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| 12:51 | dirakx | meeting: |
| 12:52 | meeting: #startmeeting | |
| 12:52 | meeting | dirakx: Error: "#startmeeting" is not a valid command. |
| 12:52 | dirakx | just testing |
| 12:52 | #startmeeting | |
| 12:52 | meeting | Meeting started Sat Feb 12 12:52:58 2011 UTC. The chair is dirakx. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
| 12:52 | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #endmeeting | |
| 12:53 | dirakx | #endmeeting |
| 12:53 | meeting | Meeting ended Sat Feb 12 12:53:03 2011 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. (v 0.1.4) |
| 12:53 | Minutes: http://meeting.sugarlabs.org/s[…]-12T12:52:58.html | |
| 12:53 | Log: http://meeting.sugarlabs.org/s[…]11-02-12T12:52:58 | |
| 13:20 | silbe | meeting: #help addchair |
| 13:20 | meeting | silbe: Error: "#help" is not a valid command. |
| 13:20 | silbe | meeting: help addchair |
| 13:20 | meeting | silbe: (addchair <channel> <network> <nick>) -- Add a nick as a chair to the meeting. |
| 13:21 | silbe | #startmeeting |
| 13:21 | meeting | Meeting started Sat Feb 12 13:21:14 2011 UTC. The chair is silbe. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
| 13:21 | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #endmeeting | |
| 13:21 | silbe | #addchair #sugar-meeting freenode dirakx |
| 13:21 | meeting: addchair #sugar-meeting freenode dirakx | |
| 13:21 | meeting | silbe: Error: You don't have the admin capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified. |
| 13:22 | silbe | #chair silbe dirakx |
| 13:22 | meeting | Current chairs: dirakx silbe |
| 13:22 | silbe | ah, finally! |
| 13:23 | #endmeeting | |
| 13:23 | meeting | Meeting ended Sat Feb 12 13:23:06 2011 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. (v 0.1.4) |
| 13:23 | Minutes: http://meeting.sugarlabs.org/s[…]-12T13:21:14.html | |
| 13:23 | Log: http://meeting.sugarlabs.org/s[…]11-02-12T13:21:14 | |
| 13:24 | silbe | #startmeeting |
| 13:24 | meeting | Meeting started Sat Feb 12 13:24:34 2011 UTC. The chair is silbe. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
| 13:24 | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #endmeeting | |
| 13:24 | silbe | #meetingname test meeting |
| 13:24 | meeting | The meeting name has been set to 'test_meeting' |
| 13:25 | silbe | #meetingtopic test some MeetBot commands |
| 13:25 | #chair silbe dirakx | |
| 13:25 | meeting | Current chairs: dirakx silbe |
| 13:25 | silbe | #commands |
| 13:25 | meeting | Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #rejected #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk |
| 13:25 | silbe | #more |
| 13:25 | more | |
| 13:25 | meeting: more | |
| 13:25 | meeting | silbe: Error: You haven't asked me a command; perhaps you want to see someone else's more. To do so, call this command with that person's nick. |
| 13:25 | silbe | meeting: commands |
| 13:25 | meeting | silbe: action, add, addchair, alert, announce, announce add, announce list, announce remove, any, apply, apropos, at, author, ban add, ban list, ban remove, capabilities, capability add, capability list, capability remove, capability set, capability setdefault, capability unset, change, changename, channel, channels, channelstats, cmd, command, commands, config, connect, contributors, cpu, ctime, cycle, default, (3 more messages) |
| 13:25 | silbe | meeting: more |
