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| 00:06 | neyder | here we are! bernie cjl icarito |
| 00:06 | Ariel_Calzada has quit IRC | |
| 00:07 | cjl | hello neyder |
| 00:07 | neyder | \o cjl |
| 00:07 | the meeting is for this time, Am I right? | |
| 00:07 | cjl | I thought so |
| 00:09 | I have not been online much, I have been at my mother's. Unfortunately, her cancer is back and I have been taking here for daily radiation treatments. | |
| 00:10 | neyder | i'm so sorry to hear about that, and having you to be here. |
| 00:11 | cjl | I am not sure I completely understand how we have gotten from the group I met at SugarCampLiam to the group at odds with each other I see in the recent e-mails. |
| 00:13 | I may not have been following things as closely as I should have, but I do hope that common goals can ne identified and ways to work towards those common goals developed. | |
| 00:13 | KaiXo <KaiXo!~KaiXo 201.240.232.134> has joined #sugar-meeting |
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| 00:13 | quidam | hi neyder, long time |
| 00:14 | cjl | hey quidam How was the rest of your trip after DC? |
| 00:14 | KaiXo | quidam, hi |
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| 00:14 | neyder | hi quidam i shuld be! |
| 00:15 | cjl | hello KaiXo |
| 00:15 | KaiXo | quidam, como es la receta dela keymada |
| 00:15 | cjl, hi Criss | |
| 00:15 | quidam | cjl: it was awesome, I have to post some pictures as soon as I have my dsl back |
| 00:16 | cjl | KaiXo: Si usted está hablando en español, por favor únase a canal #sugar-meeting-es para que podamos tomar ventaja de las traducciones por el robot de la reunión. /join #sugar-meeting-es |
| 00:16 | quidam | KaiXo: oh, the queimada... :) |
| 00:16 | meeting | <cjl-es> If you is speaking in Spanish, please join to channel #sugar-meeting-es so that we can take advantage of the translations by the robot of the meeting. /*join #sugar-meeting-es |
| 00:16 | KaiXo | quidam, okey |
| 00:16 | neyder | cjl, we are not sure, couple weeks ago we have heard about thing with very bas smelling |
| 00:17 | cjl | bernie ping |
| 00:19 | KaiXo | quidam, si se quedo pendiente de la queimada |
| 00:19 | quidam | neyder: please explain your point of view |
| 00:20 | I have little information about all this... | |
| 00:20 | neyder | I prefer to talk when everyone is available, but if you want |
| 00:21 | quidam | no, it is ok |
| 00:21 | meeting | <KaiXo-es> If we expect a bit |
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| 00:23 | cjl | Kaixo, Thank you for using #sugar-meeting-es it helps me to see both English and Spanish I do not want to misunderstand. |
| 00:23 | icarito | hi the last communication with bernie, we said 8PM (UTC-5) |
| 00:23 | so everyone is 45 early | |
| 00:24 | hi quidam nice to read you :-) | |
| 00:24 | meeting | <KaiXo-es> cjl, but thank you you, to be able to express better what want to say |
| 00:24 | quidam | hello icarito :) |
| 00:24 | meeting | <KaiXo-es> icarito, *hi |
| 00:25 | <KaiXo-es> well We expect to bernie | |
| 00:25 | icarito | cjl sorry to read about the bad news with your mother, we will keep her in mind in our prayers |
| 00:25 | cjl | thank you |
| 00:31 | neyder | icarito, yup! so we are early |
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| 00:39 | meeting | * KaiXo-es has joined |
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| 01:03 | kaametza | ping bernie |
| 01:03 | good night to everybody | |
| 01:03 | cjl | evening |
| 01:04 | brb | |
| 01:04 | anita <anita!~anita190.232.91.164> has joined #sugar-meeting |
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| 01:09 | kaametza | [in 21 minutes initiates the hour of the planet] |
| 01:10 | ping alsroot | |
| 01:11 | cjl | with alsroot back in Russia, I do not know if he is awake now. |
| 01:11 | quidam | I'm sort of awake... |
| 01:11 | kaametza | you are right! |
| 01:11 | neyder | sorry, but does the meeting will go on? |
| 01:12 | kaametza | he must be resting now |
| 01:12 | meeting | <KaiXo-es> well Already it is time to to begin |
| 01:12 | cjl | Who will chair the meeting? |
| 01:12 | icarito | he's been working hard preparing a Sugar Network release hopefully he's resting |
| 01:12 | neyder | you cjl |
| 01:12 | kaametza | Good Night Neyder, David |
| 01:13 | meeting | <KaiXo-es> kaametza, good nights |
| 01:13 | neyder | good night! everybody |
| 01:13 | kaametza | we are waiting for Bernie |
| 01:13 | neyder | ok :) |
| 01:13 | cjl | hmm, I guess I could, but I would prefer bernie be present and ideally lead the discussion. |
| 01:13 | neyder | i was asking about the "hour of the planet" |
| 01:14 | kaametza | we can talk while we wait |
| 01:15 | neyder | but if berni will chair this meeting, so we must wait |
| 01:15 | meeting | <KaiXo-es> A bit but to be able to begin |
| 01:15 | walterbender | hi neyder |
| 01:16 | neyder | thinks that the hour of the planet is more symbolic in cabon-powered countries, peru and specially puno is hidric powered |
| 01:16 | hi walterbender ! | |
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| 01:16 | cjl | neyder I believe one of the issues is the disposition of bernie's donation, and he should be the one to speak of his intentions. |
| 01:16 | neyder | true! |
| 01:17 | alfredo <alfredo!baa211f5gateway/web/freenode/ip.186.162.17.245> has joined #sugar-meeting |
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| 01:17 | meeting | <cjl-es> hello alfredo |
| 01:17 | alfredo | Hello Chris |
| 01:17 | meeting | <KaiXo-es> alfredo, hello |
| 01:18 | alfredo | Hello friends! |
| 01:18 | meeting | <KaiXo-es> alfredo, well waiting for *Benie |
| 01:19 | alfredo | ok |
| 01:19 | meeting | <cjl-es> If you is speaking in Spanish, please join to channel #sugar-meeting-es so that we can take advantage of the translations by the robot of the meeting. /*join #sugar-meeting-es |
| 01:20 | cjl | err, /join #sugar-meeting-es |
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| 01:21 | kiko__ | hello, sorry late |
| 01:21 | cjl | hello kiko__ we are waiting for bernie |
| 01:21 | kiko__ | ok! hi |
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| 01:22 | kaametza | kiko! I loved the first parragraph of the ONE LIBRARY PER CHILD application |
| 01:22 | kiko__ | : ) |
| 01:22 | kaametza | :o) |
| 01:23 | cjl, lets begin if you may.. | |
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| 01:25 | cjl | okay, let me see if I remember th emeeting commands for the robot |
| 01:25 | bernie | appears |
| 01:25 | sorry, i'm late | |
| 01:25 | neyder | lol |
| 01:25 | kiko__ | : ) |
| 01:26 | cjl | bernie can you chair the meeting and start the meeting bot? |
| 01:26 | quidam | just in time! |
| 01:26 | alfredo | : ) |
| 01:26 | meeting | <KaiXo-es> I arrive like *caido the sky |
| 01:26 | kaametza | full house tonite ;o) |
| 01:26 | walterbender | ciao Bernardo |
| 01:27 | kaametza | [3 minutes left] |
| 01:27 | bernie | i'm reading the backlog |
| 01:28 | meeting | <KaiXo-es> bernie, *cuales are the matters to be discussed. |
| 01:29 | neyder | anita, ping |
| 01:29 | meeting | <kaametza-es> [It remains 1 minute for the hour of the planet] |
| 01:30 | bernie | so, i'd like to figure out what exactly went wrong between lima and peru and whether we can do something to resume productive collaboration between the groups |
| 01:30 | cjl | s/peru/puno/ |
| 01:30 | bernie | cjl: oh yes, sorry. i meant puno of course. |
| 01:31 | cjl | bernie do you want to log this with meeting-bot? |
| 01:31 | bernie | cjl: yes, nobody did startmeeting yet? |
| 01:31 | cjl | no |
| 01:31 | meeting | <KaiXo-es> *nop |
| 01:31 | bernie | cjl: would you like to chair? |
| 01:31 | cjl | no, please do so |
| 01:31 | kaametza | shall we have this meeting in spanish? |
| 01:32 | in consideration to David | |
| 01:32 | bernie | cjl: ok, i'll try |
| 01:32 | #startmeeting | |
| 01:32 | meeting | Meeting started Sun Apr 1 01:32:07 2012 UTC. The chair is bernie. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
| 01:32 | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #endmeeting | |
| 01:32 | cjl | Spanish in #sugar-meeting-es is good |
| 01:32 | walterbender | does #sugar-meeting-es still work? |
| 01:32 | bernie | kaametza: fine, i can read spanish quite well, but i'm not very good at writing |
| 01:32 | meeting | <cjl-es> *wawalter *yes |
| 01:32 | bernie | walterbender: looks like it does, but the translation is terrible |
| 01:33 | neyder | ok, lets go to #sugar-meeting-es |
| 01:33 | kaametza | bernie, we all learning all the time |
| 01:33 | meeting | <kaametza-es> Good nights for all |
| 01:33 | <icarito-es> hello All | |
| 01:33 | <cjl-es> hello | |
| 01:33 | bernie | so, who would like to speak first? |
| 01:34 | meeting | <KaiXo-es> First serious see *cuales are fear it to treat |
| 01:34 | bernie | ok |
| 01:35 | meeting | <neyder-es> +1 |
| 01:35 | bernie | #topic discussion of the budget |
| 01:36 | cjl | income first, then expenses? |
| 01:36 | icarito | translate is not working right |
| 01:36 | meeting | <kaametza-es> *asi Is *Neyder |
| 01:36 | bernie | #link https://docs.google.com/a/goog[…]OENyb3FWVkE#gid=4 |
| 01:37 | meeting | <kaametza-es> *Hexoquinasa Arises like an answer to the latent need of the Peruvian government of potential the use of the *XO distributed in terrain |
