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| 00:18 | alfredo <alfredo!baa22537 gateway/web/freenode/ip.186.162.37.55> has joined #sugar-meeting |
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| 00:18 | meeting | <icarito-es> hello alfredo |
| 00:18 | <icarito-es> We are in #sugar-meeting-es | |
| 00:18 | alfredo | Hello Sebastian |
| 00:18 | meeting | <kaametza-es> hello alfredo |
| 00:18 | alfredo | Hello everybody |
| 00:18 | meeting | <icarito-es> Already it goes up *yannick and lacking *koke |
| 00:18 | alfredo | Hello Laura |
| 00:19 | icarito | esa es la autotraduccion |
| 00:19 | estamos en #sugar-meeting-es | |
| 00:19 | meeting | <icarito-es> hello |
| 00:19 | <icarito-es> *aqui If *po | |
| 00:19 | <icarito-es> :-) | |
| 00:20 | <alfredo-es> +1 | |
| 00:21 | anita <anita!~webchatjita.sugarlabs.org> has joined #sugar-meeting |
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| 00:21 | meeting | <icarito-es> *koke Went in to the building |
| 00:21 | <icarito-es> :-) | |
| 00:23 | icarito | bernie, cjl we're in #sugar-meeting-es for SomosAzucar's board meeting |
| 00:25 | meeting | * KaiXo-es has joined |
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| 00:27 | meeting | <icarito-es> hello To all |
| 00:27 | <icarito-es> We are a *poquito retarded | |
| 00:27 | <icarito-es> *juan *camilo Is putting a *google *hangout | |
| 00:28 | <icarito-es> We expect it to share the link | |
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| 00:29 | meeting | <KaiXo-es> hello To all |
| 00:30 | <icarito-es> #startmeeting | |
| 00:31 | <icarito-es> #link *there *is to *google *hangout *to *meet | |
| 00:31 | <icarito-es> I say I say | |
| 00:31 | <icarito-es> #link https://plus.google.com/hangou[…]?authuser=0&hl=es# | |
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| 00:31 | meeting | <icarito-es> There is a *google *hangout to see us those that are in shape remote |
| 00:31 | <icarito-es> I go to transcribe what speak *aqui but all are free to write what wish | |
| 00:33 | <icarito-es> It finishes to arrive Paul *Deza | |
| 00:34 | <icarito-es> We are *aqui *kiko *mayorga, *yannick *warnier, anita *chan, *laura *vargas, *juan *camilo lemma, *sebastian *silva, *koke *contreras and *paul *deza | |
| 00:34 | <icarito-es> *juan *camilo Is opening a channel with KaiXo by *google *hangout | |
| 00:35 | <icarito-es> *juan *camilo Goes to share a presentation | |
| 00:36 | <icarito-es> The channel of chat is by *aqui so that it remain documented | |
| 00:36 | icarito | #sugar-meeting-es |
| 00:37 | meeting | * Koke_-es has joined |
| 00:37 | icarito | anita, #sugar-meeting-es |
| 00:38 | meeting | <icarito-es> There are technical problems with *google *hangout |
| 00:38 | <icarito-es> *juan *camilo Goes to call to *puno by telephone | |
| 00:38 | <icarito-es> They spoke that they go to connect by *skype | |
| 00:38 | <icarito-es> *juan *camilo Opens the session | |
| 00:39 | <icarito-es> In the record remain fixed that has closed the *google *hangout | |
| 00:39 | <icarito-es> *jclema Says that 2 hours | |
| 00:39 | <icarito-es> it is conversing *sober The diary | |
| 00:40 | <icarito-es> kaametza, it says that we are 5 members of the board | |
| 00:40 | <icarito-es> The model of *sugar *labs are 7 | |
| 00:40 | <icarito-es> kaametza it says that it has to define the *membresía and constitute the board | |
| 00:40 | <icarito-es> *jclema Proposes to begin with a retrospective | |
| 00:41 | <icarito-es> From *Sugar *Camp Lima 2011 | |
| 00:41 | ywarnier has left #sugar-meeting | |
| 00:41 | meeting | <icarito-es> It goes to speak of the budget |
| 00:41 | <icarito-es> "sin importar lo que descubramos, comprendemos y verdaderamente creemos que todos hicieron el mejor trabajo posible, dado lo que sabían a ese momento, sus capacidades y habilidades y recursos disponbles" | |
| 00:42 | <icarito-es> *jclema Asks that all agree on this | |
| 00:42 | <icarito-es> "no se critican opiniones sino que se escucha y responden a dudas" | |
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| 00:43 | meeting | <icarito-es> *jclema Begins speaking on *Sugar *Camp 2011 |
| 00:43 | <alfredo-es> +1 | |
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| 00:43 | <icarito-es> kaametza, it offers the word | |
| 00:43 | <raulhugo-es> :) | |
| 00:43 | <icarito-es> We are treating to establish *comunicacion with the boys of *puno | |
| 00:44 | <icarito-es> *jclema Is to the *telefono | |
| 00:44 | <icarito-es> And anita it offers his *pc | |
| 00:45 | <icarito-es> anita it is by *skype with neyder | |
| 00:46 | <icarito-es> * Proofs of audio * | |
| 00:46 | <raulhugo-es> hello :) | |
| 00:46 | <ywarnier-es> * It mentions the list of the assistants * | |
| 00:47 | <icarito-es> We follow coordinating | |
| 00:48 | <icarito-es> *juan *camilo Has a *presentacion | |
| 00:48 | <icarito-es> Without mattering what discover, comprise and truly think that all did the best possible work, given what knew to this moment, his capacities and skills and resources *disponbles" | |
| 00:48 | <icarito-es> And the *situacion | |
| 00:48 | <icarito-es> Two principles | |
| 00:49 | <icarito-es> Honest and constructive | |
| 00:49 | <icarito-es> Opportunity to listen to the *demas openly | |
| 00:49 | <icarito-es> 2 subjects: "lo bueno" | |
| 00:49 | <icarito-es> "lo que queremos mejorar" | |
| 00:49 | <icarito-es> "no vamos a criticar la opinion de las personas pero se escucha pueden hacer preguntas si se tienen dudas | |
| 00:49 | <icarito-es> *jclema Continues | |
| 00:50 | <icarito-es> It says that we continue | |
| 00:50 | <icarito-es> *laura Asks that it open the *pagina of *sugar *camp file 2011 | |
| 00:50 | <icarito-es> *jclema "lo bueno" and "lo por mejroar" | |
| 00:50 | <icarito-es> kaametza, good nights | |
| 00:50 | <icarito-es> #link http://sugarcamp.somosazucar.org/ | |
| 00:50 | <icarito-es> We were summoned to realise an up to date image | |
| 00:51 | <icarito-es> For the boys of the *region of *puno, *peru | |
| 00:51 | <icarito-es> A marathon of work *colaborativo | |
| 00:51 | <icarito-es> That they do in several occasions | |
| 00:51 | <icarito-es> Second time that does this methodology | |
| 00:51 | <icarito-es> The first was *Misky *Pachamama 2010 | |
| 00:51 | <icarito-es> They propose several works and summons to lead of the teams of voluntary translators | |
| 00:52 | <icarito-es> *irma *alvarez And *edgar *quispe | |
| 00:52 | <icarito-es> kaametza, #link http://*sugarcamp,somosazucar.org/maraton.html | |
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| 00:53 | <icarito-es> The work of *traduccion of *Sugar *Camp *Puno 2020 (*Misky *Pachamama) lost | |
| 00:53 | <icarito-es> The power of voluntary announcement was low | |
| 00:53 | <icarito-es> The aims that reached were modest | |
| 00:54 | <icarito-es> It consolidated a group of translators directed by cjl the one who assumed like coordinator | |
| 00:54 | <icarito-es> *irma *alvarez *lideraria Instrument *quechua and *edgar *quispe to lead the team *aimara | |
| 00:54 | <icarito-es> Both continue executing his roles | |
| 00:54 | <icarito-es> We will look the plans to continue the process of translation | |
| 00:55 | <icarito-es> The second activity "ciudadanía digital" proposal by Koke_ | |
| 00:55 | <icarito-es> To range us with the contents of the ministry | |
| 00:55 | <icarito-es> And also the focus in native tongues | |
| 00:56 | <icarito-es> *sugar *camp Was thought for 3 tongues, *aymara, *quechua and 1 tongue *amazonic | |
| 00:56 | <icarito-es> The community *amazonica *sipiba asked economic compensation and the production decided to give him priority to the communities *quechua and *aymara | |
| 00:56 | <icarito-es> (No *habia presupposed to pay them) | |
