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#sugar-meeting, 2013-01-14

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22:59 walterbender hello all
22:59 SeanDaly hi :-)
23:00 ClaudiaU hello
23:00 walterbender I see GeraldA  and cjl
23:00 GeraldA Hello
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23:00 walterbender looks for gonzalo
23:00 cjl hi]\
23:00 hi
23:01 walterbender we have a quorum :)
23:01 #start-meeting
23:01 meeting Meeting started Mon Jan 14 23:01:07 2013 UTC. The chair is walterbender. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
23:01 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #endmeeting
23:01 walterbender maybe we can start with the PR topic? it is late for SeanDaly
23:01 #topic PR funding for 2013
23:01 SeanDaly thanks its true i'm drooping & cat asleep in lap
23:02 walterbender SeanDaly: wrote Walter - we have been using eReleases with excellent results - they
23:02 feed PR Newswire, but are much cheaper. Effective press releases are
23:02 key marketing tools when paired with events or interviews, etc.
23:02 I would like the Board to approve a ten-pack at 2390 USD. The reserved
23:02 releases are good for two years, so the cost could be amortized over
23:02 the 2013 and 2014 budgets.
23:03 we had an email discussion... we've lots to shout about this year
23:03 including Google Code In
23:03 and Sugar 1.0
23:03 SeanDaly this is a limited offer from eReleases and is a steep discount from the already discounted nonprofit rate
23:03 walterbender did anyone have questions above and beyond the email discussion?
23:04 GeraldA no
23:04 walterbender maybe we can confirm the email vote:
23:04 +1
23:04 cjl I'm +1 on the buy
23:04 ClaudiaU +1
23:04 GeraldA +1
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23:05 cjl Thanks for bringing this up SeanDaly
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23:05 walterbender CanoeBerry: do you need the backlog?
23:05 CanoeBerry If it's easy?
23:05 JT4sugar Hi Sean-Nice to see the Pro PR Man in the Sugar Labs corner again!
23:05 walterbender adam: http://meeting.sugarlabs.org/s[…]eeting/2013-01-14
23:06 CanoeBerry thx
23:06 walterbender ClaudiaU had voted yes in email... but we can wait for her to come back on line...
23:06 SeanDaly JT4sugar: yes i'm back in action :-) thanks
23:06 walterbender CanoeBerry: opinion? vote?
23:07 SeanDaly i'm here to answer questions
23:07 CanoeBerry not yet, neet to catch up :|
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23:07 ClaudiaU walterbender: I just voted +1
23:07 walterbender motion passes...
23:08 will try to get feedback from daniel, gonzalo and adam for the minutes
23:08 ClaudiaU ok
23:08 CanoeBerry am catching up with http://meeting.sugarlabs.org/s[…]eeting/2013-01-07
23:09 walterbender SeanDaly: maybe you and cjl can work on a first press release for the year about GCI?
23:09 SeanDaly many thanks SLOBs
23:09 walterbender: certainly
23:09 walterbender SeanDaly:  a lot of cool stuff
23:10 cjl We will need to wait out the GCI embargo on grand prize winners (a few weeks), but it will be nice to talk about it.
23:10 SeanDaly i'm sorry i've been down the hold, how best to brief me on GCI? a Skype call?
23:10 walterbender anything else on this topic?
23:10 cjl SeanDaly: We can communicate by e-mail
23:10 ClaudiaU no on my side
23:11 walterbender OK
23:11 SeanDaly cjl: grand
23:11 walterbender let's continue on the plans for 2013 topic...
23:11 SeanDaly: get to bed
23:11 ClaudiaU I would love to get more familiar but perhaps not in the meeting...  I am sure we will be as the PR strategy develops
23:12 walterbender ClaudiaU: maybe we can schedule a meeting at an earlier hour for SeanDaly's participation.