| 01:37 | bernie | has everyone already reviewed this document? |
| 01:37 | meeting | <neyder-es> bernie, if |
| 01:39 | walterbender | there are many groups that are trying to answer the same question in different regions |
| 01:39 | meeting | <neyder-es> Although it was shared with us, do not work in the (in reality almost at all). |
| 01:39 | bernie | Looks like about $2000 out of $2211 were allocated to reimburse travels to Bogotá. what is the connection between this location and Hexoquinasa? |
| 01:39 | meeting | <KaiXo-es> The serious question *cual is the aim of the project *HEXOQUINASA |
| 01:40 | <neyder-es> KaiXo, first we are with the budget | |
| 01:40 | <kaametza-es> The aim is to improve the use of the *XO articulating to attain this aim the resources of the state | |
| 01:40 | <kaametza-es> [They turned off the lights?] | |
| 01:40 | kiko__ | (i had not seen this yet... ) |
| 01:41 | bernie | kiko__: what, the budget? |
| 01:41 | meeting | <KaiXo-es> I keep the question of bernie |
| 01:42 | <kaametza-es> We can not be still in the culture of the shortage, there are resources, has confirmed it to us the Ministry | |
| 01:42 | <kaametza-es> We do not have to litigate by money | |
| 01:42 | kiko__ | (not that 100k + budget ... reading for the first time) |
| 01:42 | meeting | <kaametza-es> "no es digno del guerrero" *diria the *Aymara |
| 01:43 | kiko__ | (but i was also not so focused or copied, sorry...) |
| 01:43 | meeting | <KaiXo-es> Then of it has to to pay the previous shortage, think that *HEXOQUINASA *nacio *despues of the *SUGARCAMP LIMA 2011 |
| 01:44 | bernie | kiko__: which one? i've seen a spreadsheet with a budget for escuelab puno a couple of months ago (i don't have a link handy, anyone?) |
| 01:44 | icarito | kiko__, we are speaking in #sugar-meeting-es |
| 01:44 | kiko__ | ok , moving to sugra-meeting-es |
| 01:44 | bernie | icarito: what you say in #sugar-meeting gets relayed to #sugar-meeting-es and vice-versa |
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| 01:45 | meeting | <KaiXo-es> The question has not been answered |
| 01:46 | bernie | icarito, kaametza: since your names are on those trips to Bogotá, could you please explain what is the connection between them and the project in Puno and Hexoquinasa? |
| 01:47 | meeting | * kiko__-es has joined |
| 01:47 | cjl | bernie look in #sugar-meeting-es as well, not all strings are being shared |
| 01:47 | bernie | cjl: yes, i noticed |
| 01:48 | cjl: this doesn't help good communication, i'd rather have you do all the talking in spanish :-( | |
| 01:48 | meeting | <kaametza-es> *Bernie Already answer the question |
| 01:48 | icarito | bernie, we saw an opportunity in Peru and devised a plan when we were in Bogota |
| 01:49 | the plan's execution required our presence in Peru and access to a car. | |
| 01:49 | so we drove down here | |
| 01:49 | bernie | icarito: ah so the trips were from bogota to lima? but don't you live in lima now? |
| 01:49 | icarito | held the first meeting in Lima to plan Sugar Camp Lima |
| 01:49 | meeting | <KaiXo-es> But this trip form part of his project "MALLA" and no of *hexoquinasa |
| 01:49 | bernie | kaixo: what's Malla? |
| 01:49 | meeting | <icarito-es> I'm sorry that I went me to write in groins is that I do not see the messages of bernie |
| 01:50 | <bernie-es> icarito: if *parese that the robot of *traducione does not walk, go to test to write only in *espanol | |
| 01:50 | <bernie-es> Say me does not comprise | |
| 01:50 | <KaiXo-es> A project that Laura and Sebastian realised in *Puno, in which us *visiaron | |
| 01:50 | <icarito-es> #link http://somosazucar.org/2010/05[…]n-proyecto-malla/ | |
| 01:50 | <kaametza-es> Mesh is the main project of the team Somosazucar.org and has like aim connect to the users of *sugar in network. | |
| 01:51 | <KaiXo-es> This is a different project of *HEXOQUINASA | |
| 01:51 | bernie | everyone agrees that the donation should be used also for the project Malla? |
| 01:52 | meeting | <neyder-es> No |
| 01:52 | <KaiXo-es> No | |
| 01:52 | <kaametza-es> David, *Hexoquinasa and *Sugar *Network were created to give support to the Project Mesh | |
| 01:52 | <kaametza-es> We initiate our trip in 2009 | |
| 01:53 | <KaiXo-es> That is a work of you and with a budget that *ustes used | |
| 01:53 | <kaametza-es> We go through *Arequipa and remain us in *Puno | |
| 01:53 | <kiko__-es> *hmmmmmm,, no... In mesh? 2009? | |
| 01:53 | <KaiXo-es> But this no this inside the project *HEXOQUINASA | |
| 01:53 | <neyder-es> kaametza, *osea in reality all work without knowing it for MESH | |
| 01:53 | <kaametza-es> Clear | |
| 01:53 | <kiko__-es> ? | |
| 01:54 | bernie | I had never heard of project Malla before, therefore i'm pretty sure it's not what I was directing my donation to. |
| 01:54 | meeting | <KaiXo-es> ????? |
| 01:54 | <kaametza-es> Mesh this above all we | |
| 01:54 | <kiko__-es> ? | |
| 01:55 | <neyder-es> Have it said before, already of where you are lead them of ALL the projects | |
| 01:55 | <icarito-es> During years have tried to have an impact *sistémico on the deployment | |
| 01:55 | <kaametza-es> You bought me a *torta to the exit | |
| 01:55 | <quidam-es> kaametza: when it was this? | |
| 01:55 | <icarito-es> Mesh is a design of articulation of a network of support | |
| 01:55 | <kaametza-es> They were glory, *giovanna, rose.. | |
| 01:56 | <KaiXo-es> But this does not have at all that see with the *donacion that bernie realised for the project *HEXOQUINASA in *Puno | |
| 01:56 | <kaametza-es> quidam 4 June 2009 | |
| 01:56 | <neyder-es> In 2012 | |
| 01:56 | <cjl-es> http://pe.sugarlabs.org/wiki/i[…]la&action=history | |
| 01:56 | <icarito-es> KaiXo, you refer you to http://pe.sugarlabs.org/go/pro[…]iloto_hexoquinasa ? | |
| 01:56 | <kaametza-es> David understand | |
| 01:56 | <kaametza-es> We can *desautoriarlo if necessary | |
| 01:56 | <kaametza-es> No *habria problem | |
| 01:57 | <neyder-es> We are not asking this | |
| 01:57 | <neyder-es> In *realida *dno are asking at all | |
| 01:57 | <kaametza-es> It understands that I support the need of sustainability that face the *Escuelabs | |
| 01:57 | <kiko__-es> ? | |
| 01:58 | <bernie-es> That it is *Ancon? | |
| 01:58 | <KaiXo-es> You do not mix the things, *Escuelab *Puno this being sustained by David, *Neyder, Ruben , *Eleazar *Pacho | |
| 01:58 | <kaametza-es> icarito and I | |
| 01:59 | bernie | kaixo: could you please send us a link to the budget you wrote about 3 months ago for Escuelab Puno? |
| 01:59 | meeting | <kaametza-es> *aqui Have *hosteado the *sugar *camps that have given with *Aleksey, Juan Camilo and Alfredo in the advance of the project *Hexoquinasa |
| 01:59 | <KaiXo-es> *okey | |
| 02:00 | <neyder-es> It is of very bad taste and lack of respect to our community, use the idea of *escuelab to mention that it is any private place | |
| 02:00 | <KaiXo-es> This *prepuesto is what work in a first moment https://docs.google.com/spread[…]zhpncu5rn3c#gid=0 | |
| 02:00 | <kaametza-es> *Neyder, is not of bad taste that the goods are common | |
| 02:00 | walterbender | sugarlabs funded the travel for aleksey (and ruben) |
| 02:00 | meeting | <kaametza-es> You same *querian rent a house for *escuelab *puno |
| 02:01 | <neyder-es> And we did it, we do not ask that they rent us for us the venue in which now we are, | |
| 02:01 | <kaametza-es> That it is what need? | |
| 02:02 | <neyder-es> It was very annoying | |
| 02:02 | <KaiXo-es> We define the things, the *donacion that *recibio of bernie this paying costs of past things that no *estan in the *proyecgto *hexoquinasa | |
| 02:03 | <KaiXo-es> That is the problem and think that all are seeing it | |
| 02:03 | <neyder-es> But now we do not ask neither a cent thus, and help us a lot that *aleksey paid this month for hire | |
| 02:03 | <icarito-es> *Hexoquinasa Did not begin after *Sugar *Camp | |
| 02:03 | <icarito-es> *Sugar *Camp Was done to initiate the development of *Hexoquinasa | |
| 02:03 | <kaametza-es> Have *cientos of "papelitos" of expenses that have invested of our pocket | |
| 02:04 | <icarito-es> Which is a success | |
| 02:04 | <kaametza-es> Since we were to *Puno for example | |
| 02:04 | bernie | walterbender: sugar labs paid the ticket from Paraguay to Lima, I paid aleksey's flight from Lima to Puno, then I was told that someone else had to pay his hotel in Puno and his flight back to Lima. |
| 02:04 | meeting | <kaametza-es> Demand them if necessary |
| 02:05 | <icarito-es> neyder "Inventores, artistas, educadores y ciudadanos | |
| 02:05 | <icarito-es> We will gather us with the purpose to make between all an up to date image" | |
| 02:05 | <neyder-es> We are not speaking of *escuelab *puno, are speaking of *hexoquinasa | |
| 02:06 | <KaiXo-es> bernie, the money that *donaste was for the payments of passages *bogota file of the project MESH | |
| 02:06 | walterbender | bernie: sl had offered to pay for alsroot's expenses. not sure why this didn't happen |
| 02:07 | meeting | <KaiXo-es> Then the one who *aprobo the assume these expenses of passages |
| 02:08 | <quidam-es> That date are these passages? | |
| 02:08 | <neyder-es> As this clearly mentioned in pe.sugarlabs.org: "SomosAZUCAR es un equipo de Investigaci | |
