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| 11:34 | satellit_ | alsroot: is surf-115 no longer on ASLO? |
| 11:35 | http://koji.fedoraproject.org/[…]1.fc16.noarch.rpm | |
| 11:52 | alsroot | satellit_: no ideas, /me sees |
| 11:53 | satellit_: there is no such activity, "surf" at all | |
| 11:53 | satellit_: did we have it on aslo? | |
| 11:54 | satellit_ | http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/S[…]_Kit#surf_browser lists surf-115.xo git and rpm locations ( It is default browser in Soas in latest versions) |
| 11:54 | yes we did have it on ASLO | |
| 11:55 | alsroot | sees to the data base |
| 11:55 | satellit_ | browse does not work anymore |
| 11:55 | alsroot | satellit_: Browse works fine but only w/ xulrunner-1.9, ie, you need to install xulrunner-1.9 for Browse (how it happens in Sweets) |
| 11:57 | satellit_ | not for Soas-v5-Coconut.... why is xulrunner-1.9 not in fedora then? is there a rpm to install? |
| 11:58 | alsroot | satellit_: dunno about fedora, I mean Sweets fetch it on its own, all you need is to run sugar (the rest, including fetching xulrunner-1.9, will be done under the hood) |
| 11:59 | satellit_ | problem is we are based on fedora 15 (soon 16) are we to abandon the Soas-spin? |
| 11:59 | alsroot | satellit_: if fedora doesn't support xulrunner-1.9 any more, you can't just install it (because you need to build pyxpcom/hulahop against it) |
| 12:00 | satellit_ | ouch! bad news. |
| 12:00 | alsroot | ..using fedora native packages, but it should work in Sweets on top of fedora |
| 12:02 | satellit_ | that means Soas is dead...(I hope not) you need to write a Soas.ks for us where sweets is installed in build with livecd-tools (If that is possible) |
| 12:02 | I am not good enough to do that...: ( | |
| 12:03 | http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/B[…]Remix_with_Fedora | |
| 12:03 | alsroot | satellit_: why it is dead, as you said it uses Surf |
| 12:04 | satellit_ | I guess that was hyperbole sorry.... |
| 12:04 | alsroot | satellit_: Sweets is not native packages, ie, you don't need .ks file for that. all you need is downloading sweets installer, run it, and run sugar under it |
| 12:04 | satellit_ | but not on a live CD or USB |
| 12:04 | alsroot | ..well, and install PackageKit |
| 12:05 | satellit_: right, Sweets is for regular using.. | |
| 12:05 | satellit_ | : ( thanks for all your work and expertise..... |
| 12:06 | can surf.xo be put back on ASLO? to get back to original question | |
| 12:07 | alsroot | satellit_: btw, I found Surf but it is v105 uploaded in 2009 and this activity is not public |
| 12:07 | satellit_ | why? |
| 12:07 | not public | |
| 12:08 | alsroot | satellit_: it wasn't nominated |
| 12:08 | but I can't download the .xo as well.. | |
| 12:08 | tries to figure out why | |
| 12:08 | satellit_ | OK how does that happen? |
| 12:09 | it was always listed as incomplete I think | |
| 12:10 | http://people.sugarlabs.org/Tgillard/Surf-115.xo is where I have it cached... | |
| 12:10 | alsroot | satellit_: got it, it is in inactive state |
| 12:10 | satellit_ | but we use it in fedora Soas...? |
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| 12:11 | satellit_ | ever since Browse would not work... |
| 12:11 | alsroot | satellit_: you need to ping the person who uploaded it, http://activities.sugarlabs.or[…]-US/sugar/user/55 |
| 12:11 | satellit_ | ok |
| 12:11 | thanks.... | |
| 12:31 | alsroot: e-mail sent (cc to you) | |
| 12:32 | alsroot | satellit_: thanks |
| 12:32 | satellit_ | thank you .... |
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| 14:40 | cjl | walterbender: SLOBS is 10 am eastern tomorrow? |
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| 14:40 | walterbender | cjl: I think UTC 15 is 11 est |
| 14:40 | cjl | ok |
| 14:40 | cjb | (edt) |
| 14:41 | it is 10 est, or 11 edt, and we're in edt | |
| 14:41 | cjl | needs a watch set to zulu time, but doesn't wear a watch |
| 14:42 | cjb thanks for the chronometric clarification | |
| 14:44 | walterbender | Swatch had a watch that was settable to Swatch time at one point: UTC+1 |
| 14:45 | I tried to get them to use 10000 HEX units per day so we could, for example, schedule a meeting at FACE | |
| 14:45 | I | |
| 14:45 | I'll meet you at the cafe at CAFE | |
| 14:46 | cjl | walterbender: The problem wit hthat is texting it by SMS would run badly afoul fo autocorrection :-) |
| 14:47 | all meeting would need to occur a cannonical dictionary times | |