| 13:25 | meeting | silbe: defaultcapability, defaultplugin, dehalfop, deletemeeting, deop, devoice, dict, dictionaries, disable, disconnect, doctype, driver, echo, elapsed, enable, export, fetch, fit, flush, get, ghost, halfop, headers, help, hostmask, hostmask add, hostmask list, hostmask remove, identify, ignore, ignore add, ignore list, ignore remove, info, insert, invite, ircquote, join, kban, key, kick, langs, last, latency, (2 more messages) |
| 13:25 | silbe | meeting: more |
| 13:25 | meeting | silbe: limit, list, listmeetings, ln, load, lobotomy add, lobotomy list, lobotomy remove, lock, log, mode, moderate, more, net, netcraft, networks, news, next, nick, nickometer, nicks, note, notice, old, op, part, password, pin, ping, pingall, plugin, praise, private, quit, random, rank, recent, reconnect, redo, register, reload, remove, rename, reorder, repeat, replace, reply, restore, rss, savemeetings, search, (1 more message) |
| 13:25 | silbe | meeting: more |
| 13:25 | meeting | silbe: seconds, seen, send, separator, server, set, set password, set secure, shuffle, size, source, stats, status, success, swap, tell, threads, time, tiny, title, topic, unban, undo, unidentify, unload, unlock, unmoderate, unpin, unregister, unrename, unsend, until, upkeep, uptime, urlquote, urlunquote, user, username, version, voice, whoami, and whois |
| 13:26 | silbe | #endmeeting |
| 13:26 | meeting | Meeting ended Sat Feb 12 13:26:03 2011 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. (v 0.1.4) |
| 13:26 | Minutes: http://meeting.sugarlabs.org/s[…]-12T13:24:34.html | |
| 13:26 | Log: http://meeting.sugarlabs.org/s[…]11-02-12T13:24:34 | |
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| 13:54 | dirakx | Hi |
| 13:54 | all. | |
| 13:55 | tch | :) |
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| 13:56 | dirakx | is everybody in ? ;) |
| 13:57 | dfarning | dirakx: morning |
| 13:57 | dirakx | dfarning: morning |
| 13:57 | arjs | dirakx: morning |
| 13:57 | dfarning: morning | |
| 13:58 | dfarning | hey arjs |
| 13:58 | good to see you | |
| 13:58 | arjs | likewise:) |
| 13:58 | dirakx | arjs: Hi |
| 13:59 | m_anish | hola todos |
| 13:59 | dirakx | m_anish: hola |
| 13:59 | dfarning | bernie: m_anish, alsroot, silbe, SMParrish, tch |
| 13:59 | dirakx | ok i guess we can start |
| 13:59 | tch | buen dia :) |
| 13:59 | alsroot | here |
| 14:00 | dirakx | #starmeeting |
| 14:00 | #startmeeting | |
| 14:00 | meeting | Meeting started Sat Feb 12 14:00:23 2011 UTC. The chair is dirakx. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
| 14:00 | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #endmeeting | |
| 14:00 | dirakx | #topic Short progress summary to inform the rest of the team |
| 14:00 | #topic | |
| 14:01 | Short progress summary to inform the rest of the team | |
| 14:01 | a quick summary about what i have been doing | |
| 14:01 | silbe | dirakx: the first one was correct, it's just a "silent" command. |
| 14:02 | dirakx | silbe: Ok thanks. |
| 14:02 | ok thi week we have been following and fixing bugs realted to activities reported by field. | |
| 14:02 | this* | |
| 14:03 | some specifically related to Xo-1.0 sound issues. | |
| 14:04 | there are new versions gcompris, scratch, conozco-uruguay, paint..that have minor fixes and shoulde be tested in field. | |
| 14:04 | alsroot | that an odd issue, XO-1 and XO-1.5 have the same fc11 and use pulse, but it works fine on XO-1.5 but doesn't for XO-1 |
| 14:04 | dirakx | we should be looking close to that. |
| 14:04 | alsroot | eg, gst sends fails(in some cases) while playing files |
| 14:05 | dirakx | alsroot: not sure what could be the fix there. |
| 14:05 | alsroot | dirakx: for GC, I've added workaround, will look to TamTam/csound |
| 14:06 | dirakx | alsroot: oh yes..I haven't tested the workaround for GC. |
