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15:00 | garycmartin | gonzalo: manuq: Hi. Design Meeting time? |
15:00 | manuq | hi garycmartin! |
15:00 | garycmartin | Hi manuq, I take it Walter can't make it today. |
15:01 | manuq | garycmartin: yes |
15:01 | gonzalo | ok garycmartin |
15:01 | manuq | garycmartin: let's wait for gonzalo an we can start |
15:01 | oh here he is | |
15:02 | garycmartin | :) |
15:02 | #startmeeting | |
15:02 | meeting | Meeting started Mon Aug 29 15:02:10 2011 UTC. The chair is garycmartin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
15:02 | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #endmeeting | |
15:02 | garycmartin | So, lot's of nice icons I see landing in activities :) |
15:03 | erikos | is lurking too |
15:03 | garycmartin | Shall we start with Walter's cog badge issue? |
15:03 | erikos | wants to add tabs in browse onto the list |
15:03 | garycmartin | waves to erikos |
15:03 | manuq | erikos: hi! |
15:03 | erikos: good | |
15:03 | erikos | hi manuq and garycmartin |
15:04 | ohh, and we need to decide on the value of the alpha in the search | |
15:04 | manuq | garycmartin: ok let's start with the cog issue |
15:04 | erikos | and that one, yes ;p |
15:04 | sees that everything is in good hands ;p | |
15:04 | garycmartin | #topic Cog badge colouring issues for clones |
15:05 | gonzalo | garycmartin: i like the badge in gray and white |
15:06 | garycmartin | gonzalo: grey and white _all_the_time_ ? |
15:06 | gonzalo | yes |
15:07 | garycmartin | #info the cog badge looks bad when overlaid on an icon without user colours as white fill is transparent and the cog outline gets clobbered by the icon detail behind. |
15:08 | erikos | garycmartin, did you make sketches how to solve that? |
15:08 | garycmartin | gonzalo: I'm not so keen. I'd like it to pick up user colours when needed like the rest of the icon. |
15:08 | erikos | just seen one of Gary's mails |
15:09 | manuq | what are the implicances of changing all the icon to gray and white instead of gray and transparent? |
15:09 | garycmartin | erikos: yes I mocked up white on grey fill, and grey on white fill to see which was most clear (at the time I didn't quite follow the issue Walter was having working around the transparent implementation) |
15:10 | manuq: good question, was going to ask that myself :) | |
15:10 | manuq: One issue would be if we ever allow changing the desktop colour/pattern at some point in the future. | |
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15:11 | manuq | garycmartin: Walter already proposed that as a solution number 2 in his email |
15:12 | garycmartin | manuq: Another might be that some of the Journal palettes would have glaring white cogs in cloned activities (rather than the grey outlines on black). I'm not 100% sure of the code path for how these get added so it might be avoidable? |
15:14 | manuq: solution to no 2? Hmmm, I missed that | |
15:14 | manuq | garycmartin: oh and now I see Walter also sent a patch to use white insted of transparent |
15:15 | garycmartin | manuq: yes, white instead of transparent. But I'm not sure where else than the home favourite view that code gets called. |
15:15 | manuq | garycmartin: I also don't know |
15:17 | garycmartin | Hmmm, just looking at the 'Anything' filter icons in Journal, the icons are actually rather a mix Mainly black stroke with white fill. |
15:17 | erikos | neither |
15:17 | garycmartin, yes, this never has been done fully correctly :/ | |
15:18 | gonzalo | garycmartin: the icon is modified to add the cog |
15:19 | manuq | garycmartin: yes that's a thing to change |
15:19 | gonzalo | garycmartin: the favoritesview see a normal icon |
15:19 | garycmartin | Anyway, regarding the cog. I was just starting to add the cog shape as a mask over the original icon, avoiding the need for explicitly filling with a given colour. It'll just be an example to see if Walter can apply the badge using a mask (a little dance with the svg xml I think). |
