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#sugar-meeting, 2013-02-01

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16:00 SeanDaly greetings JT4sugar glad you could make it
16:00 JT4sugar Hi Sean
16:00 SeanDaly #start-meeting
16:00 meeting Meeting started Fri Feb  1 16:00:40 2013 UTC. The chair is SeanDaly. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
16:00 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #endmeeting
16:01 SeanDaly #topic Google Code-In PR
16:01 I will write first draft tonight
16:01 cjl said he would assist with Spanish translation
16:02 I have no usable photos yet, from either winner
16:02 this is a real problem since photos are absolutely critical to getting this PR picked up
16:04 I have asked both winners 2 days ago & yesterday to send photos, describing what I need, but nothing received
16:04 I need assistance from cjl & walterbender
16:05 deadline is Monday noon EST but PR should really be ready two hours before at the latest
16:05 JT4sugar Maybe have Walter ask them may get better reply. Walter in SF for Sugar Cloud Mtg-said he would be on #sugar he's good with gmail to
16:07 SeanDaly yes will try to mail him
16:07 JT4sugar You talked to CJL so your good on written content just photos the issue?
16:08 SeanDaly yes, I have all the background I need to write
16:09 however not sure about quoting winners, quotes a bit generic e.g. "i like coding for Sugar"
16:11 JT4sugar In email to Walter you may ask him to ask them "Why they like coding for Sugar?" to get more in depth quote
16:13 Just think when they see Walter Bender in their email box they will respond to what he's asking for
16:14 SeanDaly hmm he had asked them for photos and they both sent something some days later, and unfortunately unusable :-(
16:16 JT4sugar Depending on their location and there kids they may not have the portrait or good shot available. If no photos of them is there a Sugar/GCI graphic to be used
16:18 SeanDaly GCI has a logo... would need permission from GOOG to use it... may be possible; I mailed Steph Taylor (GCI coordinator) for a PR quote this afternoon, could ask her when I get a reply
16:20 my plan is to have lots of quotes; this will communicate SL alive & kicking
16:21 quotes: walter, 2 winners, cjl, gerald Ardito about Digital Learning Day, Steph Taylor
16:21 JT4sugar Seems all you can do is ask Walter to try and facilitate and hope for usable content but I wouldn't count on it being usable so a plan B graphic may be only option. Push him to get deeper quotes from them that would seem more important to story than the picture(which would be nice). Quote line up looks good
16:21 SeanDaly I had asked Gerald if he could do a blog post or send a link to a video in to http://www.digitallearningday.org but he wasn't able to unfortunately
16:22 but a quote from him will be OK
16:22 objective there is to communicate that Sugar not only for developing countries
16:23 JT4sugar Wiil you be mentioning breakdown of participants and from how many countries?
16:25 SeanDaly not complete breakdown, but number of participants & mentors and mention of coutries with special mention for Peru who fielded first GCI participant
16:26 JT4sugar Sounds ggod
16:26 good
16:27 SeanDaly i will try to mail walter now morning on West coast
16:28 JT4sugar OK-Will you be sending out google link with draft like you have in past?
16:30 SeanDaly indeed if it works ever since bernie shut down Google docs sending PR is a major headache and not sure if sharing will work with other account (hopefully will)
16:32 JT4sugar If you set share in doc to specific people(their email) or anyone with link you should be good
16:33 SeanDaly ah yes that's right ok shouldn't be a problem then
16:35 JT4sugar You may want to revisit the need for a PR infrastructure via Google Docs with Walter and Bernie and see if can be set up again to make things easy for community
16:36 SeanDaly yes, if bernie had only asked before shutting it down i could have explained
16:38 ok need to sign off soon, will send link to draft later - any other questions on GCI PR? deadline is Monday noon EST but of course should be finalized day before
16:39 JT4sugar No-I will be around till Sunday 4pm EST then off to watch Super Bowl
16:39 SeanDaly i looked at Spanish PR option but costs money... could still decide to do it up to last minute if we have translation in hand
16:40 ah yes Super Bowl Sunday it's been a long time since I had one!
16:40 JT4sugar Also would be good to set larger Marketing PR strategy mtg for next week or following.
16:41 SeanDaly we'll likely do a Monday morning linkup by e-mail or IRC right before sending out PR
16:41 JT4sugar Ok I'll keep look out
16:42 SeanDaly Yes fully agree for larger strategy meeting - only have time to work on GCI PR until Tuesday. I've been updating press list
16:42 JT4sugar Sounds good-Enjoy the Weekend!
16:43 SeanDaly oh one more thing
16:43 I need to send out a photo release form to winners for parent/guardian to sign
16:43 satellit SeanDaly look at this page for larger strategy info http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/F[…]ar_on_a_Stick_v8_.CA.BB.C5.8Chelo_.CA.BBai
16:43 SeanDaly i asked Bradley at SFC for feedback; but no reply
16:45 re SoaS: I strongly believe VM approach best
16:45 fundamental problem is, netbook market disappearing as Android tablet and Apple iDevice markets explode
16:45 Asus just stopped EeePC netbook production
16:46 satellit unfortunately soas v8 does not install atm  need to lok at alternatives offered on that page
16:46 JT4sugar Not sure how you would be able to turn that around in time. Can you get sign off digitally? Do winners know they need parents to sign off?