23:12 ClaudiaU great
23:12 GeraldA sure
23:13 walterbender OK. we can schedule a time in email
23:13 #topic 2013 planning
23:14 SeanDaly ClaudiaU: PR is an incredibly efficient tool for raising awareness, but beyond a communications strategy, requires a project strategy... so 2013 goals are starting point for comm strategy although v1.0 release and next large Sugar gathering in there for sure
23:14 i'm off to bed thanks all
23:14 walterbender goodnight
23:14 ClaudiaU Thanks SeanDaly
23:14 walterbender #action schedule a PR meeting
23:14 ClaudiaU good nigh
23:14 night
23:15 GeraldA SeanDaly: Good night.
23:15 walterbender for the minutes:
23:15 #link http://www.ereleases.com/nonprof.html
23:17 ClaudiaU thanks walterbender
23:17 walterbender re 2013 planning, the OLPC CES announcements have raised some questions/challenges
23:18 specifically, Caryl B. asked me to bring up the topic of Sugar on Android
23:18 ClaudiaU is Sugar planning to make a public statement?
23:18 cjl *sigh*
23:18 CanoeBerry aside for later: are we sure we will use all 10 press releases? 5 might be sufficient
23:19 ClaudiaU I read many questions in IAEP and OLPC members knew how to answer some, but not all them...
23:19 cjl CanoeBerry: over two years, sur ewe can use 10
23:20 walterbender CanoeBerry: in fact, we have lots of queued up cool stuff, like our i18n work
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23:20 walterbender CanoeBerry: and even things like school server camps would make nice press if we had a ready vehicle
23:20 so I'd think it is worthwhile
23:21 ClaudiaU agree
23:21 walterbender it'll motivate us to be more proactive
23:21 CanoeBerry Yes, as I feel (could be wrong) there's only been 3-5 press releases over the past few years total.
23:21 walterbender be nice to issue a release on the assessment work to offset the spam and misinformation that is circulating
23:22 lots of topics
23:22 CanoeBerry: you are correct. and 10 does seem a lot
23:22 CanoeBerry: but I think we need to be more proactive (and to distinguish ourselves from OLPC)
23:22 JT4sugar From my perspective Sugar 1.0 on Android should be a strategic goal and it can serve as a recruitment tool and use as a tool to push the multi-languages/pootle angle
23:22 walterbender it is the path to further growth
23:23 JT4sugar: yes... back on that topic
23:23 we had a GCI student write up a report on the topic
23:23 cscott has also done some nice work
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23:23 walterbender and the work of lionel is relevant.
23:24 CanoeBerry Cool, if (as I'm assuming) we/SL still have $10,000++ in the bank.
23:24 walterbender looks for the GCI report
23:24 CanoeBerry: yes... we have 10K
23:24 SeanDaly Canoeberry: some releases will be as objective widespread press coverage, others will "inform" but these play a key role - they build our story, journalists always get up to speed with previous few releases
23:25 Canoeberry: also... we would have done more PR, but I couldn't continue footing the bills out of pocket
23:25 walterbender yes... we've been off people's radar for too long... and meanwhile we have so many great accomplishments
23:25 need to get the word out
23:25 JT4sugar A Sugar Labs Contest like GCI to attack Android and build on GCI  might be way to go-If Sean & Walter TT-Google they may even foot the bill-More good PR for US&Them
23:26 CanoeBerry TT?
23:26 JT4sugar Talk to
23:26 walterbender #link http://www.google-melange.com/[…]/7972209?id=17001
23:27 ^^ the Android report
23:27 meanwhile, there are several Sugar apps that have been ported to Android, including variants of Turtle Art.
23:27 SeanDaly yawns for good despite interest in discussion
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23:28 walterbender I think it is important that we clarify the various threads:
23:28 (1) Sugar apps ported to Android
23:29 (2) Android apps on Sugar
23:29 ClaudiaU walterbender: do you have a list of what Activities have been ported to Android?
23:29 I would like to know..
23:29 walterbender (3) Sugar on Android (e.g., Journal, collaboration, view source)
23:29 (4) XO Learning environment for Android (not Sugar)
23:30 ClaudiaU it would be nice to quickly remind people about design principles for Activities in Sugar
23:31 walterbender re #1 and Claudia's question, I don't have a list... just that I know of two different TA efforts.
