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13:39 | bernie | lucian_: oh, hello |
13:39 | lucian_: how are you? | |
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13:40 | lucian | bernie: hi. ok |
13:40 | bernie | dfarning_afk, m_anish_afk, tch, alsroot, SMParrish, dirakx: meeting in 20 mins |
13:40 | dirakx | I'm on. |
13:42 | dfarning_afk is now known as dfarning | |
13:43 | dfarning | bernie, nice I was just looking up your number for your wake up call:) |
13:47 | looks tch is going to miss | |
13:47 | SMParrish, will also probably need to catch up at AA after FUDcon. | |
13:55 | bernie | dfarning: Alcoholics Anonymous? |
13:56 | dfarning: Andres Ambrosios? | |
13:56 | dfarning | bernie, Americian Airlines:) |
13:56 | bernie | lol |
13:56 | dfarning: oh, they canceled his flight too? | |
13:57 | dfarning: we could have gone together to the Grand Canyon... i could have used some company | |
13:57 | dfarning | bernie, he works full time at American Airlines |
13:58 | bernie, we need to follow up on FUDCon when you get a chance. | |
13:58 | bernie | dfarning: sure... after this meeting? |
13:58 | dfarning | bernie, +1 |
13:59 | bernie | if you guys don't mind, i'd like to do some bug triaging today... |
13:59 | silbe <silbe!~silbe![]() |
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13:59 | bernie | the list is still long and release is closing |
13:59 | silbe: hello | |
14:00 | silbe | bernie: hi! |
14:00 | dfarning | silbe, morning. |
14:02 | dirakx | bug triaging ++ |
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14:03 | dfarning | arjs, morning. |
14:03 | arjs | dfarning: morning...or rather good evening :) |
14:03 | dfarning | alsroot, ping:) you are up! |
14:04 | alsroot | #startmeeting |
14:04 | meeting | Meeting started Sat Feb 5 14:04:06 2011 UTC. The chair is alsroot. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
14:04 | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #endmeeting | |
14:04 | alsroot | m_anish_afk: ping |
14:05 | looks like m_anish_afk is afk, and tch as well | |
14:05 | #topic activity patching progress, short summary | |
14:05 | passes the word to dirakx | |
14:05 | dfarning | m_anish_afk and roberto were at a school doing the first round of testing thursday and Friday..... they might need to recover. |
14:05 | dirakx | hello all. |
14:06 | so ok there have been some minor tweeks for tamtam, record, wikipedia and maze. | |
14:07 | wikipedia is a must (in my opinion) to upload to aslo | |
14:07 | i've already tested it on dextrose and runs fine. | |
14:07 | bernie | dirakx: martin langhoff's team is working on fixing the wikipedia activity |
14:08 | dirakx | bernie: yep. |
14:08 | it's now almost fixed. | |
14:08 | bernie | dirakx: they seem to have finished: http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/10510 |
14:09 | alsroot | dirakx: btw, did you talk w/ m_anish_afk and tch about taking responsibility to maintain dx activitiy collection on aslo? |
14:09 | dirakx | alsroot: oh..not yet. |
14:09 | alsroot | it should be natural since you are taking care about activities.. |
14:09 | dirakx | that should be an action for me ;). |
14:10 | bernie | dirakx: can you upload it to aslo pls? |
14:10 | dirakx | bernie: sure. |
14:10 | bernie | alsroot: +1 for dirakx activitymaster |
14:10 | dirakx | bernie: i was expecting a minor patch. and then it has to go to aslo. |
14:10 | bernie | dirakx: nice. did they rebundle also the spanish version? |
14:11 | dirakx | bernie: indeed. |
14:11 | I've been working also with NZ team reports..and follow trough their requests | |
14:12 | also with devs at ceibaljam... | |
14:12 | with certain limits we should be able to suport them someway. | |
14:13 | and also i've been un-tangling up pootle..the dextrose project is up but it needs some symlinks that saya's code was doing..but failling now. | |
14:14 | I've talked with him, he kindly said to me that he would take a look at it today or tomorrow. | |
14:15 | I have work to do..in fixing some measure bugs and also tamtam not fitting xo-screen well on rotation. | |
14:15 | fitting it is also a recurrent requeriment for activities. | |
14:16 | alsroot | dirakx: that will be not so trivial, at least for Edit :( |
14:16 | dirakx | :(. |
14:16 | alsroot | guesses that everyone (including people who afk) are +1 for making dirakx activity master on aslo to take case of dx collection |
14:16 | any -1? | |
14:18 | #action dirakx is activity master to take care of dextrose collection on ASLO, at least for common one, further interaction is needed to with onsite people to shake it(or new collection) down for local deploymnets | |
