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| Time | Nick | Message |
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| 00:12 | dirakx1 | ready for the meeting ;) m_anish |
| 00:13 | m_anish | dirakx1, /me ready, icaritox bernie tch ? |
| 00:14 | icaritox | m_anish, dirakx1 and I talked earlier |
| 00:14 | m_anish | icaritox, ah. so you guys are already set activity wise :P ? |
| 00:15 | dirakx1 | m_anish: yep. all set now. |
| 00:15 | icaritox | wrt coordinating our tasks this week pretty much unless you have some suggestions |
| 00:15 | :-) | |
| 00:16 | m_anish | icaritox, dirakx1 nope, you've been doing great! just wanted to touch base :-) |
| 00:17 | dirakx1 | m_anish: thx, btw a q, what are your thoughts about updating xulrunner for our builds..?. |
| 00:17 | re- browse stuff. | |
| 00:17 | m_anish | dirakx1, how much work is it? |
| 00:17 | dirakx1, if it has the potential to break other stuff, i'd stay away from it | |
| 00:20 | bernie, btw http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/wiki/Dextrose2 needs fixing :-) | |
| 00:24 | dirakx1 | dirakx I have to test potential breaks, but afaik it only afects browse. |
| 00:25 | m_anish | dirakx1, ok, I can help with testing as well, if needed :) |
| 00:28 | dirakx1 | m_anish: hmm btw this new xulrunner is in sweets running on sugar 0.88 and sugar 0.92 w/o any problems afaik. |
| 00:30 | m_anish | btw, the priority field in trac doesn't seem to understand the 'major, minor, trivial, normal, blocker' fields very well (in terms of sorting in that order) |
| 00:31 | bernie, ^ | |
| 00:34 | bernie | m_anish: oops, here i am |
| 00:34 | m_anish: it's because i removed the seeta_dev field | |
| 00:34 | m_anish: (which was useless clutter) | |
| 00:34 | m_anish | tch, ping :) |
| 00:34 | bernie, ok | |
| 00:35 | bernie | m_anish: fixed |
| 00:35 | m_anish | bernie, great! |
| 00:36 | bernie | m_anish: the Dextrose page also includes bugs for Dextrose3? I guess so |
| 00:36 | m_anish: are we planning to have a new DX2 release soonish? | |
| 00:37 | m_anish | bernie, nope, there might be one for 1.5 if the browse issue is fixed and tested in time, |
| 00:37 | bernie | aa: you should do #endmeeting |
| 00:37 | m_anish | bernie, mostly it'll just be about releasing updates |
| 00:38 | bernie | m_anish: sure, this is what i'd expect in a good stabilization branch :-) |
| 00:38 | m_anish | bernie, or are you talking abt an intl release ? (that might be considered development) |
| 00:38 | bernie | m_anish: have you been at the schools recently? |
| 00:38 | m_anish: yes, i was thinking about the intl release, which is our ongoing "ad campaign" for dextrose :-) | |
| 00:39 | m_anish | bernie, sadly, no :/ (not for the last 2-3 weeks) |
| 00:39 | bernie, i'll be going once during this week | |
| 00:39 | bernie, makes sense :) | |
| 00:39 | bernie | m_anish: i don't know if there's still the opportunity, but when i was there i'd often sleep at fernando's place or in a nearby house so i could stay 2 or 3 days in a row |
| 00:40 | m_anish: when we go there by car, there's never time to do anything | |
| 00:41 | m_anish | bernie, yah, that's gonna be difficult with the time i have left though, i'll see if i can stay overnight for one night |
| 00:41 | bernie | m_anish: understandable... |
| 00:41 | m_anish: how are we gonna spend our time in montevideo? | |
| 00:42 | m_anish: there will be some time for hacking, and we could use it to get started on the XS, or to give DX3 a big push forward... | |
| 00:42 | m_anish: or to do testing sessions with people from ceibaljam... | |
| 00:43 | m_anish | bernie, +1! |
| 00:43 | bernie | m_anish: we should come to montevideo with the latest and greatest DX2 release on a usb stick, minimum.... and give it to anyone who would like to try it out |
| 00:43 | m_anish | without gnome ;) |
| 00:45 | bernie, i'll merge some of tch's recent mf-updater enhancements (on dextrose-ml), and have to make an updates release locally here as well | |
| 00:45 | bernie, that'll sync nicely with another dextrose-2 intl release | |