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15:20 | garycmartin | That way it can use the fill/stroke entity colours, with no detail bleed through from the activity icon behind. |
15:21 | Does any one not like the idea of the cog picking up the entity colours like the rest of the icon? | |
15:22 | (if technically feasible) | |
15:22 | erikos | garycmartin, no, I am ok with the cog picking up the color |
15:22 | manuq | garycmartin: me too |
15:22 | erikos | if it is nicely visible |
15:22 | manuq | I think it is nice to get all the icon colored |
15:23 | gonzalo | i remember the other badges are in black and white.... |
15:23 | manuq | (no mixing) |
15:24 | gonzalo: all icons shoud be made in two colors, in the xvg they are marked as variables | |
15:24 | s/xvg/svg | |
15:24 | gonzalo | i know manuq.... |
15:25 | i think this badge is a additional information | |
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15:26 | garycmartin | My call against using a static grey white colour for the cog is that it adds visual noise, and almost looks like a function you might be able to click on. Now if indeed the badges were being applied live by Sugar (looking for some activity.info 'I have been hacked on'), and you could access the cog element in some way to invade a source editor or some developer type function, then I'd say making it UI grey (or black & white) would be a good move |
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15:27 | garycmartin | s/invade/invoke |
15:27 | gonzalo | garycmartin: i see your point |
15:28 | garycmartin: but the badges are not used in this way in sugar also | |
15:29 | garycmartin | gonzalo: fair point |
15:31 | manuq | ok |
15:32 | so I will test the patch Walter sent that changes transparent to white | |
15:33 | garycmartin | just looking at the badges as we currently ship them... |
15:35 | Only two we are using is grey outline star with white fill for favourite access points, and grey outline square with white fill and grey lock for secured APs. | |
15:35 | gonzalo | http://dev.laptop.org/~gonzalo/favorite-view.png |
15:37 | this ^ is the favorites view with the icons generated with walter patch | |
15:38 | garycmartin | just wishes we were not locking different colours (grey/white) into activity svgs. So gonzalo does you new home search effect look OK with them? How about when you hold the alt key for start new, or a combination of both? |
15:38 | gonzalo | garycmartin: with alt key, all is in the same gray |
15:39 | with search the alpha looks ok | |
15:39 | (for me) | |
15:39 | manuq | for me too |
15:40 | erikos: how do you find the alpha in the icons while searching in the home view? | |
15:40 | gonzalo | http://dev.laptop.org/~gonzalo[…]s-with-search.png |
15:40 | erikos | manuq, I would make it smaller |
15:41 | let me see the value I posted | |
15:41 | garycmartin | erikos: You wanted 0.15 I think |
15:41 | erikos | garycmartin, thanks, yes |
15:41 | garycmartin, I think it differentiates better | |
15:41 | garycmartin | vs. my 0.33 on an XO-1, and gonzalo 0.2 :) |
15:42 | erikos | garycmartin, the 0.33 was about the startup animation, right? |
15:42 | gonzalo | i think we must put a random value! |
15:42 | :) | |
15:42 | erikos | I see those differently |
15:42 | garycmartin | erikos: 0.33 I understand is _also_ now used in the startup animation. |
15:42 | gonzalo: random value on each boot! | |
15:43 | gonzalo | yes 0.33 is in the two |
15:43 | garycmartin: +1 | |
15:44 | erikos | garycmartin, right, I meant I would do: 0.33 in the bootup and 0.15 in the search |
15:44 | garycmartin | erikos: I suggested we split the difference as we are each looking at different screen hardware, but the patch had landed with 0.33 |
15:44 | erikos | garycmartin, do you have a recent build installed? |