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| 14:48 | raffael | Hello! No meeting today? |
| 14:48 | cjl | Although the ideas of meetings only lasting FACE to FACE has some appeal. |
| 14:48 | icarito_web | hello raffael |
| 14:48 | cjl | raffael: tomorrow for SLOSB |
| 14:48 | garycmartin | walterbender: CAFE would be 51,966, so that's like 5 days at 10000 units per day :) |
| 14:48 | icarito_web | cjl: walter's meeting reminder said today |
| 14:49 | cjl | icarito_web: Yeah, I thought so too. |
| 14:49 | raffael | Time stays at 15.00 UTC? |
| 14:49 | icarito_web | it does I just checked |
| 14:49 | yes that's in 10 minutes, walterbender ? | |
| 14:49 | walterbender | garycmartin: 10000 is FFFF+1 |
| 14:49 | raffael | Thanks. See you tomorrow then. |
| 14:49 | walterbender | icarito_web: 10 minutes plus 24 hours :P |
| 14:50 | icarito_web | walterbender: you sent a meeting reminder about today |
| 14:50 | walterbender | icarito_web: I got the day wrong in my reminder message, as was just pointed out to me today |
| 14:50 | garycmartin | walterbender: ah #10000, I see :) |
| 14:50 | icarito_web | ahh |
| 14:50 | walterbender: ok no problem | |
| 14:50 | walterbender | icarito_web: all the other correspondence about the meeting was for the 16th :{ |
| 14:50 | icarito_web | raffael: sorry for the confusino |
| 14:51 | cjl | yes, icarito_web You shouldbe the one apologizing here :-) |
| 14:51 | icarito_web | cjl: well in the name of the board ;-) |
| 14:52 | cjl | No harm no foul, I say |
| 14:52 | walterbender | icarito_web: I already apologized on behalf of SLOBs -- it was my mistake entirely |
| 14:52 | icarito_web | walterbender: np... |
| 14:53 | we haven't heard from paraguay, colombia or uruguay yet | |
| 14:53 | do you have a contact for paraguay team, maybe I send a polite reminder? | |
| 14:53 | i can ping pilar and gabriel for colombia and uy - | |
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| 14:58 | alsroot | icarito_web: btw, you didn't share your code to gather usage statistics |
| 14:58 | icarito_web | alsroot: ah yes, sorry about that |
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| 15:06 | icarito_web | alsroot: doing it now, one moment |
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| 15:40 | icarito_web | alsroot: here it is http://git.sugarlabs.org/recol[…]ar-datos/mainline |
| 15:41 | alsroot: as I said its not very polished but it was good enough for the job at the time | |
| 15:41 | alsroot | icarito_web: thanks, will look |
| 15:41 | icarito_web | was designed for an older build 703 |
| 15:43 | CanoeBerry | I lost track of SLOBS meeting time/day, can anyone reconfirm? |
| 15:45 | alsroot | CanoeBerry: it will be tomorrow at 15 UTC, the reminder walterbender sent has wrong date (the right one was announced in team reports email) |
| 15:47 | cjb | CanoeBerry: hey, when're you back in town? |
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| 15:51 | cjl | Hey CanoeBerry howya doing, or should I just track you on your mom's blog? |
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| 16:06 | alsroot | icarito_web: dit I get it right, the program is for collecting logs? |
| 16:08 | icarito_web | alsroot: yes the program had two separate requirements, collect logs from .sugar/default/logs and also collect journal usage |
| 16:09 | the usage scenario is a surveyor visits schools and runs the program from USB | |
| 16:10 | the program may be installed in which case it runs from .xsession and collects logs in ~/.logger | |
| 16:11 | CanoeBerry | cjb & cjl: sorry i've been offline teaching at a mennonite school here in Canada -- yep that means they don't believe in computers but it's preparing me for Haiti next weeke nonetheless! |
| 16:12 | indeed, my mom's blog http://buildingaschool.org rambles on but it (and Nick Doiron's and others) will be more and more relevant to our Haiti school / projects in coming weeks :) | |
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| 16:15 | CanoeBerry | Nevertheless i handed out lots of OLPC postcards at the Mennonite school, so the young Mennonite kids here in Canada will be running a classical pen-pal exchange (possibly with a scanner / OCR in the mix as George Hunt is planning in our volunteer-coordinated Haiti school this fall..) |
| 16:16 | cjb: wish I knew when I was back in Boston, I miss soccer/basketball/biking/etc bad!! | |