| 00:45 | tch, ^ | |
| 00:47 | tch | here |
| 00:47 | just got back from running, sry | |
| 00:48 | m_anish | bernie, me+ tch earlier went through http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/quer[…]one&keywords=~dx2 , so we gotta find new/high priority existing issues |
| 00:48 | bernie | tch: yeah, i've seen your patches fly by |
| 00:49 | m_anish: wow, i can't believe we're out of high priority things to work on :-) | |
| 00:49 | tch | :) |
| 00:50 | bernie | tch: one personal favorite is: add support for joining a hidden wifi network |
| 00:50 | tch: my home has it and i need to kill networkmanager in order to join | |
| 00:50 | tch | bernie: +1, I also want to do it, becasue yama and .au olpc deployment is asking for it :) |
| 00:51 | bernie | tch: another thing i'd like to add to networking is the proxy configuration from olpc-au |
| 00:51 | tch: finally, something hard to do but highly rewarding would be doing the registration to the XS automatically, in the background | |
| 00:51 | tch | bernie: sure, guess we can put those at the dx3 TODO :) |
| 00:51 | bernie: auto-registration is already on dx3 TODO | |
| 00:52 | bernie | tch: sure... probably not dx2 material. |
| 00:52 | m_anish: how about this? did anyone speak to pgf? http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/2617 | |
| 00:52 | tch | bernie: everything that is not stabilization or minior enhancement should be left for dx3 |
| 00:53 | bernie | tch: ah, i've seen the comment on #2617... it should be very easy to set the module option, you don't need a script. just drop a file in /etc/modprobe.d |
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| 00:53 | bernie | tch: there should *already* be a file for libertas... created by olpc-utils |
| 00:53 | tch | bernie: I already did that |
| 00:54 | bernie | tch: ah kwel... then the ticket is done? |
| 00:54 | tch | bernie: but pgf told me that is not included in latest kernel yet |
| 00:54 | bernie | tch: ah |
| 00:54 | tch | bernie: we do have time to "play" with kernel stuff for dx3 but i don't think is sane for dx2 anymore |
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| 00:55 | bernie | tch: ok you're right |
| 00:55 | tch: there are 3 hard bugs that we may want to spend some time on: | |
| 00:55 | (these are all very hard) | |
| 00:56 | 1. sometimes Browse crashes when we close a tab. suggested debug strategy: put a gdb on the process while it's running, then install debuginfos for the library where it stops | |
| 00:57 | tch | still crashes? |
| 00:57 | bernie | 2. sometimes sugar crashes in the pythin garbage collector, usually after sending a dbus message. recommened debug strategy: recompile the python rpm with a lot of debug stuff turned on, then download a big file to trigger the bug |
| 00:57 | tch: apparently Browse crashes a little in fedora 11, and a lot in later releases | |
| 00:58 | tch | taking notes~ |
| 00:58 | bernie | 3. sometimes menus appear completely black. seems like a bug in gtk, but it happens across many versions of fedora... so maybe it's a bug in the theme |
| 00:59 | suggested strategy: dunno. ideally, we'd want to break into the python interpreter and look into the palette object with introspection... but how could we do this? | |
| 01:00 | it's also hard to trigger | |
| 01:00 | There are bugs in trac for all 1, 2 and 3. | |
| 01:00 | ok, this was my bug 3: http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/2184 | |
| 01:01 | and this was bug 2: http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/2155 | |
| 01:01 | m_anish | bernie, tch this one's still open ? http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/2023 ... i guess there would be more similar pain points |
| 01:01 | bernie, tch http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/2367 ? | |
| 01:01 | bernie, tch hey, can we start assigning dx2/3 keywords to them on trac :P | |
| 01:01 | bernie | and bug 1, the hardest, is this: http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/2064 |
