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| 23:00 | walterbender | hello all |
| 23:01 | ClaudiaU: did you ever get that .ta project to run? | |
| 23:01 | sdanielf | walterbender: hola |
| 23:01 | walterbender | sdanielf: thanks for the reminder today |
| 23:01 | ClaudiaU | Hello |
| 23:01 | walterbender: no | |
| 23:01 | walterbender | ClaudiaU: I can look at it with you on Wednesday |
| 23:02 | ClaudiaU | After I installed the v. 170 all my .ta projects can not open |
| 23:02 | walterbender | ClaudiaU: very troubling... I will look into it |
| 23:02 | ClaudiaU | ok |
| 23:02 | thanks | |
| 23:02 | walterbender | anyone else around? cjl? CanoeBerry? |
| 23:03 | SeanDaly | lurkin |
| 23:03 | walterbender | Gerald will prob. not make it. |
| 23:03 | haven't heard from gonzalo | |
| 23:03 | maybe we can chat a few minutes in the meanwhile | |
| 23:04 | lots going on... | |
| 23:04 | GCI announcement and our first press release in over 1 year (thanks sean) | |
| 23:04 | ClaudiaU | fine with me |
| 23:04 | Thanks SeanDaly! | |
| 23:04 | walterbender | sdanielf: sorry you could not be one of the winners :( |
| 23:04 | sdanielf | walterbender: Can I sign up as a mentor next year? |
| 23:04 | walterbender | sdanielf: of course |
| 23:05 | sdanielf: we'll reapply for google summer of code too... maybe you can mentor there too | |
| 23:05 | SeanDaly | hoping it gets picked up... impossible to predict that sort of thing |
| 23:05 | walterbender | the sugar sprint this weekend was really fun |
| 23:06 | mostly rgs and me, but we had some contributions from a few others too | |
| 23:06 | I am pretty excited about our webservices framework | |
| 23:06 | it should be pretty straight forward to drop services in. | |
| 23:07 | and I am using it as an excuse to make some changes to the journal detail view :P | |
| 23:07 | ClaudiaU | sounds promising |
| 23:07 | walterbender | rgs and I will be breaking up the patch into 3-4 independent parts tonight |
| 23:08 | ClaudiaU | looking forward to test some of that functionality |
| 23:08 | walterbender | ClaudiaU: I think you'll like it |
| 23:08 | sdanielf | oh, now I understand why are you posting many TB draws |
| 23:09 | walterbender | ClaudiaU: I am going to integrate it with the Portfolio sharing code... you'll have a running log of comments people make on your project |
| 23:09 | from within Sugar and from web services | |
| 23:09 | ClaudiaU | +1 |
| 23:11 | We can look at this together on Wed | |
| 23:11 | are you back in Boston? | |
| 23:11 | walterbender | yeah |
| 23:11 | tomorrow night | |
| 23:12 | I have to give a talk in a couple of hours... then back to coding | |
| 23:12 | FWIW, I think SLOBs should be cognizant of the discussion about getting into bed with commercial web services | |
| 23:13 | not that that is what we are doing, but it is not a slamdunk that people will be comfortable with this direction | |
| 23:13 | I blogged about it this morning | |
| 23:13 | feel free to join the debate (on either side) | |
| 23:14 | CanoeBerry | Late, here at last, catching up.. |
| 23:14 | walterbender | ok, we have a quorum |
| 23:14 | #start-meeting | |
| 23:14 | meeting | Meeting started Mon Feb 4 23:14:19 2013 UTC. The chair is walterbender. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
| 23:14 | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #endmeeting | |
| 23:14 | walterbender | just to get it into the log: |
| 23:15 | 1. Congrats to Aguz and Aneesh, our GCI winners | |
| 23:15 | 2. Thanks to SeanDaly for launching the PR efforts | |
| 23:15 | 3. Stay tuned for more debate about web-service integration into Sugar | |
| 23:16 | Adam, wanna give a heads up re the School Server sprint? | |
| 23:16 | SeanDaly | we'll see if launch goes somewhere tomorrow... touch wood |
| 23:16 | CanoeBerry | Sure, we have 10 people gathering near Toronto here starting Wed night thru Sunday. |
| 23:16 | Still getting organized, but scratchpad is http;//schoolserver.org for now.. | |
| 23:16 | walterbender | any specific goals for the sprint? |
| 23:17 | CanoeBerry | Yes, a "v0.1" core that's intentionally pushing off most of the educational modules for now, so we have a very solid/shippable core infra. |
| 23:18 | Running on XO-1.5 and XO-1.75 at min. | |
| 23:18 | walterbender | CanoeBerry: had some interesting discussions with Sameer about how we might proxy some of the work rgs and I are doing through a school server, but that is definitely *not* core |