| 02:08 | <bernie-es> KaiXo: no, my *donacion was *intesa by *Puno and *Hexoquinasa | |
| 02:08 | cjl | walterbender: I do not believe that the trip to Puno was planned at the time of the original Sugar labs request for travel funding. |
| 02:08 | meeting | <KaiXo-es> Well then no *deberia of *cuibrir this expenses |
| 02:08 | alfredo | Kametsa says: <kaametza> Nos enamoramos al instante y me dsafió a ayudarlo a hacer de ésto una "empresa" sostenible |
| 02:08 | meeting | <bernie-es> KaiXo: it was *allocated* by *Puno and *Hexoquinasa |
| 02:09 | alfredo | People, this is important. Dont forget both channels |
| 02:09 | meeting | <icarito-es> bernie, and it is being invested in *Hexoquinasa |
| 02:09 | <KaiXo-es> bernie, that do they already decided it | |
| 02:09 | <KaiXo-es> bernie, like time that is the problem | |
| 02:09 | <kaametza-es> All the capital that goes in is *reinvertido in *Hexoquinasa | |
| 02:09 | <quidam-es> kaametza: that date are these expenses? | |
| 02:09 | <bernie-es> icarito: but $2000 from $2100 they were *esborsadas by this *projecto Mesh, truth? | |
| 02:10 | <kaametza-es> *Bernie: No, they were *reembolsados inside the *Proeycto *Hexoquinasa | |
| 02:10 | <kaametza-es> See budget | |
| 02:10 | <icarito-es> #link https://docs.google.com/a/somo[…]oenyb3fwvke#gid=2 | |
| 02:11 | <icarito-es> Here it is documented all what think that we go to need | |
| 02:11 | <icarito-es> Some things have needed them already | |
| 02:11 | <kaametza-es> And it goes discounting in the budgetary games what goes executing | |
| 02:11 | <quidam-es> But those $100*k of where go out? | |
| 02:12 | <icarito-es> quidam, we move us to Lima around the middle of August 2011 | |
| 02:12 | <icarito-es> quidam maybe this link is more notable | |
| 02:12 | <icarito-es> http://pe.sugarlabs.org/go/pro[…]iloto_hexoquinasa | |
| 02:12 | <kaametza-es> David, the concept does not matter in reality | |
| 02:13 | <kaametza-es> Can happen you a bill by *honorarios if necessary | |
| 02:13 | <quidam-es> I have *leido the distinct leaves of calculate, but no me whole very well | |
| 02:13 | <icarito-es> quidam, the key think that is the title: "Proyecto Piloto" *Hexoquinasa | |
| 02:13 | <kaametza-es> *Escuelab *Puno Has his budget and Somosazucar.org has his budget | |
| 02:13 | <icarito-es> The idea is to deploy in terrain the image *Hexoquinasa | |
| 02:14 | <icarito-es> And obtain metric of use | |
| 02:14 | <quidam-es> We go to centre us in clearing the subject of budgets | |
| 02:14 | <KaiXo-es> That is not the point now but to see the subject of the *donacion | |
| 02:14 | <quidam-es> To simplify, the bottom of money that there is are some 2000 of bernie and some 2000 of *google? | |
| 02:14 | <quidam-es> It is correct? | |
| 02:14 | <bernie-es> kaametza, KaiXo: that step with the *municipalidad of *Puno? | |
| 02:15 | <bernie-es> quidam: no, $2500 + $2500 | |
| 02:15 | <quidam-es> *ok | |
| 02:15 | <quidam-es> But the 100.000 are a budget, is not that this money exist, no? | |
| 02:15 | <kaametza-es> 2211 for exact | |
| 02:16 | <bernie-es> quidam: but a *fondacion in USES volume 5% by *trasferir the money in *Peru, and the bankings took a bit but | |
| 02:16 | <kaametza-es> quidam: the *pesupuestos exist to measure that go executing | |
| 02:16 | <KaiXo-es> bernie, we *aqui in *puno are managing the agreement for his *aprobacion, have a *reunion with the councillors the *dia Monday to the 9 *am | |
| 02:16 | <quidam-es> kaametza: there is 100.000 $ in an account in some part? | |
| 02:17 | <quidam-es> *ok | |
| 02:17 | <quidam-es> Then we go to forget, to effects of this *reunion, this leaf of calculate | |
| 02:17 | <quidam-es> And centre us in the >5000 $ existent | |
| 02:17 | <kiko__-es> (I repeat that it is the first time that see it, when did THIS leaf?) | |
| 02:17 | <quidam-es> And in that they have spent , that understand that it is the *raiz of the *discusion | |
| 02:17 | <KaiXo-es> bernie, quidam, if but as they see I use in paying things that no *estan inside the project *hexoquinasa | |
| 02:18 | <bernie-es> KaiXo: the *proximo Monday? (Abril 2?) | |
| 02:18 | <quidam-es> KaiXo: little by little | |
| 02:18 | <KaiXo-es> If correct | |
| 02:18 | <neyder-es> No to personal accounts | |
| 02:18 | <kiko__-es> It is not some *kaameza | |
| 02:19 | <icarito-es> neyder, with the one who agreed this? | |
| 02:19 | * Koke-es has joined | |
| 02:19 | <kiko__-es> I said you quidam *ue *podia be by less than 5000 | |
| 02:19 | <kaametza-es> *Bernie Was to the so much | |
| 02:19 | <kiko__-es> I said you *kaameza that *podia be by any mount | |
| 02:19 | <kiko__-es> But that no *ibamos to open an account by 5000, but cheques to name of the one who appeared in the agreement | |
| 02:19 | <Koke-es> Good nights excuse the *tardanza | |
| 02:19 | <neyder-es> kaametza, your did not want to give a cent to escuelab.org from the *sugarcamp file! | |
| 02:20 | <icarito-es> hello *koke | |
| 02:20 | <KaiXo-es> But the problem in that things used the *donacion that arrive | |
| 02:20 | <quidam-es> well, we go I go through step | |
| 02:20 | <kaametza-es> It is not a problem David, is a right | |
| 02:21 | <quidam-es> This bottom of something less than 5000 use partially, and part even exists, is *asi? | |
| 02:21 | <kaametza-es> We carry 5 months working complete time in *Hexoquinasa | |
| 02:21 | <KaiXo-es> Only in you (Sebastian and Laura) do not ask this money but this was what bother us, that all decide it arbitrarily | |
| 02:21 | <KaiXo-es> In spite of the indications of bernie | |
| 02:21 | <KaiXo-es> Only | |
| 02:21 | <kaametza-es> Your have another work in which you receive income (*Aleksey, Sebastian and I no) | |
| 02:21 | <kiko__-es> ? | |
| 02:21 | <kaametza-es> I have asked them from 6 January that say us what need | |
| 02:21 | <bernie-es> kaametza: but it seems that the expenses that see are for the trips of before the donation. *qual Were the exact dates? | |
| 02:22 | <KaiXo-es> Claro *nosotris work in *Puno and sustain *ESCUELAB *PUNO, to be able to receive and manage the projects | |
| 02:22 | <neyder-es> Like *hexoquinasa | |
| 02:22 | <kaametza-es> I have reserved the money of Google expecting the answer of David | |
| 02:22 | <kaametza-es> I seat that they do not read my emails | |
| 02:22 | <icarito-es> Koke, lamentably the *log of the *discusion in Spanish is not carrying in meeting.sugarlabs.org - finish you to send the register | |
| 02:23 | <icarito-es> Koke, by email | |
| 02:23 | <kaametza-es> In other words we have costs! The same that all the world | |
| 02:23 | <Koke-es> thank you | |
| 02:23 | <kaametza-es> We have devoted us to take out this project forward | |
| 02:23 | <kiko__-es> kaametza, like this all | |
| 02:23 | <kaametza-es> Koke :or) | |
| 02:23 | <KaiXo-es> That dates travelled | |
| 02:23 | <bernie-es> kaametza: you already *esplico' this in an email? | |
| 02:24 | <icarito-es> bernie, we came around the middle of August and almost 6 months *despues won the *visa and returned some days to Bogota | |
| 02:24 | <icarito-es> * In February | |
| 02:24 | <kaametza-es> I have asked them to all help to document in the *wiki, write in the Blog, etc | |
| 02:25 | <neyder-es> his repayments are by the trips of August! | |
| 02:25 | <KaiXo-es> We are not speaking of this now | |
| 02:25 | <kaametza-es> But maybe no *estan devoting sufficient time to the project | |
| 02:25 | <quidam-es> kaametza: we do not go in in this, the subject of the *reunion right now is income and expenses | |
| 02:25 | <kaametza-es> I want to speak of this now | |
| 02:26 | <kaametza-es> *Bernie Propose to speak of results | |
| 02:26 | <quidam-es> kaametza: it seems me well, but when it close this subject | |
| 02:26 | <KaiXo-es> Clear the previous first entry and expenses? | |
| 02:26 | <kaametza-es> thank you quidam | |
| 02:26 | <quidam-es> They are independent things | |
| 02:26 | <neyder-es> *brb, need to breathe | |
| 02:26 | walterbender | wonder why neyder's messages don't appear in this channel |
| 02:26 | meeting | <kaametza-es> We clear, the one who did charge of the budget of *Sugar *Camp Lima 2011? |
| 02:27 | <icarito-es> http://openetherpad.org/ep/pad[…]/sugarcamp/latest It is the documentation of the first *reunion sustained in *sept 2011 on *sugar *camp file | |
| 02:27 | <bernie-es> icarito, kaametza: I understand It, but I do not think that his trips to Colombia have to be covered by the donation for the Peru. I propose that we delete these entrances of the expenses. | |
| 02:27 | <bernie-es> *oops, for *Puno | |
| 02:27 | <quidam-es> We can list that expenses there has been in total, imputed to the donations? | |
| 02:28 | cjl | It is very confusing that documents are scattered on openetherpad and google docs when there is a perfectly good wiki available |
| 02:28 | meeting | <KaiXo-es> kaametza, those are his expenses, do not mix the things |
| 02:29 | <kaametza-es> Already they were deleted David | |
| 02:29 | <bernie-es> icarito, kaametza: and also because the trips *sucediaron before *Sugar *Camp Lima and before my donation. | |
| 02:30 | <bernie-es> I expect that my *espnol is quite comprehensible... | |
| 02:30 | <kaametza-es> They are repayments *Bernie | |
| 02:30 | <kaametza-es> From the 2009 | |
| 02:31 | <KaiXo-es> And therefore they are *SOMOAZUCAR | |