23:31 one that has its origins at OLPC
23:32 ClaudiaU ok
23:32 walterbender and one that came out of the blue from Ali Muzaffar
23:33 I know that OLPC was also working on Physics
23:33 re #2, there is Lionel's framework and Brian Silverman and C Scott have some apps that could land soon
23:34 ClaudiaU i know nothing from OLPC.. it would be nice for this info to come from SL
23:34 walterbender re #3, we've had some discussions, but this is a big job and we need to find resources to support the work
23:35 re #4, I know little about the plans, but it is a distinct effort from Sugar with a different audience in mind, as I understand it
23:35 But I think we should push hard on 1, 2, and 3 in 2013.
23:35 GrannieB +1
23:35 GeraldA +1
23:35 cjl As time is invested into leveraging touch interface (in Linux stack on XO) , the possibility of doing something similar on an Android device (with touchscreen)  is worth exploring
23:36 walterbender But also, as satellit points out, we can probably run Sugar directly on Chromebooks
23:36 and Intel has announced a big push for touch laptops. we are well positioned there as well
23:37 those would be Sugar for GNOME/Linux, not Sugar for Android
23:37 we should make some noise about those opportunities too
23:38 JT4sugar Another breakout move could be Ubuntu from CES I  saw Mark Shuttleworth running Ubuntu on a smartphone with all the funtionality of desktop and says tablet also will be able to run. THis could fit nicely with latest Sugar/Ubuntu work.
23:38 walterbender JT4sugar: could be... don't know how much of GTK is available on that device
23:38 worth investigating
23:39 A few other ideas/opportunities kicking around: integration of the Journal with the Cloud...
23:39 I'm working with RGS on some ideas on that front
23:39 to make it easier to share projects and talk about them in social media
23:42 JT4sugar walterbender, I would also try to build in assesment ability into the journal cloud integration if you are not planning already or at least begin the discussion on viability.
23:42 walterbender JT4sugar: do you have something specific in mind? something like alsroot 's work?
23:44 JT4sugar walterbender, Not exactly an idea but with all the information coming up into cloud it would be very opportune to mine that data on the learning side.
23:45 walterbender ClaudiaU and I are working on a write up of the Turtle Art assessments this week :)
23:45 cjl If the SomosAzucar Sugar Network tests well we could use one of the releases to give it more visibility.  To the new SLOBs, we funded Sebastian Silvas travel to present i tin Colombia to the Marina Orth Foundation.
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23:46 ClaudiaU yes.. we are!! it would be a good paper and we should be more explicit about some design principles for TA
23:47 walterbender and hopefully inform where we go next
23:48 GeraldA This work on assessments and TA seem really exciting and useful to me.
23:49 As is the chance to communicate more broadly some deisgn principles
23:49 ClaudiaU agree GeraldA.. you should think about writing something similar
23:49 can you publish anything from your thesis in this conference?
23:49 it is in NY...
23:49 during summer
23:50 deadline is next week....
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23:50 GeraldA ClaudiaA: what is the conference? I am sure I can publish something.
23:50 CanoeBerry Hola G.O.
23:51 walterbender gonzalo_odiard: http://meeting.sugarlabs.org/s[…]eeting/2013-01-07
23:51 CanoeBerry http://meeting.sugarlabs.org/s[…]eeting/2013-01-14
23:52 ClaudiaU let me find the info.. GeraldA
23:53 http://idc2013.org/
23:54 GeraldA ClaudiaU: Thanks. I will try to put something together.
23:55 ClaudiaU they have workshops, etc
23:55 and I am in the reviewing committee
23:56 cjl walterbender: We should have a bunch of SOAS sticks for you to hand out at that meeting
23:56 CanoeBerry walterbender: is there a mailing list reference to satellit's Sugar-on-Chromebook idea?
23:56 walterbender Off topic: Just got a nice note from Tincho about the Sugar course he is teaching in .PY
23:57 CanoeBerry: no. we should start a thread
23:59 satellit http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/S[…]Topics#Chromebook  (ask pbrobinson on #fedora-arm)
23:59 walterbender satellit: thx
23:59 We are about out of time...
23:59 a couple of things before we adjourn.

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