15:45 | garycmartin | I have gonzalo's patch applied to the current olpc release on my XOs (0.92.2 I think?) |
15:45 | manuq | I like the current value |
15:46 | garycmartin | (actually gonzalo kindly send me the actual files to replace) |
15:47 | erikos: Perhaps we need a display gamma preference for you ;) | |
15:47 | gonzalo | i don't have a strong opinion, and is a "ad eternum" debatale topic :( |
15:47 | garycmartin | only half joking. |
15:48 | OK back to cog badges. | |
15:48 | erikos | ok |
15:50 | garycmartin | I think I am out voted, and we land nasty hardcoded colour values inside our lovely entity fill and stroked icons. And hope we don't cause too much mayhem when the white/grey icon shows up elsewhere in our UI (i.e. palettes). Actually gonzalo could you look at a few palettes where the activity + cog icon will show up? |
15:52 | gonzalo | http://dev.laptop.org/~gonzalo/palette.png |
15:52 | garycmartin | gonzalo: OK that looks good, better than I expected. How about in the Journal 'About' filter? |
15:53 | gonzalo | http://dev.laptop.org/~gonzalo[…]-view-palette.png |
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15:54 | gonzalo | http://dev.laptop.org/~gonzalo/detail-view.png |
15:55 | garycmartin: this ^ ? | |
15:56 | garycmartin | gonzalo: No, at the top of the Journal there is a drop down 'Anything' activity filter, next to the star filte in the toolbar. |
15:58 | gonzalo | http://dev.laptop.org/~gonzalo/journal-filter.png |
15:58 | manuq | looks good! |
15:58 | garycmartin | gonzalo: thanks. |
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16:00 | garycmartin | gonzalo: OK, so the one case that is not too hot is in small when the activity icon is white and on a black palette background. The grey around the cog makes it look like a fuzzy blob rather than a sharp cog shape. Most noticeable in your http://dev.laptop.org/~gonzalo[…]-view-palette.png shot for the Empezar nuevo item. |
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16:02 | manuq | garycmartin: do you think we may remove the stroke and just use the cog fill? |
16:02 | gonzalo | garycmartin: i think is a problem of scaling not of color |
16:02 | erikos | and it is the same gray as the emblem in the neigborhood view, right? |
16:03 | gonzalo | people, i need finish now :( |
16:03 | see you later | |
16:03 | garycmartin | manuq: No, the white cog teeth will just disappear into the background icon details, especially noticeable in an icon like Words. |
16:03 | gonzalo: bye! | |
16:03 | manuq | garycmartin: you are right |
16:04 | gonzalo: good bye, see you later | |
16:04 | garycmartin | Well shall we just land it as it seeing an grey and white works in the majority of cases? |
16:04 | (land it as it) | |
16:04 | manuq | garycmartin: +1 |
16:05 | garycmartin | erikos: ? |
16:06 | erikos | garycmartin, well, it has landed already ;p |
16:06 | garycmartin, I mean the colored version | |
16:06 | garycmartin | erikos: ;) |
16:06 | erikos | garycmartin, but yes, is fine with me to change it to white and grey |
16:06 | garycmartin, originally, I actually thought that as being the best option | |
16:07 | garycmartin, so fine with me, just check back with walter I guess, to make sure | |
16:07 | tabs... | |
16:07 | manuq | ok, next topic, browser's tabs? |
16:07 | garycmartin | erikos: so we have currently landed the coloured version, that is transparent when the icon is grey + none. |
16:08 | sure | |
16:08 | #topic Browser tabs | |
16:08 | erikos | garycmartin, yes, in the latest build is the colored version with transparent when the icon is grey + none. |
16:08 | garycmartin | erikos: thanks, understood. |
16:08 | manuq | re tabs: I did a list of the things erikos required in his email |
16:09 | * sugarize close button | |
16:09 | * style the coloring of the tabs | |
16:09 | * the text of the tabs do not elipsize | |
16:09 | * pages with no title show small, inclickable | |