| 23:18 | sdanielf: was it you who was asking about the timeline for Sugar 1.0? | |
| 23:19 | CanoeBerry | walterbender: What is that work roughly, Paraguay stuff? |
| 23:19 | walterbender | CanoeBerry: no... it is the webservice stuff... Share on Facebook... Share on Google Drive |
| 23:19 | CanoeBerry | Right. |
| 23:20 | ClaudiaU | btw, walterbender, the scripts for data analysis will be useful too |
| 23:21 | the ones we used for Holmes School in Miami and for the paper | |
| 23:21 | walterbender | I should package those up |
| 23:21 | I think I pushed them to git somewhere | |
| 23:22 | I don't recall if my launch_time patch landed in 0.98 | |
| 23:22 | looks | |
| 23:22 | ClaudiaU | ok |
| 23:22 | walterbender | it is import to adding value to those scripts |
| 23:22 | sdanielf | walterbender: I have asked about the timeline for Sugar 1. I'm making a documentation plan |
| 23:22 | walterbender | great... |
| 23:23 | sdanielf: we need to do a design review of the multihome page patch | |
| 23:23 | I have some ideas about it | |
| 23:23 | sdanielf | walterbender: ok |
| 23:23 | walterbender | sdanielf: maybe I'll make some sketches on the plane tomorrow |
| 23:24 | and if the webservices stuff lands, we'll call this version of SoaS "cloudberry" | |
| 23:25 | sdanielf | walterbender: lol |
| 23:27 | I would like to share the documentation plan I made for Sugar 1 | |
| 23:27 | ClaudiaU | :) |
| 23:27 | walterbender | great... I was about to ask for updates |
| 23:27 | sdanielf | #link http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/D[…]on_Team/Notes/1.0 |
| 23:28 | I think we need to schedule a Documentation Team meeting | |
| 23:28 | walterbender | yes |
| 23:28 | FWIW, I think there was a GCI task to figure out which activities had/didn't have documentation | |
| 23:29 | and we have the uptodate versions of Sdenka's book we should add to the list (in .EN and .ES) | |
| 23:29 | sdanielf | walterbender: that may be added to the resources list |
| 23:30 | walterbender | sdanielf: the docs are all linked somewhere on melange |
| 23:30 | ClaudiaU | I asked Julia for update and links to the Help pages she updated |
| 23:30 | I will send that to all of you once I get it | |
| 23:31 | walterbender | sdanielf: should we expand the scope of this task to include the wiki? lots of good dialog of late about our download landing page |
| 23:31 | and we have the mock up of a new webpage | |
| 23:31 | #link http://www-devel.sugarlabs.org/ | |
| 23:32 | pay no attention to the content :P | |
| 23:32 | sdanielf: in any case, please schedule a meeting | |
| 23:33 | SeanDaly: are we set re marketing team meeting at the moment? | |
| 23:34 | SeanDaly | you mean, have I scheduled another meeting? not yet, although |
| 23:34 | walterbender | ClaudiaU: also in our queue is to kick the TA Day can down the road... |
| 23:34 | SeanDaly: I guess I am asking, do we have a queue for PR events? | |
| 23:34 | SeanDaly | JT4sugar quite rightly is asking that we set priorities & strategy for the year |
| 23:35 | ClaudiaU | yes walterbender.. |
| 23:35 | SeanDaly | There are two splashes i'd like to do this year: |
| 23:35 | ClaudiaU | need to work on a few points to share with the community this wed during the chat |
| 23:36 | SeanDaly | 1. Sugar v1 (however, in my view requires discussion of numbering system since actual means v2 in 5 years and v3 in 10) |
| 23:37 | 2. Raspberry Pi Education launch, which they have stated will feature an official case & they are seeking partners | |
| 23:37 | walterbender | SeanDaly: we can switch to Sugar XP, Sugar Millenium Edition, ... |
| 23:37 | SeanDaly | :D |
| 23:37 | Sugar-coated Low Fructose Dietary Edition | |
| 23:37 | walterbender | I asked Aneesh to take a serious look at Sugar/RPi |
| 23:38 | he is well versed in both | |
| 23:38 | SeanDaly | yes Aneesh has hacked on it... good idea |
| 23:38 | did media server RasPod | |
| 23:39 | re PR, I am of course open to suggestions for the queue | |
| 23:39 | walterbender | 3. Cloudberry |
| 23:40 | hopefully TA Day | |
| 23:40 | and a Sugar summit in .NI | |
| 23:40 | SeanDaly | Note: if we are fortunate enough to catch a wave, we may wish to build on momentum = opportunistic approach |
| 23:40 | TA Day? | |
