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#sugar-meeting, 2011-03-08

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15:02 SeanDaly greetings JT4sugar
15:04 JT4sugar Hi Sean
15:04 SeanDaly i am on the channel, but very barely available, have full day & already blocked an hour for later
15:05 JT4sugar OK-Did you get an idea what Seso in for?
15:06 SeanDaly no we'll have an open discussion
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15:09 JT4sugar OK-I thought I would have Marc explain what he is up for, the have Christian speak, then have Prof Jacobs and students talk about what they can bring to table. Thought Sugar Labs folks could listen at firt then open up discussion. Wanted Dogi and Bernie on call so infrastructure needs are understood going forward
15:11 SeanDaly JT4sugar: that's good but we need to kick off discussion with context first: marketlab study confirmed website revamp priority; event opportunity with UY tour and our new sponsor
15:12 dogi and GSOC2011
15:12 JT4sugar SeanDaly, You can lead with context and then we can pass over to Marc, etc.
15:13 dogi that is the other event
15:13 SeanDaly JTSugar: ok
15:13 dogi Google Summer of Code 2011
15:13 SeanDaly dogi: why GSOC 2011?
15:13 dogi cause there student around the world are visiting our websites
15:14 last year there was 2 weeks of double traffic cause of that
15:14 SeanDaly dogi: we'll do a callout on the homepage sure. there will be changing callout from time to time like we have now (has been SoaS for some time)
15:15 dogi but that is nothing compared to september/october
15:15 there our page has to be perfect
15:16 SeanDaly i'm far more worried about meeting deadline in April first...
15:16 dogi cause teachers start in the new school  year
15:16 SeanDaly, I would structure the upgrade in 2 steps
15:17 first is 1.April and second has to be finished by end of august?
15:17 JT4sugar dogi, We should definetely have a feature/project page to show GSOC projects(present/past) and other features/projects that need care(In feature section on wiki there is quite a few)
15:18 dogi ok
15:18 only wanted to speak about what our visit last years are tell us ...
15:19 JT4sugar dogi, Prof Jacobs also thought a two tier rebuild was the sensible path
15:19 dogi gsoc 2x usual traffic and new schoolyear 5x usual traffic
15:19 :)
15:20 has to find a microphone otherwise he has to listen only
15:21 will be back soon
15:21 JT4sugar dogi, Will be interesting to get Designers ideas on how to turn that student traffic into having them become involved with projects
15:22 dogi, Let me know if no microphone I can call phone instead
15:22 dogi http://www.treehouse.su/gar/treehouse6.png
15:23 Browser in the last year on our page
15:23 http://www.treehouse.su/gar/treehouse7.png
15:23 OSes
15:24 http://www.treehouse.su/gar/treehouse8.png
15:24 5% xo s
15:24 they have 840x630 screen
15:25 size
15:25 http://www.treehouse.su/gar/treehouse9.png
15:25 overall screen sizes
15:27 SeanDaly those numbers are pretty scary (I assume they apply only to front main site not wiki?)
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15:27 JT4sugar dogi, Avg. Time on site seems pretty low. This will be good info for Prof. Jacobs students to map some of these pathways to see where most go, what info they are looking for, jumping off points
15:28 SeanDaly browser breakdown shows we gets lots of techies
15:30 confirmed by OS breakdown where GNU/Linux minus 5% for XOs is still 12x or so market share
15:31 JT4sugar I really wouldnt consider Firefox a techy browser. Many people not fans of IE
15:32 SeanDaly JT4sugar: I'm not taking that into consideration, only looking at OSes
15:33 but if you want to look at browsers, check out Opera at 8x or so market share
15:36 JT4sugar SeanDaly, Let you get back to work talk to you soon
15:36 SeanDaly JT4sugar: thanks
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16:55 dogi hi all
16:55 and walter are getting ready in 1cc
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17:31 satellit_ SeanDaly: how it the french trisquel work going?
17:32 SeanDaly hi satellit_ I wasn't at last meeting (Bastien & Lionel were) but work on the Activity continues with Florian the developer
17:34 satellit_ I was just curious. You might talk to quidam on #trisquel about a custom Trisquel 4.1-sugar.iso  though it does work nicely as an installer as it is in french.
17:35 I did a VirtualBox french install here. (Keyboard was a problem for me) as mine is USA keyboard
17:37 SeanDaly satellit_: yes I need to liaise with Trisquel guys, foundation sponsor had questions about localizing/customizing startup screens
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17:37 decause agrees with bernie :)
17:38 bernie hello everyone
17:38 satellit_ SeanDaly: quidam is the main programmer...He is very good.
17:38 bernie did we move the confcall here? i got dropped off
17:39 SeanDaly: Trisquel rocks, i can confirm it
17:39 SeanDaly: it's small, fast, reliable, comes with many activities, boots quickly, works well...
17:40 SeanDaly: uses a very stable sugar release...
17:40 satellit_ Bernie: latest Trisquel 4.1-sugar is much improved (Mar 5)
17:40 bernie satellit_: gotta try it out...
17:40 satellit_ http://devel.trisquel.info/sugar/
17:40 bernie satellit_: we need to find a way to shrink virtual disks to a size comparable to the iso image
17:41 satellit_ boots with "C" in MacBook Pro also as CD
17:41 bernie satellit_: 1GB downloads are a showstopper...
17:42 satellit_ Bernie the installer .iso contains about 10 various virtualbox installers in a folder for various OS.s that is why it is so large
17:42 "sneakernet" installer
17:42 bernie satellit_: yeah, i noticed... thare's no easy way around it
17:44 satellit_ http://people.sugarlabs.org/Tg[…]Cloned-disk1.vmdk  is 531M
17:44 for VM
17:46 http://devel.trisquel.info/sug[…]ugar_4.1_i686.iso  407 M
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18:25 bernie satellit_: in the last vm disk i tried, there were some activities in the journal. I suggest you do "rm -r .sugar" as the final step before closing the VM.
18:30 satellit_ bernie: the latest on the emulator page has this done. starts on name____
18:33 http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/S[…]on_Kit/VirtualBox#.3D.3D.3E_Trisquel_4.1-sugar-installer​.iso_click_link_to_download_1.1_GB_DVD
18:33 http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/S[…]on_Kit/VirtualBox#.3D.3D.3E_Trisquel-4.1-suga​r_click_link_to_see_details   here :(
18:34 both updated this way after discussion about collisions between multple copies
18:35 To Clone a VM or UNUSER (keep journal and installed .xo applications) use "rm ~/.sugar/default/owner.key*" in sugar terminal; then sudo su, (password) "shutdown -h now" done
18:36 http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/E[…]Cleared_or_Cloned
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23:30 bernie Nubae: ping?
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23:36 Nubae yeah am here too
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