16:46 SeanDaly while Raspberry Pi topped 1,000,000 units sold, half of those in the past four months (!!)
16:46 satellit sugar f17 works on Raspberry Pi
16:46 SeanDaly hi satellit
16:47 satellit http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/T[…]g/Reports/ARM_RPi
16:47 SeanDaly in fact my secong RPi arrived at the house this morning but not sure I will have time to test before GCI PR
16:47 second
16:47 satellit nice 3x5 lcd monitor listed to day on IRC
16:48 http://www.amazon.com/3-5-Inch[…]cm_cmu_pg__header
16:48 JT4sugar Need 15,0000 Sugar F17 sd cards so Google can give them away with those Ras-pi's in the UK
16:48 SeanDaly satellit: possible to read text on that tiny without holding up to face?
16:49 JT4sugar: all we need is to have an official SD image carried by RPi's 3 distributoes, who push out to growing reseller network; for the moment only Debian offered
16:50 satellit not sure support-gang@laptop.org  has discussions on scale and other meetings where RPi may be shown
16:50 fedora 17 sugar works on arm
16:50 JT4sugar SeanDaly, Can also try to work with Google to get an image put with the announced 15,000 they are giving away
16:51 satellit http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/F[…]:RPI-sugar-f3.JPG
16:51 SeanDaly JT4sugar: quite, but need to develop contacts first; we'll see how GCI PR goes
16:52 satellit http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/T[…]M_RPi#Start_Sugar  location of that .jpg   FYI
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16:53 satellit talk to pbrobinson on #fedora-arm for details
16:55 SeanDaly two RPi's i've received, one with case, one without
16:56 Rpi plan is to come out with an official case with Education release this year
16:57 satellit all my testing used model B 256
16:57 SeanDaly walterbender: can you see mktg meeting backlog?
16:57 satellit: both of mine rev B 512
16:57 satellit I havwe one now have to revisit testing
16:58 all my time testing f18 fedora and f19 anaconda installer for wiki
17:01 SeanDaly ok anything else for now? will send link to draft PR to those interested
17:01 satellit please cc me  I mentored 2 projects
17:01 JT4sugar Think were good-Best in your efforts!
17:02 SeanDaly satellit: ok
17:02 going once....
17:02 satellit they are listed in tutorials page on wiki...
17:02 bye  : )
17:02 SeanDaly going twice...
17:04 JT4sugar satellit, Is it possible for you to make page that lists what you believe are the most stable best working images?
17:05 satellit listed on http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Fedora_18
17:05 SeanDaly #endmeeting
17:05 meeting Meeting ended Fri Feb  1 17:05:11 2013 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. (v 0.1.4)
17:05 Minutes: http://meeting.sugarlabs.org/s[…]-01T16:00:40.html
17:05 Log:     http://meeting.sugarlabs.org/s[…]13-02-01T16:00:40
17:09 JT4sugar satellit, Is plan to update Sugar on a stick project page with new SoaS release info? presently its showing Quandong
17:12 Is see F18 info below when scroll down but download link takes to F17 version
17:17 satellit That is up to pbrobinson to do or fgross
17:17 above my paygrade as a volunteer : )
17:18 Fedora_18 page has more info
17:18 JT4sugar OK will make note of that and bring up in marketing meeting so we can make sure we have people landing where we would like-I am a little short on the wiki workings ability myself
17:19 SeanDaly JT4sugar: wiki is rabbit warren difficult to find anyway - key is link rom homepage www.sugarlabs.org
17:19 satellit I think it is due to Soas-live.iso anaconda f-18 not having netinstall that works yet
17:20 use my page as key to wiki: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit
17:20 SeanDaly staellit: maybe SCK better choice for link from homepage
17:21 satellit on left side under Projects on every wiki page
17:21 not my choice to do
17:22 JT4sugar SeanDaly, Granted but when we want educators who aren't super technical we need to give a slimed down page so as not to overwhelm them. Were not lacking information its just we need to pick a few good pieces to get them started
17:22 satellit look at http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/S[…]t#Advanced_Topics  link at bottom for more advanced info
17:24 http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/D[…]oads/Landing_page  is such an attempt
17:24 top of left list
17:24 not mine
17:24 I do not maintain it
17:26 SeanDaly last time i tried to make a wiki page more readable for teachers, a community member wiped out all my edits, after 3 days i gave up was very disheartening
17:27 JT4sugar satellit, When you say top left of list what particular link? On downloads page right?
17:28 satellit You can start a custom page just edit an existing one's link at top of browser and edit it (add -something0 and you get a new one to create
17:28 Downloads on top left collumn
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17:28 JT4sugar SeanDaly, We will have to come up with some type of strategy to deal with this. Maybe separate Educator Wiki Pages area. Or a section on Website that is more self contained
17:29 satellit, Gotcha
17:29 satellit try this : wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Downloads/Educator-page
17:29 you will get a new page to write in
17:30 SeanDaly JT4sugar: actually plan was to migrate to new website where wiki remains work area, but not teacher-facing orientation
17:30 satellit or any variation from whatever page you want
17:31 I will try to help if you make a new page to write links to rest of wiki
17:33 JT4sugar satellit, Thanks after we figure out a doable strategy then might move forward on that type of page
17:35 satellit yw  : )
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17:40 JT4sugar Signing off-Thanks Satelit!
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