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14:04 | JT4sugar | Hi Sean |
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14:04 | SeanDaly | hi JT4sugar |
14:04 | raffael satellit ping? | |
14:04 | satellit_gn3 | lurking |
14:05 | raffael | Hello together. Is it possible to talk about my item ... I am a little bit short of time |
14:05 | SeanDaly | raffael: sure we can start with that |
14:05 | #startmeeting | |
14:05 | meeting | Meeting started Tue Apr 5 14:05:39 2011 UTC. The chair is SeanDaly. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
14:05 | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #endmeeting | |
14:05 | raffael | Great, Thanks |
14:06 | SeanDaly | Raffael has stepped up to organize our presence at LinuxTag 2011 |
14:06 | I'm sorry I didn't help with that I hope I can help now | |
14:07 | my understanding is that our booth gear is in storage & unavailable at Simon's | |
14:07 | and he is out of the country? | |
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14:07 | raffael | Yes |
14:07 | SeanDaly | greets walterbender |
14:07 | that's a pity because the precise reason I bought that gear was for booth events in Germany esp. LinuxTag | |
14:08 | have we asked Simon if someone else can collect the rollup banner and balloon tree? | |
14:08 | raffael | I thing I can buy some branded ballons for us, tony will prepare some kind of posters explaining school envirnment thats all at the moment |
14:08 | SeanDaly | #link http://www.linuxtag.org/2011/ |
14:08 | raffael | I asked him already - seems like there is no chance |
14:09 | SeanDaly | raffael: I have a supply of branded balloons, mail me an address I will send |
14:09 | raffael: we also have a geat poster in SVG ready for local printing | |
14:10 | looking for link on wiki | |
14:10 | satellit__ | http://people.sugarlabs.org/Tg[…]yer_englisch.pdf? |
14:11 | SeanDaly | #link http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/M[…]eam/Booth_Banners |
14:12 | raffael | O.K. I will try to print this materials here in munich |
14:12 | SeanDaly | satellit__: yes that's the handout flyer we used last, perhaps in need of an update, but fine as is |
14:13 | I have one of the A0 posters in storage, but pretty beat-up after doing 3 conferences probably best to reprint locally | |
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14:13 | SeanDaly | greets CanoeBerry |
14:14 | note, it's not SVG but vector PDF | |
14:14 | looks sweet even blown up huge | |
14:14 | raffael | BTW is someone going to join us at Linuxtag? I need to order Tickets then. |
14:14 | SeanDaly | thanks again to garycmartin who had done those |
14:15 | I'm not sure I can make it... need to count vacation days | |
14:16 | raffael is this a stand in a shared booth, or ? | |
14:17 | raffael | I guess yes - the linuxtag Porjec tem will decide this. last time it was shared with skolelinux and squeak |
14:17 | SeanDaly | cool |
14:18 | raffael | tony wants to setup a complete school environment. we will have a school server 6 XO's and some netbooks hoepfully integrating with soas |
14:19 | SeanDaly | that's fabulous |
14:21 | when I was there in 2009 we got a lot of attention by wandering the halls with two XOs doing "Distance", the buzzing sound brought trails of visitors as we returned to the booth | |
14:23 | looking for my Flickr photostream but it seems to have disappeared | |
14:23 | raffael | Great Idea! The XO's still work fine as some kind of eyecatcher. |
14:23 | SeanDaly | having rotten experiences lately with online stuff disappearing |
14:23 | remind me pls, opening date of LinuxTag is early May? | |
14:24 | raffael | Its 2011/05/11 |
14:24 | walterbender | SeanDaly: is there a banner somewhere in the Western Hemisphere? (I am thinking of the Montevideo event) |
14:25 | raffael | Tony is there ... |
14:27 | SeanDaly | my Flickr photostream #link http://www.flickr.com/photos/3[…]2157620524327203/ |
14:28 | walterbender: fraid not, I had made up two at around 400 EUR each, kept one and given the other to Simon which is why it's a pity we can't dig it out for Linuxtag | |
14:29 | walterbender | SeanDaly: np |
14:29 | raffael | O.K. then: Thanks a lot! send you my postage address (for the balloons). If someone has some spare materials for our booth would be great. sorry, need to leave now bye. |
14:29 | SeanDaly | it's heavy to ship $$$ otherwise I would do so but perhaps I could look into a rollup banner provider in Boston area? Then you could pick up |
14:30 | raffael: many thanks for stepping up! | |
14:31 | satellit__: did you want to add an item to agenda? | |
14:32 | satellit__ | not at this time except have updated http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit to make it more teacher friendly |
14:32 | SeanDaly | I'd like to discuss Uruguay race (bizarrely I called it Venezuela race in agenda... need more coffee) |
