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| 23:02 | walterbender | hello all |
| 23:02 | i am running a few minutr\es c | |
| 23:02 | behind | |
| 23:02 | JT4sugar | Hi Walter |
| 23:04 | walterbender | any slobs about? |
| 23:04 | ClaudiaU | hello |
| 23:05 | walterbender | still has theo :) |
| 23:06 | ClaudiaU | walterbender is so lucky |
| 23:06 | walterbender | hard to type though |
| 23:08 | ClaudiaU | he can type for you |
| 23:08 | ;) | |
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| 23:10 | walterbender | 3 slobs here |
| 23:10 | manuq_ | hi |
| 23:10 | ClaudiaU | hello |
| 23:10 | walterbender | hi manuq_ |
| 23:10 | GeraldA | hello all |
| 23:11 | ClaudiaU | hello.. GeraldA, I was ready to answer your email |
| 23:11 | walterbender | I have a few topics once we have a quorum |
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| 23:11 | walterbender | manuq_: I have an design idea I'd like to run past you at some point |
| 23:11 | GeraldA | ClaudiaA, Thanks. |
| 23:12 | walterbender | (off topic) |
| 23:12 | manuq_ | walterbender: sure, let's talk later |
| 23:12 | walterbender | manuq_: in prep, maybe you can grab the latest turtleblock bits from git |
| 23:13 | manuq_ | ok! |
| 23:13 | walterbender | meanwhile, I wanted to kick start Google Summer of Code efforts, if SLOBs approves |
| 23:13 | and I wanted to bring up the idea of an advisory group | |
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| 23:14 | walterbender | the later would be both to help us and to give community members some official standing in certain situations |
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| 23:15 | sdanielf | walterbender: +1 |
| 23:15 | GeraldA_ | walterbender, what kind of situations? |
| 23:15 | walterbender | not sure what other topics are up for discussion today, except to say kudos to alsroot (and bernie) for getting the new git server up and running... what a difference |
| 23:15 | let's start the meeting and we can discuss | |
| 23:15 | #start-meeting | |
| 23:15 | meeting | Meeting started Mon Feb 25 23:15:58 2013 UTC. The chair is walterbender. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
| 23:15 | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #endmeeting | |
| 23:16 | walterbender | for the offical record, thx to alsroot (and bernie) for getting the new git server running |
| 23:16 | huge performance improvement | |
| 23:16 | ClaudiaU | +1 |
| 23:17 | walterbender | #topic sugar advisors |
| 23:17 | GeraldA_ | +1 |
| 23:17 | walterbender | this is something that has come up in the past... |
| 23:18 | it is usual to have advsors | |
| 23:18 | but also, it is useful to be able to have an official role when trying to promote Sugar | |
| 23:18 | ClaudiaU | yes |
| 23:19 | walterbender | (I am thinking, for example, of Harriet in India, where having a title would help her in opening doors and being taken more seriously) |
| 23:21 | sdanielf | walterbender: +1 |
| 23:21 | ClaudiaU | any concrete ideas? |
| 23:21 | walterbender | it is also a way to recognize contributors |
| 23:21 | well, two | |
| 23:21 | ClaudiaU | do you mean you want to give people, through a title, some recognition for what they do? |
| 23:22 | walterbender | one, to decide to do it (or not) |
| 23:22 | and two: to come up with names | |
| 23:22 | I have a few ideas | |
| 23:22 | ClaudiaU | not only a title, but recognize what is already happening and encouraging others? |
| 23:22 | I like it | |
| 23:22 | walterbender | yes |
| 23:22 | GeraldA_ | I like it, too. |
| 23:23 | ClaudiaU | i like it a lot, actually |
| 23:24 | i.e. Rosamel... would be another candidate? | |
| 23:24 | walterbender | yes |
| 23:24 | ClaudiaU | Sugar educator? |
| 23:25 | JT4sugar | Good idea-When thnking of names first analyze the audience you hope for them to influence then create name options that would resonate with the auidience |
| 23:25 | walterbender | maybe we can come up with a short list of titles, but maybe just leave it as Sugar advisor |
| 23:27 | ClaudiaU | I like to differenciate.. |
| 23:27 | GeraldA_ | I think the more specific titles, like "Sugar Educator" have some oomph |
| 23:27 | ClaudiaU | +1 |
| 23:28 | educator, friend, adviser | |
| 23:28 | walterbender | no more than 3 types |
| 23:28 | but I like those 3 | |
| 23:29 | and then we need a process... nominations from anyone in the community and a slob vote? | |
| 23:30 | sdanielf | I don't know how is it managed in other projects |
| 23:30 | ClaudiaU | Yes |
| 23:30 | nominamte candidates and then vote | |
| 23:30 | walterbender | sdanielf: I don't think it is done in many other FOSS projects |
| 23:30 | ClaudiaU | no? |
| 23:31 | sdanielf | walterbender: other projects have community-representative people, like the Mozilla Reps |
| 23:31 | walterbender | sdanielf: that is true... and I am a GNOME advisor |
| 23:32 | I think that there are two classes: | |
| 23:33 | ClaudiaU | educator and adviser |
| 23:33 | advisor | |
| 23:33 | walterbender | representatives of major constituencies (the GNOME model) |
| 23:33 | and people whom we lean on for help and advice | |
| 23:33 | I guess a third model would be more geared towards fundraising | |
| 23:34 | but I am thinking at the moment the "lean on for help and advice" category | |
| 23:34 | ClaudiaU | those I Â thought would be like friends |
| 23:34 | JT4sugar | You may want to think of multiple roles under each, possibly thinking about a badge type system that rewards your personal specialty, you could use firends category as fundraising path |