| 02:31 | <KaiXo-es> I say *SOMOSAZUCAR | |
| 02:31 | neyder | why are my messages not translated? |
| 02:31 | meeting | <quidam-es> kaametza: it criticises it *aqui is not (or no of the all) so that it uses the money, if no that no this deciding of form publishes *cual is his use |
| 02:32 | cjl | neyder I do not know, everyone is watching bot hchannels |
| 02:32 | meeting | <icarito-es> bernie, your intention was *donar for projects related of the community *Sugar, or for a region of *perú? |
| 02:32 | <kiko__-es> : / | |
| 02:32 | <icarito-es> bernie, if the intention was to help to *Sugar *Labs Peru, exists a board | |
| 02:32 | <KaiXo-es> kaametza, in this bernie was very clear | |
| 02:33 | <icarito-es> That is in capacity to decide publicly | |
| 02:33 | <quidam-es> kaametza: I think that this is unfair to bernie, is the one who receives the *donacion the one who holds responsible to do a good use | |
| 02:33 | <icarito-es> quidam, fault that between the second half of the money - presumably will have of KaiXo and neyder some plan or budget to execute it | |
| 02:34 | <icarito-es> quidam, however here it is demanding when it is not working and this is a problem | |
| 02:34 | <icarito-es> And in this ask him clarity to bernie | |
| 02:34 | <quidam-es> icarito: the first is to create a board of expenses, that decide the use of the bottoms between varied and of form publishes | |
| 02:34 | <bernie-es> icarito: My understanding was that *Sugar *Labs Peru was working with *Escuelab Lima and *Escuelab *Puno by the conversion of *Sugar in *Quechua and *Aymara. This is what want to *donar. | |
| 02:34 | <icarito-es> We can postpone our repayments but there is not another proposal to use these bottoms | |
| 02:35 | <quidam-es> icarito: I understand this complaint, but are separate things, the efficiency of the project can argue afterwards | |
| 02:35 | <kiko__-es> ? | |
| 02:35 | <icarito-es> bernie, the relation with *escuelab is similar to the *relacion of *sugarlabs with *sfc | |
| 02:35 | <icarito-es> *escuelab Is a *sponsor | |
| 02:35 | <KaiXo-es> That????????? | |
| 02:35 | <kiko__-es> ? | |
| 02:35 | <bernie-es> icarito: you understand *Escuelab Lima? | |
| 02:35 | <icarito-es> kiko__, KaiXo , if it calls *sponsor fiscal, *uds offer his *personería *juridica | |
| 02:36 | <bernie-es> kiko__: you can comment please? | |
| 02:36 | <KaiXo-es> kiko__, it defines please, the open spaces that *estan creating from *ESCUELAB LIMA | |
| 02:36 | walterbender | it would be nice to see a diagram explaining all the various organizations in Peru... from the outside, it is very confusing :P |
| 02:37 | meeting | <kiko__-es> To see,, TIE offered like "institucion perceptora" if it is that there was an agreement with a plan with the money. The model of *cointrato commanded it in January and never arrive the full agreement... *alli TIES lost the thread of the *donacion |
| 02:37 | <KaiXo-es> walterbender, it is very simple the money *donado by bernie that in a principle was for project *hexoquinasa in *puno, this being used to pay the accounts | |
| 02:38 | <bernie-es> kiko__, KaiXo, neyder, icarito, kaametza: All agree in deciding that *Escuelab Lima (*aka TIES) administer the budget? | |
| 02:38 | <icarito-es> kiko__, we are speaking of the concept of "proyecto incubado" | |
| 02:38 | <KaiXo-es> Of agreement | |
| 02:38 | <kaametza-es> I do not agree | |
| 02:38 | walterbender | kaixo, I was asking a more general question... not one specific to this budget |
| 02:38 | meeting | <neyder-es> bernie, if! |
| 02:38 | <icarito-es> bernie, -1 | |
| 02:38 | <KaiXo-es> *ademas That generates *presedente of the donations *entrantes in future | |
| 02:39 | <kaametza-es> It is not appropriate to interfere in this way | |
| 02:39 | neyder | walterbender, will be more easy if we stop to talk about *Azucar, and all in Peru feels represented by SugarLabs Peru |
| 02:40 | meeting | <icarito-es> neyder, we agree and in fact like this it has documented |
| 02:40 | <quidam-es> kaametza: the one who this right now to the charge of the finances? | |
| 02:40 | <icarito-es> *somosazucar Is a team of *sugar *labs | |
| 02:40 | <bernie-es> icarito: To save the administrative tax of 5% of TIES? | |
| 02:40 | <kaametza-es> quidam I am to charge | |
| 02:40 | <neyder-es> icarito, pe.sugarlabs.org this full of **azucar | |
| 02:40 | <quidam-es> kaametza: there is not a commission, does not participate anybody but in the decisions? | |
| 02:40 | <icarito-es> neyder, it is a *wiki, can contribute to him from time to time | |
| 02:41 | <neyder-es> But it is his wish of you as they show it in ALL the documents, do not go to happen me the life correcting something that do not wish to correct | |
| 02:41 | <KaiXo-es> bernie, then it defines this your by that your are the one who does the *donacion in this moment | |
| 02:42 | <quidam-es> kaametza: that is to say that a general assembly *decidio assign the expenses of these trips? | |
| 02:42 | cjl | Where are teh minutes or noted of the meeting that approved the expenses? |
| 02:42 | meeting | <bernie-es> kaametza: Who are the members of this board, and how choose ? |
| 02:42 | <icarito-es> bernie, http://pe.sugarlabs.org/go/malla | |
| 02:43 | <icarito-es> It is composed of the people that offered in the *asamble to of December, that fulfilled with the agreed requirements | |
| 02:43 | <quidam-es> icarito: the control of the bottoms *donados by bernie was assigned to the board of a project that the did not know until today? | |
| 02:43 | <kaametza-es> This has been agreed directly with Jorge *Villacorta | |
| 02:44 | <icarito-es> quidam, in reality bernie it left it to our criterion and we have seen to well share this responsibility with this board | |
| 02:44 | cjl | Where are the minutes or notes of the meeting that approved the expenses? |
| 02:44 | meeting | <kaametza-es> *Bernie There are 6 members at present: Sebastian, Laura, Koke, Alfredo, Juan Camilo and *Yannick *Warnier |
| 02:44 | cjl | I do not see any notice on http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/somosazucar/ |
| 02:45 | meeting | <bernie-es> kaametza: ah, if... It is 7%, I remember me |
| 02:45 | <kiko__-es> It TIES it has offered to receive and administer bottoms for *somosazucar with a percentage between 7% and 5%. But this time has received to us the money by this *via | |
| 02:45 | <KaiXo-es> *aqui Have to one of the members of this board to alfredo | |
| 02:45 | <icarito-es> cjl, we have not documented officially but we have appointed to Juan Camilo like Executive Director with power to approve budgets | |
| 02:45 | <KaiXo-es> alfredo, when they decided to approve these expenses | |
| 02:46 | <icarito-es> #link http://pe.sugarlabs.org/go/recursos_financieros | |
| 02:46 | <kiko__-es> This I neither the wise,, *juan *camilo can approve alone budgets? | |
| 02:46 | <KaiXo-es> Koke, your *tambien participated of this *reunion to approve these expenses | |
| 02:47 | <icarito-es> KaiXo, there was not such *reunion, as I said, Juan Camilo was appointed Executive Director | |
| 02:47 | <kiko__-es> No kaametza, every time that you ask me institutional help we are *dispouestos | |
| 02:47 | <KaiXo-es> Koke, alfredo ???????? | |
| 02:47 | <kaametza-es> Therefore we have assigned him this faculty | |
| 02:47 | <quidam-es> *ok, think that have to correct his *organizacion and his transparency, do not see at all bad in assigning bottoms for an expense done by one same, but to do it has to have consensus and advertising | |
| 02:47 | <kaametza-es> We trust fully in his criterion | |
| 02:47 | <neyder-es> It is a board, but only decides a person, *alucinante! | |
| 02:47 | <cjl-es> "Una vez aprobadas formalmente las partidas presupuestarias y se ha fijado el rango de fechas esperado para los reembolsos, el solicitante puede proceder a ejecutar las actividades," | |
| 02:48 | <kiko__-es> This is not some kaametza <*kaametza> Juan Camilo has funded the greater part of our activities so much the ones of *Escuelab like the ones of *Sugar *Labs Peru | |
| 02:48 | <alfredo-es> I neither wise of the expenses that *habian been carried until the moment | |
| 02:48 | <KaiXo-es> *aqui See his transparency | |
| 02:48 | <kaametza-es> Juan Camilo decides as long as have my seen well preliminary, based in the availability of the flow of Box | |
| 02:49 | <KaiXo-es> kaametza, Juan Camilo depends on you for any *decision | |
| 02:49 | <alfredo-es> Up to now my contributions have treated always to keep to the margin of any monetary subject | |
| 02:49 | <icarito-es> Like team of *Sugar *Labs, cost us by http://pe.sugarlabs.org/go/principios and therefore we are *aqui conversing on the budget of our projects | |
| 02:49 | <quidam-es> I *elegiria the organisational structure but high (*sugarlabs *peru?) And *crearia a board *alli, that do not do at all without *minutas, and that no of powers to *ningun individual | |
| 02:49 | <quidam-es> Of this form will be able to collaborate | |
| 02:49 | neyder | yup! i got the mail fron bernie about sharing the donation: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/909584/ |
| 02:49 | meeting | <bernie-es> alfredo: what think of the idea to leave *Escuelab management of the bottoms? |
| 02:50 | <kaametza-es> No with *escuelab | |