14:32 | time is short | |
14:34 | Gabriel Eirea replied saying could IRC on weekend but is concerned about easy enough workflow for children | |
14:34 | no content = no microsite | |
14:35 | I had imagined the microsite as a little planet to locally hosted blogs but that will require someone locally to collate/moderate | |
14:35 | I guess next step is to organize an IRC meeting but do we have a plan B? | |
14:38 | walterbender | no Plan B that I know of |
14:38 | JT4sugar | SeanDaly, If kids sent to email as suggested could they be transfered to blog-Copy&paste? Or automated? |
14:39 | satellit__ | dedicated wiki page? for blogs |
14:39 | SeanDaly | JT4sugar: Gabriel's question was, could that be automated |
14:40 | JT4sugar | SeanDaly, Do we know if they can? |
14:40 | SeanDaly | I'm not sure what best technical solution is... idea was a contest and best article or articles would win prize (hopefully team jersey in kid size) |
14:40 | JT4sugar: can what? | |
14:40 | JT4sugar | SeanDaly, Can emails be automated into a blog? |
14:40 | SeanDaly | JT4sugar: look at his mail from 5/31 |
14:41 | 3/31 | |
14:41 | JT4sugar: no idea how that can be done | |
14:41 | that's Gabriel's question | |
14:42 | JT4sugar | SeanDaly, Sounds like we need IRC meeting with them to understand what kind of resources they will have on ground then try to decide what's possible |
14:43 | SeanDaly | yes, in mail Gabriel said weekend best, not so good for me can depends on when |
14:45 | JT4sugar | SeanDaly, I believe that was last weekend referring to. Try to set up something for this week? Race starts 10 days. Anything on Jersey from Garmin-Cervello? |
14:46 | SeanDaly | JT4sugar: you are on cc for everything... I haven't contacted Garmin-Cervelo in the absence of a plan |
14:46 | this is why I say time is short | |
14:47 | JT4sugar | SeanDaly, Think will be talking to Christian and RIT team in morning I will try figure out email/blog possibilities |
14:49 | SeanDaly, If email based submission question is can we get local team in Uruguay to go through emails and put up best to be judged on blog. | |
14:49 | SeanDaly | JT4sugar: I am not comfortable imagining tech solutions with our limited resources |
14:49 | JT4sugar: yes that's right | |
14:52 | JT4sugar | SeanDaly, I don't see it as imagining, they will either say Yes that's no problem or that's a technical hurdle we have no time for. If that's the case emails to Uruguay team on ground to post on blog seems to be only option unless you have other ideas |
14:53 | SeanDaly | JT4sugar: there's just the question of which URL to communicate; i had though of a subdomain to sl.o but perhaps better to indicate blog URL if that's what they can do |
14:55 | JT4sugar | SeanDaly, Christian idea for website was to have event portal built in so would be directed through it as I understand |
14:56 | SeanDaly | JT4sugar: yes, but I don't see that as ready by race start date |
14:57 | satellit__ | SeanDaly: e-mail: Can I add requirements from Marketing for SoaS release? Peter |
14:58 | JT4sugar | SeanDaly, Sounded like event portal piece could be the rest no but think the way Christian was thinking about it was this template that could be ready for race could be used for future events when full site revamp done |
14:59 | SeanDaly | JT4sugar: that's a backend question... my question is, what URL do we communicate. If local blog, probably best to communicate that address |
15:01 | JT4sugar | SeanDaly, Believe we are trying for Skypa call 10amEST tomorrow Christian/RIT we can get more direct answers then if you can join. URL can be set up to look local then redirect I believe? |
15:02 | SeanDaly | JT4sugar: Yes I should be available for call. Redirect nearly always possible, just need to consider URL to communicate vs. persistent URL ppl will bookmark |
15:03 | satellit__: yes saw that I'm not sure time for that discussion today... | |
15:03 | JT4sugar | SeanDaly, We can move to next Agenda item |
15:03 | satellit__ | ok |
15:03 | SeanDaly | thanks I am short on time |
15:04 | need to discuss softphone problem | |
15:04 | Google pulled a fast one on Gizmo5 users, gave short termination notice with no possibility I could find to keep existing phone number | |
15:05 | Google also dropped international payment; international callout, and local numbers outside USA | |
15:05 | They are very unserious about continuity of service which leads me to seek a better provider | |
15:07 | looking for link | |
15:07 | #link http://voip.ms/ | |
15:08 | alskfj <alskfj!~webchat![]() |
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15:08 | JT4sugar | SeanDaly, What are options? When change PR number just adding to next PR release will that be issue? |
15:08 | SeanDaly | JT4sugar: options are we restart from zero, too bad for old phone number |