| 23:34 | ClaudiaU | if you donate or help raise funds... |
| 23:34 | JT4sugar | friends |
| 23:36 | ClaudiaU | short and explicit definitions would help.. I don't like the word reward, but recognition for something you be doing already.. and encouragement to other to do it |
| 23:36 | you are doing already (sorry) | |
| 23:37 | JT4sugar | probably wrong word choice-identifies your area of specialization |
| 23:37 | walterbender | let's make some suggestions via email over the next week? |
| 23:38 | one question of logistics: do we ask people before we recommend them? I think we probably should. | |
| 23:38 | but maybe before we ask, we feel the temperature of the water? | |
| 23:38 | GeraldA_ | I imagine this process: someone is nominated; we ask them; they agree; slobs vote. |
| 23:38 | ClaudiaU | JT4sugar: I am sure... I am making a suggestion for a more appropriate word in the context of learning.. nothing more |
| 23:39 | walterbender | GeraldA_: +1 |
| 23:39 | ClaudiaU | walterbender: probably |
| 23:39 | GeraldA_: +1 | |
| 23:39 | walterbender | anything else on this topic today? |
| 23:39 | ClaudiaU | not really.. |
| 23:40 | we have not been able to discuss TA in the chat | |
| 23:40 | but I am thinking we should approach people directly | |
| 23:40 | walterbender | then lets' make a #action to think up some candidates |
| 23:40 | ClaudiaU | for example.. Nic, Py, CR... |
| 23:40 | walterbender | ClaudiaU: sure. |
| 23:41 | ClaudiaU | they are all candidates to promote and to host TA international day, but most of them are starting new schools.. super budy |
| 23:41 | walterbender | for context, we have been discussing having a turtle art day |
| 23:41 | ClaudiaU | walterbender: we should draft a letter and send it to a few people.... |
| 23:42 | walterbender | ClaudiaU: maybe we do that together tomorrow at twine |
| 23:42 | ClaudiaU | walterbender: +1 |
| 23:42 | walterbender | a new topic |
| 23:42 | #topic GSoC | |
| 23:42 | I think we should apply to Google Summer of Code | |
| 23:43 | even though we didn't have much luck the past two years, there is no reason not to try again | |
| 23:43 | and I think the GCI experience was a good one for us | |
| 23:44 | GeraldA_ | walterbender: agreed |
| 23:44 | ClaudiaU | I like the idea |
| 23:44 | in preparation, we can inform countries, so more students can benefit from it | |
| 23:44 | walterbender | some of the GCI students (none of whom are eligible for GSoC) could be mentors |
| 23:44 | ClaudiaU | from other countries |
| 23:44 | sdanielf | walterbender: as I said before, I'll read the terms and conditions to check the possibility of become a mentor |
| 23:45 | walterbender | a nice twist: the secondary school kids mentoring the university kids |
| 23:45 | sdanielf: I think it is pretty wide open | |
| 23:46 | sdanielf | the main reason is because I can't be a student until I finish my time in the SLOBs |
| 23:46 | walterbender | sdanielf: GSoC is only for university students :P |
| 23:46 | you are too young :) | |
| 23:46 | but not too young to be a mentor!!! | |
| 23:47 | sdanielf | walterbender: I'm talking about GSoC and GCI |
| 23:48 | JT4sugar | Presenting a case for Sugar to Android projects/tasks as a portion of application might help |
| 23:49 | walterbender | JT4sugar: we need to solicit projects and mentors |
| 23:49 | I'll start that process as long as SLOBs is OK with our applying | |
| 23:50 | GeraldA_ | +1 for application |
| 23:50 | ClaudiaU | +1 |
| 23:50 | walterbender | +1 |
| 23:51 | sdanielf: any opinion? | |
| 23:52 | sdanielf | +1 |
| 23:52 | walterbender | OK... I'll start kicking that can down the road |
| 23:52 | is full of bad metaphors tonight | |
| 23:53 | ClaudiaU | :) |
| 23:53 | GeraldA_ | :) |
| 23:53 | walterbender | anything else pressing? |
| 23:53 | ClaudiaU | not on my end |
| 23:53 | Only that I am looking forward to test FB plugin | |
| 23:53 | ;) | |
| 23:53 | walterbender | I've been flat out (along with the devel team) trying to take care of some of the rough edges for the XO4 release |
| 23:54 | I have a few ideas for Sugar 1.0 about how to deal with landscape vs portrait mode, for example | |
| 23:55 | that I am experimenting with in a few of my activities | |
| 23:55 | but that is maybe not a SLOBs detail | |
| 23:56 | JT4sugar | walterbender, ClaudiaU The SugarJam for Teachers idea is the thinking of linking that to TA International Day or is it on the back burner for now? |
| 23:56 | walterbender | meanwhile, FYI, we should have a Twitter plugin similar to the Facebook plugin coming from the community soon. And someone is working on a Google+ plugin |
| 23:56 | JT4sugar: not sure if they should be the same... | |
| 23:56 | sdanielf | walterbender: I can explore the Twitter plugin |
| 23:56 | walterbender | sdanielf: tincho (who is in Montevideo this week) has been working on it |
| 23:57 | JT4sugar | walterbender, Not sure either... |
| 23:57 | ClaudiaU | JT4sugar: not sure.. I was thinking The SugarJam for Teachers is mre broad |
| 23:58 | not about TA, but about SUgar i general | |
| 23:58 | JT4sugar | ClaudiaU, That makes sense |
| 23:58 | ClaudiaU | I think we should have less ideas we know we can concentrate and make happen... that many good ideas we end up with nothing |
| 23:59 | walterbender | focus!!! |
| 23:59 | ClaudiaU | perhaps TA internation day will give us enough insite to move to SUgarJam... |
| 23:59 | yes, walterbender... Focus!! | |
| 23:59 | GeraldA_ | and, again, focus! |
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