| 14:06 | alsroot | dirakx: it is in v17 |
| 14:06 | dirakx | alsroot: noticed. |
| 14:06 | silbe | alsroot: maybe the codec (or default alsa config) on the XO-1.5 can play multiple streams in parallel, but the XO-1.0 cannot? |
| 14:07 | alsroot | silbe: the thing is that both envs use pulse |
| 14:07 | so it should be ok | |
| 14:08 | will recheck it closer, though | |
| 14:08 | silbe | alsroot: does pulse use software mixing automatically? |
| 14:09 | alsroot | silbe: at least I though it |
| 14:09 | all time though that one of the reasons to use it was that there is no need in alsa dmux | |
| 14:10 | dirakx | #action silbe and alsroot to look at sound issues on XO-1.0 |
| 14:10 | ;) | |
| 14:11 | alsroot | s/dmux/dmixer/ though |
| 14:11 | dirakx | ok moving on.. pootle is working now for activites still need to do some minor fixes for creating our dextrose project. |
| 14:12 | next week should be fixed. | |
| 14:12 | m_anish | alsroot, dirakx is it also true that if i turn the speaker volume down during boot time, i cannot turn it up when sugar is running because they control different settings |
| 14:12 | alsroot | dirakx: do we have the ready-to-go plan how handling dextrose pathces on pootle? |
| 14:13 | dirakx | alsroot: for now I think we can work with dextrose-translations repos provided by silbe, |
| 14:13 | the question woul be on how to sync patches to those repos. | |
| 14:13 | alsroot | m_anish: how did you turn volume down during the boot time? |
| 14:13 | dirakx: ok, /me was just curious | |
| 14:14 | dirakx | alsroot: ok np :) |
| 14:14 | m_anish | alsroot, pressing the down volume key |
| 14:14 | silbe | dirakx: I'll do the juggling the patches between Dextrose-3 and the dextrose-translation repo. |
| 14:14 | alsroot: ^ | |
| 14:14 | dirakx | silbe: nice. |
| 14:15 | m_anish: that sounds like a familiar issue. not sure if solved. | |
| 14:15 | silbe | m_anish: if there's a mismatch between OFW, olpc-kbdshim and/or the Sugar volume control, we should bring it up on devell.l.o. |
| 14:16 | dirakx | silbe: +1 |
| 14:16 | dfarning | as an aside -- m_anish can you send the priority work list to the dextrose ML. Since it is technical it should be public. |
| 14:16 | silbe | m_anish: IMO all components should only touch the master control and just initialise PCM to something sane. Master exists on all systems (including non-XOs). |
| 14:16 | m_anish | dfarning, ok np, i'll add this and send to dextrose ml |
| 14:16 | dfarning | m_anish: thanks |
| 14:17 | dirakx | m_anish: thanks. |
| 14:17 | m_anish | silbe, hmm, this issue doesn't seem to be there, i'm testing w/ xo1 |
| 14:18 | silbe | m_anish: if it works fine on XO-1, that's a start. :) |
| 14:19 | dirakx | #action m_anish to make mail about sound start issues (dx and devel-laptop). |
| 14:19 | ok next topic.. | |
| 14:19 | m_anish | dfarning, sent |
| 14:19 | dirakx | #Dextrose-2 (m_anish) . |
| 14:20 | #topic Dextrose-2 (m_anish) . | |
| 14:20 | ;) | |
| 14:21 | m_anish | ok, so I summed up the critical issues in a mail I cced dextrose just now... |
| 14:21 | dirakx | m_anish: great. |
| 14:21 | m_anish | re: activity, #2593, #2605, and Trying to install OpenOffice (i'll upload xo somewhere) are the major ones... |
| 14:21 | alsroot | m_anish: btw do we need OO/LO on XO-1? |
| 14:22 | thinks it sounds overkill | |
| 14:22 | dirakx | oo in xo-1.0 it's very memory exhausting. |
| 14:22 | tch | its OOo4Kids ? |
| 14:22 | m_anish | alsroot, well they say they don't need it by default on the build, but some teachers wanna install it... its tricky :/ |