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15:09 | SeanDaly | JT4sugar: not dramatic, just unfortunate... all our online spidered indexed previous PR now has a dead phone number |
15:10 | reminder of our setup: | |
15:10 | we use number as voicemail box, | |
15:10 | incoming calls generate a wav file which is then forwarded to pr![]() |
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15:11 | JT4sugar | SeanDaly, Would you wait for new PR piece to put out # or would you alert contacts that we have updated services and have new# |
15:11 | SeanDaly | and that address forwards to myself & walterbender (+ whomever else can assist with press contact) |
15:12 | JT4sugar: no, rule of thumb is you don't bother contacts unless you have news; we just nee to say "NOTE NEW PHONE NUMBER" for awhile | |
15:13 | for action I propose to look over pricing at provider above for East Coast US and Europe local phone numbers | |
15:14 | ideally, Cambridge/Boston + London (or Paris), forwarding with same rules | |
15:14 | idea is to encourage phone contact across more timezones | |
15:15 | JT4sugar | Makes sense |
15:16 | SeanDaly | it seems callin service with forwarding is cheap, I just hope soundfile via e-mail possible - this was a great system we had with Gizmo5 and on more than one occasion allowed us to call back influential journalists very quickly |
15:18 | JT4sugar | Is Skype a possibility? You could get messages on your IPhone Skype app Yes? |
15:19 | SeanDaly | I don't know, does Skype offer "real" telephone numbers in Boston and London`? |
15:21 | for example, Gizmo5 had "screen names" or identifiers like Skype, but we didn't care about that, what we want is a real telephone number ppl can dial with any phone (even antiquated analog ;-) | |
15:21 | needs to go soon... | |
15:22 | JT4sugar | They have business services which can offer multiple numbers but not sure how cost structure would match up with other options |
15:23 | SeanDaly, Will verify time with Christian and RIT for tomorrow and let you know | |
15:23 | SeanDaly | we need cheap.. I fronted the $55 last time but I can't support marketing costs indefinitely |
15:24 | JT4sugar: ok thanks | |
15:24 | I propose to place SoaS on agenda of next meeting | |
15:25 | satellit_gn3 | great |
15:25 | JT4sugar | SeanDaly, Understanding my own monthly cost for worldwide skype$12.95 I think there is probably cheaper option |
15:26 | SeanDaly | Peter, Fred G, satellit__ may want to see if marketing possibilities exist, although I'm doubtful |
15:26 | satellit_gn3 | peter is getting it working now that he is back |
15:26 | SeanDaly | JT4sugar: yes needs to be cheapskate which I believe voip.ms is for callin only |
15:26 | satellit_gn3 | I have been testing it on gnome3-shell f15 (this machine) |
15:27 | SeanDaly | satellit_gn3: my main concern (not the only one) is that reliability is paramount, whereas the approach chosen is bleeding-edge |
15:28 | JT4sugar | Seems to be if it can be used reliably and easily by Teachers we want to get to know Sugar and has alot of activities working(Don't have to use command line to get working) |
15:28 | SeanDaly | I still demo with Blueberry |
15:28 | satellit__ | also: we have many community distributions which use sugar-desktop:http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/S[…]ity_Distributions |
15:29 | trisquel 4.1 is great | |
15:29 | SeanDaly | I myself have much more faith in VM solutions, and indeed a different marketing approach |
15:29 | but can't discuss that now need to go :-( | |
15:30 | satellit__ | they are on the wiki and work... |
15:30 | satellit_gn3 | thanks |
15:30 | SeanDaly | ok starting countdown... going once.. |
15:30 | JT4sugar | Thanks-Good day! |
15:30 | SeanDaly | thanks all!! |
15:31 | going twice... | |
15:34 | #endmeeting | |
15:34 | meeting | Meeting ended Tue Apr 5 15:34:15 2011 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. (v 0.1.4) |
15:34 | Minutes: http://meeting.sugarlabs.org/s[…]-05T14:05:39.html | |
15:34 | Log: http://meeting.sugarlabs.org/s[…]11-04-05T14:05:39 | |
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15:42 | Cerlyn | SeanDaly: I kind of like voip.ms (use them for home provider). Have to be slightly careful though on funding them via Credit Card because they are Canadian based but charge in US dollars |
15:42 | They also have an extensive web system you can kind-of make a PBX with within limits | |
15:43 | SeanDaly | Cerlyn: thanks for info! |
15:43 | Cerlyn | you could also point Asterisk to Google voice now |
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15:44 | SeanDaly | Cerlyn: Google voice quite limited, bo international |
15:44 | Cerlyn | I just find it strange it costs me more for 911/112/999 {emergency} service than it does for an actual phone number |
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