| 02:50 | <neyder-es> But up to now it ties it does not participate? | |
| 02:50 | <icarito-es> neyder, it has not been necessary, neither there is an agreement of *exclusividad | |
| 02:50 | <alfredo-es> And they know that? This is not the first time that see to a community with difficulties to go on down these questions | |
| 02:50 | <KaiXo-es> It TIES/ *ESCUELAB are the same, can manage of one to to the another | |
| 02:50 | <alfredo-es> Sink to the bottom | |
| 02:51 | <quidam-es> *cual Is the organisational group that *engloba to all the participants? | |
| 02:51 | <bernie-es> neyder: I Suppose that my sentence was the Apple of the Discord :-( | |
| 02:51 | <KaiXo-es> This type of actions are those that bother, and was the *razon that we withdraw us | |
| 02:51 | <kiko__-es> *Escuelab Can not receive donations, TIES if, and TIES Wants to collaborate with all this | |
| 02:51 | neyder | bernie, it was not you, it's a matter of people and their personalities |
| 02:51 | meeting | <icarito-es> quidam, there is not such - neither neyder neither KaiXo are members of *sugar *labs global, requirement to be member of *Sugar *Labs Peru |
| 02:51 | <kiko__-es> *Escuelab In Lima | |
| 02:51 | <kiko__-es> I say | |
| 02:52 | <KaiXo-es> bernie, we do not look for the money, will assume it of our pockets | |
| 02:52 | <quidam-es> icarito: well, but this can fix | |
| 02:52 | <icarito-es> quidam, it would be good! | |
| 02:52 | <kaametza-es> Anybody to at least asked like downloading the *release! | |
| 02:52 | <quidam-es> *deberian All you to participate, from his local groups, *escuelabs, etc, in a structure *comun | |
| 02:53 | <kiko__-es> (The one who are *quidam?) | |
| 02:53 | <kiko__-es> (*sorry) | |
| 02:53 | <neyder-es> kiko__, it is *ruben of *trisquel! | |
| 02:53 | <quidam-es> kiko__: *ruben, the one of *trisquel | |
| 02:53 | <kiko__-es> *ok! | |
| 02:53 | <quidam-es> The lawyer of the devil, prefer that they anger with me, that am far :) | |
| 02:53 | <alfredo-es> It wanted to know if the parts suit in that the way to treat us has to to return to the initial point | |
| 02:53 | <KaiXo-es> *jajajaajajajja | |
| 02:53 | <neyder-es> *lol | |
| 02:53 | <kiko__-es> *jjjjjjjjjjjjjj | |
| 02:53 | <bernie-es> KaiXo: have a list of the already sustained expenses?> | |
| 02:53 | <icarito-es> quidam, until the formal foundation of *Sugar *Labs Peru on 21 December 2011, no *habia *organizacion open *disnpoible for such thing | |
| 02:54 | <quidam-es> I think that *sugarlabs *peru is the correct place to centralise the *gestion | |
| 02:54 | <kaametza-es> We can not be litigating by budget when it goes out in the news that in the regions remained 4.185 millions of the 2011 of suns of the mining grantings | |
| 02:54 | <kiko__-es> +1kaametza. | |
| 02:54 | <kiko__-es> This is true! | |
| 02:55 | <KaiXo-es> bernie, we have spent what to *escuelab *consierne, since the team of *traduccion in *puno *perdio his *lider, but try to keep the contacts to finish the translations | |
| 02:55 | walterbender | yes... demonstrating that you can work together to solve problems will carry you a long way when the regions create their budgets |
| 02:55 | meeting | <KaiXo-es> bernie, that is one of the priorities |
| 02:55 | <cjl-es> thank you KaiXo | |
| 02:56 | <alfredo-es> At last we understand us. As it is that you were treated? | |
| 02:56 | <quidam-es> If there have been errors, in place to separate , by that they do not join in *sugarlabs *peru, form boards, and take decisions between varied? | |
| 02:56 | <kiko__-es> It TIES it has not been consulted to present such budget. I think that before presenting a big budget, corresponds to argue it, no? | |
| 02:56 | <bernie-es> kiko__: it Is well that TIES goes to *gestir the bottoms? (*is *it *ok *for *you *to *let TIES *manage *the *funds?) | |
| 02:57 | <kiko__-es> It TIES it has not evaluated the budget | |
| 02:57 | <kiko__-es> But it TIES can | |
| 02:57 | <kiko__-es> If it is that we do the things *ordenadamente | |
| 02:57 | <KaiXo-es> That only it bases in the *SUGARNETWORK that develop alsroot, forgetting the aim that is the *eduacion and that *SUGAR help to this end but in case only it can not needs of the people that make it possible | |
| 02:57 | <kaametza-es> *kiko The budget was prepared with Juan Camilo | |
| 02:57 | <kiko__-es> It TIES it has not seen this budget | |
| 02:58 | <kiko__-es> Already it was presented to the ministry? | |
| 02:58 | <KaiXo-es> If | |
| 02:58 | <KaiXo-es> Already it was presented | |
| 02:58 | <kaametza-es> *kiko There is *algun problem? | |
| 02:58 | <kiko__-es> I can not answer I only by TIES | |
| 02:58 | <kiko__-es> We have not reviewed | |
| 02:59 | <neyder-es> In process but already presented, hallucinate! | |
| 02:59 | <kiko__-es> I no it *conocia | |
| 02:59 | <icarito-es> neyder and also she remained until the 11 of the night by call with KaiXo *ayudandole to prepare the budget that *Escuelab *Puno presented in the *Municipalidad | |
| 02:59 | <kaametza-es> *Kiko Was shared with Sandro *Marcone | |
| 02:59 | <kiko__-es> *ok | |
| 02:59 | <kiko__-es> well The same it can always review and converse | |
| 02:59 | <kaametza-es> The this doing his recommendations | |
| 02:59 | <quidam-es> They remember me you to the groups of free software in *galicia, there is four in each village, each one wants to do the things to his way... And never it does at all | |
| 03:00 | <kiko__-es> But serious well that TIES was knowledgeable | |
| 03:00 | <kiko__-es> well, it does years that are knowledgeable of the intention | |
| 03:00 | <KaiXo-es> icarito, kaametza we appreciate but we are not saying that we did it we alone, | |
| 03:00 | <kaametza-es> Although I understand that these of head in the of *FITEL | |
| 03:00 | <kiko__-es> ? | |
| 03:00 | <kiko__-es> Of head? | |
| 03:00 | <icarito-es> =Very busy | |
| 03:01 | <kiko__-es> They assume, boys | |
| 03:01 | <kaametza-es> oh | |
| 03:01 | <kaametza-es> *jajajaja | |
| 03:01 | <bernie-es> kiko__, kaametza: no this sure that *comprendi' all the one who *dicio'... But *parese that have a *mayoria in favour of *trasferir the *fundos to TIES? | |
| 03:01 | <kiko__-es> : ) | |
| 03:01 | <KaiXo-es> bernie, if we follow *asi go *atacrnos but serious well define this point, we present our annoyances and the reasons for the retreat of this exclusive project | |
| 03:01 | <neyder-es> **Hexoquinas | |
| 03:02 | <kaametza-es> *asi Is David, officially do not do part of the team *Hexoquinasa | |
| 03:02 | <KaiXo-es> bernie, *seguieremos *trajando from *puno with cjl in the translations *quechua and *aimara | |
| 03:02 | <icarito-es> *aqui There is the first reference to *Hexoquinasa http://git.sugarlabs.org/hexokinase | |
| 03:03 | <KaiXo-es> bernie, the project is of them and for them, do not wish to do May conflict | |
| 03:03 | <kaametza-es> This all documented | |
| 03:03 | <KaiXo-es> bernie, greater conflict | |
| 03:03 | <icarito-es> If | |
| 03:04 | <icarito-es> http://pe.sugarlabs.org/go/principios | |
| 03:04 | <icarito-es> We regret that they have withdrawn | |
| 03:04 | <icarito-es> But we have to go on with the project | |
| 03:04 | <icarito-es> alsroot it has developed a very beautiful platform and engaged us with him to execute a pilot and go it to do | |
| 03:04 | <kaametza-es> We will do *Sugar *Camp *Puno 2012 | |
| 03:04 | <quidam-es> That think to associate all to *sugarlabs *peru and create a board for the management of bottoms and budgets? | |
| 03:04 | <KaiXo-es> bernie, we will finish what begin *aqui in *Puno, know that *estan observing our work in *Puno with or without resources *hara | |
| 03:05 | <quidam-es> So that they do not take decisions of unilateral form | |
| 03:05 | <alfredo-es> From now on I suggest to differentiate resources and money, that ARE DIFFERENT | |
| 03:06 | <icarito-es> KaiXo, only I ask them that *porfavor distinguish the name of his project if it is that it is different of http://pe.sugarlabs.org/go/pro[…]iloto_hexoquinasa | |
| 03:06 | <kaametza-es> *Potencializar The use of the *XO | |
| 03:06 | <icarito-es> neyder, it is alone to avoid confusion, there are not patents of by half, but marks | |
| 03:06 | <quidam-es> neyder: if all participate in the same *organizacion and form boards of *decision, this is not a problem | |
| 03:07 | <KaiXo-es> You do not concern you this you already have it covered, do not need of us | |
| 03:07 | <quidam-es> The problem *aqui, is that there are individual people taking important decisions, that *deberian to be approved by a board | |
| 03:07 | <icarito-es> KaiXo, like kaametza it said, his contribution always is very received | |
| 03:07 | <quidam-es> In these together *deberia to have representatives of each local group | |
| 03:07 | bernie | #link http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/909584/ |
| 03:08 | meeting | <quidam-es> It gives the same that group was, while all the local groups *esten represented |
| 03:08 | <KaiXo-es> quidam, have a lot of *razon but does not do , but *hara??????????? | |
| 03:08 | <quidam-es> It is very *facil! | |
| 03:08 | <quidam-es> Only it is necessary to do it, the register is free, choose a group in which all can participate | |
| 03:09 | <quidam-es> I suggest *sugarlabs *peru, but can be any one | |
| 03:09 | <Koke-es> To us in Commas interests us the subject of *Hexoquinasa | |