| 14:23 | and its over 1/4th the space on the xo. | |
| 14:23 | silbe | m_anish: sounds like installing OOo from bundles should work eventually, but isn't a release blocker. |
| 14:23 | m_anish | re: platform #2602, #2608, #2609, #2588/89, Keyboard layout problem... |
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| 14:24 | m_anish | and another issue we were facing yesterday (atleast with xo1.5's) that the laptops weren't registering to the schoolserver, and if they were, the lease.sig file wasn't there for some reason... me+tch will debug this some more |
| 14:25 | tch | ^ critical |
| 14:25 | m_anish | silbe, yep, i'd say the activity issues are high-priority but not blockers |
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| 14:26 | m_anish | silbe, but platform ones are critical/blockers |
| 14:26 | silbe | m_anish: some other time I'd be curious to know what they're using OO for, i.e. what kind of feature they're missing in the existing Sugar activities (Write, SocialCalc). |
| 14:26 | alsroot | m_anish: I've decreased http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/2589 since we have tch's patch |
| 14:27 | m_anish | so dirakx , can you take the lead in resolving the activity issues, while the rest of us take care of the platform ones? |
| 14:27 | dirakx | also a solution could be running OO from USB, avoiding memory consumption. |
| 14:27 | m_anish: sure!. | |
| 14:27 | m_anish | silbe, well for one, they told me to remove socialcalc :) |
| 14:27 | silbe | is puzzled |
| 14:28 | dfarning | good morning Nubae, the logs will be available at the end of the meeting. right now we are going through blockers/crtitical/high priority bug for next week. |
| 14:28 | dirakx | m_anish: I've pulled back socialcalc to sand-box until major bugs are fixed. |
| 14:28 | m_anish | silbe, that's how things work here :) |
| 14:28 | Nubae | cool :p |
| 14:29 | m_anish | so re: remaining tasks, anyone interested in doing anything particular :) |
| 14:29 | (tch + me working on XS) | |
| 14:29 | tch | m_anish: i will check the activation one with you, and also the wifi one |
| 14:30 | m_anish | tch, ok, the XS-rpm you're making can wait for a bit :) |
| 14:30 | silbe | if you report the wireless issue to dev.laptop.org, maybe someone from OLPC (pgf?) will work on it. |
| 14:30 | tch | m_anish: yup, |
| 14:30 | silbe: +1 | |
| 14:31 | silbe | I have a suspicion it's got something to do with their rfkill vs. NM hack. |
| 14:31 | We should first check whether we use their latest code, though. | |
| 14:31 | m_anish | silbe, tch , i'll report it to them, but we should ideally have a fix/workaround in the next 4-5 days |
| 14:32 | tch | m_anish: yup, in the worse case we will just enable it after every boot |
| 14:32 | silbe | m_anish: try pinging pgf on #olpc-devel then |
| 14:32 | m_anish | tch, +1, silbe ok |
| 14:32 | silbe | or was it martin_xsa? Probably worth checking some changelog for who did the rfkill hack |
| 14:33 | m_anish | ok, #2608 (dup of #1948), i've seen this happen on an XO-1|dx2 |
| 14:34 | alsroot | m_anish: we already have #1948, if you can repoduce #2608, it is another issue |
| 14:34 | silbe | m_anish: I've been seeing this for ages on XO-1.5 running mainline/master on Debian Squeeze. |
| 14:35 | m_anish | alsroot, silbe so this is a different issue then.. and a high priority one :) |
| 14:35 | silbe | alsroot: why do you think it's a different issue? I have never seen a complete fix for it anywhere. |
| 14:35 | and the symptom is exactly the one I've been seeing for a long time | |
| 14:38 | dirakx | more on this topic ? . |
| 14:38 | m_anish | dirakx, yep |
