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| 14:13 | garycmartin_ | SeanDaly: ping, hi internet connection has been a bit flakey here. |
| 14:14 | SeanDaly | hi garycmartin ready in several mins :-) |
| 14:14 | garycmartin_ | :-) |
| 14:16 | SeanDaly | #startmeeting |
| 14:16 | meeting | Meeting started Tue Mar 29 14:16:49 2011 UTC. The chair is SeanDaly. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
| 14:16 | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #endmeeting | |
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| 14:17 | walterbender | SeanDaly: hi |
| 14:17 | SeanDaly | greets walterbender |
| 14:17 | JT4sugar ? | |
| 14:17 | walterbender | keeps getting dropped on IRC :P |
| 14:17 | JT4sugar | Hi |
| 14:17 | walterbender | hi JT4sugar |
| 14:17 | garycmartin_ | Hi walterbender JT4sugar, IRC is flakey here as well. |
| 14:18 | walterbender | SeanDaly: sorry about the flurry of confused emails of late re press releases |
| 14:18 | SeanDaly | my IRC not flaky but I may be called away for several minutes for a delivery |
| 14:18 | walterbender: I dreamed last night you briefed me.. at a party in Moscow... and I had a 4th kid | |
| 14:18 | talk about mixing genres | |
| 14:19 | walterbender | :) |
| 14:19 | SeanDaly | walterbender: before talking websites, could you recap a little PR things, or is later better? |
| 14:20 | walterbender | SeanDaly: let me not derail the rest of the meeting |
| 14:20 | satellit_afk | lurking |
| 14:20 | SeanDaly | walterbender:ok |
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| 14:20 | SeanDaly | greets satellit_afk |
| 14:20 | greets satellit_ too | |
| 14:20 | satellit_ | : ) |
| 14:21 | SeanDaly | ok let's talk websites then |
| 14:21 | first main site revamp | |
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| 14:22 | SeanDaly | Christian and the RIT students had a workshop ten days ago in NYC |
| 14:23 | Christian prepared a first draft document from their whiteboard and briefed JT4sugar & I on a conf call this morning | |
| 14:23 | I will put that PDF up on the wiki asap today | |
| 14:23 | walterbender | looks forward to seeing it |
| 14:23 | SeanDaly | as well as the rev Christian will do following this morning's discussion |
| 14:24 | They are doing great work, have conceptualized site layout -> but not pages per se | |
| 14:24 | Clear that we will need to locate/generate content - visuals etc., screencam tutorials, ... | |
| 14:25 | JT4sugar: anything to add? | |
| 14:25 | JT4sugar | Just sent out workshop summary to group |
| 14:26 | Per Christian key to success is gathering of content | |
| 14:27 | SeanDaly | When we have it up on the wiki I would like to add request for comment to whole Sugar community |
| 14:28 | quite important: key target is teachers, following MarketLab study results | |
| 14:28 | JT4sugar | SeanDaly, Good idea to synch with JT&Mike they are planning wiki page to collect content and emails to ask for content |
| 14:28 | SeanDaly | JT4sugar: yes of course you had told me that |
| 14:29 | now, about timeframe, JT4sugar did we say in time for SugarCamp beginning of May? | |
| 14:30 | JT4sugar | SeanDaly, Idea have Micro-site ready for race then mock-ups or test site to get comments and suggestions at Uruguay summit go live few weeks later |
| 14:31 | SeanDaly | JT4sugar: Yes, clearly race is hard deadline |
| 14:32 | I haven't liaised with Garmin-Cervelo PR person yet, wanted more concrete idea of what we are going to do | |
| 14:32 | idea from Uruguay to have kids photograph riders, and OLPC/Sugar stands at each stop, sounds great | |
| 14:32 | who was contact for that again? | |
| 14:33 | Gabriel Eirea I think | |
| 14:33 | walterbender | yes |
| 14:34 | SeanDaly | and Leticia Romero |
| 14:34 | walterbender | si |
| 14:34 | SeanDaly | hopes they speak English or French since I have no Spanish :-( |
| 14:34 | walterbender | gabriel speaks English |
| 14:35 | SeanDaly | Gabriel had mentioned a Sugar Labs prize to give out to a lucky kid (or kids)... any ideas? |
| 14:36 | walterbender | I was going to ask Slipstream for some jerseys |
| 14:36 | JT4sugar | SeanDaly, Should contact Garmin-Cervelo about possible prizes for kids(Jerseys) Help in funding for van of Ceibal RAP Volunteers? |
| 14:36 | SeanDaly | walterbender: that would be great |
| 14:36 | JT4sugar: yes we can go to them now that there is a proposal | |
| 14:37 | wonders if they have jerseys in kid sizes | |
| 14:37 | JT4sugar | SeanDaly, Should be enough time for them to have made if don't |
| 14:37 | SeanDaly | by the way on the side topic of swag which jerseys remind me of, garycmartin is 100% right we should get merchandising going |