14:18 | dirakx | great. |
14:19 | alsroot | dirakx: for now, we use fructose on activity-testing.sl.o to test activity updater code, but it will be moved to production and we need to create new collection, for dextrose |
14:19 | dirakx | alsroot: ok. |
14:19 | alsroot: i'll follow with you on that. | |
14:20 | if necessary. | |
14:20 | alsroot | dirakx: I'm waiting for m_anish_afk "go ahead" for moving aslo code to production |
14:20 | it seems that nubae is not used for regular meetings yet.. | |
14:21 | dirakx | alsroot: there are some minor issues on admins/editor interface on activities-testing |
14:21 | alsroot: besides from that it's o.k | |
14:22 | alsroot: btw how can i test activity-updater..(microformat) ?. | |
14:22 | alsroot | dirakx: for admin/editor UI, we are switcing to new ASLO anyway these months. good chance to revisit this issue |
14:22 | dirakx | right. |
14:22 | alsroot | dirakx: dx-2 already has microformat updater |
14:22 | just run it, it will look to fructose collection on -testing.sl.o | |
14:23 | dirakx | hmm ok |
14:23 | alsroot | dirakx: you can add new activities and/or set particular version for them to fetch only this verstion |
14:24 | dirakx | great. |
14:24 | alsroot | dirakx: but contact w/ m_anish_afk, he uses fructose on -testing in the field right now |
14:25 | #topic how dx-2 patches are flying to the trunk, short summary | |
14:25 | passes the word to silbe | |
14:25 | dfarning | alsroot, can you introduce dirakx to your contacts at Mozilla so he can start tracking upstream AMO development.? If necessary we can add a web developer to help with the transition if you and dirakx are too busy. |
14:25 | silbe | what's "trunk"? |
14:25 | alsroot | silbe: yup, from branches |
14:25 | silbe | ?? |
14:25 | alsroot | to master repos |
14:26 | silbe | ah, you mean merging the improved DX-2 patches to upstream mainline/master? |
14:27 | alsroot | dfarning: I didn't contact with mozilla people for months, but will take a look, especially about transaltion.. |
14:27 | silbe: yup, are there any ideas/progress | |
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14:28 | silbe | Simon and I finally agreed on how to proceed re. 0.92 and the new OLPC release resp. DX-3, so I can finally push the patches (I had put them on hold to avoid one of them being the cause for OLPC not basing on 0.92). |
14:28 | dfarning | alsroot, thanks |
14:28 | bernie | silbe: cool. so, will the release be called 0.92 or 0.90.1? |
14:28 | silbe | I still need reviews for these patches before I can push them: https://patchwork.sugarlabs.org/patch/169/ https://patchwork.sugarlabs.org/patch/596/ https://patchwork.sugarlabs.org/patch/616/ https://patchwork.sugarlabs.org/patch/612/ https://patchwork.sugarlabs.org/patch/597/ |
14:29 | bernie: probably 0.92.0. | |
14:29 | bernie | silbe: k |
14:29 | silbe | We'll also keep downstream repos and only push bug fixes into sucrose-0.92. |
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14:29 | silbe | I have a feeling my recent chat with dsd played a major factor in that decision. :) |
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14:29 | alsroot | silbe: will take a look, if can help w/ patches you posted |
14:30 | m_anish | (just woken up) |
14:30 | bernie | silbe: 597 is nice! |
14:30 | arjs | m_anish: morningt |
14:31 | bernie | silbe: also #612! compliments |
14:31 | dirakx | m_anish: morning |
14:31 | bernie | arjs: 'morning |
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14:31 | silbe | bernie: please review it. Aleksey already said he doesn't have time. I've asked Quozl some time back; maybe I should ping him again. |
14:31 | arjs | bernie: morning! hows it going |
14:32 | alsroot | m_anish: since dirakx is working on activity bug fixing, would be great if he takes care about dx aslo collections.. so he is :) |
14:32 | silbe | and maybe lucian could review https://patchwork.sugarlabs.org/patch/619/ ? |
14:32 | bernie | silbe: i'm very glad that, for the first time, olpc is going with the same Sugar version that sugar labs published. |
14:32 | dirakx | arjs: good to see you here ;) |
14:32 | dfarning | silbe, alsroot speaking of merging.... Are there any other interesting trees that can be harvested? IIRC mstone has one. |
14:32 | silbe | bernie: +10 |
14:32 | lucian | btw, sorry i've been missing. very busy |
14:32 | m_anish | morning everyone |
14:32 | alsroot, ok | |
14:33 | arjs | dirakx: same here:) pretty exciting work with regard to activities that you are doing :) |
14:33 | m_anish | alsroot, we've found some pretty wierd bugs and the formadores have reported some bugs to us as well |