| 03:09 | <alfredo-es> Until today | |
| 03:09 | <icarito-es> We think that this pilot would be less costly and can retort the conditions of necessary disconnection for *pilotear *Hexoquinasa / *Sugar *Network and *Harmonic *Distribution | |
| 03:09 | <KaiXo-es> bernie, these *ahi | |
| 03:09 | <Koke-es> It is the starting point to start with to move the subject of the image and his *implicancias pedagogical, of investigation and development | |
| 03:10 | <icarito-es> Koke, exact for this is *Sugar *Network | |
| 03:10 | <icarito-es> *Hexoquinasa Is not a program of qualification | |
| 03:10 | <KaiXo-es> Koke, this is the work in which *creiamos be participating in *HEXOQUINASA | |
| 03:10 | <KaiXo-es> Koke, *ahi is the challenge, not doing but software with the apologies to alsroot | |
| 03:11 | <Koke-es> In Commas go to aim in the work with networks, educational *AIP, *DAT and volunteers. We think that without the support of social networks do not walk to any place} | |
| 03:11 | <alfredo-es> I expect that the citizens of the future read all this *algun *dia and *rian of us | |
| 03:11 | <Koke-es> If that was the fetter in the national vision of deployment | |
| 03:11 | <neyder-es> alfredo, very *porbablente until us | |
| 03:11 | <kaametza-es> alfredo, you are the voice | |
| 03:11 | <icarito-es> alfredo, +1 ! | |
| 03:11 | <bernie-es> quidam: I'm sorry, my *espanl is not the sufficiently good to follow this conversation. It could call to a *votacion in the idea to transfer the bottoms to TIE and go *Escuelab Lima assign the bottoms to *Puno and other projects?... | |
| 03:11 | <Koke-es> In an intervention *focalizada like the zonal 12 of *collique the things have to turn around the networks of educational | |
| 03:11 | <Koke-es> *fisicas And virtual | |
| 03:11 | <KaiXo-es> *ahi Did not say them *hernan *pachas that is the aim , but not doing but software | |
| 03:12 | <quidam-es> neyder: there is *algun community in which all the groups of local work can participate and feel *comodos? It is preferable that do *borron and new account to that separate and leave to collaborate | |
| 03:12 | <kiko__-es> bernie, technically IT TIES it can receive donation, the problem is that it does not know how do in this case as they generate a lot of conflicts... Which is the money of the that are speaking? Transfer which money? | |
| 03:12 | <icarito-es> KaiXo, *pucha but the same this is the community *Sugar and is something that know to do and that it can help to a lot of users | |
| 03:12 | <Koke-es> It does while that come laughing the boys of us... Neither account have given us | |
| 03:13 | <alfredo-es> Koke: +1 | |
| 03:13 | <Koke-es> I think that it has written a lot. It is necessary to close the conversation with two or three central ideas. | |
| 03:13 | <icarito-es> Koke, kiko__ we have developed the platform that *siemper wanted to | |
| 03:13 | <kiko__-es> It TIES it can receive and distribute if it is that it is clear who has to receive the money *despues | |
| 03:13 | <icarito-es> The one of the *chaskis | |
| 03:14 | <cjl-es> Koke: +1 | |
| 03:14 | <icarito-es> alsroot and I will do a *release in the next hours of the *version 0.1 | |
| 03:14 | <KaiXo-es> bernie, the *votacion and close the subject of money, | |
| 03:14 | <quidam-es> neyder: well, then they have to reorganise, but divide does not go to help | |
| 03:14 | <icarito-es> Of agreement to the *cronograma, and will be smart for *pilotear on 1 June | |
| 03:14 | <Koke-es> How in all democratic order, was popular or liberal: it is time to to vote | |
| 03:15 | <Koke-es> Universal vote, opened and free | |
| 03:15 | <kiko__-es> Eye! | |
| 03:15 | <kiko__-es> It TIES no *recibira | |
| 03:15 | <neyder-es> On the bottoms handled by TIE, already vote | |
| 03:15 | <kiko__-es> *dienro If it is that no | |
| 03:15 | <icarito-es> neyder, the one who voted? | |
| 03:15 | <kiko__-es> It knows to the one who goes | |
| 03:15 | cjl | Aymara and Quechua need work to be ready by June |
| 03:15 | meeting | <neyder-es> All, your voted "No" |
| 03:15 | <icarito-es> neyder, this was not a *votacion | |
| 03:16 | <quidam-es> neyder: no all, there is two us and two *sis, create | |
| 03:16 | <kaametza-es> There are rules | |
| 03:16 | <neyder-es> Voucher | |
| 03:16 | <kiko__-es> (I lost me the *votacion) | |
| 03:16 | <alfredo-es> That it remain clear that any future attempt of some part to transform our *horizontallidad in *verticalidad has to be reported | |
| 03:16 | <Koke-es> We are more organic (question of order). We go to the regulation | |
| 03:16 | <quidam-es> They vote again, or they propose another organism to handle the bottoms | |
| 03:17 | <icarito-es> bernie, quidam, we would agree that it TIES receive the bottoms if it is that it agrees that the board of supervision of *Sugar *Labs Peru decides on them | |
| 03:17 | <icarito-es> This would satisfy the *req of *kiko | |
| 03:17 | <icarito-es> I create | |
| 03:17 | <alfredo-es> icarito: +1 | |
| 03:17 | <cjl-es> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/fiscal_sponsorship | |
| 03:17 | <kaametza-es> icarito: +1 | |
| 03:17 | <bernie-es> kiko__: I refer me to the $2211 that now *estan in the account *bancartia of icarito, and *tambien the $2211 additional that go to *trasferir *proximamente | |
| 03:17 | <quidam-es> It seems me well if all do partners of *sugarlabs *perú (as it has to be) and at least one of each local group participates in the board | |
| 03:17 | <KaiXo-es> It does not treat to remain well if you do not feel it gave *simplemete that no | |
| 03:18 | <kiko__-es> bernie, but those are little money, better distribute them from *alolí as it decide | |
| 03:18 | <kiko__-es> From there... | |
| 03:18 | <quidam-es> kiko__: it is better to do it well although they are $5, not to seat precedents | |
| 03:18 | <kiko__-es> *ok | |
| 03:19 | <Koke-es> We have to define with precision the decision. Now it is this figure, afterwards will be others. It is necessary to look to forward. | |
| 03:19 | <icarito-es> quidam, kiko__, bernie anyway we also are had to operate of agreement to what decide the board | |
| 03:19 | <alfredo-es> *Quidam: +1 | |
| 03:19 | <neyder-es> And give him | |
| 03:19 | <kiko__-es> More than costly is *trabajoso | |
| 03:19 | <icarito-es> If as | |
| 03:19 | <kaametza-es> There is not problem for us in depositing the bottoms where was required by the Board, as it mentioned them the *reemboslo of Irma already was deposited | |
| 03:20 | <Koke-es> They excuse, but with it TIES it is very *engorroso, bureaucratic would say I... | |
| 03:20 | <kiko__-es> If, *tambien is it,, by a mount small is works | |
| 03:20 | <neyder-es> Koke, but it is that donations for projects go to personal accounts | |
| 03:20 | <neyder-es> *Worse is | |
| 03:20 | <quidam-es> Koke: receive donations of out is *engorroso, can not avoid | |
| 03:20 | <bernie-es> kaametza: *parese that no *teniemos agreement *sovra the Board of *Spervision, therefore it can be that *Escuelab Lima constitutes a neutral part. | |
| 03:20 | <quidam-es> And they are *montos small now | |
| 03:20 | <icarito-es> neyder, having transparency *cual is the problem? | |
| 03:21 | <Koke-es> They employ an account *mancomunda | |
| 03:21 | <neyder-es> By that the project presents to the state | |
| 03:21 | <Koke-es> I do not know there are several modalities | |
| 03:21 | <kaametza-es> Koke, that is this *Koke? | |
| 03:21 | <Koke-es> In the market | |
| 03:21 | <neyder-es> There is *burrocracia that *lastimosamente it is necessary to fulfil | |
| 03:21 | <neyder-es> But not generating, ( like the one of repayments) | |
| 03:22 | <icarito-es> neyder, http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/finance | |
| 03:22 | <Koke-es> I think that after reading several times the texts, conclude that the subject is that it does not define in where it deposits the money | |
| 03:22 | <quidam-es> kaametza: I do not think that this have to vote , *deberia to be *informacion publishes | |
| 03:22 | <kaametza-es> It is necessary to collaborate with the central government if we want scalar to national level | |
| 03:22 | <quidam-es> well, as I am the one of out and no vote, do the proposal | |
| 03:22 | <icarito-es> We have to carry follow-up of the resources if we have to be effective in the achievement of ours put | |
| 03:22 | <icarito-es> neyder, +1 | |
| 03:23 | <kaametza-es> *aqui The important are the people | |
| 03:23 | <neyder-es> Therefore it is that the donations arrive to people *juridicas, the *APCI asks this | |
| 03:23 | <Koke-es> For the concrete, consider that it TIES is not the most recommended. | |
| 03:23 | <kaametza-es> I was I the one who *comprometio to present him (in less than 24 *hrs) a budget "coherente" of the project | |
| 03:23 | <Koke-es> Then where it goes the money? | |
| 03:23 | <Koke-es> To a private account? | |
| 03:23 | <Koke-es> Better consider that it go to an account *mancumanado | |
| 03:24 | <neyder-es> *auditoria | |
| 03:24 | <quidam-es> That think that the money administer it TIE, under the *direccion of the board of *Sugarlabs *Peru, and that the presents *empiezen to participate in *sugarlabs *peru? | |
| 03:24 | cjl | wishes that more important discussions would occur on the somosazucar list and fewer with a limited distribution list for the sake of transparency. |