| 00:57 | <icarito-es> "integrar a las comunidades amazonicas es parte de la agenda de somosazucar.org" | |
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| 00:57 | <icarito-es> It proposed the activity *ciudadania digital to complement the *ofrecimiento of available contents in the image of operating system of *ULPN | |
| 00:57 | <icarito-es> (A *Laptop by Boy) | |
| 00:58 | <icarito-es> It did not advance during *Sugar *Camp greater work on the realisation of this work | |
| 00:58 | <icarito-es> Part of the budget proposed for the *produccion of *hexoquinasa includes contained | |
| 00:58 | <icarito-es> ywarnier, it asks that it define *hexoquinasa | |
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| 00:59 | <icarito-es> kaametza, "hexoquinasa es el resultado esperado de Sugar Camp 2011" | |
| 00:59 | <icarito-es> It posed collaborate with *escuelab and *runasimipi | |
| 00:59 | * jclema-es has joined | |
| 00:59 | <icarito-es> The announcement to all these volunteers had a called to deliver a final result that designate *Hexoquinasa | |
| 01:00 | <icarito-es> #link http://pe.sugarlabs.org/go/pro[…]iloto_hexoquinasa | |
| 01:00 | <icarito-es> ywarnier, it asks the one who took the responsibility of each activity of the project | |
| 01:00 | <KaiXo-es> *ahi Have something that say | |
| 01:01 | <icarito-es> Each person assumed different levels of responsibility | |
| 01:01 | <icarito-es> neyder speaking now | |
| 01:01 | <icarito-es> *sobe *conversacion Between kaametza, KaiXo, neyder, *jose *antonio, and icarito | |
| 01:02 | <icarito-es> It says that with *jose *antonio (*DREP *Puno) spoke to give priority to the educational | |
| 01:02 | <icarito-es> *segun KaiXo the translations did not lose | |
| 01:02 | <icarito-es> cjl | |
| 01:03 | <icarito-es> jclema asking where is documented | |
| 01:03 | <icarito-es> neyder, it says that there is a *fotografia of a blackboard | |
| 01:03 | <icarito-es> neyder, it says that in *picasa of *escuelab *puno | |
| 01:04 | cjl | http://translate.sugarlabs.org/ |
| 01:04 | meeting | <KaiXo-es> We are not retorting, but *acotandop |
| 01:04 | <icarito-es> kaametza, *irma called the attention on the loss of these translations | |
| 01:04 | <icarito-es> cjl, *perdon, can confirm us the % of *traduccion *quechua before *sugar *camp? | |
| 01:05 | <KaiXo-es> That no *perdiio but they are still in *pootle of *sugarlabs | |
| 01:05 | <cjl-es> Translations of the 2010 have not lost by complete, but the sugar had changed a lot | |
| 01:05 | <icarito-es> cjl there is an user | |
| 01:06 | <cjl-es> icarito: *very *low *percentage | |
| 01:06 | <icarito-es> cjl, *misky_*qu | |
| 01:06 | <icarito-es> % *translated *by *misky_*qu | |
| 01:06 | <icarito-es> neyder and KaiXo they are affirming that the work of *sugar *camp 2010 has not lost | |
| 01:06 | <icarito-es> They say that they are like "sugerencias" | |
| 01:07 | <KaiXo-es> *sip | |
| 01:07 | <cjl-es> We treat to obtain more archives of the lady that went eastwards, do not remember his name.\ | |
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| 01:08 | meeting | <KaiXo-es> cjl this speaking of The councillor of *Puno of the *MPP |
| 01:08 | <icarito-es> *paul *deza Says that it has to define the one who goes to do manager to confirm the no-lost of the *contribucion | |
| 01:09 | <KaiXo-es> This can confirm it cjl | |
| 01:09 | <icarito-es> *koke Asks the word | |
| 01:09 | <cjl-es> Yes, the previous work has conserved like suggestions in the glossary so that they can go back to use if possible. | |
| 01:09 | <ywarnier-es> David, did not understand, say that it is in the *wiki of *sugarlabs, or where? | |
| 01:10 | <icarito-es> kaametza, *irma *afiram that lost *segun *irma | |
| 01:10 | <icarito-es> It decides continue | |
| 01:10 | <ywarnier-es> (By the audio am not sure to having understood) | |
| 01:10 | <icarito-es> jclema it says that the *idae is to define on the taking of *responsabiildades | |
| 01:10 | <icarito-es> *koke Affirms that it is looking for do reference to the 2011 | |
| 01:10 | <icarito-es> And from now on | |
| 01:11 | <icarito-es> *koke Was with *edgar while it advanced on the translation to distance | |
| 01:11 | <icarito-es> In 2010 | |
| 01:11 | <ywarnier-es> neyder, you can happen my question to *david *porfa? | |
| 01:11 | <icarito-es> (On the *traduccion *aymara) | |
| 01:11 | <jclema-es> Boys *enfonquemonos in the *retro of the *sugarcamp2011 | |
| 01:11 | <icarito-es> Koke_, it comments the experience of *edgar in 2010 | |
| 01:12 | <icarito-es> Koke_, "lo bueno" a lot of minds and *espiritus brilliant gathered | |
| 01:12 | <icarito-es> Koke_, it says that it is an example that does not occur in the common | |
| 01:12 | <icarito-es> This type of production | |
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| 01:12 | meeting | <icarito-es> Opportunity to participate in a methodology *colaborativa |
| 01:13 | <icarito-es> Koke_, for the one who for the first time participates of this way, is a very big crash | |
| 01:13 | <icarito-es> *sugar *camp: Methodology for construction of knowledge | |
| 01:13 | <icarito-es> "modelo replicable en formas de comunicacion" | |
| 01:14 | <icarito-es> "valiosas para aprender a comunicarnos" | |
| 01:14 | <icarito-es> "desde la perspectiva de los maestros" | |
| 01:14 | <icarito-es> "la creación" | |
| 01:14 | <KaiXo-es> "Basada en personar y no en plataformas" | |
| 01:14 | <icarito-es> Identify moments and creative beaks | |
| 01:14 | <icarito-es> KaiXo, you are quoting? | |
| 01:14 | <KaiXo-es> *sip | |
| 01:14 | <icarito-es> KaiXo, to the one who? | |
| 01:14 | <icarito-es> *koke Has not said this | |
| 01:15 | <KaiXo-es> It is the bottom of his speech | |
| 01:15 | <icarito-es> *koke Says that of different ways has distributed the knowledge | |
| 01:15 | <icarito-es> *koke Does a *autocritica to the work entrusted by the *comundiad for the subject of the catalog of contents | |
| 01:15 | <icarito-es> In this measure have to improve in a too ambitious aim without being able to us gather before with an aim improved | |
| 01:15 | <icarito-es> Without a clear methodology that was for defining | |
| 01:16 | <icarito-es> "o tomamos contenidos distribuidos en la red o adaptamos actividades existentes y las contextualizamos" | |
| 01:16 | <icarito-es> A way is the *adaptacion and improvement of the content in a local context | |
| 01:16 | <icarito-es> In the context of *nua big demand | |
| 01:16 | <icarito-es> And *diversificacion *curricular | |
| 01:17 | <KaiXo-es> This is *metodologia *pedagogica | |
| 01:17 | <icarito-es> kaametza, it affirms that in the budget of *hexoquinsasa there is a game of budget to access to content of high quality | |
| 01:17 | <alfredo-es> *Kaixo +1 | |
| 01:17 | <icarito-es> alfredo, KaiXo all very but without *comillas if it is not textual *porfavor | |
| 01:18 | <icarito-es> kaametza, it affirms again that are retarded with the contents | |
| 01:18 | <icarito-es> jclema *estamo speaking of the retrospective of *sugarcamp-> until today | |
| 01:18 | <KaiXo-es> But as it uses the educational the *XO (contents), improve his use in Class | |
| 01:18 | <icarito-es> jclema it is an event of collaboration | |
| 01:18 | <KaiXo-es> Have something that say | |
| 01:19 | <icarito-es> neyder it says on the methodology of *sugar *camp | |
| 01:19 | <icarito-es> "una metodologia santificada perfecta mejorada no funcionará en cualquier lugar de la misma forma" | |
| 01:20 | <icarito-es> *kiko Says that the well is the sum of the people is the important the aims are subjective | |
| 01:20 | <icarito-es> kikomayorga, it affirms that it was not clear the aim for the and wanted to contribute the best of him to the event | |