| 14:38 | dirakx | ok |
| 14:38 | go on. | |
| 14:38 | alsroot | m_anish: btw, when you are editing acitivty titles? |
| 14:39 | m_anish: in case of #2608 | |
| 14:39 | m_anish: *where | |
| 14:39 | m_anish | alsroot, in the activity toolbar textfield |
| 14:40 | alsroot | m_anish: for what activity? |
| 14:40 | m_anish | alsroot, i've checked it for write |
| 14:40 | alsroot | m_anish: it works fine for me |
| 14:40 | m_anish | alsroot, on a xo-1? |
| 14:41 | silbe | m_anish: can you reproduce in Calculate? Write is a bit special sometimes... |
| 14:41 | alsroot | m_anish: nope, on my box (but it should be the same), though will test on XO-1 |
| 14:41 | m_anish | alsroot, i just checked it on write again, it happens |
| 14:42 | alsroot, will check on calculate and let u know | |
| 14:42 | we have the keyboard layout problem, the osbuilder /modules/base/ksmain... says the default keyboard should be US, the setting however is set to Akan, Ghana, we actually need to set it to spanish | |
| 14:43 | dirakx | will also test #2608 |
| 14:43 | m_anish | also, i'll try to reproduce a relaible testcase for #2609, but keep an eye open when this happens to you on an xo |
| 14:44 | alsroot, can you take care of #2608 then? | |
| 14:44 | alsroot | m_anish: will do |
| 14:45 | m_anish | alsroot, great, thanks!, /me will look into the keyboard setting issue |
| 14:45 | silbe | interesting, I can't reproduce it (using Calculate and Write) on mainline/master. It's at least harder to trigger now... |
| 14:45 | m_anish | silbe, its quite easy to trigger on write on an xo1 :) |
| 14:46 | silbe | m_anish: shouldn't the keyboard layout be set according to manufacturing tags during boot? |
| 14:47 | m_anish: can you trigger it using Calculate and/or Write on XO-1.5, too? | |
| 14:47 | m_anish | silbe, i'm not sure, if so, it definitely shouldn't be ghana, also, maybe its related to the issue bernie reported (keyboard CP setting takes 4-5 seconds to open) |
| 14:47 | alsroot | m_anish: I can't reproduce #2608 on XO-1/1.5, as well. recheck your env (if it is dx2) and check shell.log |
| 14:47 | silbe | (with the same build) |
| 14:47 | m_anish | silbe, haven't tested, but will do |
| 14:47 | i'll upload yesterday's build somewhere as well | |
| 14:48 | silbe | m_anish: shouldn't we hide the keyboard CP on XOs? Is anyone actually changing keyboard layouts at run time on an XO? |
| 14:48 | (related, but different issue, of course) | |
| 14:49 | m_anish | silbe, good question! |
| 14:49 | silbe | m_anish: if the default is US and it's choosing Ghana, then probably either the manufacturing tags are incorrect or some lookup table is. Best to dump the manufacturing tags and ask on #olpc-devel I guess. |
| 14:50 | m_anish | i'd imagine not, tch , bernie what do you think? |
| 14:50 | silbe, ok, will do, thanks! | |
| 14:50 | dirakx | k next topic everyone ?. |
| 14:51 | m_anish | dirakx, yep |
| 14:51 | dirakx | #topic Dextrose Server (nubae) |
| 14:51 | tch | m_anish: i think ES-UY is the default, maybe we removed thats why it switches to EN? |
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| 14:52 | dirakx | Nubae: your word now. |
| 14:52 | Nubae | ok.. |
| 14:52 | silbe | tch: I thought it uses Akan, not english? |
| 14:52 | m_anish | tch, it switches to ghana! |
| 14:52 | tch | m_anish: add ES-UY to the example file and regenerate the build, it could work. |
| 14:52 | silbe | all ears to nubae now |
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| 14:53 | tch | what?! ghana? |
| 14:53 | sorry, we can continue later, | |
| 14:53 | Nubae: we listen :) | |