| 03:24 | meeting | <icarito-es> neyder well there are organisations that loan this service to projects like us |
| 03:24 | <kiko__-es> They listen | |
| 03:24 | <Koke-es> Speech *Mayorga | |
| 03:24 | <neyder-es> Therefore I said it TIES. If there are others, no under a vertical control, well. | |
| 03:25 | <alfredo-es> cjl: +1 | |
| 03:25 | <kiko__-es> No | |
| 03:25 | <Koke-es> This sounds more logical in the context | |
| 03:25 | <kaametza-es> kiko__, ? | |
| 03:25 | <KaiXo-es> *somoazucar And the board of supervisors of *sugarlabs *peru are the same thing | |
| 03:26 | <KaiXo-es> There is not community *ahi | |
| 03:26 | <Koke-es> *Hey David... If that there is *comuidad | |
| 03:26 | <Koke-es> Community | |
| 03:26 | <KaiXo-es> Koke, your participated in all these *desiciones that's why we say this | |
| 03:26 | <alfredo-es> *Analogia: General assembly and Managerial Board | |
| 03:26 | <kaametza-es> It is thanks to the community that had *Sugar *Camp Lima 2011 | |
| 03:27 | <alfredo-es> If there is community | |
| 03:27 | <Koke-es> Clear that there is comunidad.la *analogía is healthy | |
| 03:27 | <KaiXo-es> Koke, alfredo your participated in all these *desiciones that's why we say this, but only decides an alone personal | |
| 03:27 | <bernie-es> kaametza, icarito, neyder, KaiXo, kiko__: I *have *to *go, *sorry. *For *the *time *being, *ok *to *transfer *the *funds ($2211) *to TIES *then? -- Have to go me. *Intonces This well to all of *trasferir all the *fundos ($2211) to TIE / *Escuelab Lima? | |
| 03:27 | <KaiXo-es> If | |
| 03:27 | <kaametza-es> David, *confia | |
| 03:27 | <bernie-es> I vote +1 | |
| 03:27 | <Koke-es> The subject is that build community is not at all simple. Less if we have not been formed to work in community. | |
| 03:27 | <KaiXo-es> I *voyo +1 | |
| 03:28 | <alfredo-es> *Bernie: +1 | |
| 03:28 | <kiko__-es> It TIES it DOES not GO *ARECIBIR THE MONEY WITHOUT KNOWING To THE ONE WHO GOES To GO | |
| 03:28 | <kaametza-es> +1 *Kiko | |
| 03:28 | <Koke-es> Afterwards of all the read and reread is the best option +1 | |
| 03:28 | <kiko__-es> (Speaking with *jorge *villacorta) | |
| 03:28 | cjl | A community does not exist because a person declares it, a community arises from a shared vision and mutual trust. |
| 03:29 | meeting | <Koke-es> In this are |
| 03:29 | walterbender | +1 |
| 03:29 | meeting | <alfredo-es> +1 |
| 03:29 | <Koke-es> (What says *Villacorta?) | |
| 03:29 | <kaametza-es> *faltaria See that it says Juan Camilo, by that somebody goes to have to assume this financial cost | |
| 03:29 | <quidam-es> I do not have vote *aqui, but suggest them that it was the one who was the depository of the bottoms, the decisions take them a board in which there is a representative of each local group, at least | |
| 03:29 | <KaiXo-es> We appreciate to bernie by everything and the annoyances caused, but we like *Escuelab *Puno are not asking money | |
| 03:30 | <Koke-es> It explains a *poquitín this Laura | |
| 03:30 | <Koke-es> *Hey That happens? They will not be asking... But it needs !!! | |
| 03:30 | <alfredo-es> Koke: +1 | |
| 03:30 | <Koke-es> It explains + | |
| 03:31 | <kaametza-es> That they are the 2211 available of Google | |
| 03:31 | <Koke-es> It follows | |
| 03:31 | <bernie-es> kiko__: I can not *esprimirme well in *espanol, *intonses: *i *expect *Escuelab *to *make *this *decision *autonomously, *taking *into *account *my original *intention *to *direct *the *donation *to "sustain the project in Puno, but also help any related projects in Lima" | |
| 03:31 | <bernie-es> kiko__: *see http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/909584/ *for *the *context | |
| 03:32 | <kiko__-es> *ok bernie, *thanks... | |
| 03:32 | <kiko__-es> *i *just *dont *really *know *yet | |
| 03:32 | <KaiXo-es> well Clearing is us that we despise the money is always necessary | |
| 03:33 | <kiko__-es> *ok Then, in what will spend the donation? Or still they have to decide it? | |
| 03:33 | <KaiXo-es> Our problem has not been the money, but the forms of as it handles everything of *sugarlabs *peru | |
| 03:33 | cjl | It sounds like people need to talk to other people before a truly final answer is possible. Should we consider meeting again? |
| 03:34 | meeting | <quidam-es> cjl: +1 |
| 03:34 | <KaiXo-es> cjl, +1 | |
| 03:34 | <kiko__-es> cjl, +1 | |
| 03:34 | <kaametza-es> cjl, +1 | |
| 03:34 | <Koke-es> cjl: +1 | |
| 03:35 | cjl | How many days are needed for kiko to talk to ata and kaametza to talk ot Juan Camillo (or whoever). |
| 03:35 | meeting | <Koke-es> *hey... That happens *Neyder |
| 03:36 | <icarito-es> neyder you can *enrolarte in *Sugar *Labs and automatically would be of the board | |
| 03:36 | <neyder-es> Koke, we do not feel us *representador in *SugarLabs *Peru, the idea of quidam is good, but insists in keeping the things as they were before this *reunion | |
| 03:36 | <icarito-es> A place remained vacant because there were not more members | |
| 03:36 | <kaametza-es> Juan Camilo this in Santiago of Chile by these *dias, took a bit | |
| 03:36 | <quidam-es> neyder: this is something to correct, then | |
| 03:36 | <quidam-es> Achieve that *sugarlabs *peru represent to all the groups | |
| 03:36 | <alfredo-es> icarito: +1 | |
| 03:36 | <neyder-es> It is not something, like having a place in the board | |
| 03:37 | <icarito-es> That think the others members of the board *persentes, Koke alfredo *kaametza? | |
| 03:37 | bernie | kiko__: I'm not asking Escuelab to make a sudden decision today. You can take a reasonable amount of time and use your best judgment. In the end someone has to manage this money, and Escuelab seems to be an impartial entity for everyone. |
| 03:37 | meeting | <neyder-es> Koke, alfredo, *confio in you, |
| 03:37 | <kaametza-es> That think *Neyder and David | |
| 03:37 | <quidam-es> neyder: it is that each group have at least to somebody in the board, and that do not exist individual people with capacity of *decision own | |
| 03:37 | <bernie-es> *intonses Go to do one another *reunion another *dia? | |
| 03:38 | <quidam-es> *sugarlabs *peru Finishes to be born, if it is necessary to correct things, the moment is now | |
| 03:38 | <neyder-es> Or second is but to what aim (personally) | |
| 03:38 | <Koke-es> We can use audio | |
| 03:38 | cjl | Meet again in one week? |
| 03:38 | meeting | <Koke-es> Or a live meeting |
| 03:38 | <Koke-es> ? | |
| 03:38 | <Koke-es> Before the chat | |
| 03:38 | <alfredo-es> neyder: +1 | |
| 03:38 | <KaiXo-es> I propose that it form a board but but on top of the *sugar *peru, that was of *interes of use of the Tics, *educacion | |
| 03:38 | <kaametza-es> David, *Neyder, that *sigieren you to define the 7*mo member of the Board | |
| 03:39 | <kiko__-es> : ) *ok bernie, go it to decide afterwards of a bit but of reflection and *comunicacion | |
| 03:39 | <KaiXo-es> *q No east in *sugar but each one of the organisations was part of her | |
| 03:39 | <icarito-es> KaiXo, in *Sugar *Labs? | |
| 03:39 | <KaiXo-es> No | |
| 03:39 | <icarito-es> *ahi Have a place in the board :-) | |
| 03:39 | <icarito-es> 2 explaining to alsroot | |
| 03:39 | <icarito-es> :-) | |
| 03:40 | <KaiXo-es> The subject of money this decide, happen to another point | |
| 03:40 | <neyder-es> I do not want a place, what do not want that only some decide by all! | |
| 03:40 | <neyder-es> In the board | |
| 03:40 | walterbender has quit IRC | |
| 03:40 | meeting | <bernie-es> Koke: us others are remote and many have *dificoltad to *comprendir *espanol spoken. *intonses Prefer *IRC if possible. |
| 03:41 | <kaametza-es> We go to groins ? | |
| 03:41 | <bernie-es> kaametza: *ok | |
| 03:41 | <quidam-es> neyder: maybe *deberias to participate in boards although it do not like you ;) | |
| 03:41 | <bernie-es> kaametza: *but *i *have *to *leave | |
| 03:41 | neyder | so here we are |
| 03:41 | meeting | <kaametza-es> Sandro has requested support of our part |
| 03:42 | <kaametza-es> And we *neesitamos yours | |
| 03:42 | <bernie-es> kaametza: *how *about *we *find *another give you *for to *second *meeting? | |
| 03:42 | <cjl-es> *Meet *again *in *one *week? | |
| 03:42 | cjl | Meet again in one week? |
| 03:42 | meeting | <quidam-es> *ok, I go me to sleep (5:42am!), greetings to all :) |
| 03:42 | <kaametza-es> bernie, it seems me a good idea | |
| 03:42 | <bernie-es> kaametza: I *have no *time *during *the *work *week, *therefore *if *it'*s *ok *for *everyone *we *could *do *it *next *Saturday *at *the *same *time | |
| 03:43 | <quidam-es> :D | |
| 03:43 | <cjl-es> bernie +1 | |
| 03:43 | alfredo | cjl: +1 |
| 03:43 | meeting | <icarito-es> * Anyway if *algun *escuelab has a vacant place in his boards, some of us could be interested... |
| 03:43 | <kaametza-es> I *think *next *Saturday *is to *Saint *Day | |
| 03:43 | <neyder-es> *escuelab Is not a board :) | |
| 03:43 | <icarito-es> neyder, *escuelab is not democratic | |
| 03:43 | <icarito-es> Neither open | |
| 03:43 | <kaametza-es> neyder it is well that learn but on *escuelab all | |
| 03:44 | <neyder-es> Each *escuelab is independent, share the *espiritu, but are independent, | |
| 03:44 | <kiko__-es> +1neyder. | |