16:10 | those are the issues, erikos? | |
16:10 | garycmartin | manuq: Also how we create a new tab. |
16:10 | erikos | garycmartin, yes - good point |
16:10 | manuq | garycmartin: yes |
16:10 | silbe | we already have a button to create a new tab |
16:11 | garycmartin | Do we use a toolbar icon (as we do currently), or loose vertical space and always show the tab strip with a + icon in it. |
16:11 | silbe | it's just disabled for versions of cairo that we think are broken (i.e. cause crashes) |
16:11 | erikos | silbe, but it takes space and I think like firefox is doing works better |
16:11 | manuq | erikos: +1 |
16:11 | garycmartin | erikos: we have less space than regular desktops? |
16:12 | Especially those new non XO laptops at 800x480! | |
16:12 | erikos | garycmartin, the url entry is very small atm |
16:13 | garycmartin | erikos: agreed, very small. |
16:13 | erikos | garycmartin, that is why moving the reload/stop button to the entry itself was already a win |
16:13 | garycmartin, and I think another button removed would be great | |
16:14 | garycmartin | erikos: Yes another button removed would be nice... |
16:14 | silbe | erikos: BTW, have you tested the reload/stop change with a touch screen? (I can't because Browse doesn't work on my XO-1.75, some xulrunner libs issue). |
16:14 | erikos | silbe, I have no touch screen |
16:14 | manuq | either |
16:15 | woul like to see touchscreen in a xo | |
16:15 | silbe | erikos: then you should get one :-| |
16:15 | erikos | in any case, lets stop on topic: tabs |
16:16 | s/stop/stay | |
16:16 | garycmartin | just noticed in the current latest olpc release that the tabs are disabled (I assume due to cairo issue). |
16:16 | erikos | so I would do: |
16:16 | - have always one tab open | |
16:17 | - at a second small tab that has a '+' button | |
16:17 | - where you could add another tab | |
16:17 | cjb | garycmartin: hey, did you ever send me an address for a touchscreen machine? |
16:17 | erikos | - the tab has a 'x' for closing |
16:17 | garycmartin | cjb: yea, same day we chatted last, did I get spam filtered? |
16:18 | manuq | erikos: +1 for me, it would be a great improvement |
16:18 | garycmartin | cjb: was hoping to take it to the Paris Camp if it's here in time. |
16:20 | erikos: All sounds good. I just want us to be sure that we are 'happy' to permanently loose some vertical space. | |
16:20 | erikos | garycmartin, sure, I think that is what we have to live with |
16:20 | manuq | erikos: the plus icon will need to fit on the current tab's height |
16:20 | cjb | garycmartin: Seems like it, though I thought I remembered seeing it in my inbox. :/ Mind resending? |
16:20 | erikos | garycmartin, if we get tabs in, let's expose them |
16:21 | cjb | We'll ship it 2/3-day, so it'll be there in time. |
16:21 | erikos | garycmartin, or remove the feature all together |
16:21 | cjb, me too? | |
16:21 | cjb | erikos: if we send one to you today, shall I use the after-Sep-1 address? |
16:21 | hm, it might first try to be delivered on the day before | |
16:21 | manuq | wants touchscreen also :P |
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16:22 | garycmartin | erikos: FWIW I think Apple are also going this route with the next version of iOS5 Safari (dropping the Opera like thumb view for tab view, though they may well have a 'show tabs by default' preference hidden in Settings for folks wanting a simple experience). |
16:22 | cjb | garycmartin: ah! I found it |
16:22 | garycmartin: look like you e-mailed martin instead and he forwarded it | |
16:22 | silbe | erikos: outside the XO universe "wide-screen" is rather popular, so trading horizontal for vertical space isn't necessarily a good thing |
16:23 | garycmartin | cjb: arrgh! I thought it had quite a long list of cc's to make sure I had everyone covered :) |
16:23 | erikos | silbe, but we are not outside of the Xo atm |