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| 01:02 | bernie | ah, we may want to recompile python *WITHOUT* debug instead of with more debug... it won't help debug the issue, but it might at least make it go away for the poor users. |
| 01:02 | because python blows up in an assert() | |
| 01:02 | apparently fedora 14 already compiles python with asserts disabled. | |
| 01:02 | m_anish | bernie, yep +1! |
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| 01:03 | bernie | m_anish: #2023 is still present, as far as I know. if you go to Bar Asuncion in caacupe, you can see it for yourself |
| 01:03 | m_anish: the essid is "Asunción" | |
| 01:04 | m_anish | bernie, fwiw , i've seen all three of the issues you mentioned in recent dx builds as well (not very sure abt 1) |
| 01:04 | bernie, browse crashes without fail everytime if you try to open maps.google.com | |
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| 01:04 | tch | if those bugs are present in 2, they are definitely present in 1 |
| 01:04 | bernie | m_anish: for #2367, i think fgrose might be right. let's try his recommended timeouts... |
| 01:05 | m_anish: nice, this will help us find the bug | |
| 01:05 | m_anish: ah, without even trying to debug, i'd recommend trying to build the latest xulrunner rpm before fedora switched to firefox 4. | |
| 01:06 | m_anish: it should still build fine on fedora 11... you can grab it from the updates repository of fedora 14, i think. | |
| 01:07 | m_anish | bernie, ok, i think dirakx1 is working on browse|xulrunner issues |
| 01:08 | tch | for some reason i suspect #2184 could also be a palette logic bug, like destroying the palette object before time.. not sure though I could try debugging it with some logs |
| 01:09 | dirakx1 | it's on F14 ;). |
| 01:09 | m_anish | bernie, also, for me this is part of a bigger 'real-world' problem, browse can just get too-slow, and reduce everything else to a crawl (on an XO1) |
| 01:09 | bernie | tch: do we cache them? i thought we did |
| 01:09 | tch | bernie: not sure, |
| 01:09 | bernie | tch: this would explain why the bug is persistent on the same menu once it happens |
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| 01:10 | bernie | tch: it might be a race condition: maybe we forget to remove a timer in some cancellation path... |
| 01:10 | m_anish | (next in queue;-) ) tch, bernie, dirakx1 here's another http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/2659 |
| 01:10 | tch | bernie: maybe we can ask silbe or alsroot for ideas |
| 01:11 | bernie | tch: yeah, they're always good at finding these hard-core bugs ;-) |
| 01:11 | tch | m_anish, dirakx, bernie: is there any "clear cache" option in browse? |
| 01:11 | s/clear/clean | |
| 01:11 | bernie | m_anish, tch: i thought xulrunner was being configured to use only 50MB of cache or so... so there might be a bug there |
| 01:12 | m_anish | tch, not as far as i know |
| 01:12 | dirakx1 | afaik nop. |
| 01:12 | tch: | |
| 01:12 | m_anish | bernie, i think me and tch saw this issue in one computer, the cache was occupying 400MB, we didn't check any other machinre re this specific issue |
| 01:12 | bernie | tch: no option in browse, but if it were for me, it should be 100% transparent for users. just work. |
| 01:13 | m_anish | bernie, +1 |
| 01:13 | bernie | m_anish: it would help to make a copy on a usb stick when you see these horrible things |
| 01:13 | dirakx1 | bernie: how is xulrunner configured to run only that cache MB space ?. |
| 01:13 | tch | how xulrunner handles it currently? |
| 01:13 | bernie | m_anish: i have collected a number of broken journals, for example. |
| 01:13 | tch | haha, |
| 01:14 | bernie | dirakx1: i think it's done somewhere in the prefs.js file |
| 01:14 | tch: the disk cache should be LRU, with a limit on the size. | |
| 01:14 | dirakx1 | bernie: hmm /me should dig on the js part of browse. |
| 01:14 | bernie | tch, dirakx1, m_anish: ah, i bet I know what could make it grow to 400MB! Try downloading a huge video :-) |
| 01:15 | m_anish | bernie, or lots of huge videos or songs :P |
| 01:15 | tch | i am pretty sure that was the case |