| 14:38 | satellit_ | the jerseys would be nice to be able to purchase for sugar supporters to use to promote sugar also |
| 14:38 | SeanDaly | I had planned on recruiting a design class prof+students to help with that but didn't get around to it |
| 14:39 | would love to see a t-shirt for each of our star Activities | |
| 14:39 | garycmartin_ | SeanDaly: merchandising seems to not yet be on the www mockups (I just skimmed the pdf) |
| 14:40 | SeanDaly | garycmartin: True, because swag not happening yet... really not that hard to get going but I had gotten stuck with choice of 7 online providers for US/Europe/worldwide shipping |
| 14:41 | walterbender | maybe swag is a local-lab thing |
| 14:42 | SeanDaly | walterbender: no problem as long as certain marketing codes followed ; e.g. not mixing our trademark with others e.g. "sugarlabs powered by AMI BIOS" |
| 14:42 | satellit_ | swag from e-bay online store? |
| 14:42 | garycmartin_ | We should pull together as set of templates for swag that folks can either print locally, or order through something more official. |
| 14:42 | JT4sugar | garycmartin_, Could Icons you have made up easily be screened on to t-shirts? Or does the formatting need to be changed? |
| 14:43 | SeanDaly | satellit_: Cafepress? Spreadshirt? Zazzle? Printfection? VistaPrint? |
| 14:43 | garycmartin_ | JT4sugar: They should work just great. |
| 14:43 | SeanDaly | SVGs blowuppable to huge ;-) |
| 14:43 | embiggenable | |
| 14:44 | garycmartin_ | JT4sugar: I made a set of mockups with one activity icon in the centre and then the activity name in each language around the edges. |
| 14:44 | SeanDaly | old thread on this FWIW: http://lists.sugarlabs.org/arc[…]9-May/001108.html |
| 14:45 | JT4sugar | SeanDaly, Can we have templates on multiple sites so we get over location shipping-US, Europe,Asia,South America, etc. |
| 14:45 | garycmartin_ | Plenty of designs we can play with givem all the Sugar artwork and consistent design style. |
| 14:45 | SeanDaly | garycmartin: on back of shirt could say: a sugarlabs activity" |
| 14:45 | satellit_ | include wiki link on swag for exposure |
| 14:45 | garycmartin_ | SeanDaly: yep +1 |
| 14:45 | SeanDaly | JT4sugar: indeed I had imagined multiple vendors to deal with shipping problem; but I understand quality varies and is not always great... |
| 14:47 | another solution: propose ready-to-go graphics which local labs could get t-shirts done with | |
| 14:47 | I really like idea of Activity name in different languages | |
| 14:47 | garycmartin_ | SeanDaly: Perhaps just pick 2 vendors, and make sure the originals are available for folks to get printed locally. |
| 14:48 | SeanDaly | garycmartin: +1 |
| 14:48 | ok here's a question re Uruguay race micro-site | |
| 14:48 | satellit_ | I like ready to go graphics...also for bike jerseys? |
| 14:48 | JT4sugar | SeanDaly, Have friends that use Cafepress so know thats good for U.S.-Finding good vendors also good for marketing class project you envision |
| 14:49 | SeanDaly | if site content will be articles & photos by kids, Christian suggests using existing infra such as flickr |
| 14:49 | JT4sugar: yes I will hunt down that professor shortlist I had | |
| 14:50 | If articles uploaded to existing outside site, our micro-site could just be one page with embedded links to content? | |
| 14:50 | in other words Christian worried about building/reinventing wheel for micro-site which will have limited shelf life | |
| 14:51 | walterbender | sounds simple which is good |
| 14:51 | SeanDaly | other approach as Gabriel suggested I think would be to publish thru an Activity - do we have one which can do that? Portfolio? |
| 14:51 | garycmartin_ | SeanDaly: Makes sense for photo/video type media (flickr/youtube/dailymotion), but not sure about article page texts. |
| 14:51 | SeanDaly | garycmartin: good point |
| 14:52 | JT4sugar | Christian thinking of some kind of template for micro-site that could extend to future events-future bike race stops-other events |
| 14:52 | walterbender | won't go on a rsant about the need for an upload site |
| 14:53 | SeanDaly | walterbender: upload site on Christian radar... |
| 14:53 | garycmartin_ | walterbender: Use some existing CMS? |
| 14:53 | walterbender | authentification/authorization is the difficult bit |
| 14:53 | no need to discuss it here/now | |
| 14:53 | SeanDaly | garcmartin_: Christian not sure yet, but leaning towards Ruby on Rails |
| 14:53 | JT4sugar | walterbender, That was discussed with JT & Mike. Gerald said we should have something like Scratch site for kids uploads-they are looking into |
| 14:54 | garycmartin_ | wonders why the wiki is not right for such a user end goal. |