16:23 | manuq | erikos: what about putting the star/favourite icon inside the url entry, on the left? |
16:23 | erikos | cjb, let me think what makes more sense |
16:24 | cjb | erikos: I could just ask Wad to wait two days and then send it to the new address |
16:25 | silbe | erikos: we certainly are. Sugar is shipped by several mainstream distros and there's also SoaS. |
16:25 | cjb | or I could send two to Gary and he could give it to you in Paris ;-) |
16:25 | erikos | cjb, yeah, that might be best, I am definitely in the new house after saturday |
16:25 | cjb, so maybe just send it off friday, or next monday | |
16:25 | cjb, or that ;p | |
16:25 | cjb | erikos: ok, please remind me on fri/mon |
16:26 | erikos | cjb, ok, great will do, thanks |
16:26 | silbe, but it is not our main target | |
16:27 | garycmartin | cjb: While I think about it, I don't have access to a serial connected to un-brick, I'd mentioned that to Martin (he was going to include on I think), but not sure if I mentioned it in my follow up email. |
16:27 | erikos | manuq, yes, thought about that myself, already |
16:27 | silbe | erikos: (snide reply skipped - let's just say I disagree we shouldn't worry about anything other than XO) |
16:28 | erikos | silbe, I did not say we shouldn't worry |
16:28 | silbe, terminal has tabs, too for example | |
16:29 | silbe | erikos: then what did you say? I seem to have misunderstood you. |
16:29 | erikos | silbe, just skip it |
16:29 | garycmartin | erikos: manuq: I see the favourite star in Browse as quite an important feature, as it is the place to drive the collaboration feature for sharing pages between children doing research. |
16:30 | silbe | erikos: skip what? |
16:30 | manuq | garycmartin: true |
16:31 | garycmartin: do you think that if we put the star inside the url entry, it will be less accesible? | |
16:31 | garycmartin | manuq: yes, and less noticeable, we also loose the help hint (I think?) |
16:32 | erikos | silbe, I just don't see the argument why I should not put a tab in browse because there are wide screen users that might have an issue with that |
16:32 | silbe, and I just wanted to skip that discussion in order to advance | |
16:32 | manuq | garycmartin: on the other hand, it adds the meaning that you are starring that url |
16:33 | silbe | erikos: ok, got it now. |
16:33 | erikos | garycmartin, manuq other ideas than having the tab visible by default? |
16:34 | garycmartin | erikos: nothing leaps to mind :( |
16:34 | manuq | erikos: I like tabs always visible even if there is just one, because the activity feels the same always |
16:34 | erikos | garycmartin, re safari: they hide the tabs feature, yes |
16:34 | manuq, yeah, there is some truth to that | |
16:35 | and actually, we do not loose space compared to old toolbars, right? | |
16:35 | (old-style toolbars) | |
16:35 | manuq | right |
16:36 | garycmartin | erikos: No current Safari always shows one tab by default (likely also why iOS5 will go the same way). |
16:36 | erikos | garycmartin, ahh, ok, I might have an old version then |
16:37 | I posted as well the example what is done on other devices os'es | |
16:37 | with several windows | |
16:37 | (which we could see as running several browse instances) | |
16:38 | garycmartin | I think always showing a tab is the only obvious way forward just now. |
16:38 | erikos | but to do that smoothly in Sugar would be rather complicated, imho |
16:39 | silbe | erikos: where? I only see the firefox screenshot on http://lists.sugarlabs.org/arc[…]ugust/032859.html |
16:39 | erikos | silbe, no screenshot, only describing |
16:39 | silbe | ah, ok |
16:39 | manuq | erikos: about the elipsize, Terminal does that well in its tabs, right? |
16:40 | silbe | #link http://lists.sugarlabs.org/arc[…]ugust/032862.html description of how other browsers handle tabs |
16:41 | erikos | manuq, hmmm, not sure, but yes we could check |