| 01:15 | bernie | bets 1 bitcoin that xulrunner cannot download a file without going through the cache first. |
| 01:15 | dirakx1 | but then it should warn the user somehow.. |
| 01:16 | bernie | dirakx1: maybe i'm wrong... in sugar files are downloaded directly into the journal. you should try and see what happens during a download. where the file is being stored. |
| 01:17 | dirakx1 | bernie: will do, I'm not sure how the journal - browse interaction works exactly. |
| 01:17 | m_anish | tch, bernie, here's another related issue that i'll just repeat verbatim (as pacita told me), since we have 1GB space (total) on the XO and kids want to have big videos _and_ their work... they end up deleting their work to make space for the videos |
| 01:19 | tch | oh my (and probably someone else) cloud journal device idea ;);) |
| 01:19 | dirakx1 | so kids prefer fun to work. ;) |
| 01:19 | tch: +1. | |
| 01:19 | tch: but then there is the privacy issue. | |
| 01:20 | m_anish | tch, something to talk on during eduJAM i guess |
| 01:20 | tch | well, i think is different is the service is hosted at the XS |
| 01:20 | s/t is t/t if t | |
| 01:20 | mchua is now known as mchua_afk | |
| 01:21 | dirakx1 | I thought there was a backup journal to xs service.. |
| 01:21 | tch | it would be an interesting approach for XS backup too |
| 01:21 | there is | |
| 01:22 | dirakx1 | tch: can it be configured somehow to erase al ready backed up entries ?. |
| 01:22 | talks from ignorance. | |
| 01:22 | aa | bernie: I was planning on doing #endmeeting when I got back |
| 01:22 | bernie: sorry about that... | |
| 01:23 | tch | dirakx: well, that is easy, but the problem we face is that the current restore script replaces everything with the backup content, so is not very friendly yet |
| 01:23 | meeting | <aa-es> #endmeeting |
| 01:24 | dirakx1 | tch: no worries i think this should be addressed in uy. could be ot for this meeting. |
| 01:24 | tch | :) |
| 01:24 | id vote for the """clould""" journal idea haha | |
| 01:24 | m_anish | aa, didn't think it worked :) |
| 01:24 | dirakx1 | haha. /me remembers silbe's idea about a git backend for the journal. |
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| 01:25 | christianmarcsch | hi jt |
| 01:25 | jtmengel | hi all |
| 01:25 | christianmarcsch | hi! |
| 01:25 | m_anish | bernie, remember any more interesting bugs offhand ;) ? |
| 01:25 | aa | m_anish: I guess it doesnt, the meeting logs seem to be broken |
| 01:25 | :( | |
| 01:25 | jtmengel | sorry for the delay - IRC client troubles |
| 01:26 | christianmarcsch | jtmengel: no problem, i was late too |
| 01:26 | JT_4sugar: hi! | |
| 01:26 | jtmengel: is mike there? | |
| 01:26 | m_anish | aa, can you try from the sugar-meeting (english) channel? |
| 01:26 | jtmengel | christianmarcsch, just got word from Mike, he's en route |
| 01:26 | christianmarcsch | jtmengel: sounds good |
| 01:27 | JT_4sugar | christianmarcsch, Hi I am on Skype call with Fargo and New York pilot will just be surveying |
| 01:27 | christianmarcsch | JT_4sugar: sounds great, thanks |
| 01:27 | aa | m_anish: oh, found them! http://meeting.sugarlabs.org/s[…]ing-es/2011-04-25 the links in the meeting summary are broken though |
| 01:28 | christianmarcsch | jtmengel: so mainly this is for you and mike to give us an update on how things are going with the content production, and to see how we can help |
| 01:28 | tch | m_anish, bernie, dirakx1: anything else? :0 |
| 01:28 | christianmarcsch | jtmengel: i sent out a next-steps email after our last chat--did everything make sense? |
| 01:28 | m_anish | browsing thru trac ;) |
| 01:30 | dirakx1, tch, bernie i guess we're good for now :) | |
| 01:30 | dirakx1 | ok ;) |
| 01:30 | thanks all. | |
| 01:30 | m_anish | will test-drive silbe's awesome dx3 build/1.5 today and hopefully open lots of bugs :))) |
| 01:31 | dirakx1, tch bernie thanks :) | |
| 01:32 | christianmarcsch | jtmengel: still there? :) |
| 01:32 | jtmengel | shall we wait for Mike to start or shall we start and pass him the log? |
| 01:33 | christianmarcsch | jtmengel: i guess we should get started |