| 01:20 | <icarito-es> kikomayorga, it wanted to change the situation of existent lawsuit | |
| 01:21 | <alfredo-es> Claro, "no porque tenga un martillo en la mano, todos mis problemas van a tener forma de clavo" | |
| 01:21 | <icarito-es> KaiXo, it affirms that it has to see well the subject of the fault of success of *sugar | |
| 01:21 | <icarito-es> KaiXo, it says that the *XO work for the educational in his classroom | |
| 01:21 | <icarito-es> And it was him useful | |
| 01:22 | <alfredo-es> +1 | |
| 01:22 | <raulhugo-es> +1 | |
| 01:22 | <icarito-es> anita *pidio the question | |
| 01:22 | <kikomayorga-es> +1 | |
| 01:22 | <icarito-es> To organise *sugar *camp file 2011 - that it had to invest each one? | |
| 01:22 | <icarito-es> anita, it asks after the budget of *Sugar *Camp 2011 | |
| 01:23 | <icarito-es> kaametza, the role is voluntary | |
| 01:23 | <jclema-es> anita, *cual was the model of participation inside the *sugarcamp | |
| 01:23 | <icarito-es> But it expects fulfillment of what each one holds responsible | |
| 01:23 | <icarito-es> kaametza, there is a report of *produccion and budget of *sugar *camp 2011 | |
| 01:24 | <icarito-es> anita *pergunta how paid the passages | |
| 01:24 | <icarito-es> kaametza, #link http://pe.sugarlabs.org/go/sugarcamp_lima_2011 | |
| 01:25 | <KaiXo-es> "No esta muy claro el informa de tesoreria" | |
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| 01:27 | meeting | <icarito-es> kaametza, it is doing several explanations on the repayments done |
| 01:27 | <KaiXo-es> "Quienes aprobaron el reembolso de Irma Alvarez" | |
| 01:28 | <icarito-es> kaametza, it describes "la piedra" in the shoe that are the repayments of the terrestrial transport of Laura and Sebastian | |
| 01:28 | <icarito-es> raulhugo, it affirms that it has to inform to all | |
| 01:28 | <KaiXo-es> "Pero el dinero de la donacion no se donaron para eso, segun Bernie" | |
| 01:29 | <icarito-es> raulhugo, it affirms that it has to inform all what does | |
| 01:29 | <KaiXo-es> +1 | |
| 01:29 | <icarito-es> *aymar Is speaking on the importance of the methodology in the *sugar *camps | |
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| 01:30 | <icarito-es> *aymar Was part of the team of *traduccion *aymara | |
| 01:30 | <icarito-es> *aymar Says that for the *traduccion there was not context | |
| 01:30 | <icarito-es> *david Says that it has to inform of everything | |
| 01:31 | <icarito-es> On donations that *segun KaiXo have been badly addressed | |
| 01:31 | <icarito-es> "no siempre tenemos una opinion buena" | |
| 01:31 | <icarito-es> That it has to define between the members of the board | |
| 01:31 | <icarito-es> Decisions that are important | |
| 01:31 | <icarito-es> They have to be done with transparency | |
| 01:31 | <icarito-es> Between the team | |
| 01:31 | <icarito-es> *yannick Asks the word | |
| 01:32 | <icarito-es> neyder, it says that an event for the community does not have to have bosses or upper | |
| 01:32 | <icarito-es> If you lead | |
| 01:32 | <raulhugo-es> It wants to take the word | |
| 01:32 | <icarito-es> *aymar Asks that when they avenge remain a while | |
| 01:32 | <ywarnier-es> *I first* :-) | |
| 01:33 | <icarito-es> *yannick Wants to have the clear things | |
| 01:33 | <icarito-es> Quoting the post of *irma | |
| 01:33 | <icarito-es> The *unica incongruence would be on the mount of the repayment of trip | |
| 01:33 | <icarito-es> Of *irma | |
| 01:34 | <icarito-es> kaametza, the conversations did by *skype and offered do the repayment | |
| 01:35 | <icarito-es> kaametza, it asks clarity in *als communications | |
| 01:35 | <KaiXo-es> "es importante conocer a las personas, antes de decir que ellos accedieron, a veces el silencio de algunos no es necesariamente la aceptacion" | |
| 01:35 | <icarito-es> KaiXo, ""? | |
| 01:36 | <icarito-es> *jclema Says that if *irma considers that it has to him something more, would have to *reembolsarse | |
| 01:36 | <KaiXo-es> Irma withdraw of the request, by that was tired of so much problem. | |
| 01:36 | <icarito-es> kaametza, speech on the countable support with a *comprobante by costs | |
| 01:37 | <icarito-es> *kiko Says that a statement of *irma suffices | |
| 01:37 | <icarito-es> *jclema Affirms that this is not *excluyente | |
| 01:37 | <icarito-es> *jclema Have to go out of the *informalidad | |
| 01:38 | <KaiXo-es> It went the audio | |
| 01:38 | <raulhugo-es> It goes down the *volumne | |
| 01:38 | <icarito-es> kaametza "no puede haber reembolso sin papelito" | |
| 01:38 | <icarito-es> *segun *jclema | |
| 01:39 | <icarito-es> It is necessary to carry a countable support to justify the budget | |
| 01:39 | <KaiXo-es> All passage *aereo has receipt *electronico | |
| 01:39 | <icarito-es> anita it says that each person contributes a lot to this small team | |
| 01:39 | <KaiXo-es> They follow the problems of audio | |
| 01:40 | <raulhugo-es> I create *ue have to value but the people | |
| 01:40 | <raulhugo-es> But that the processes | |
| 01:40 | <icarito-es> anita, the presence of these people has value | |
| 01:40 | <KaiXo-es> +1 *raul | |
| 01:40 | <raulhugo-es> We hate it *rigidas that they are the bureaucracies, and go to do a bureaucracy *aqui? | |
| 01:40 | <icarito-es> raulhugo, we do not hate to anybody | |
| 01:41 | <icarito-es> :-) | |
| 01:41 | <KaiXo-es> It suffices of sarcasms | |
| 01:41 | <raulhugo-es> No hate to the *burocratas | |
| 01:41 | <raulhugo-es> But if the system | |
| 01:41 | <raulhugo-es> :) | |
| 01:41 | <KaiXo-es> *todav'*ia Do not listen at all | |
| 01:41 | <Koke_-es> The countable supports also have like documents the statements sworn. | |
| 01:41 | <KaiXo-es> *koke +1 | |
| 01:42 | <icarito-es> anita, since we are boys is not badly that no each agreement was documented | |
| 01:42 | <icarito-es> kikomayorga, we have to be flexible | |
| 01:42 | <icarito-es> anita, it does fault the presence of *aymar | |
| 01:43 | <icarito-es> There is a subject to feel included | |
| 01:43 | <icarito-es> It is important that organise a date to participate all | |
| 01:43 | <icarito-es> *aymar Wants to ratify this thought | |
| 01:44 | <anita-es> And it does fault the presence of *irma | |
| 01:45 | <KaiXo-es> The image of a tongue *originaria is very used, as mere propaganda | |
| 01:45 | <KaiXo-es> *ok The *demas are not invited? | |
| 01:46 | <Koke_-es> If they are participating | |
| 01:46 | * jclema-es has joined | |
| 01:46 | <raulhugo-es> icarito it says that no all are members | |
| 01:46 | <jclema-es> icarito, it says us that it is what want to agree *aqui | |
| 01:46 | <KaiXo-es> *osea *SL *Peru Is exclusive | |
| 01:46 | <icarito-es> icarito it took the word | |
| 01:46 | <raulhugo-es> Only some | |
| 01:46 | <Koke_-es> This is an open space, however there are decisions that has to take the board | |
| 01:46 | <icarito-es> In December did an assembly to choose a board | |
| 01:46 | <raulhugo-es> Those that wanted to participate | |
| 01:46 | <icarito-es> It is principle of *sugar *labs be transparent and open | |
| 01:46 | <icarito-es> All are welcome | |
| 01:46 | <icarito-es> Of agreement to the agreed procedures | |
| 01:46 | <icarito-es> The same that in *sugar *labs | |
| 01:47 | <icarito-es> This board conformed in December and asks that this board assume the leadership of this *reunion | |
| 01:47 | <icarito-es> And they take *deciciones | |
| 01:47 | <icarito-es> In shape formal | |
| 01:47 | <Koke_-es> *Icarito Refers to the formal subject of the *membesía that is directly related with decisions of administrative type and of management | |
| 01:47 | <icarito-es> kaametza, it affirms they do fault 2 members | |