| 14:54 | walterbender | JT4sugar: for any activity that want it... |
| 14:55 | SeanDaly | cf. garycmartin_, why not create Spanish wiki race page on wiki for articles? |
| 14:55 | downside? | |
| 14:56 | garycmartin_ | "for any activity that want it", likes the sound of that. A public drop box for Journal entries. |
| 14:56 | JT4sugar | walterbender, Not sure yet but Gerald feels missed opportunity to not have portal for kids to engage about their work with Sugar-Needs some discussion |
| 14:57 | SeanDaly | it's true that a kid-oriented friendly space would be great... |
| 14:57 | walterbender | JT4sugar: he and I have been on that same page for a long time |
| 14:57 | SeanDaly | cf. http://www.bbc.co.uk/cbeebies/ |
| 14:58 | or, http://www.sesamestreet.org/ | |
| 15:00 | garycmartin_ | SeanDaly: Back to an online Sugar like experience (could be a much paired down spin on the Sugar design goals). |
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| 15:01 | SeanDaly | so concretely, for UY race micro-site: would it work to have kids (or their teachers) post articles to wiki? |
| 15:01 | garycmartin: yes indeed :D | |
| 15:05 | JT4sugar | SeanDaly, Seems like a blog might be better format that way content would be sequential to stops along the way. Chance teachers and kids understand use of blogs better than wiki-Allows text and pictures |
| 15:06 | SeanDaly | JT4sugar: probably best to ask Gabriel & Leticia handle that then; but we need to know in order to design front page... might be better to "planetize" blog postings so URL stays Sugar Labs? |
| 15:07 | see, idea is to communicate an URL in the PR for the race, e.g. vueltaciclista.sugarlabs.org | |
| 15:08 | satellit_ | could a special upload link on sugar-browse be created to allow kids to upload files to the wiki on a particular page. I notice that the "upload file"link in using the wiki is missing on sugar-browse but is available if firefox is used to access the wiki |
| 15:09 | JT4sugar | SeanDaly, Good question-but if there is a ton of kids and teachers who decide to contribute do we want to overload planet with this content? |
| 15:09 | SeanDaly | JT4sugar: idea is to dedicate a little planet just for that |
| 15:09 | and best articles get prizes | |
| 15:09 | JT4sugar | SeanDaly, Sounds good |
| 15:10 | SeanDaly | advantage of micro-planet is, hosted wherever Gabriel & Leticia want, even multiple blogs, while maintaining SL URL |
| 15:11 | Kids will likely want to look at their articles after race too :-) | |
| 15:11 | if I'm not mistaken this wouldn't be a lot of work on our side... | |
| 15:12 | JT4sugar | SeanDaly, If that is set-up you could have Blog for each locale they stop/go through which feed into Sugar micro-planet |
| 15:13 | SeanDaly | JT4sugar: we need to brainstorm with Gabriel & Leticia |
| 15:14 | needs to sign off soon... | |
| 15:15 | JT4sugar | SeanDaly, Sounds good just need to ask if they prefer IRC or Skype for brainstorm |
| 15:15 | garycmartin_ | me too. |
| 15:15 | SeanDaly | JT4sugar: do you want to ask them when & how, or shall I? |
| 15:16 | JT4sugar | SeanDaly, If you could that would be great-I think your schedule is one will need to work around so you might suggest some times |
| 15:17 | SeanDaly | JT4sugar: OK will do |
| 15:17 | any other topics for now? | |
| 15:18 | JT4sugar | Think were good-Thanks! |
| 15:18 | SeanDaly | Many thanks JT4sugar, walterbender, garycmartin_, satellit_ |
| 15:18 | counting down.... | |
| 15:18 | going once... | |
| 15:19 | garycmartin_ | SeanDaly: Thanks, good productive meeting :-) |
| 15:19 | SeanDaly | going twice... |
| 15:19 | JT4sugar | Have A Good Day All! |
| 15:20 | SeanDaly | sold to the gentleman in the plaid golf suit |
| 15:20 | #endmeeting | |
| 15:20 | meeting | Meeting ended Tue Mar 29 15:20:20 2011 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. (v 0.1.4) |
| 15:20 | Minutes: http://meeting.sugarlabs.org/s[…]-29T14:16:49.html | |
| 15:20 | Log: http://meeting.sugarlabs.org/s[…]11-03-29T14:16:49 | |
| 15:20 | satellit_ | SeanDaly: take a look at http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit I have tried to make it more teacher friendly.... |
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| 15:22 | SeanDaly | hey satellit_ that page is better all the time |
| 15:22 | satellit_ | trying to follow your guidelines |
| 15:24 | SeanDaly | satellit_: we should make a download pancake button for the Kit |
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| 15:25 | satellit_ | will lok into it.....the online version section is a nice index to sugar for teachers |
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