| 01:33 | jtmengel: not sure when he will be arriving | |
| 01:34 | jtmengel | as content creation has gone, I took tutorial creation and Mike has taken up the task of gathering media from sugar deployments, etc |
| 01:34 | christianmarcsch | jtmengel: that's great |
| 01:34 | jtmengel: anything there that you can share yet? | |
| 01:34 | jtmengel | I have moved into creating 3 plans of attack for how I could create video / slideshow (image reliant) tutorials |
| 01:36 | nothing too illustrative - I added a basic outline to the bottom of the GoogleDoc we used for the other outlines and beyond that have been lurking in IRC channels and striking up conversations with people to get my bearings on this section of the proj | |
| 01:36 | christianmarcsch | jtmengel: could you send me the link again to the google doc? |
| 01:37 | jtmengel | (things like, if we want to include tutorials on how to add new audio tracks, what software to create a sort of 'meta' tutorial for) |
| 01:37 | sure, pulling it up now | |
| 01:38 | full URL https://spreadsheets.google.co[…]&authkey=COeo2cQP | |
| 01:38 | christianmarcsch | jtmengel: thx, looking now |
| 01:38 | jtmengel | you'll see in the bottom basically my pro's cons and this led my digging around |
| 01:39 | I haven't really committed to making videos yet because we had 3 good directions to go | |
| 01:40 | christianmarcsch | jtmengel: yes, i think that's great. the slideshow format may also be good. though screencasts can actually be fairly economical to put together |
| 01:40 | jtmengel: but all three directions sound good. | |
| 01:40 | jtmengel | so at this stage (where we need content) do you have a preference? |
| 01:40 | on which to make first :D | |
| 01:41 | christianmarcsch | jtmengel: i guess i might lean towards the video |
| 01:41 | jtmengel: either voice over or captioning | |
| 01:41 | jtmengel: for a tutorial that seems like it might be most effective | |
| 01:41 | jtmengel: i am definitely drawn to the remixing idea we had on a recent call, which i gather is behind the first slideshow option | |
| 01:42 | jtmengel: but i wonder if, instead, we could make short chunks of video content per feature | |
| 01:42 | jtmengel | I think that I will try voice and then create captioning via YouTube? I have been led to believe that it *can* support multilingual captions |
| 01:42 | christianmarcsch | jtmengel: and allow children/educators to remix those |
| 01:42 | jtmengel | could you elaborate on the remixing? I cannot recall |
| 01:42 | christianmarcsch | jtmengel: sure, that sounds fine |
| 01:43 | jtmengel: the idea that kids/teachers can create their own tutorials from component parts | |
| 01:43 | jtmengel: for instance, if they wanted to create a specific tutorial for their classroom or unique purposes | |
| 01:44 | jtmengel: but: i wouldn't overthink it at this time; we need a practical solution that we can launch with first. we can then later think about remixing and other applications | |
| 01:44 | jtmengel | I recall that now. that's an interesting premise - I am unsure if my tutorials on how to create tutorials will meet the needs there, but I can create those tutorials to be more kid friendly |
| 01:44 | christianmarcsch | jtmengel: that's why i'm leaning towards the screencast |
| 01:44 | jtmengel | and of course I'd make a tutorial video before making the tutorial-tutorial video :D |
| 01:44 | christianmarcsch | jtmengel: does youtube allow people to create their own voiceover tracks? |
| 01:45 | jtmengel | I do not believe so - that is where I would have to include tutorials for other editing software |
| 01:45 | I have a list of free, open source software fit for the task if that's a fitting solution | |
| 01:45 | christianmarcsch | jtmengel: hmm, i wonder if video with captioning might be a better solution, if that is something people can edit directly |
| 01:45 | jtmengel: editing software will likely be a barrier | |
| 01:46 | jtmengel: what do you think about the second option? | |