| 14:53 | Nubae | ok well, over the last couple of weeks we've managed to get a pretty clear vision of what's needed for dextrose server |
| 14:54 | the most important part was some system that would build the server with the least amount of hassle and the fastest turn around for end user deployments | |
| 14:55 | dirakx | likes that point. |
| 14:55 | silbe | Nubae: for tiny/small and/or large scale deployments? |
| 14:55 | Nubae | In the past, I used 2 titles for the parts of the system, mothership dextrose and schoolserver |
| 14:56 | mothership, however doesnt seem like the best term, but I'll use it here just to make it differentiated from the final product | |
| 14:56 | The idea here is that we wanted something as stable as possible, so we opted for RHEL 6, as opposed to Fedora | |
| 14:57 | currently rhel6 is really quite upto date, having been released last November | |
| 14:58 | silbe, yes the idea is to make it work for all deployments... I'd imagine a deployment generally needs 2 or more servers right? | |
| 14:58 | dirakx | Nubae: how do we manage RHEL updates..?. |
| 14:58 | Nubae | If its one, we could always just use the builder inhouse and send them the iso |
| 14:59 | for now, there are many workarounds for updates, as I guess you are reffering to Red Hat Network | |
| 14:59 | silbe | Nubae: I would imagine many deployments to start out rather small, with just a single server (and probably bare able to get the hardware running, no mentioning having sufficient admin knowledge). |
| 15:00 | Nubae | RHN is really just an instance of the opensource software spacewalk, which is the upstream project for sattellite, that Red Hat uses to update |
| 15:00 | silbe | I don't know where our priorities are, though - quite possibly at the large deployments. dfarning would know. ;) |
| 15:00 | Nubae | silbe that's exactly the reason for having a builder in place... the builder simply creates an iso |
| 15:01 | size =! issue | |
| 15:01 | the whole point is scalability though | |
| 15:01 | better to build for large networks in mind, than for single installs | |
| 15:02 | silbe | ok, so you boot the server from an ISO (via CD, DVD or USB stick) and it'll install you an XS semi-automatically with very few if any questions asked? |
| 15:02 | Nubae | anyway, instead of RHN, spacewalk or something other more complex solution |
| 15:02 | dfarning | silbe: the top priority is puppetizing the school server so it can be installed and updated remotely |
| 15:02 | Nubae | silbe it will ask u no questions |
| 15:02 | silbe | Nubae: nice! |
| 15:02 | Nubae | right, getting to puppet |
| 15:03 | but let me get to it in order :p | |
| 15:03 | silbe | Nubae: sorry :) |
| 15:03 | dfarning | silbe: if we can git the puppet stuff working the rest should fall into place pretty logically |
| 15:04 | Nubae | we've chosen to simply automatically create schoolservers with this master server/builder |
| 15:05 | for those interested in how I'm actually implementing this, ie. the code... check the wiki under dextrose/server/building | |
| 15:05 | silbe | dfarning: I was mainly worried that the smallest setup requires more than one server (anything Puppet based usually does). |
| 15:06 | Nubae | the end product will be a server that has all the necessary services, packages, content and puppet+nagios+ejabberd |
| 15:06 | silbe | #link https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/[…]e/Server/Building |
| 15:06 | Nubae | silbe, my idea behind that would be to have a centralised puppet+nagios+ejabberd server for ourselves |
| 15:07 | lets say at the tier 3 level | |