| 01:47 | <Koke_-es> Mechanisms of organisation and in this there is a level of formality, thus the Board | |
| 01:47 | <icarito-es> In December *definio the procedure to be part of somosazucar.org | |
| 01:48 | <icarito-es> And of *sugar *labs *peru | |
| 01:48 | <KaiXo-es> *aymar Requests that they do not speak for *lso *aymaras | |
| 01:48 | <icarito-es> *puno | |
| 01:48 | <icarito-es> It asks that they go down his volume *porqe there is *feedback | |
| 01:49 | <icarito-es> KaiXo, it says that we happen to another subject | |
| 01:49 | <icarito-es> kaametza, it says that it wants to improve something more and *paul *deza *tambien | |
| 01:49 | <KaiXo-es> Even it is missing the *rendicion of correct accounts of *SCLima, the *p'*agina is very inaccurate | |
| 01:49 | <icarito-es> kaametza, it asks that the board have a *politica publishes on the behaviour in the list of post | |
| 01:50 | <icarito-es> On the accuracy and the respect by the people and his reputation | |
| 01:50 | <icarito-es> The reputations of the people have to be taken care by the board of supervision | |
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| 01:50 | <icarito-es> kaametza, it asks that it establish a code of behaviour because it feels abused and sad | |
| 01:50 | <icarito-es> And it asks explanations | |
| 01:51 | <icarito-es> kaametza, it requests that the things that have been published that they are not true are denied | |
| 01:51 | <icarito-es> "yo no expulsé a nadie de nada" | |
| 01:51 | <icarito-es> "ni hice nada parecido a explotación" | |
| 01:51 | <Koke_-es> Laura asks that we elaborate a code of behaviour | |
| 01:51 | <icarito-es> "neyder no debió hablar mal de laura y llamarla "beautiful face" porque es un comentario sexista | |
| 01:52 | <icarito-es> "todo se peude resolver con el dialogo y el entendimiento pero no se debe traatar asi en la lista" | |
| 01:52 | <icarito-es> KaiXo, it says that there is not problem with that *laura was *lider | |
| 01:53 | <icarito-es> KaiXo, that can not take arbitrary decisions | |
| 01:53 | <icarito-es> The *decision has to be of the community | |
| 01:54 | <icarito-es> KaiXo, They are taking hasty and harmful decisions | |
| 01:54 | <icarito-es> KaiXo, it says that it offered the leadership but did not like them as *asumio | |
| 01:55 | <icarito-es> KaiXo, bernie it said that *puno is in the eyes of *sugar *labs | |
| 01:55 | <icarito-es> KaiXo, they took the spirit of *escuelab to work in *puno | |
| 01:56 | <icarito-es> KaiXo, there is a community in *puno | |
| 01:56 | <raulhugo-es> Well Particularly it did not know of the details of the project therefore I did not comment at all | |
| 01:57 | <KaiXo-es> neyder to'a did not do his *descargoque have asked him | |
| 01:57 | <icarito-es> kaametza, "en ningun momento se les ha cerrado el acceso a los fondos de bernie" | |
| 01:58 | <icarito-es> kaametza, "la cantidad de veces que se ha solicitado un presupuesto a david cruz y se le ha entregado la documentación solicitada" | |
| 01:58 | <icarito-es> Without answer | |
| 01:58 | <icarito-es> *aymar Says that the centralism killed this country | |
| 01:59 | <raulhugo-es> neyder doing his plea | |
| 01:59 | <icarito-es> *antropológicamente Has to consider to regions | |
| 01:59 | <icarito-es> neyder it presents like activist of the equality of generate | |
| 01:59 | <Koke_-es> The methodologies of collaboration look for to break the centralism... | |
| 02:00 | <icarito-es> neyder it says that "cara linda" it does not refer to anybody in particular | |
| 02:00 | <icarito-es> "nosotros nos hemos visto relegados en el trabajo" | |
| 02:01 | <icarito-es> "se daba 8000 dolares al despliegue en puno de 30.000" | |
| 02:01 | <icarito-es> It seemed them minimum | |
| 02:01 | <icarito-es> The sum | |
| 02:01 | <icarito-es> neyder it is taking out details | |
| 02:02 | <icarito-es> Which *aqui kaametza wants to clear | |
| 02:02 | <icarito-es> kaametza 200 *USD for each role by week | |
| 02:02 | <icarito-es> jclema it goes to stop the *conversacion, kaametza *afirm that are but that 3, local producer, agent of contents, coordinator of *quechua, of *aymara, producers of contents, *chaski north, *chaski south | |
| 02:03 | <icarito-es> Regarding the emphasis there has been a problem of *comunicacion | |
| 02:03 | <icarito-es> It has not been able to transmit the aim | |
| 02:03 | <icarito-es> The aim is that the educational *empoderen of the need to improve the system which use | |
| 02:03 | <icarito-es> neyder, "los docentes son usuarios pasivos" | |
| 02:03 | <icarito-es> neyder it is explaining the reason of the post | |
| 02:03 | <icarito-es> And the "explotación" | |
| 02:04 | <icarito-es> jclema you can not use these *plabras neyder | |
| 02:04 | <icarito-es> jclema it clears: this budget is available in a *google *docs | |
| 02:05 | <icarito-es> That it has worked before a *reunion | |
| 02:05 | <raulhugo-es> neyder it says that they explained what feel and | |
| 02:05 | <icarito-es> And it follows *trabajandose | |
| 02:05 | <raulhugo-es> No what is | |
| 02:05 | <icarito-es> kaametza, if *uds do not agree in a game *presupuestada, everything is available to be conversed | |
| 02:05 | <icarito-es> If it has to adjust the activities | |
| 02:05 | <icarito-es> It can do | |
| 02:06 | <icarito-es> neyder it affirms that the *reunion of the *sabado asked that the one who authorised | |
| 02:07 | <icarito-es> neyder, it affirms that if the board did not know these decisions are not valid | |
| 02:07 | <icarito-es> jclema speech of *fornteras of belongings | |
| 02:07 | <icarito-es> neyder it affirms that we are a small initial group | |
| 02:08 | <icarito-es> neyder we have to begin with the sensitivity of a small community | |
| 02:09 | * ywarnier-es has joined | |
| 02:11 | <icarito-es> icarito it affirms that it has had the control of the project until it have been transferred to the board | |
| 02:11 | <jclema-es> jclema, as we go to reconstruct the confidence? | |
| 02:11 | <icarito-es> That today it has for the first time his session | |
| 02:12 | <icarito-es> It has committed a fault and there is not a code of behaviour | |
| 02:12 | <icarito-es> *laura Asks to the board that draft a code of behaviour | |
| 02:12 | <icarito-es> KaiXo, it says in this regard that the communication was initiated by *aleksey *preguntandole to them | |
| 02:13 | cjl | icarito can share the SFC conflict of interest policy |
| 02:13 | meeting | <icarito-es> KaiXo, it expects to see what goes to happen with the bottoms deposited |
| 02:13 | <icarito-es> KaiXo, it affirms that the money used to pay past things | |
| 02:13 | <icarito-es> kaametza, it says that this is not true | |
| 02:14 | <icarito-es> KaiXo, it says that it did other things with the money | |
| 02:14 | <icarito-es> neyder, it says that *pidio *comprension by the rent of 6 months | |
| 02:15 | <icarito-es> neyder, because it did not do the *donacion to *traves of *escuelab | |
| 02:15 | <icarito-es> neyder, it needed the money in December | |
| 02:16 | <icarito-es> kaametza, we speak well of the context | |
| 02:16 | <icarito-es> kaametza, of *uds has not received any application specifies | |
| 02:16 | <icarito-es> Any application of resources has been received | |
| 02:17 | <icarito-es> neyder, "los fondos de bernie eran para puno y algunos proyecto de lima" | |
| 02:18 | <icarito-es> anita "antes de venir a peru estuve en cambridge y estuvo 2 días con bernie y estuvo impresionado de lo que vio en puno" | |
| 02:19 | <icarito-es> kaametza, the active taxpayers of this project have been alsroot, *david, neyder, jclema, icarito and kaametza | |
| 02:19 | <icarito-es> "se recibieron los fondos de bernie" | |
| 02:19 | <icarito-es> "esta destinada para lo que uds propongan" | |