16:41 | has only 5 mins left | |
16:42 | I can look at the code and see what is doable | |
16:42 | manuq | erikos: take me into account if you need the + and x icons for tabs |
16:43 | garycmartin | erikos: I guess it's really about what is the common workflow we expect from our users. We could place the + tab button in the View secondary toolbar next to the fullscreen button and the show/hide bookmarks bar (oooh, anyone notice it doesn't have a help hint). |
16:43 | erikos | manuq, great - thanks |
16:44 | garycmartin | are we agreed on always showing at least one tab at the cost of some vertical space? |
16:44 | erikos | garycmartin, hmm, do you think people will find that? |
16:44 | garycmartin | erikos: no I don't... |
16:44 | erikos | heh |
16:45 | one tab always sounds fine to me (as the best solution for now) | |
16:45 | manuq | +1 |
16:45 | garycmartin | +1 |
16:45 | erikos | and the other points would be, the '+' tab right |
16:45 | and the 'x' for each tab | |
16:46 | manuq | +1 for me on both '+' and 'x' |
16:46 | erikos | and ellipse to have a standard size per tab |
16:46 | garycmartin | erikos: I'd be happy with the + next to the last tab so it is more closely related (and far from the Stop icon). |
16:47 | erikos | garycmartin, right, that is what i meant |
16:47 | garycmartin | +1 for the 'x' to close tabs |
16:47 | erikos | garycmartin, so basically like in firefox |
16:47 | (or now safari) | |
16:48 | garycmartin | erikos: Safari put's it on the far right edge of the screen, but I don't really ever use it (I always option click URLs to get new tabs). |
16:48 | erikos | garycmartin, ok |
16:48 | garycmartin, I think right next to the last tab works nicely | |
16:48 | garycmartin | erikos: But Apple don't have there close icon over on the right just above it ;-) |
16:49 | erikos | hehe |
16:50 | ok, so sounds we have agreement to get things done | |
16:50 | other questions will come later during the work I guess | |
16:50 | garycmartin | #agreed always show at least one tab, understanding that it is at the cost of some vertical space vs. more space for the URL location input |
16:50 | erikos | thanks for all the feedback! |
16:50 | has to run | |
16:50 | garycmartin | erikos: thanks for joining us! |
16:51 | manuq | garycmartin: I have updated the toolbars catalog and did some notes about it |
16:52 | garycmartin | manuq: thanks, yes I've had a quick skim through |
16:53 | manuq | garycmartin: how do you find the tasks here: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Manuq/11.3.0#Tasks ? |
16:53 | garycmartin | looks |
16:55 | cjl | manuq: TamTamSuite has been rolled out with imporved L10n |
16:55 | manuq | cjl: yes that's old |
16:55 | need to update that | |
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16:56 | garycmartin | manuq: what were you thinking for the + FotoToon badges? |
16:56 | manuq | garycmartin: I think we should use the simple plus that appears in other parts of Sugar |
16:57 | garycmartin | manuq: OK |
16:57 | manuq | garycmartin: only stroke of 3.5 pixels |
16:58 | also, what do you think about removing the space between the activity button and other tools in Implode? | |
17:00 | garycmartin | manuq: +1 on removing the space between the activity button and other tools in Implode, should all be left aligned (except Help and Stop) |
17:00 | manuq | good |
17:01 | garycmartin | manuq: didn't realise Log and Jukebox had lost their activity titles! |
17:01 | manuq | they don't have the subtoolbar |
17:01 | garycmartin: was any consensus about that? | |
17:02 | garycmartin | Perhaps some confusion about the 'don't create journal entries for some things' (I am of the opinion everything should create Journal entries). |
17:02 | manuq | garycmartin: ok I will contact the maintainers and see if I can add the activity toolbars back |
17:03 | garycmartin | +1 That would be great. |
17:03 | manuq | good |