| 01:46 | jtmengel | true - I was looking into the editing solutions based on what the professor in San Francisco (?) spoke about, regarding captioning being inaccessible in some areas |
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| 01:46 | jtmengel | the second option is definitely accessible in my mind - I come from a deaf family so I know I can make it work |
| 01:46 | christianmarcsch | jtmengel: hmm, i don't recall that... why is it inaccessible? |
| 01:47 | mikedevine | hey, sorry i'm late! |
| 01:47 | christianmarcsch | hi mikedevine |
| 01:47 | jtmengel | hey mikedevine |
| 01:47 | mikedevine | so what have we covered so far? |
| 01:47 | jtmengel | his thought process was that it was a barrier to areas with low literacy rates |
| 01:47 | christianmarcsch | jtmengel: i see |
| 01:47 | mikedevine: we are talking about the approach for tutorials | |
| 01:48 | mikedevine | ah |
| 01:48 | christianmarcsch | jtmengel: i suppose though that the video itself would be explanatory enough |
| 01:48 | jtmengel | I would tend to agree |
| 01:49 | christianmarcsch | jtmengel: i still think a good approach would be to chunk the screencast into individual features & how-tos, interrupted by caption slides |
| 01:49 | jtmengel | and, without audio, the video is no more or less difficult to edit to add audio |
| 01:49 | christianmarcsch | jtmengel: exactly |
| 01:49 | jtmengel: let me give you an example of what i'm thinking | |
| 01:49 | jtmengel: take the write activity | |
| 01:49 | jtmengel: one "how-to" could be how to set the font color | |
| 01:50 | jtmengel: it might start off with a simple caption "Setting the text color" or something to that effect, simple text on a black bg | |
| 01:50 | jtmengel: then follows the screencast, without voice over or captioning, just straight video | |
| 01:51 | jtmengel: and we could repeat that pattern for as many features as need highlighting | |
| 01:51 | jtmengel | ah I see - so time wise it wouldn't be much longer than say 30 seconds |
| 01:51 | christianmarcsch | jtmengel: it might be, depending on how many features need explaining |
| 01:51 | jtmengel: there would be one tutorial per activity | |
| 01:52 | jtmengel: ultimately it would be even better if we could do dynamic captioning | |
| 01:52 | jtmengel: if youtube allows for that, all the better | |
| 01:52 | mikedevine | it does |
| 01:52 | christianmarcsch | http://www.youtube.com/t/captions_about |
| 01:52 | mikedevine | i dunno about muyltiple caption files, but we could theoretically make multiple videos w/ different language captions |
| 01:53 | jtmengel | yea, and I have been led to believe that it will support multiple languages ... "led to believe", though, isn't "have done it myself" |
| 01:53 | christianmarcsch | ok, so how about this |
| 01:53 | short, feature-oriented how-to clips | |
| 01:53 | sequenced to form one tutorial per app | |
| 01:54 | overlaid with dynamic captions | |
| 01:54 | and we'd either have multiple languages, or multiple clips per language | |
| 01:54 | jtmengel | regarding captions - if I make the actual video, having splash screens with captioning added in would be a minimal task - if we like them with the captions we can leave them in or take them out in favor of YouTube's captions |
| 01:54 | and that sounds good to me | |
| 01:54 | christianmarcsch | jtmengel: actually, if we have dynamic captions there probably isn't a need for splash screens at all |
| 01:55 | jtmengel: that would make it even more straightforward | |
| 01:55 | jtmengel | certainly |
| 01:56 | christianmarcsch | jtmengel: so we have a plan? |
| 01:56 | jtmengel | and it doesn't close the door to the other option at all |
| 01:56 | christianmarcsch | jtmengel: true |
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| 01:57 | jtmengel | so I will be making short, series of videos regarding a theme (in this case, SugarOS itself) |
| 01:57 | focus on dynamic captioning and no audio overlay | |
| 01:57 | christianmarcsch | jtmengel: great |
| 01:59 | sounds good | |
| 01:59 | mikedevine: jtmengel mentioned you were working on gathering assets? | |