| 02:20 | <raulhugo-es> By that no *esplico this to all???? | |
| 02:20 | <raulhugo-es> Before? | |
| 02:20 | <icarito-es> "aqui documentar los beneficios aprobados para los miembros del proyecto" | |
| 02:21 | <icarito-es> kaametza, "la transaccion sale mucho mas viable y economica de la forma que se hizo pero nadie puede decir que se les ha negado acceso a los fondos" | |
| 02:23 | <icarito-es> *aymar "vengan a puno" | |
| 02:23 | <icarito-es> kaametza, "david me aseguró que el municipio habia dado un local disnpoible a partir del 27 de diciembre" | |
| 02:24 | <icarito-es> kaametza, "uds se comprometieron a asumir gastos del equipo somosazucar.org. nosotros les hemos dado todo el soporte documentario para uds obtener la luz verde del municipio" | |
| 02:24 | <raulhugo-es> neyder, question commanded him a post with what had spent with *aleksey? | |
| 02:24 | <icarito-es> "lamento que sus frustraciones terminen en esto" | |
| 02:24 | <icarito-es> "no me parece que porque no han hecho ninguna solicitud de fondos" | |
| 02:24 | <icarito-es> "en vez de esto uds van enviando correos privados a bernie y luego renuncian frente a sebastian por IRC" | |
| 02:24 | <raulhugo-es> kaametza, to that calls him application?, *odt? | |
| 02:25 | <icarito-es> Afterwards they follow writing in the list accusing and *difamando without any *justificacion | |
| 02:25 | <icarito-es> *koke Asks the word | |
| 02:25 | <icarito-es> KaiXo, "solicitamos unas cartas que no nos sirvieron" | |
| 02:25 | <icarito-es> The municipality has answered that "es una empresa" | |
| 02:26 | <icarito-es> kaametza, KaiXo your *tiviste access to the draft of the letter | |
| 02:26 | <icarito-es> kaametza, we are speaking of the letter that *sebastian *silva and *laura *vargas signed | |
| 02:26 | <raulhugo-es> KaiXo, you said Him to *laura that did not serve you? | |
| 02:26 | <icarito-es> KaiXo, the letter that was signed by walterbender was asked in a sense and could not sign | |
| 02:27 | <icarito-es> KaiXo, the letter of *uds that was here looked for the NGO and did not find | |
| 02:27 | <icarito-es> kaametza, *despues of a lot of *dias of conversations walterbender issued the letter | |
| 02:27 | <KaiXo-es> If | |
| 02:27 | <icarito-es> If these letters did not serve them, this out of our hands | |
| 02:27 | <kikomayorga-es> #link (late) https://plus.google.com/photos[…]277746?banner=pwa | |
| 02:28 | <raulhugo-es> *koke | |
| 02:28 | <raulhugo-es> It wants to say something | |
| 02:29 | <icarito-es> kaametza it clears that third entities (do not know still) is looking for the budget | |
| 02:29 | <icarito-es> *koke Says good nights to all | |
| 02:29 | <raulhugo-es> *Koke Speech :) | |
| 02:29 | <icarito-es> *koke Says that it is a space of *comunicacion and opportunity to know us | |
| 02:29 | <icarito-es> We have to take advantage of these spaces to arrive to concrete points | |
| 02:29 | <icarito-es> And exits | |
| 02:29 | <icarito-es> To actions to give steps from now on | |
| 02:30 | <icarito-es> The real with sincerity "trabajar con el ministerio (yo vengo del ministerio y tuve posiciones criticas)" | |
| 02:30 | <icarito-es> "casi literalmente no trabajo en el ministerio por mi compromiso con la comunidad" | |
| 02:30 | <icarito-es> "nosotros somos comunidad" | |
| 02:30 | <raulhugo-es> We do not put bureaucracies in the community | |
| 02:30 | <icarito-es> "eso no es sencillo" | |
| 02:31 | <KaiXo-es> +1Koke_. | |
| 02:31 | <raulhugo-es> :*S | |
| 02:31 | <icarito-es> "si nosotros vamos a construir comunidad, esto no es sencillo" | |
| 02:31 | <raulhugo-es> With patience and good trial | |
| 02:31 | <icarito-es> "estamos en la mesa TIC tratando de constuir comunidad con otros agentes" | |
| 02:31 | <raulhugo-es> Can do it | |
| 02:31 | <icarito-es> We are in a have a conversation that it can resolve by other channels | |
| 02:32 | <icarito-es> Koke_, "aymar dice vayamos a puno - el contexto importa y ahorita estamos resolviendo unt ema de comunidad" | |
| 02:32 | <raulhugo-es> Koke_, it begs to the *aymaras | |
| 02:32 | <icarito-es> Koke_, "yo les suplico con cariño aimara (relata experiencia de trabajar cno edgar)" | |
| 02:32 | <icarito-es> "miremos comunidad y construyamos comunidad" | |
| 02:32 | <raulhugo-es> :) | |
| 02:32 | <icarito-es> "les pido que demos un paso adelante" | |
| 02:33 | <icarito-es> kikomayorga, "cada quien tieen que ubicar su posición en esta estrategia de grupo" | |
| 02:33 | <icarito-es> "los que estan en puno están en puno" | |
| 02:33 | <icarito-es> "los que están en software están en software" | |
| 02:33 | <icarito-es> kikomayorga, it was not clear that the *sugar *camp was part of the strategy of the group that does *softare | |
| 02:34 | <raulhugo-es> There has been lacking of *comunicacion | |
| 02:34 | <icarito-es> kikomayorga, it seems me that by the posts of bernie, are not giving to a project of software | |
| 02:34 | <KaiXo-es> *comunicacon Cultural | |
| 02:34 | <icarito-es> *kiko *propnoe That the money of the *donacion divide between *runasimipi, escuelab.org and *somosazucar | |
| 02:35 | <anita-es> To *kiko: +1 | |
| 02:35 | <raulhugo-es> *Sugarlabs *peru Is a team of software? | |
| 02:36 | <icarito-es> *kiko Clears that it said "escuelab puno" no "Escuelab .org" | |
| 02:36 | <icarito-es> (Pardon) | |
| 02:36 | <anita-es> To the *aclaracion of *kiko: +1 | |
| 02:36 | <icarito-es> kaametza, we are a historical successful group in his attainments and am proud of our group | |
| 02:37 | <icarito-es> It is necessary and evident that have to define the role of the *escuelabs | |
| 02:37 | <icarito-es> This pilot project that are advancing turns into a role model | |
| 02:37 | <KaiXo-es> The table *abrio from the intercultural subject | |
| 02:37 | <icarito-es> If it is not recyclable technology is not *replicable | |
| 02:38 | <icarito-es> The educational have his needs and have experience of field | |
| 02:38 | <icarito-es> Have needs | |
| 02:38 | <icarito-es> All know it | |
| 02:39 | <icarito-es> All the project designed so that the boys and educational have access to the community still without internet | |
| 02:39 | <icarito-es> KaiXo, it says that *aymar and *irma are supporting to personal name and no *runasimipi | |
| 02:40 | <icarito-es> KaiXo, the budget that is presenting to *digete, *hernan *pachas said that the aim is not the software but the professors | |
| 02:41 | <raulhugo-es> *kaixo | |
| 02:41 | <raulhugo-es> There are things that do not know | |
| 02:41 | <icarito-es> *koke Wants to speak | |
| 02:41 | <raulhugo-es> By that we speak with Sandro *tambien | |
| 02:41 | <icarito-es> Koke_, we are speaking of solutions for contexts *unidocente and *multrigrado | |
| 02:41 | <icarito-es> And *ahi if it goes in a subject of platform | |
| 02:41 | <icarito-es> *pq Is an architecture that obeys to this context | |
| 02:42 | <raulhugo-es> They are the 2 sew boys :*S | |
| 02:42 | <raulhugo-es> They complement | |
| 02:42 | <KaiXo-es> *sip | |
| 02:42 | <icarito-es> We are *habladno of schools *disperass that they have to connect with other boys of other surroundings | |
| 02:42 | <icarito-es> That is the context | |
| 02:42 | <icarito-es> *digete Has like priority the *intervencio of the 800.000 *xo | |
| 02:42 | <KaiXo-es> His suitable use of *XO | |
| 02:43 | <KaiXo-es> it *ulyimo Do not listen | |
| 02:43 | <icarito-es> This subject has generated an answer of other actors | |
| 02:43 | <icarito-es> *microsoft, etc | |
| 02:43 | <icarito-es> during a lot of months were striking to the *EBR and to *DIGETE and our message did not understand by Oscar Becerra | |
| 02:43 | <icarito-es> Today if it understands it Sandro *Marcone and is carrying it | |
