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| 13:17 | m_anish | dirakx, alsroot quick chat? (we've been irregular with our weekly meetings for a few weeks) :/ |
| 13:18 | alsroot | fine for me |
| 13:18 | m_anish | alsroot, ok (/me generally wanting to catch up) |
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| 15:50 | Icarito-6f6e | bernie, alsroot, cjb, werent we going to hold a meeting for SLOBs? |
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| 15:54 | alsroot | Icarito-6f6e: at least, if I got it right, the idea was to handle weekly meeting until sorting out Teams/Labs reports to rehash current situation |
| 15:54 | but /me is a bit lost w/ current progress | |
| 15:55 | Icarito-6f6e | alsroot: there are topics from the agenda we haven't discussed |
| 15:56 | guess we need to coordinate over email | |
| 15:57 | alsroot | yeah |
| 16:05 | Icarito-6f6e | i'm polishing a release of websdk |
| 16:05 | working on documentation | |
| 16:06 | alsroot | Icarito-6f6e: btw, did you look if it is possible to use dbus in websdk based code? |
| 16:11 | Icarito-6f6e | i haven't tried it, but it should |
| 16:14 | alsroot: i'm really interested in building this front-end but I haven't been able to prioritize this | |
| 16:14 | all pointers are welcome | |
| 16:17 | alsroot | Icarito-6f6e: I'm looking for that because Sweets needs a UI, it is possible to adapt current Home view to Sweets but it is too simple (no rates, reviews, etc) and it should be changed to handle remote items (ie working in web browser style) |
| 16:18 | Icarito-6f6e: so, instead of changing python code in the glucose, it would be better to start new project and wensdk is a good candidate, eg, coding this app as an example to proof websdk concept | |
| 16:19 | Icarito-6f6e | alsroot: yes now I understand, and I think you have a good idea |
| 16:19 | absolutely we can use dbus because we're using regular python | |
| 16:20 | can you point me to the API I should be using? | |
| 16:20 | i can't promise much atm but i'm really interested | |
| 16:21 | alsroot | Icarito-6f6e: just use current datastore as an example you can base app for now (later, this API might be tweaked but basic ideas will be preserved) |
| 16:22 | Icarito-6f6e: btw, if you are releasing websdk soon, you can call for volunteers to code this app, it seems to be a good challenge to code a la ubuntu AppCenter for Sugar | |
| 16:25 | Icarito-6f6e | alsroot: query the datastore for activity bundles then? |
| 16:26 | alsroot | Icarito-6f6e: it doesn't matter, ds will be a good start based backend (but w/o running these db object) |
| 16:28 | Icarito-6f6e: ie, only browsing, querying and users' editing aspect might be implemented using ds, the launching will be implemented later using real backend | |
| 16:30 | Icarito-6f6e | alsroot: .xo files will be in the datastore? |
| 16:31 | alsroot | Icarito-6f6e: nope, I mean using ds only as a source of objects to start coding the app |
| 16:32 | later, ds will be replaced by real backend w/ returning real sweets/activities intead of fake objects | |
| 16:34 | Icarito-6f6e | ah ok i get it |
| 16:34 | alsroot: this sounds like a good plan | |
| 16:36 | alsroot: about the volunteer challenge sounds good but I guess the backend python code is something I would have to work on - we can get help for the final design | |
| 16:36 | i.e. view layer | |
| 16:36 | alsroot | Icarito-6f6e: the workflow should be simple, you query the backend using a list of key=value pairs or a pure string, and browse it in different modes |
| 16:36 | Icarito-6f6e | yes got it |
| 16:37 | i'd work on the controller I mean and then the templates would be easy to customize | |
| 16:38 | alsroot | Icarito-6f6e: also, there will be a top level paradigms like, local and remote sources of entries |
| 16:38 | Icarito-6f6e | excellent, got it |
| 16:38 | alsroot | Icarito-6f6e: I think it would be useful to separate local and remove activities |
| 16:38 | Icarito-6f6e | alsroot: this would only work in newer versions of sugar then |
| 16:39 | alsroot | Icarito-6f6e: what you mean, your websdk depends on some glucose impls? |
| 16:39 | Icarito-6f6e | no, but your dbus api is released? |
| 16:39 | websdk works even in 0.84 | |
| 16:39 | so far | |
| 16:39 | no rare deps | |
| 16:40 | alsroot | Icarito-6f6e: ah, you mean in case of using ds features to mimic further backend... |
| 16:40 | Icarito-6f6e | can this sweets api be bundled within the activity, so it works in older sugars? |
| 16:41 | alsroot | Icarito-6f6e: sweets itself, yes. but to get all benefits, people need to install PackageKit |
| 16:41 | Icarito-6f6e | hmm for query and launch remote apps would be nice to work at least for python only activities |
| 16:41 | s/apps/activities/g | |
| 16:43 | alsroot | Icarito-6f6e: well, current .xo don't have (declared) any deps at all. so it will be launched (though, the success is not guarantied) |
| 16:43 | Icarito-6f6e: but if people want to have reliable system, they need to instlal PK and use activities that have all deps declared | |
| 16:45 | Icarito-6f6e | yes agreed, just thinking of a fallback mechanism |
| 16:48 | alsroot | Icarito-6f6e: back to sources in real backend, it might be: 1) all existed (ie remote); 2) software that are in local develpment process (useful to run only what you are developing); 3) software placed to removable devices, eg, usb keys |
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| 17:01 | Icarito-6f6e | alsroot: some git integration would be nice ;-) |
| 17:02 | alsroot | Icarito-6f6e: in what sense? |
| 17:10 | bernie | Icarito-6f6e: today? |
| 17:11 | Icarito-6f6e: (that was referred to the board meeting) | |
| 17:12 | i need an advance notice of a couple of days for meetings, btw... these days i don't look at my private mail every day | |
| 17:12 | and using the calendar would be even more effective | |
| 17:23 | Icarito-6f6e | bernie: agreed |
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