |
18:14 | walterbender_ | CDeLorme: all sounds good. |
18:15 | what is queued up for next week? | |
18:15 | CDeLorme | All telepathy all week, wrapping my fingers around its code-base is essential to moving forward. |
18:16 | walterbender_ | thanks for the update |
18:16 | I think we covered everyone who was here this week | |
18:16 | same time, same channel next week. | |
18:16 | don't be shy about asking your mentors for help | |
18:16 | or hanging out in #sugar | |
18:16 | thx | |
18:16 | CU | |
18:17 | #endmeeting | |
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