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| 16:46 | tch | m_anish, bernie: here? |
| 16:46 | m_anish | yep |
| 16:47 | can someone do startmeeting, i may have to ditch you guys in 30 mins if it goes on for that long | |
| 16:47 | :) | |
| 16:47 | bernie | ok |
| 16:47 | #startmeeting | |
| 16:47 | meeting | Meeting started Fri Mar 18 16:47:38 2011 UTC. The chair is bernie. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
| 16:47 | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #endmeeting | |
| 16:48 | bernie | #topic status update |
| 16:48 | m_anish | Yep, I basically wanted to talk about forming a rough schedule for dx3 (due in 3-4 months?), important activities, and milestones |
| 16:48 | ok, btw i'm in DO right now :) | |
| 16:49 | bernie | m_anish: say hello to the director and her sister and to the teachers of 5th and 6th grade |
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| 16:49 | bernie | i hope they still remember me |
| 16:49 | m_anish | they made me drink banana-milk-shake, found out that i'm single and tried to get me married :) |
| 16:49 | oh they do, they call me bernie dos :) | |
| 16:49 | tch | lol |
| 16:49 | bernie | ahahaha |
| 16:49 | m_anish: dextrose 2 powered by bernie 2 | |
| 16:50 | m_anish | :) |
| 16:50 | bernie | m_anish: stay around for lunch, sometimes they make empanadas and delicious stuff |
| 16:51 | m_anish | yep :) |
| 16:51 | Prof Edid says hola!, btw :) | |
| 16:52 | bernie | oh say hello! she's the one who did most testing for dx1! |
| 16:52 | m_anish | ok, back to dx3, i don't have a lot of time left before we go back to asuncion :) |
| 16:52 | bernie | ok |
| 16:53 | so, silbe has cleaned up all our patches for olpc-os-builder and rebased them on the latest upstream olpc-os-builder | |
| 16:53 | m_anish | more or less, IIRC |
| 16:53 | bernie | we have to choose whether we continue in the dextrose3 project or do this work on top of the master branch in the regular dextrose repo |
| 16:54 | we could branch the dextrose repo as of today and then put silbe's work on top of master | |
| 16:54 | m_anish | we can branch out a dextrose-2 from the mainline and continue work on the current mainline/master |
| 16:54 | ah! parallel thinking :) | |
| 16:54 | bernie | btw. is all the dx2 work in the upstream repo? |
| 16:54 | m_anish | yep, now it is, there are some py specific patches in the py branch |
| 16:54 | http://git.sugarlabs.org/~m_anish/dextrose/py | |
| 16:55 | http://git.sugarlabs.org/dextrose/mainline | |
| 16:55 | (for reference) | |
| 16:55 | tch | getting ready for the int release ;) |
| 16:55 | bernie | m_anish: is there an easy way to merge the py patches as well, in a way that does not disrupt the intl build? |
| 16:56 | m_anish | ok, since we have time now, maybe we can chart out a plan for the next 3-4 months ... define a start-date :) and identify major tasks :) |
| 16:56 | bernie, the py build is on a clone of mainline as of now | |
| 16:56 | bernie | m_anish: it's good to have the customizations for the various deployments all in one place, for cross-reference |
| 16:56 | m_anish | so they are separate entities |
| 16:56 | hmm | |
| 16:56 | tch | have we ever discuss whos going to be using it in 4 months? |
| 16:56 | bernie | tch: heh |
| 16:57 | m_anish | tch, probably no one |
| 16:57 | tch | ok, is just important to make that clear :) |
| 16:57 | bernie | tch, m_anish: can we at least ask py to test it in DO? |
| 16:57 | m_anish | tch, its gonna be more like a preview release, with the next release being the stable one |
| 16:57 | bernie, exactly! i was gonna say that, it may not happen in DO... but... | |
| 16:58 | tch | i think one BIG task is to make sure every useful feature we got in dx2 must be present (working) in dx3 |
| 16:58 | m_anish | we're forming a group of 2-3 teachers, 2-3 formadores, martin and maybe 2-3 kids to test the updates that we roll out on the py repos... |
| 16:58 | bernie | tch, m_anish: the two of you are already mostly free of dx2 work by now? |
| 16:58 | tch: yes | |
| 16:58 | m_anish | maybe we can ask them to do that in 1-2 months time |
| 16:59 | also, dfarning_afk was saying we might be having other testers, don't know what he plans | |
| 16:59 | bernie | m_anish: nice. i like this "testing task-force" idea |
| 16:59 | m_anish | bernie, i'd say we'd be mostly free by 1st apr |
| 16:59 | tch, ^? | |
| 16:59 | tch | i keep fixing bugs, but seems that the bugs related to sugar are less frequent now |
| 16:59 | m_anish: i agree | |
| 16:59 | bernie | tch: when we switch to 0.92, you'll see :-) |
| 17:00 | tch | bernie: yeah I am having some shaman visions already :) |
| 17:00 | bernie | tch: but if we started to get bored, we could do one of the big things that were in our critical tasks list. for example, multiple selection in the journal |
| 17:01 | m_anish | bernie, it'd be good to know when we'd have all the dx-2 stuff upstreamed... should we wait for it to get upstreamed before dx3? |