17:04 | garycmartin | manuq: were folks in agreement that Measure should be using the microphone icon rather than the lips icon? |
17:04 | manuq | garycmartin: and I will use the new journal badge in the export icons for labyrinth |
17:04 | garycmartin: I didn't attend a discussion for that | |
17:05 | garycmartin | manuq: Labyrinth, fab thanks (BTW who is the maintainer at the moment, used to be me) |
17:06 | manuq: lips are being used in a couple of cases for text to speech, rather than sound input device, I think was the argument. | |
17:06 | manuq | garycmartin: I see |
17:07 | garycmartin: last commit for Labyrinth from a humane (not pootle) is from Jorge Saldivar | |
17:07 | garycmartin | manuq: thanks |
17:07 | manuq | garycmartin: but I don't know if he is the maintainer |
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17:08 | manuq | garycmartin: thanks for your feedback in my notes |
17:08 | garycmartin | manuq: I know Bernie got me to hand it over to someone because he wanted to rush a feature through for a deployment (that I was not 100% behind), but I can't remember who it was ;-) |
17:09 | manuq | garycmartin: :-) |
17:09 | garycmartin | manuq: It's gonzalo working on the Browse save to journal icons? |
17:09 | manuq | garycmartin: anything else you want to discuss? |
17:09 | garycmartin: I don't know | |
17:09 | garycmartin: he was working on the ones for Write | |
17:10 | garycmartin | manuq: The silly thing is that I believe the edu ministry decided not to officially use it any way and they went with burning the disk/cpu/memory by installing a VM Java and using a non Sugarized Java app. Oh well :) |
17:10 | manuq | garycmartin: woops!! |
17:11 | garycmartin | manuq: Write, oh yes sorry. Have the screen shot here. |
17:12 | manuq | garycmartin: the file extensions look very small on the XO screen |
17:12 | garycmartin: but there is the tooltip with the same text | |
17:12 | garycmartin | manuq: How much do you hate HTM as an abbreviation for HTML. I always used to really offend me when I used to see it (a Microsoft 8.3 naming thing I think)? |
17:13 | s/I/it | |
17:13 | manuq | garycmartin: he he, I don't like it also |
17:14 | garycmartin | manuq: Will you try the same PDF, PNG lettering for the new Labyrinth icons? |
17:14 | manuq | garycmartin: yes I was going to follow that design |
17:15 | althrough it doesn't make me very happy | |
17:15 | garycmartin | (that is why I was asking, as we have similar acronym named file types else where we need to show in other places) |
17:17 | manuq | garycmartin: sorry I'm running out of time |
17:18 | garycmartin | manuq: Looking at the icons I did for Labyrinth, I'm not sure gonzalo's icon text is _that_ much smaller. A little, but not a huge amount. Perhaps some size tweaking to maximises the space for 3 characters before we use it in other places? |
17:19 | manuq: Many thanks for the meeting today, think we've got through a reasonable amount. | |
17:19 | #endmeeting | |
17:19 | meeting | Meeting ended Mon Aug 29 17:19:36 2011 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. (v 0.1.4) |
17:19 | Minutes: http://meeting.sugarlabs.org/s[…]-29T15:02:10.html | |
17:19 | Log: http://meeting.sugarlabs.org/s[…]11-08-29T15:02:10 | |
17:19 | manuq | thanks garycmartin! |
17:20 | garycmartin | Enjoy the rest of your day :) |
17:20 | manuq | garycmartin: OK, I will play with the text on the icons before including in other places |
17:20 | garycmartin: I've seen your 3D characters some time ago | |
17:20 | garycmartin | manuq: lol :) |
17:21 | manuq | garycmartin: I should talk you about my animation project another day |
17:21 | :) | |
17:21 | have a nice day! | |
17:21 | garycmartin | manuq: That work (web site) is pretty old, I feel even older :) |
17:21 | manuq: Catch you later! | |
17:22 | manuq | garycmartin: see you later, bye! |
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