| 15:07 | silbe | Nubae: is TFTP+NFS just for initial installation (probably at a central location) or for regular operation (via WAN)? |
| 15:07 | Nubae | instead of the deployments controlling it, we do... IF they require updates/security/help/collaboration and the like |
| 15:07 | silbe | Nubae: ah, interesting. |
| 15:07 | Nubae | no no... thats just the builder |
| 15:08 | that part is how _I_ am creating the builder, the documentation... the guts | |
| 15:08 | silbe | ah, ok. |
| 15:08 | dirakx | great |
| 15:08 | Nubae | just so that in the future, its easy to understand and no need to reverse engineer what I've done |
| 15:08 | as is the case for me right now with the XS server | |
| 15:08 | ;-) | |
| 15:08 | silbe | Nubae: +1. I was just confused about what the page describes. :) |
| 15:08 | Nubae | that is in fact, where I am at now... the Building page isn't totally finished |
| 15:09 | when it is, I hope its less confusing | |
| 15:09 | I'll get silbe to look at it again for me :p | |
| 15:09 | silbe | <g> |
| 15:09 | Nubae | should be finished Sunuday evening |
| 15:09 | silbe is now known as silbe_afk | |
| 15:09 | dirakx | Nubae: ok anymore to add? |
| 15:10 | ;) | |
| 15:10 | Nubae | right... so that means we now have the following: |
| 15:10 | almost done dirakx | |
| 15:10 | dirakx | ok np |
| 15:11 | Nubae | a working builder, that when u connect necessary servers to build, they are added to a network box, and dhcp hands them an address, and network autoboot does the rest of the magic... a completely unattended install |
| 15:11 | this ususally takes about 30-35 minutes | |
| 15:11 | but u can add up to 100 servers at once to be built | |
| 15:12 | so hopefully with gigabit this shhould make it possible to deploy servers extremely fast | |
| 15:12 | silbe_afk is now known as silbe | |
| 15:12 | Nubae | finally, there is of course an option to create an iso directly |
| 15:12 | dirakx | sounds good to me. |
| 15:13 | Nubae | from the startup options, there are also various choices for installs (right now we have install, upgrade, or raid - 2 disks) |
| 15:13 | dfarning | silbe this is based on the work Nubae did in spain on the very large edumarea(sic) deployment. |
| 15:13 | Nubae | Are there any otehr ideas about this? |
| 15:13 | silbe | dfarning: nice! |
| 15:13 | Nubae | guadalinex-edu |
| 15:13 | :-) | |
| 15:13 | dfarning | sorry. |
| 15:13 | Nubae | we ddid it there with debian |
| 15:14 | silbe | Nubae: not for now. I'm keen to try it out in a set of VMs once you're finished, though. :) |
| 15:14 | Nubae | but rhel6 is far far easier to work with |
| 15:14 | silbe | Nubae: and I'd be even more keen to try a Debian based variant. :-P |
| 15:14 | Nubae | heh, I even have a solaris variant :p |
| 15:14 | but thats a total different story... | |
| 15:15 | dirakx | Nubae: I'm concerned about rhel updates..do we have to register (to redhat) or something in order to update? |
| 15:15 | Nubae | but if it were necessary in the future we could handle supporting solaris and debian 6 servers too |
| 15:15 | dirakx that was my first concern too | |
| 15:15 | dirakx | debian +1 |
| 15:15 | Nubae | there are many workarounds |
| 15:15 | dirakx | Nubae: hacks?. |
| 15:15 | :) | |
| 15:15 | Nubae | no |
| 15:16 | no hacks! :-) | |
| 15:16 | dfarning | dirakx: we will work out the details with RH or shift to Centos. |
| 15:16 | Nubae | thats the main 2 options as dfarning states |
| 15:16 | dirakx | dfarning: ok nice. |
| 15:16 | Nubae | but right now I am using 3rd party repos |
| 15:16 | dirakx | let's call it a meeting then. |