| 02:00 | mikedevine | yeah i've been pinging all the locations on the deployment map |
| 02:00 | just got a reply from someone with some links i need to look into | |
| 02:00 | meanwhile i gotta mve all the existing assets to dropbox | |
| 02:00 | christianmarcsch | mikedevine: ok. i checked an the folders are still empty |
| 02:01 | is anyone focusing on case studies yet? | |
| 02:01 | i think that is one of the biggest areas apart from tutorials | |
| 02:02 | mikedevine | i can run some searches for them |
| 02:03 | i included that in the email but no one's replied with any yet | |
| 02:03 | christianmarcsch | mikedevine: that would be good. remember that you can contact sean or john to help locate assets |
| 02:03 | mikedevine | but i can reply to the people that got back to me and see if anyoner knows where i can find some |
| 02:03 | christianmarcsch | mikedevine: we need to be resourceful--we didn't have much luck first time around gathering content |
| 02:04 | mikedevine | yeah, that's why i think mining the deployment map will yield some better results |
| 02:04 | christianmarcsch | mikedevine: that sounds good. i know that there is plenty of available material. bernie may also have images and other materials |
| 02:04 | mikedevine: have you been in touch with bernie? he would be able to help | |
| 02:05 | mikedevine | yeah he's been pretty helpful in getting the first batch |
| 02:06 | if i were to just google a lot of it i'd get plenty- the key is getting it from people who have the rights to use it, and being able to credit the sources of the assets properly | |
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| 02:06 | christianmarcsch | mikedevine: definitely |
| 02:06 | JT_4sugar | Here some stuff from OLPC site might help lead to other info http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_research |
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| 02:07 | christianmarcsch | JT_4sugar: thanks, that looks very useful |
| 02:07 | bernie | christianmarcsch, mikedevine: hello guys |
| 02:07 | sorry, i have to leave in 2 minutes :-( | |
| 02:08 | JT_4sugar | christianmarcsch, I will be at Uruguay Summit so I will try track down case study info there. We should probably ask Walter for links-they are probably somewhere in wiki just don't know where to look |
| 02:08 | christianmarcsch | bernie: hi! |
| 02:09 | bernie: no worries, let's catch up later. we are still trying to track down content for the new website | |
| 02:09 | JT_4sugar: that sounds promising... | |
| 02:09 | mikedevine, jtmengel: have you reached out to walter yet? JT_4sugar mentions he may know of additional links | |
| 02:11 | jtmengel | would those links be appropriate for the videos? (though I suppose I won't know until I ask..) |
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| 02:11 | jtmengel | I can send him a ping to let him know what I am doing and ask if he has any input(?) |
| 02:11 | bernie | christianmarcsch: have you seen: http://people.sugarlabs.org/be[…]g/website-images/ |
| 02:11 | ? | |
| 02:12 | just a suggestion, i don't know which images would work best | |
| 02:12 | we have mike lee's permission to use those images | |
| 02:12 | christianmarcsch | bernie: oh wow, i'd seen the images with the girl before |
| 02:12 | bernie: but not the triangle! | |
| 02:12 | JT_4sugar | jtmengel, If you email Walter just ask him for links or copies of all reseach and case studies he knows of on Sugar |
| 02:12 | bernie | christianmarcsch: that one's very cool :) |
| 02:13 | JT_4sugar | research |
| 02:13 | bernie | ok, gotta go i'm so late |
| 02:13 | jtmengel | have a good night, bernie |
| 02:13 | christianmarcsch | bernie: thanks! jt and mike will get in touch with you about those images... |
| 02:14 | so, how else can i help right now? | |
| 02:16 | jtmengel | I can create storyboards for some tutorials (for SugarOS) for you to see in the next day so you can help me move that forward |
| 02:16 | mikedevine | i think we're set on what we need to do for now |
| 02:16 | christianmarcsch | jtmengel: that sounds great |