| 17:01 | tch | bernie: true, that is an interesting task |
| 17:01 | m_anish | bernie, what should our 1st (pre-alpha :)) release contain... |
| 17:01 | all dx-2 patches rebased over 0.92? | |
| 17:02 | bernie | m_anish: upstreamed as in accepted into sugar? |
| 17:02 | m_anish | bernie, yep |
| 17:02 | tch | definitely, we can't even start thinking of dx3 without the custom stuff we use in dx2 |
| 17:02 | bernie | m_anish: some of our patches may never be upstreamed... the maintainers were clear about that. but we should still try to upstream the rest. |
| 17:02 | tch | we could use the time to discuss and see how to improve these features and improvements too |
| 17:03 | bernie | m_anish: why don't we submit our dx patches to sugar-devel as we produce them rather than waiting for a specific upstream day? |
| 17:03 | m_anish | its tough to be in a meeting when everyone's making fun of me in the room :) |
| 17:04 | bernie | m_anish: haha, that's DO! |
| 17:04 | m_anish: there are two kids that helped a lot during the DX2 cycle. one was marcelo (a fatty kid), and the other one i can't remember the name (a blond kid) | |
| 17:04 | m_anish | bernie, sorry, continue :), you can't imagine, they're really trying to get me 'fixed' :))) |
| 17:05 | bernie | (during the DX1 cycle) |
| 17:05 | m_anish: fix what? | |
| 17:05 | m_anish | bernie, karen? |
| 17:05 | bernie | married? |
| 17:05 | tch | bernie: i remember that kid, he had a broken XO |
| 17:05 | m_anish | bernie, yeah!!! |
| 17:06 | bernie | tch: yes, he asked me to take the XO-1.5 home for a few days |
| 17:06 | haha | |
| 17:06 | m_anish | bernie, was there another kid, kenny? in some other school ?? |
| 17:06 | bernie | m_anish, tch: anyway, all the DX2 patches up to 2 months ago should already be rebased. |
| 17:07 | tch | ok, so silbe is in chage of that? |
| 17:07 | bernie | m_anish, tch: silbe would know better... and he's pretty good at juggling patches in case some were missing |
| 17:07 | tch | charge* |
| 17:07 | m_anish | crap, i have to run :/// but i've put my stuff on the table :) |
| 17:07 | i may be able to use my 3g modem in the car, sorry :(( | |
| 17:07 | bernie | m_anish: yes. kenny is a high-school kid. he's 16 or so. i can't remember in which school he goes... maybe t.te aquino. |
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| 17:08 | bernie | m_anish: he knows python and he has a blog |
| 17:09 | m_anish: found! http://kennymeyer.blogspot.com/ | |
| 17:10 | tch | he seems to be very active |
| 17:12 | wow, he is doing great stuff! | |
| 17:12 | bernie | tch: paraguay educa should employ him! |
| 17:13 | tch: anyway, shall we postpone the rest of the meeting to a time when we have silbe and/or anish? | |
| 17:13 | tch | ok |
| 17:13 | dfarning | hey all |
| 17:13 | bernie | dfarning: ciao! |
| 17:14 | who's this voice? i can't see... | |
| 17:14 | tch | you should endmeeting/ |
| 17:14 | bernie | :-) |
| 17:14 | #endmeeting | |
| 17:14 | meeting | Meeting ended Fri Mar 18 17:14:19 2011 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. (v 0.1.4) |
| 17:14 | Minutes: http://meeting.sugarlabs.org/s[…]-18T16:47:38.html | |
| 17:14 | Log: http://meeting.sugarlabs.org/s[…]11-03-18T16:47:38 | |
| 17:14 | tch | lol |
| 17:14 | dfarning | bernie, yep, no users for this next release. |
| 17:14 | tch | and yeah someone should hire him .. ! |
| 17:14 | dfarning | but serveral are interested in a january release. |
| 17:15 | bernie | dfarning: ok, so DX3 will be an interim release for promotional use only |
| 17:16 | tch: i just commented on your logo proposal | |
| 17:16 | dfarning | bernie +1 working on enegaging a team of professional testers for the jan release. |
| 17:17 | bernie that will require a load of debugging prior to the exploritory testing phase in the classrooms. | |
| 17:17 | m_anish | back:) |
| 17:17 | on 3g | |
| 17:18 | dfarning | hey m_anish how are you? |
| 17:18 | bernie | dfarning: yup! |
| 17:18 | m_anish | dfarning, great! |
| 17:18 | bernie | m_anish, tch, dfarning: we could aim at making DX3 the release in which collaboration finally works |
| 17:18 | or journal improvements | |
| 17:19 | 3-4 months are enough to do a lot | |
| 17:19 | dfarning | bernie collobra has asked for funding to dedicate staff to sugar. |
| 17:19 | bernie | dfarning: asked whom? |
| 17:19 | m_anish | bernie, yep |
| 17:19 | dfarning | bernie we can't afford that yet. |
| 17:20 | bernie | dfarning: olpc should pay them for that... |
| 17:20 | dfarning: maybe we could ask rgs to help | |
| 17:20 | dfarning | yes just an FYI at this point. |
| 17:21 | bernie | i should be resting my eyes a little |
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| 17:21 | dfarning | bernie ttyl. |
| 17:22 | m_anish | bernie, yep, ttyl :) |
| 17:22 | bernie, sorry, i had to run off in the middle of the meeting :/ | |
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| 17:34 | tch | brb |
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