| 15:16 | Nubae | and the only possible negative is using beta repos of rhel6 |
| 15:17 | but there are many very good 3rd party repos, I wouldnt worry about it | |
| 15:17 | is done | |
| 15:17 | dirakx | Nubae: hmm ok |
| 15:17 | #endmeeting | |
| 15:17 | meeting | Meeting ended Sat Feb 12 15:17:34 2011 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. (v 0.1.4) |
| 15:17 | Minutes: http://meeting.sugarlabs.org/s[…]-12T14:00:23.html | |
| 15:17 | Log: http://meeting.sugarlabs.org/s[…]11-02-12T14:00:23 | |
| 15:17 | silbe | hmm, no upstream part today? well, so be it. :) |
| 15:17 | dirakx | Thanks everyone..we can continue the altks about debugging..and stuff. |
| 15:18 | silbe: next time will be then. | |
| 15:18 | talks* | |
| 15:18 | Nubae | silbe, would it be helpful for me to document the debian server creator part too? |
| 15:18 | silbe | Nubae: if it doesn't take you too much time, please do. |
| 15:19 | Nubae | I'll do it my free time, it was quite enjoyable to do :-) |
| 15:19 | silbe | dirakx: don't worry. The focus right now is (and should be) on getting DX-2 out of the door. |
| 15:19 | Nubae | also, I think it would give us a full product to support Urugay servers |
| 15:19 | heh, UrugUay even | |
| 15:20 | silbe | (on the upstream side it's about getting 0.92 out of the door so we can base 14.whatever and DX-3 on it) |
| 15:20 | dirakx | silbe: ok also,,/me don't like long meetings. anyway for next meeting we have to talk about upstream. |
| 15:20 | m_anish | very good meeting :) |
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| 15:20 | silbe | wonders where pflores it today |
| 15:20 | dirakx | Nubae: for me it would be crucial to have a debian server creator too. |
| 15:21 | silbe | dirakx: +1 on short, focussed meetings. :) |
| 15:21 | dirakx | Nubae: not all deployments like rhel or fedora. |
| 15:21 | Nubae | dirakx excellent... for me it makes MUCH more sense to have puppet working to support multiple architectures |
| 15:21 | thats what its actually meant for | |
| 15:22 | dfarning | silbe: pflores has two twins that are a couple of months old. he fits his work in when they are napping:) |
| 15:22 | dirakx | Nubae: great. |
| 15:23 | silbe | is ashamed he forgot about those nicely named twins... :-/ |
| 15:23 | Nubae | nicely named? |
| 15:24 | silbe | well, the boy at least :-P |
| 15:24 | dfarning | Sascha :) |
| 15:26 | silbe | Nubae: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/A[…]Events/2011-02-04 |
| 15:26 | The first Sugar twins: The Sugar community just got larger: Pablo Flores and Micaela Acosta had twins, Nacieron | |
| 15:26 | Facundo and Sasha, born on 27 December. | |
| 15:27 | Nubae | nice |
| 15:27 | dirakx | :) |
| 15:28 | silbe | hmm, reading it again I'm not even sure about the gender of the kids... |
| 15:30 | Nubae | facundo is a boy ;-) |
| 15:30 | sasha girl :p | |
| 15:30 | silbe | Nubae: do you know or suspect? |
| 15:31 | Nubae | I know spanish pretty fluently |
| 15:31 | dirakx | confirmed.. |
| 15:32 | silbe | Nubae: well, that's not a guarantee. I've met boys with the spelling Sasha (though it's rather unusual)... |
| 15:33 | dirakx: ok, thanks. Then my assumption was correct. :) | |
| 15:33 | dirakx | silbe: to tell you the truth the first impression of you was that you were a Girl..because in spanish sacha is a girl's name , then i realize that you had to be german. |
| 15:33 | :) | |
| 15:33 | silbe | even if you had met there would have been a chance you'd mistake me for a girl :D |
| 15:33 | (without even knowing my name) | |
| 15:33 | dirakx | hehe |
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