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| 00:00 | ClaudiaU | I propose to work on TA day and from there move to SugarJam |
| 00:00 | walterbender | JT4sugar: ClaudiaU and I will try to get a good TA plan in place soon |
| 00:01 | JT4sugar | Sounds very good! |
| 00:01 | walterbender | OK... so we have a plan |
| 00:01 | ClaudiaU | yes! |
| 00:02 | I have to go now.. | |
| 00:02 | walterbender | #action everyone will think of people to become SL advisors/friends/educators |
| 00:02 | ClaudiaU | yes |
| 00:02 | walterbender | #action ClaudiaU and walterbender will work on TA Day |
| 00:02 | #action walterbender will kick off the GSoC application process | |
| 00:02 | ClaudiaU | yes |
| 00:02 | walterbender | thanks all for joining us tongiht |
| 00:02 | ClaudiaU | good to connect with all of you again! |
| 00:02 | walterbender | 4 |
| 00:02 | ClaudiaU | 3 |
| 00:02 | GeraldA_ | 2 |
| 00:03 | sdanielf | 1 |
| 00:03 | walterbender | #end-meeting |
| 00:03 | meeting | Meeting ended Tue Feb 26 00:03:17 2013 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. (v 0.1.4) |
| 00:03 | Minutes: http://meeting.sugarlabs.org/s[…]-25T23:15:58.html | |
| 00:03 | Log: http://meeting.sugarlabs.org/s[…]13-02-25T23:15:58 | |
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| 00:03 | walterbender | manuq_: got a minute |
| 00:03 | manuq_ | walterbender: yes |
| 00:03 | walterbender | so here is the idea |
| 00:04 | manuq_ | I'm running latest turtleblocks in the xo4 for the first time |
| 00:04 | walterbender | I really find the approach to toolbars that are too wide to be inadequate |
| 00:05 | it is visually unappealing and it only works for a small number of elements | |
| 00:05 | manuq_: try rotating the screen and see what happens to the palette toolbar | |
| 00:06 | since it won't fit, I change it into a button-palette instead of a toolbar | |
| 00:06 | manuq_ | walterbender: yes, we need to find a solution for real to that limitation |
| 00:06 | walterbender | originally, I thought, just wrap into a second row... |
| 00:07 | manuq_ | walterbender: you mean for save/load ? yes I see the palette |
| 00:07 | walterbender | I mean the palettes of Turtle blocks |
| 00:07 | manuq_ | oh I see |
| 00:08 | walterbender | the toolbar fits in landscape mode, so I make it a toolbar button |
| 00:08 | but in portrait mode, the toolbar doesn't fit, so I turn it into a button with a palette | |
| 00:08 | manuq_ | I see |
| 00:09 | walterbender | be nice if Sugar toolkit did that automatically |
| 00:09 | we have all the parts to do it | |
| 00:09 | just an idea, but I wanted to get the conversation going... | |
| 00:10 | I should write up a feature, I suppose | |
| 00:10 | manuq_ | yes, I like it, you use the tooltips as the acompanning text |
| 00:10 | walterbender | yes... |
| 00:10 | so not really any additional work needed... we could make it just happen | |
| 00:11 | (for secondary toolbars, anyway) | |
| 00:11 | it is also easy vis-a-vis touch | |
| 00:11 | manuq_ | walterbender: and if the toolbutton displays another palette? do we have cases like that? |
| 00:12 | walterbender | we do, actually. Not sure what happens... |
| 00:12 | damn corner cases :P | |
| 00:12 | manuq_ | walterbender: but in general I like it |
| 00:12 | walterbender | but most widgets will work in a palette, I think |
| 00:13 | whereas most don't work when they run off the end of the toolbar | |
| 00:13 | manuq_ | and separators can be converted to horizontal separators in the list |
| 00:13 | walterbender | yeah... wasn't an issue in this particular case |
| 00:14 | but I do this by calculating whether or not it will fit, as oppose to hardcoding it | |
| 00:14 | manuq_ | great |
| 00:14 | walterbender | so if you add more items (with plugins) you may get the palette version even in landscape mode |
| 00:15 | manuq_ | I'm looking at Paint right now |
| 00:15 | walterbender | manuq_: I was going to try something similar there... |
| 00:15 | but right now, I am working on Fototoon | |
| 00:15 | manuq_ | it has subtoolbar buttons in the dropdown list of the primary toolbar :/ |
| 00:16 | walterbender: great | |
| 00:16 | walterbender | I just got Labyrinth working with touch... |
| 00:16 | it is kind of nice | |
| 00:16 | manuq_ | walterbender: whoa! nice! |
| 00:16 | walterbender | just one weird bug: the combo boxes don't work in touch |
| 00:17 | I think I saw that bug before... | |
| 00:17 | manuq_ | yes that's for gtk2, odd bug |
| 00:17 | walterbender | flavio is going to port it to gtk3 so maybe it won't matter |
| 00:18 | I have a clone on git if you want to play with it | |
| 00:18 | I also got rid of the silly right click to move mis-feature | |
| 00:18 | manuq_ | walterbender: nice, maybe after dinner I can play a bit |
| 00:18 | walterbender | OK |
| 00:19 | manuq_ | good move removing that behaviour |
| 00:19 | walterbender | I won't keep you... just wanted a second pair of eyes on the toolbar idea |
| 00:19 | talk to you later | |
| 00:20 | manuq_ | walterbender: I was looking for a solution for a while, yours seems effective for subtoolbars, nice |
| 00:20 | walterbender: later | |
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