| 03:44 | <kaametza-es> Like researcher associated from 2009, am a firm believer of the need of the existence of a *escpacio open for the development of *Tecnologia | |
| 03:44 | <kiko__-es> *escuelab Is diverse and flexible | |
| 03:45 | <kiko__-es> Each *escuelabx can explore his own model | |
| 03:45 | cjl | good night |
| 03:45 | meeting | <icarito-es> Never I want to *desmerecer all the support received of *escuelab like researcher associated |
| 03:45 | <icarito-es> And to the people behind *escuelab | |
| 03:46 | <kaametza-es> All the work that do the researchers associated is *acreditable *for *dfecto to the concept of *escuelab | |
| 03:46 | <icarito-es> Good night for *tí also cjl, thank you by your time! | |
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| 03:47 | meeting | <KaiXo-es> thank you By the *alclaraciones, but receives us *ironicamente |
| 03:48 | bernie | icarito: this may sound a little bad, but when it comes to manage a budget I don't think it's important to implement real democracy or other principles of justice. What really matters in the end is what results get produced, so that you can use them to ask for more funds |
| 03:49 | meeting | <icarito-es> bernie, +1 by a criterion by results |
| 03:50 | <icarito-es> bernie, http://pe.sugarlabs.org/go/pro[…]iloto_hexoquinasa it is in execution now delivering version 0.1 for *testing | |
| 03:50 | <KaiXo-es> bernie, appreciate you all the support and apology that put you in this *aprietos, open the doors to kiko__ , bernie, quidam,cjl can supervise the work in *Puno | |
| 03:50 | <KaiXo-es> When *asi wish it | |
| 03:50 | <KaiXo-es> kiko__, thank you | |
| 03:51 | icarito | bernie, and we will pilot |
| 03:51 | alfredo | KaiXo: +1 |
| 03:51 | bernie | thanks to everyone, i really must go now! |
| 03:51 | meeting | <kiko__-es> thank you *bernie! |
| 03:51 | <icarito-es> thank you bernie | |
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| 03:52 | meeting | <icarito-es> I keep on being candidate to his boards :-) |
| 03:52 | alfredo | thank you bernie! |
| 03:52 | meeting | <bernie-es> kaametza: oh, *one *last *thing: *maybe *you *could *write *an email *to *everyone *to *set to *new give you *for *the *next *meeting? *any *day *after 8*pm *would *work *for me |
| 03:52 | <KaiXo-es> I am not I but the people that forms part of *escuelab *puno | |
| 03:53 | bernie | <bernie> kaametza: oh, one last thing: maybe you could write an email to everyone to set a new date for the next meeting? any day after 8pm would work for me |
| 03:53 | meeting | <icarito-es> I want that all are attentive to the *RELEASE that will do *aleksey |
| 03:54 | <icarito-es> It is the 0.1 of the developed for the pilot of the network of support | |
| 03:54 | bernie | icarito: aleksey rocks |
| 03:54 | meeting | <kaametza-es> And *tambien is us necessary resolve the subject of contents |
| 03:54 | icarito | bernie, he built an awesome toy foru s |
| 03:54 | *for us | |
| 03:54 | bernie, we need to refund him too | |
| 03:55 | meeting | <icarito-es> * I'm sorry for writing in groins |
| 03:55 | bernie | icarito: how much money are we talking about? |
| 03:55 | meeting | <quidam-es> icarito: and they do not forget of *toast! In brief will have *version new, but me *gustaria follow working with you so that it was a project *util and with use |
| 03:55 | <icarito-es> I said: alsroot it did an excellent toy for us - need *reembolsarle to him also | |
| 03:56 | * kiko__ has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) | |
| 03:56 | <icarito-es> quidam, excellent, have smart packages for *Trisquel | |
| 03:56 | <kaametza-es> *Bernie *will *do | |
| 03:56 | <quidam-es> icarito: *genial, already know that if they want to *algun change accept suggestions :) | |
| 03:56 | <icarito-es> quidam, I am very excited with what has done *aleksey | |
| 03:57 | <kaametza-es> quidam you are a very good *moderador ;or) | |
| 03:57 | <quidam-es> *jajaj | |
| 03:57 | <icarito-es> quidam, +1! | |
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| 03:57 | meeting | <quidam-es> And this that are the 6, if you saw me awake... |
| 03:57 | <quidam-es> :D | |
| 03:58 | <kaametza-es> We finish the *reu then? | |
| 03:58 | <icarito-es> bernie #endmeeting *then? | |
| 03:58 | <kaametza-es> There is a lot for doing | |
| 03:58 | <icarito-es> kaametza, +1 | |
| 03:59 | bernie | icarito: yes |
| 03:59 | #endmeeting | |
| 03:59 | meeting | Meeting ended Sun Apr 1 03:59:30 2012 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. (v 0.1.4) |
| 03:59 | Minutes: http://meeting.ole.org/sugar-m[…]-01T01:32:07.html | |
| 03:59 | Log: http://meeting.ole.org/sugar-m[…]12-04-01T01:32:07 | |
| 03:59 | <icarito-es> Thanks to all by his time | |
| 04:00 | bernie | icarito: let me know how much we still owe to aleksey, i'll see what i can do to help. |
| 04:00 | leaves | |
| 04:01 | icarito | bernie, kaametza knows exactly |
| 04:03 | meeting | <kaametza-es> Because the does not do part of *Escuelab *Puno? |
| 04:03 | alsroot | is not sure if there are tails |
| 04:04 | icarito | alsroot, i was looking exactly for that |
| 04:04 | http://meeting.ole.org/sugar-m[…]12-04-01T01:32:07 is the bad autotrans | |
| 04:04 | alsroot, I can paste my buffer to a wiki page perhaps? | |
| 04:04 | alsroot, or email to you | |
| 04:04 | meeting | <KaiXo-es> This in his inland revenue, |
| 04:05 | <Koke-es> They excuse | |
| 04:05 | <KaiXo-es> The is founder of *escuelab *puno | |
| 04:05 | <Koke-es> I lost me when going down to *chequear the dinner | |
| 04:05 | <KaiXo-es> And this to the so much of everything | |
| 04:06 | <KaiXo-es> Before the *reunion of today converse with each member of *escuelab *puno has to say what say | |
| 04:06 | <Koke-es> Have to leave them | |
| 04:06 | alsroot | will read backlog after finishing 0.1 |
| 04:06 | meeting | <kaametza-es> *osea That the *tambien wants to withdraw ? |
| 04:06 | <Koke-es> Very good nights | |
| 04:06 | <Koke-es> One thousand apologies | |
| 04:06 | <icarito-es> Good nights *koke | |
| 04:06 | <kaametza-es> *provecho! | |
| 04:06 | <Koke-es> We follow it... | |
| 04:07 | <Koke-es> icarito: *ping | |
| 04:07 | icarito | alsroot, ok i'm up for helping and giving last touches |
| 04:07 | meeting | <kaametza-es> David because never you sent me a budget? |
| 04:07 | <KaiXo-es> Our *desicion was taken by all | |
| 04:07 | <kaametza-es> *especificamente Speak them of the activities that needed do | |
| 04:08 | <kaametza-es> To identify to the *beneficiarios of the pilot | |
| 04:08 | <KaiXo-es> This watch your | |
| 04:08 | <KaiXo-es> It is your project | |
| 04:08 | <KaiXo-es> We will not be part of the | |
| 04:08 | <kaametza-es> You *pedi this budget from 6 January | |
| 04:09 | <icarito-es> KaiXo, it was for the activities that your estimate convenient | |
| 04:09 | <icarito-es> Anybody said you what had to do | |
| 04:09 | <icarito-es> Only that you defined it and you paid it | |
| 04:09 | <icarito-es> That is to say you estimate it | |
| 04:09 | <KaiXo-es> icarito, it understands it does not interest us be part | |
| 04:09 | * Koke-es has left | |
| 04:10 | <KaiXo-es> They see like *ustede develop it | |
| 04:10 | <KaiXo-es> Already they have his diagram | |
| 04:10 | <KaiXo-es> Always that was the *interes | |
| 04:10 | <KaiXo-es> Of our part | |
| 04:10 | <kaametza-es> As now we have the opportunity | |
| 04:10 | <KaiXo-es> And thanks to god gave us a space | |
| 04:12 | <kaametza-es> It is time to to join strengths, no to retreat | |
| 04:12 | <KaiXo-es> *haganlo Support them spiritually | |
| 04:12 | <KaiXo-es> In everything | |
| 04:12 | <kaametza-es> We need that they approve your budget *tambien | |
| 04:12 | <KaiXo-es> But *nuestas hands *estan busy doing the ours | |
| 04:12 | <KaiXo-es> Of this do not concern you *ahi walk slow but sure | |
| 04:13 | <KaiXo-es> No *ncesitamos *piediendo help | |
| 04:13 | <KaiXo-es> This time happen | |
| 04:14 | <icarito-es> I think that we if we can ask his help | |
| 04:14 | <icarito-es> There is not at all of bad in asking | |
| 04:14 | <KaiXo-es> Then *haganlo | |
| 04:14 | <icarito-es> The aim is noble | |
| 04:14 | <KaiXo-es> Of the people *nose | |
| 04:14 | <kaametza-es> Good night in the earth of the gods | |
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| 04:14 | meeting | <neyder-es> We no *estabos under anybody, are to the side of all |
| 04:15 | <kaametza-es> *Neyder Please *reformula your message because it is not me clear | |
| 04:16 | <kaametza-es> We are a local community like edges now exposed to the global community | |
| 04:16 | <kaametza-es> Anybody this on of anybody | |
| 04:17 | <kaametza-es> We are *aqui to give us bear ones to others | |
| 04:17 | <kaametza-es> All are *aprendices | |
| 04:18 | <icarito-es> neyder, like community joins us http://pe.sugarlabs.org/go/principios | |
| 04:18 | <icarito-es> Like community *Sugar *Labs | |
| 04:18 | <icarito-es> If we agree in this, are members of the community | |
| 04:19 | <icarito-es> (In accordance with this and following the process) | |
| 04:20 | <KaiXo-es> thank you That *descancen | |
| 04:20 | <KaiXo-es> And good thought *oara all | |
| 04:20 | <neyder-es> Thank you! That they rest, I withdraw me! | |
| 04:21 | * KaiXo-es has left ("Leaving") | |
| 04:21 | <icarito-es> thank you Equally | |
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