| 23:40 | CanoeBerry | re Raspberry Pi, a reminder from last week that George Hunt & Caryl Bigenho will be presenting at http://www.socallinuxexpo.org/scale11x in LA Feb 22-24 |
| 23:40 | walterbender | Turtle Art Day |
| 23:41 | SeanDaly | ah mais bien sur |
| 23:41 | walterbender | de rien |
| 23:41 | SeanDaly | saw great TA photo on El Pais (Montevideo) website, blue XO-HS with Lego robot |
| 23:41 | walterbender | that is Butia |
| 23:42 | sdanielf | walterbender: nope, most schools have Lego NXT kits |
| 23:42 | walterbender | oh... |
| 23:42 | too bad | |
| 23:43 | sdanielf | the Butia project is applied to schools who contact the Butia folks |
| 23:43 | walterbender | not that Lego is bad.. but Butia is great |
| 23:43 | ClaudiaU | grrrr.. Lego NXT |
| 23:43 | walterbender | sdanielf: then we should work to get more schools to contact them |
| 23:43 | ClaudiaU | Lego is not bad, but NXT is just terrible |
| 23:44 | walterbender | there is a new version of the WeDo software that runs on all XO hardware |
| 23:44 | needs to write the GoGo TA plugin | |
| 23:45 | so little time... so much code to write :P | |
| 23:45 | ClaudiaU | Yes walterbender! |
| 23:45 | SeanDaly | has obtained a pair of Raspberry Pies for testing |
| 23:45 | walterbender | BTW, I asked about the Delhi RPi project... |
| 23:46 | currently on hold :( | |
| 23:47 | any other updates? | |
| 23:47 | I need to finish writing my talk :P | |
| 23:47 | using Turtle Art of course | |
| 23:47 | ClaudiaU | of course |
| 23:47 | I need to work on my TA doc | |
| 23:47 | and finish the presentation for Wed | |
| 23:48 | walterbender | squashed an obscure bug yesterday |
| 23:48 | BTW, everyone should check out the Brian Silverman/Lionel Laske collaboration | |
| 23:48 | ClaudiaU | obscure bug where? |
| 23:48 | walterbender | gets the link |
| 23:49 | #link http://activities.sugarlabs.or[…]sugar/addon/4647/ | |
| 23:49 | it is a great example of JS/Sugar integration | |
| 23:49 | ClaudiaU | :) |
| 23:49 | love it | |
| 23:49 | walterbender | ClaudiaU: TA bug |
| 23:49 | ClaudiaU | walterbender: ok |
| 23:50 | walterbender | I think we should make some noise about it to attract JS hackers |
| 23:50 | SeanDaly: ^^ | |
| 23:50 | the html5/JS discussions are getting quite interesting on devel | |
| 23:51 | sdanielf | walterbender: I didn't test Lionel's activities, but my experience developing content in JS for .HN was a slow-responsive activity. |
| 23:51 | walterbender | sdanielf: this is anything but slow |
| 23:51 | ClaudiaU | I will test |
| 23:51 | walterbender | the Turtle Art version is very slow :) |
| 23:51 | SeanDaly | hmmm need some advice to do that... to go where they are... |
| 23:52 | ClaudiaU | walterbender: still waiting to see it |
| 23:52 | but I saw pictures in FB | |
| 23:52 | walterbender | but if a block == 1 line of code, the TA version is much less code :) |
| 23:52 | ClaudiaU: wednesday | |
| 23:52 | ClaudiaU | yes |
| 23:52 | walterbender | OK... anything else for today? |
| 23:52 | sdanielf | walterbender: What do you think about exporting TurtleArt projects into JS step-by-step drawing scripts? |
| 23:53 | walterbender | sdanielf: interesting idea |
| 23:53 | I already export SVG, but not as a step-by-step script | |
| 23:53 | needs to finish up the Python Logo activity too | |
| 23:54 | ClaudiaU | walterbender needs more hours in his days |
| 23:54 | walterbender | thanks for coming everyone... |
| 23:54 | adam, keep us in the loop re the server sprint | |
| 23:54 | ClaudiaU | keep the good work |
| 23:55 | walterbender | ClaudiaU: looking forward to Wednesday's chat |
| 23:55 | ClaudiaU | please let me know (or Adam) about the scripts for the server |
| 23:55 | sdanielf | walterbender: thanks for scheduling this meeting |
| 23:55 | ClaudiaU | walterbender: Yes! I will send slides tomorrow |
| 23:56 | walterbender | #link http://git.sugarlabs.org/ds-analysis-scripts |
| 23:56 | sdanielf: let me know when the doc meeting gets scehduled | |
| 23:56 | sdanielf | walterbender: what time do you recommend? |
| 23:57 | walterbender | sdanielf: whenever works for you |
| 23:57 | sdanielf | ok |
| 23:58 | ClaudiaU | thanks walterbender |
| 23:59 | 6:59 pm. I have to go | |
| 23:59 | CanoeBerry | ClaudiaU: forgive me, which scripts for server? email if poss :) |
| 23:59 | ClaudiaU | CanoeBerry: data analysis from journal |
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