| 02:44 | <icarito-es> jclema it is a big step have participated *aqui | |
| 02:44 | <icarito-es> jclema has 2 questions for neyder and *david | |
| 02:44 | <icarito-es> From now on we have to think that we go to do | |
| 02:44 | <icarito-es> jclema, "estamos o no en el barco" | |
| 02:44 | <icarito-es> jclema, "que vamos a hacer" | |
| 02:45 | <icarito-es> jclema, the first proposal is to decentralise the taking of decisions from Sebastian and Laura and place in hands of the board | |
| 02:45 | <icarito-es> anita, it proposes that it had to clear the subject of the debate on the rent in *puno | |
| 02:46 | <icarito-es> neyder, it affirms that *aleksey if payment by his rent | |
| 02:46 | <icarito-es> neyder, it affirms that they asked a repayment by the additional expenses of *aleksey that they already covered (light etc) | |
| 02:46 | <icarito-es> neyder, that pay the expenses of the project, for *segiur | |
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| 02:47 | meeting | <icarito-es> The budgets of *hexoquinasa are for *hexoquinasa no for *escuelab *puno |
| 02:48 | <icarito-es> icarito question clear where *uds withdraw of the project | |
| 02:48 | <icarito-es> jclema it asks them if *queiren keep on being part of the project if or no | |
| 02:48 | <icarito-es> neyder, alsroot I ask the conditions to be able to go back to work in community | |
| 02:48 | <raulhugo-es> *cuales Are the conditions? | |
| 02:49 | <raulhugo-es> *Comite Representative | |
| 02:49 | <raulhugo-es> Juan *camilo that take the *deciciones without need of a seen well | |
| 02:49 | <icarito-es> They ask that the leadership of the project take it jclema | |
| 02:50 | <icarito-es> jclema, "yo represento la direccion ejecutiva de la junta - a partir de diciembre esta mesa toma un rol principal en lo que se quiere coordinar" | |
| 02:50 | <icarito-es> "es el momento de definir esto" | |
| 02:50 | <icarito-es> "la forma en la cual se van a manejar cualquier tipo de ingresos que tengan la comunidad" | |
| 02:51 | <icarito-es> kaametza, "y los recursos (tenemos activos, productos máquinas)" | |
| 02:51 | <icarito-es> *paul *deza Has asked the word | |
| 02:52 | <ywarnier-es> Parallel comment: Technically Sebastian informed me today that I am not officially splits of the board by not fulfilling with the requests (that I assume are to be member of *sugarlabs global - it *conversarsé with the when finalising this meeting) | |
| 02:52 | <icarito-es> ^ Truth | |
| 02:52 | <icarito-es> *paul *deza Greets in *aimara | |
| 02:53 | <icarito-es> "la sangre aimara es una sangre muy encendida (mi lengua natal es aimara)" | |
| 02:53 | <icarito-es> "cuando hay una expresion de disconformidad sea esta específica" | |
| 02:53 | <icarito-es> "hay una actitud cuando se habla de comunidad - lleguesmo a una solucion comun" | |
| 02:53 | <icarito-es> "mi propuesta: girar esto y comenzar a buscar respuestas, soluciones | |
| 02:54 | <icarito-es> "porque hemos pasado un rato en desahogar | |
| 02:54 | <icarito-es> "busquemos soluciones y aclaremos | |
| 02:54 | <icarito-es> "queremos que se trabaje con transparencia, implica que antes no lo hubo, por eso hay que ser claro" | |
| 02:55 | <icarito-es> "si nos seguimos quejando echamos mas leña al fuego y enredandonos en mas palabras" | |
| 02:55 | <icarito-es> "muchas gracias" | |
| 02:55 | <icarito-es> jclema, *preunta what go to do | |
| 02:55 | <icarito-es> (It does not listen to *aymar) | |
| 02:55 | <icarito-es> neyder it says that it has to continue and offer solutions | |
| 02:55 | <icarito-es> "vayamos al siguiente nivel" | |
| 02:56 | <icarito-es> "como vamos a solucionar" | |
| 02:56 | <icarito-es> jclema, "qué proponen que hagamos" | |
| 02:56 | <icarito-es> jclema, we close the *reunion in half hour | |
| 02:56 | <icarito-es> jclema, we define to the form as up to now they go to administer the resources of the community and at least a procedure | |
| 02:57 | <icarito-es> jclema, it would be ideal to go out ratifying this board | |
| 02:57 | <icarito-es> Those who are | |
| 02:57 | <icarito-es> jclema, it is *impotante that *tengmaos *algun type of *gobernancia | |
| 02:57 | <cjl-es> *necessitamos Words *aimara *aqui http://translate.sugarlabs.org/aym/ | |
| 02:57 | <icarito-es> We are adopting the rules of *sugar *labs international | |
| 02:57 | <icarito-es> In this frame ratify the members of this board | |
| 02:57 | <KaiXo-es> *perdio The audio | |
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| 02:58 | <icarito-es> The board goes to do a motion to vote | |
| 02:59 | <KaiXo-es> It went the sound | |
| 03:00 | <icarito-es> kaametza, it describes the process of *inscripcion in the board | |
| 03:02 | <raulhugo-es> *Juancamilo | |
| 03:02 | <raulhugo-es> It says that we are *practicos | |
| 03:02 | <raulhugo-es> And we vote all | |
| 03:02 | <raulhugo-es> But | |
| 03:03 | <raulhugo-es> icarito, and kaametza they comment that only it can vote the board | |
| 03:03 | <icarito-es> raulhugo, thank you | |
| 03:03 | <icarito-es> *paul *deza Says a base cost that is to say there is 5 that *etan *aqui, that is valid | |
| 03:04 | <icarito-es> Another *opcion is that "mientras no haya 7" | |
| 03:05 | <icarito-es> kaametza, I asked *publicamente that define the 7 members | |
| 03:05 | <icarito-es> jclema, it looks the list of members | |
| 03:06 | <icarito-es> anita, ask them to the *puno that agree | |
| 03:07 | <icarito-es> jclema, it explains him to the ones of *puno that go to treat to clear | |
| 03:07 | <icarito-es> jclema, *propne decide on: | |
| 03:08 | <icarito-es> "como vamos a gestionar los recursos" | |
| 03:08 | <icarito-es> We go to define a board | |
| 03:08 | <icarito-es> kaametza, *uds have some proposal to be part of the board? | |
| 03:09 | <icarito-es> *paul And *yannick have offered | |
| 03:09 | <icarito-es> kaametza, "de uds deberia haber algun tipo de proactividad y definir a alguien que los represente" | |
| 03:10 | <icarito-es> "queremos proponer un cargo" | |
| 03:10 | <icarito-es> kaametza, this is a community of people | |
| 03:10 | <icarito-es> kaametza, they have to separate his part *juridica | |
| 03:11 | <icarito-es> neyder, We are asking them that the *comundiad *puno have a *repersentante (the president of *escuelab *puno) | |
| 03:11 | <icarito-es> jclema, we need to define a person | |
| 03:12 | <icarito-es> If this person decides to desist his duties notify | |
| 03:12 | <icarito-es> neyder it will notify in the case that *escuelab *puno decide that the representative no longer is cost | |
| 03:12 | <icarito-es> kaametza, there is a period of *duracion of the place | |
| 03:13 | <icarito-es> kaametza, the places are by people no organisations and the members have a period | |
| 03:13 | <KaiXo-es> *perdio The sound | |
| 03:14 | <icarito-es> kaametza, "hay que comunicar a la comnidad como se están tomando decisiones" | |
| 03:14 | <icarito-es> jclema, we have agreed that the members of *SL *Peru belong to *SL Global | |
| 03:14 | <icarito-es> jclema, we ask you that *envies and do follow-up of this process of *membresía | |
| 03:15 | <icarito-es> jclema, in the *transcurso of the *proximos 30 days, neyder | |
| 03:16 | <icarito-es> neyder, it affirms that icarito and kaametza they are a *decision with 2 votes | |
| 03:17 | <icarito-es> kaametza, neyder I go you to request that we do follow-up to the subject of your lack of respect | |
| 03:17 | <icarito-es> kaametza, it is vital that reaffirm a *posicion internal joined | |
| 03:17 | <icarito-es> kaametza, neyder your were missing me the respect and request that this *situacion was corrected | |
| 03:18 | <icarito-es> kaametza, this is the specific application | |