| 16:24 | cjl | walterbender: I was curious to know if you had any comments on the Translation Team report? |
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| 16:29 | walterbender | cjl: nothing specific. |
| 16:29 | cjl: in general, I think you guys are being held up by some infrastructure issues | |
| 16:30 | cjl: I was speaking with Dogi about some of them yesterday | |
| 16:31 | cjl | Yeah, Ithink dirakx needs back up on backend stuff. I can restart apache by myself now, but I'm going to be slow about jumping headfirst into sysadminning. |
| 16:31 | Prima non nocere , first fo all do no harm Hippocrates | |
| 16:32 | It will definitely be need for the bracnching soon to come | |
| 16:33 | As bernie has made his distaste for all thing Django clear, Itry not to bother him with Poolte stuff. | |
| 16:33 | But he has been very helpful, (while holding his noseI suspect) | |
| 16:34 | He was very responsive in setting up the pootle-commits mailing list, whcih is oriving very useful to me. | |
| 16:36 | I guess in an ideal world we would recruit another infrastructure person (who had an interest in maintaining Poolte). But giving someone heavy-duty sysadmin access requires high trust levels, whcih are only gained over time. | |
| 16:41 | walterbender | cjl: +1 |
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| 17:27 | cjl | So walterbender I'm doing a top-to-bottom review of glibc locales and what I'm finding is not really confidence building. I'm writing it up to post to the glibc-bugs list, but I have concerns that the glibc master is extremely conservative and the answer given to people reporting problems is typically hash it out with the local maintainer. |
| 17:28 | What I am going to be doing is reporting hundreds of issues in a single comprehensive analysis and I'm not all that confident that they will take action on it. | |
| 17:29 | I jsut hope the enormity fo their current "badness" shakes them out of their inertia and rote procedure. | |
| 17:29 | It all started from looking at other locales as examles (templates) for Quechau. . . | |
| 17:31 | is getting the sense that some yak's need shaving anyway. | |
| 17:35 | walterbender | cjl: and also presumably related to the problems I was bumping into last week with Ruler. |
| 17:36 | cjl | Yeah, mising glibc locales need to be addressed. |
| 17:37 | But first there are yaks t obe shaved :-) | |
| 17:38 | alsroot | cjl: dirakx: are there problems w/ pootle administration? |
| 17:44 | cjl | alsroot: We need to reinvigorate te hpoolte-helper scripts that used to automagically regnerate POTs |
| 17:44 | Then we have to repare for and execute on branching (soon) | |
| 17:45 | We need to expand the addlangs.py script to cover more than Honey (in terms of creatign the sumlinks tha casue "commit" links to appear in Poolte for lang-admins. | |
| 17:46 | alsroot | cjl: I mean is dirakx busy w/ other stuff and dos not have enough time to work on pootle? I can rehash that stuff |
| 17:46 | cjl | And ther are some jsut odd-ball problems tha need investigation. |
| 17:46 | alsroot: I'll let dirakx speak for himself, but I do think he has been busy. | |
| 17:47 | Additional help would be welcome. I can lay out some specific issues that should be relatively easy to address (e.g. addlangs), but have a high impact | |
| 17:49 | http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/3054 | |
| 17:49 | alsroot | cjl: ok, lets wait for dirakx to know how much time he has to work on pootle, if not match I'll take a look |
| 17:50 | cjl | alsroot: That would be a great help. I'll try to line up some other backend tasks with clear tickets. |
| 17:51 | Some are simply time investments like 3054. Others will be trickier wit hiterative testijng. | |
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| 18:49 | alsroot | dirakx1: there is a backlog here for "dirakx" account |
| 18:50 | dirakx1 | alsroot: srry? |
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| 18:51 | alsroot | dirakx1: http://meeting.sugarlabs.org/s[…]1-09-15#i_2692224 |
| 18:54 | dirakx1 | alsroot: bottom line, yes no-time, to work on pootle atm. |
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| 18:55 | dirakx1 | alsroot: anyway, I'll try to give it more time. |
| 18:56 | alsroot | dirakx1: could you give me access to pootle VM, so I can a look to the current issues |
| 18:58 | dirakx1 | alsroot: sure send me your ssh-key |
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