| 02:16 | mikedevine | or at least i amj as far as gathering content |
| 02:17 | christianmarcsch | mikedevine: ok, just let me know if there is anything i can do to help |
| 02:17 | i'll recap the meeting via email, and then let's reconvene next sunday | |
| 02:17 | btw, | |
| 02:18 | i'm actually going to be relocating to seattle in about three weeks | |
| 02:18 | i'm trying to get as much of this wrapped up before then, because i may need some time to get settled once i land in seattle | |
| 02:19 | jtmengel | understandable - hope you like it out there from your past trips :D |
| 02:19 | i've heard good things, but I have never been myself | |
| 02:19 | christianmarcsch | jtmengel: thanks! it will be a change from new york for sure, but seattle is a nice town |
| 02:19 | jtmengel: the summers are apparently nice | |
| 02:20 | mikedevine | yah i've heard it's a nice place to live |
| 02:21 | contrary to what grunge music would have you believe | |
| 02:21 | christianmarcsch | mikedevine: the lack of sun may take some getting used to... :) |
| 02:21 | alright | |
| 02:21 | jtmengel | and old friend recommended (I think) this to me if I made it out there http://www.seattle.gov/parks/p[…]apanesegarden.htm |
| 02:22 | but yea, digression :D | |
| 02:22 | christianmarcsch | jtmengel: thanks--that looks great |
| 02:22 | i'll recap the notes from the meeting on email | |
| 02:22 | can both of you make it on sunday? | |
| 02:23 | jtmengel | I believe I will be - it's spring cleaning day, so you'll be a reprieve |
| 02:24 | mikedevine | yeah i should be around too |
| 02:25 | christianmarcsch | excellent! |
| 02:26 | mikedevine | ok then i will sign off for now |
| 02:26 | christianmarcsch | talk to you then, and in the meantime let's be in touch via emai |
| 02:26 | jtmengel | night, all |
| 02:27 | christianmarcsch | thanks! good night |
| 02:27 | thanks JT_4sugar | |
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| 02:28 | JT_4sugar | Thanks All! |
| 02:28 | christianmarcsch | bye for now |
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| 14:23 | SeanDaly | JT4sugar walterbender satellit_ pbrobinson : hi i didn't schedule a marketing meeting for today since swamped by work & it's a quiet week, unless anything pressing to cover? |
| 14:24 | JT4sugar | SeanDaly, Hi Sean-nothing very pressing |
| 14:25 | SeanDaly | hi JT4sugar glad you could make website meeting yesterday was too late at night for me |
| 14:26 | satellit_ | nothing here |
| 14:26 | walterbender | hi sean... |
| 14:26 | JT4sugar | SeanDaly, JT is beginning to work on tutorials. Case studies and other content very slow to come in |
| 14:26 | walterbender | nothing pressing AFAIK |
| 14:27 | SeanDaly | hi walterbender, satellit_ |
| 14:28 | JT4sugar: yes I have seen that content is slow in coming... I intend to help out with screen tutorials if i can get a decent screen recorder working, intend to try recordmydesktop | |
| 14:28 | pbrobinson | SeanDaly: No issues, its a 3 day week in the UK so its pretty hectic here too |
| 14:29 | SeanDaly | hi pbrobinson ok will schedule a mktg mtg for next week then thanks |
| 14:30 | JT4sugar | SeanDaly, Keep in touch with JT on that so you don't duplicate work and try to coordinate how they will be set up |
| 14:30 | pbrobinson | SeanDaly: I'll be in Boston next week at RH Summit so my attendance might be iffy, if anything comes up I'll post it to the mailing list before hand |
| 14:31 | SeanDaly | JT4sugar: yes of course interested to see how deal with multilanguages sometimes quickest/easiest solution is to just add black bar on bottom for subtitles |
| 14:31 | pbrobinson: ok | |
| 14:32 | bye everyone loads of work today | |
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| 14:38 | walterbender | pbrobinson: remind me again when you get to Boston. (I leave on the night of the 1st.) |
| 14:41 | pbrobinson | walterbender: not until the 2nd unfortunately |
| 14:42 | walterbender | pbrobinson: well, bernie will overlap with you a few days at least. |
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