| 03:19 | <icarito-es> "en este momento está difamandose a este grupo y tenemos que mostrar que hemos logrado superar nuestras diferencias y a mi me parece que debe resarcir mi imagen pública" | |
| 03:20 | <icarito-es> icarito it proposes a motion | |
| 03:20 | <icarito-es> In front of the board | |
| 03:20 | <icarito-es> anita it says that it is not an attack with the women | |
| 03:20 | <icarito-es> *paul Asks that it take out the subject of the feminist context | |
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| 03:22 | <icarito-es> "la junta considera que para la construcción de la comunidad es necesario tener un código de conducta para solucionar temas de faltas" | |
| 03:23 | <icarito-es> "la junta considera que para la construcción de la comunidad es necesario tener un código de conducta" | |
| 03:24 | <icarito-es> neyder "estoy dispuesto a aceptar un codigo de conducta y pedir disculpas por el problema que hemos generado por falta de comunicación" | |
| 03:24 | <icarito-es> neyder "la verdadera disculpa la vamos a dar con trabajo" | |
| 03:25 | <icarito-es> kaametza, "de parte nuestra reciban cualquier cantidad de disculpas por cualquier trato que se les haya dado que uds hayan sentido inapropiado, tengan la certeza que fue con buena intención" | |
| 03:25 | <icarito-es> kaametza, I *asumi the responsibility of *ayduar to manage the *emprendimiento and am proud | |
| 03:26 | <icarito-es> kaametza, I have been very affected because have a big team and have handled badly the relations especially to international level | |
| 03:26 | <icarito-es> "la junta considera que para la construcción de la comunidad es necesario tener un código de conducta" | |
| 03:26 | <icarito-es> *MOCION 1. "la junta considera que para la construcción de la comunidad es necesario tener un código de conducta" proposal | |
| 03:26 | <icarito-es> +1 | |
| 03:27 | <icarito-es> *koke +1 | |
| 03:27 | <KaiXo-es> +1 | |
| 03:27 | <jclema-es> +1 | |
| 03:27 | <cjl-es> I think that a *montón of time is being wasted in the "corrección política", happen time of the writing of software or content, no rules. | |
| 03:28 | <icarito-es> neyder, *votacion | |
| 03:28 | <jclema-es> cjl, we are recovering the confidence of the members of the community is important to resolve these subjects | |
| 03:28 | <KaiXo-es> *Neyder +1 | |
| 03:29 | <icarito-es> 4+ votes, *mayoria, accepts the motion | |
| 03:29 | <icarito-es> anita, question if there is a process for *disconformidades | |
| 03:30 | <icarito-es> *kiko Says that the *codigo of behaviour has to include "que la ropa sucia se lava en casa" | |
| 03:31 | <KaiXo-es> *nuestr Side *aymara *salio to light | |
| 03:31 | <icarito-es> *kiko Asks that it do a norm in the *codigo of behaviour | |
| 03:31 | <icarito-es> That the posts conserve the copies | |
| 03:32 | <icarito-es> *kiko And care when copying private posts | |
| 03:33 | <KaiXo-es> It remains us,you without *micro | |
| 03:33 | <icarito-es> Koke_, we have to close | |
| 03:34 | <KaiXo-es> *esescribanlo | |
| 03:34 | <KaiXo-es> *porfavor | |
| 03:35 | <KaiXo-es> Of the members | |
| 03:35 | <icarito-es> Questions on as it reaffirms the board | |
| 03:35 | <KaiXo-es> If | |
| 03:35 | <KaiXo-es> neyder +1 | |
| 03:36 | <icarito-es> kaametza, it says that the board is in 6 members | |
| 03:36 | <KaiXo-es> If | |
| 03:37 | <KaiXo-es> The subject of cultural identity *quechua and *aymara | |
| 03:37 | <icarito-es> kaametza, to take into account assumed to *yannick because *yannick copy us in his application of *membresia of *sugar *labs | |
| 03:37 | <icarito-es> "ombudsman" | |
| 03:37 | <icarito-es> kaametza, it asks to *paul that accept the role of "ombudsman" | |
| 03:38 | <icarito-es> kaametza, it asks that it do a record | |
| 03:38 | <KaiXo-es> Where this publishing the record | |
| 03:39 | <icarito-es> jclema, *MOCION: #*motion "Estamos validando como equipo de trabajo que existe la Junta de Supervisión de Sugar Labs Perú conformada por Laura Vargas, Sebastian Silva, Koke Contreras, Alfredo Gutiérrez, Neyder Achahuanco, Juan Camilo Lema y Yannick Warnier" | |
| 03:40 | <icarito-es> +1 | |
| 03:40 | <KaiXo-es> *Neyder +1 | |
| 03:40 | <jclema-es> +1 | |
| 03:40 | <kaametza-es> +1 | |
| 03:41 | <ywarnier-es> +1 of *Yannick, +1 of *Kiko | |
| 03:41 | <Koke_-es> + 1 | |
| 03:41 | <icarito-es> +1 | |
| 03:42 | <KaiXo-es> There is not audio | |
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| 03:42 | <icarito-es> *MOCION #*motion "Como parte de la estructura de Sugar Labs, se define el rol de 'Ombudsman' - veedor -- agente neutral armonizador del proceso, y este rol se le ha pedido asumir a Paul Deza" | |
| 03:42 | <KaiXo-es> icarito, the *q *estan speaking *escribelo | |
| 03:42 | <raulhugo-es> This *aqui *xD | |
| 03:43 | <jclema-es> +1 | |
| 03:43 | <icarito-es> KaiXo, defining the *mocion | |
| 03:43 | <raulhugo-es> +1 | |
| 03:43 | <icarito-es> +1 | |
| 03:43 | <ywarnier-es> +1, +1 of *Kiko | |
| 03:43 | <kaametza-es> +1 | |
| 03:43 | <Koke_-es> + 1 | |
| 03:44 | <KaiXo-es> It does not listen well the *audo | |
| 03:44 | <KaiXo-es> *audip | |
| 03:44 | <icarito-es> #link http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/sugar_labs/ombudsman | |
| 03:44 | <KaiXo-es> If *porfavor | |
| 03:44 | <icarito-es> "The Ombudsman is a neutral party with whom anyone (member or non-member) may consult privately. The ombudsman makes a monthly report to the Oversight Board and the community. | |
| 03:44 | <icarito-es> *Bert *Freudenberg *is *Ombudsman (*Please Email *ombudsman (*at) sugarlabs.org). " | |
| 03:45 | <KaiXo-es> *Neyder +1 | |
| 03:45 | <KaiXo-es> icarito, *trascribe the conversations | |
| 03:46 | <icarito-es> *juan *camilo Proposes a *mocion | |
| 03:46 | <KaiXo-es> Give him | |
| 03:46 | <icarito-es> jclema, "tenemos que definir un mecanismo" | |
| 03:47 | <icarito-es> ywarnier, it says "en el caso que no haya claridad los fondos se deben rechazar" | |
| 03:47 | <KaiXo-es> I do not create | |
| 03:47 | <icarito-es> kaametza, the clarity of bernie assume it where he affirms that the destination of the bottoms remains in hands of *sebastian and *laura | |
| 03:48 | <KaiXo-es> It has to to review the budget and has to to be *sustentando | |
| 03:48 | <Koke_-es> The bottoms have to be clear in his destination. | |
| 03:49 | <Koke_-es> The Board of Supervision has to guarantee that there are precisions in the delivery of bottoms and resources. | |
| 03:50 | <icarito-es> kaametza, as it works *sugar *labs global | |
| 03:50 | <icarito-es> kaametza, neyder this part is important *qeu your listen | |
| 03:50 | <icarito-es> jclema, we go to agree like giving him handle to the resources | |
| 03:50 | <icarito-es> kaametza, the paper of the board has limited to be a board of *supervision | |
| 03:50 | <icarito-es> The members are free to do and execute his projects | |
| 03:51 | <icarito-es> kaametza, the board is a board of supervision | |
| 03:52 | <icarito-es> anita, taken care because if a professor in *puno needs a project as it does it? | |
| 03:52 | <KaiXo-es> They write by *favorQ | |
| 03:52 | <icarito-es> anita, I have a project, but as it does it a professor in *puno? | |
| 03:52 | <KaiXo-es> neyder it wants to clear, that although we are the community representative of *sugarlabs *peru, are not the *monopoliod *esugar | |
| 03:53 | <icarito-es> kaametza, we are delivering to the board so that satisfied *SL *Peru | |
| 03:53 | <icarito-es> kaametza, it does not want to say that we go us to engage to *gestinoar all the bottoms | |
| 03:53 | <icarito-es> jclema, we speak of active | |
| 03:54 | <icarito-es> kaametza, list of post, blog, *wiki, there are platforms that are active | |
| 03:55 | <icarito-es> anita, no *debemso be a barrier | |
| 03:55 | <icarito-es> kaametza, *aqui is an opportunity for *socializar your projects | |
| 03:56 | <icarito-es> jclema, we do an inventory of active | |
| 03:56 | <icarito-es> icarito the board approves presupposed | |
| 03:57 | <icarito-es> kaametza, we are yielding control of the project of *SUgar *Labs Peru to the board | |
| 03:57 | <icarito-es> *kiko Affirms that this board could manage a new branch of TIES that it devote to *educacion and technology | |
| 03:57 | <KaiXo-es> It understands | |
| 03:57 | <KaiXo-es> neyder *enteinde | |
| 03:57 | <icarito-es> And that this board decide | |
| 03:59 | <icarito-es> *kiko No only there is an inventory of active | |
| 03:59 | <icarito-es> kaametza, now it is necessary to look the balance | |
| 03:59 | <icarito-es> kaametza, it results that have a project in execution from does long | |
| 03:59 | <icarito-es> We are assuming accountings from November | |
| 03:59 | <icarito-es> There are expenses that have done and has to define as they go to be followed doing | |
| 04:00 | <icarito-es> kaametza, what speak with *jorge *villacorta is that we support us in an agreement of collaboration with TIES | |
| 04:00 | <icarito-es> For the management of the resources of *Hexoquinasa | |
| 04:00 | <neyder-es> *ahi Have a *opinion | |
| 04:00 | <icarito-es> And open a unit that was administered by *Sugar *Labs Peru in case that of the entrance of the budget of *Hexoquinasa | |
| 04:00 | <icarito-es> If it does not go in money does not do because there are costs associated | |
| 04:01 | <icarito-es> A new unit of *investigacion that *abririra a unit of *i+*d | |
| 04:02 | <icarito-es> anita it says that it sounds well but that it could be more *inclusivo | |
| 04:03 | <icarito-es> kaametza, it is a project that is in *ejecucion | |
| 04:03 | <icarito-es> kaametza, and we are retarded with some activities | |
| 04:03 | <icarito-es> kaametza, it does lacking to assume this executive management | |
| 04:03 | <icarito-es> KaiXo, a project *demora too much in maturing | |
| 04:04 | <icarito-es> KaiXo, we have to be but open | |
| 04:04 | <icarito-es> KaiXo, when there is maturity can go by the board | |
| 04:05 | <icarito-es> jclema the role of the board is to be a mediator to bring resources and is a supervisor that these resources define for his end | |
| 04:05 | <icarito-es> kaametza, have a project in *ejecucion | |
| 04:05 | <icarito-es> kaametza, the one who goes to assume the roles that does fault | |
| 04:05 | <icarito-es> jclema, we need to close the *reunion | |
| 04:06 | <icarito-es> kaametza, the one who assumes the role of local producer (or another title) | |
| 04:06 | <icarito-es> kaametza, for *uds execute to local level goes to have to have a manager | |
| 04:06 | <icarito-es> kaametza, box C19 in the budget | |
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| 04:07 | meeting | <icarito-es> The *supervision is of *sugar *labs *peru but the *ejecucion follows *haciendose |
| 04:07 | <icarito-es> KaiXo, the name can be *x but has to define the responsibilities | |
| 04:08 | <icarito-es> kaametza, question to KaiXo if it assumes this role | |
| 04:09 | <icarito-es> kaametza, #*mocion "para efectos del proyecto hexoquinasa se pide que se defina un responsable en puno de la gestion local" | |
| 04:09 | <icarito-es> *aqiu The team protests that the *reunoin this widespread | |
| 04:10 | <icarito-es> icarito #*motion "la junta acepta de parte de los líderes del proyecto hexoquinasa la responsabilidad por la ejecución del proyecto, aprobando y agradeciendo su gestión hasta ahora" | |
| 04:11 | <icarito-es> +1 | |
| 04:11 | <ywarnier-es> +1 | |
| 04:11 | <Koke_-es> + 1 | |
| 04:11 | <jclema-es> +1 | |
| 04:11 | <kaametza-es> +1 | |
| 04:11 | <Koke_-es> We vote | |
| 04:11 | <neyder-es> +1 | |
| 04:12 | <Koke_-es> And I think that already we arrive at the end of the meeting | |
| 04:12 | <Koke_-es> We see us very soon | |
| 04:12 | <icarito-es> kaametza, we are making history | |
| 04:12 | <Koke_-es> Greetings to all by there | |
| 04:12 | <icarito-es> kaametza, to take out this *pais advance with help of technology | |
| 04:12 | <Koke_-es> An embrace in the distance and follow it... | |
| 04:13 | <Koke_-es> They put that I have to withdraw... | |
| 04:13 | <icarito-es> Thanks to all sincerely | |
| 04:13 | <kaametza-es> Thanks to all! | |
| 04:13 | <ywarnier-es> Equally | |
| 04:13 | <KaiXo-es> *aymar *ccopacati Says there are problems *culturaes deep that it is necessary to save or lose | |
| 04:13 | <Koke_-es> Greetings to all... Now advance the work and follow it... | |
| 04:13 | <icarito-es> KaiXo, we have to begin to *trbajar | |
| 04:14 | <icarito-es> jclema, it proposes that the *proximo step is to range the *vision of the project *hexoquinasa | |
| 04:14 | <icarito-es> kaametza, they are several parts that have to join up | |
| 04:14 | <icarito-es> The needs of the ministry, the boys , the educational | |
| 04:14 | <icarito-es> We are learning | |
| 04:14 | <Koke_-es> Next meeting? | |
| 04:14 | <icarito-es> kaametza, it asks that there is space for the *experimentacion, to the *experimentacion and the error | |
| 04:14 | <Koke_-es> There is a date for the next meeting? | |
| 04:15 | <KaiXo-es> *aymara *qmaqi *janiw *inamayaqu9*i *intentayasqpaptijia *yatiqsnaqti *qamacha'*aniwa | |
| 04:15 | <icarito-es> jclema, question if we coordinate the *reunion by the list | |
| 04:15 | <icarito-es> kaametza, it asks a *motion | |
| 04:16 | <icarito-es> #*motion "como junta directiva preparamos un comunicado para publicar a nivel de todas las listas exponiendo que somos producto del aprendizaje y que estamos asumiendo nuestros roles de laboratorio local a nivel internacional, con las disculpas del caso a la comunidad internacional" | |
| 04:16 | <icarito-es> ywarnier, "añadiendo que los problemas particulares con las personas se han resuelto" | |
| 04:17 | <kaametza-es> +1 | |
| 04:17 | <neyder-es> A communiqué of the board | |
| 04:17 | <jclema-es> +1 | |
| 04:17 | <ywarnier-es> +1 | |
| 04:17 | <icarito-es> #*motion "como junta directiva preparamos un comunicado para publicar a nivel de todas las listas exponiendo que somos producto del aprendizaje y que estamos asumiendo nuestros roles de laboratorio local a nivel internacional, con las disculpas del caso a la comunidad internacional añadiendo que los problemas particulares con las personas se han resuelto" | |
| 04:17 | <Koke_-es> + 1 (no to the scandal) | |
| 04:17 | <raulhugo-es> +1 | |
| 04:17 | <icarito-es> +1 | |
| 04:17 | <kaametza-es> +1 | |
| 04:17 | <icarito-es> jclema, this finish | |
| 04:17 | <neyder-es> +1 | |
| 04:17 | <ywarnier-es> +1 | |
| 04:18 | <Koke_-es> Greetings!!! | |
| 04:18 | <icarito-es> *kaixo Comes to file | |
| 04:18 | <ywarnier-es> (The last +1 was so that jclema put to charge of the editorial of the report) | |
| 04:18 | <neyder-es> We come to file the 11 to the 15 | |
| 04:18 | <icarito-es> thank you Of part of all | |
| 04:18 | <Koke_-es> We follow it... | |
| 04:18 | <icarito-es> kaametza, I am happy that have attained to resolve but *teniamos that go through she | |
| 04:19 | <icarito-es> kaametza, we appreciate and they have we like allies | |
| 04:19 | <Koke_-es> *bip *bip *bip *bip | |
| 04:19 | <Koke_-es> We go us | |
| 04:19 | <icarito-es> *kaixo Self-evident his gratitudes | |
| 04:19 | <ywarnier-es> To you | |
| 04:19 | <Koke_-es> Until prompt... | |
| 04:19 | <icarito-es> I go to do # *endmeeting in | |
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| 04:19 | <icarito-es> 1 | |
| 04:19 | <Koke_-es> We follow it... | |
| 04:19 | <icarito-es> #endmeeting | |
| 04:19 | <jclema-es> End | |
| 04:19 | <KaiXo-es> #endmeeting | |
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