14:33 | lucian | silbe: that patch doesn't sound very safe |
14:33 | dirakx | arjs: thanks..btw measure is involved :)!. |
14:34 | alsroot | m_anish: via feedback, can I see the log? |
14:34 | m_anish | alsroot, nope, we were in caacupe yesterday in a meeting with formadores |
14:34 | silbe | dfarning: for 0.94 I'm going to go the "sugar-core" (merged repositories) route. After we did that, we could take a closer look at Michaels repository (it's a merged one, too). For 0.92 it's probably too late, unless it's a bug fix. |
14:34 | bernie | silbe: +1 |
14:34 | m_anish: do you have some notes on these bugs? | |
14:34 | alsroot | m_anish: could you post reports to dextrose@ |
14:35 | m_anish | alsroot, btw the updater works, since they were asking about a strange icon with '?!' appearing out of nowhere :) |
14:35 | bernie, yep | |
14:35 | alsroot, ok | |
14:35 | bernie | silbe: m_stone also has a script that recreates his repo on the fly. so it's always fresh |
14:35 | silbe | lucian: ok, maybe we could chat on #sugar later about why you think it isn't safe? Would you have some time? |
14:35 | lucian | silbe: today, yes |
14:35 | silbe | bernie: Interesting. Where does he put his own custom patches then? |
14:35 | lucian: great, thanks! | |
14:36 | bernie | m_anish: did you take logs and journals from the machines with weird bugs? |
14:36 | dfarning | silbe, let's activitly look for trees. There is a lot of good stuff out there that looks useful if it can be cleaned up and merged. |
14:36 | m_anish | will wait for current topic to get over |
14:36 | bernie | lucian: btw, is there any chance we could involve you in finishing Surf for Dextrose 3? now we have fedora 14, so all the deps should be there |
14:37 | lucian | bernie: if the deps are there and i find the time, sure |
14:37 | bernie | lucian: i'll ask SMParrish to make sure the deps are there |
14:38 | m_anish: sorry to interrupt you, please go ahead | |
14:38 | silbe | dfarning: if you can point out some trees (I don't think Michael uses git.sugarlabs.org for his, so I can't easily "discover" it), I'll try to set some kind of commit notification up so I notice new patches in those repos. |
14:38 | lucian | bernie: by 'deps' i mean pygobject with gobject-introspection. Surf can't be complete without a libsoup binding |
14:38 | bernie | silbe: he does use git.sugarlabs.org now |
14:38 | silbe | bernie: oh, cool. |
14:39 | dfarning | silbe, I'll poke around |
14:39 | silbe | alsroot: is there a way to let gitorious mail me patches that get pushed to some repo? |
14:39 | dfarning: thanks! | |
14:39 | m_anish | bernie, well they showed me the bugs on my xo, so I didn't really take the journal or logs, also some of them are more like 'UI changes' rather than 'bugs' |
14:40 | alsroot | silbe: yup, go to your dashboard and click "Mail notification" or so |
14:40 | silbe | alsroot: great, will try it! |
14:40 | m_anish | bernie, but, /me discovered a few bugs that probably affect mainline sugar as well |
14:41 | bernie | m_anish: which ui changes did they not like? (they never do, initially... then after a while they get used to it and like it more the new way) |
14:41 | silbe | I guess we're done with this topic for now. I'll take a look at the recent DX-2 patches (there seem to be a lot of them) and see if there's anything that qualifies for getting upstreamed. (a lot of what I've seen fly by didn't, at least not in its current form) |
14:41 | alsroot | ok, I guess this (upstream/downstream) is huge, but we have one more topic to discuss |
14:41 | #topic Dextrose projects admin on git.sugarlabs.org | |
14:42 | my ideas was to have such admin(one person) who will be aware of all dx related projects/repos on git.sl.o | |
14:42 | and would be useful to have one of newcomers | |
14:42 | dirakx | alsroot: what taks would be involved? |
14:42 | tasks* | |
14:42 | bernie | alsroot: i could take this... |
14:42 | m_anish | bernie, UI changes in activities... for example in Paint, moving from version 27 to 31, there have been major bug fixes, but the UI has changed somewhat. They were reporting it as missing a palette selection icon |
14:43 | alsroot | dirakx: just taking care of dextrose team on git.sl.o, add new members, ping projects owners of dx projects to pass ownerhip to dx team (to collect all projects in one place), I think.. |
14:44 | m_anish | bernie, or in turtleart, pressing the clear button clear's the grid as well (probably it didn't earlier), /me will check |
14:44 | bernie, but some were genuine | |
14:44 | alsroot | dirakx: if you are planing to be busy for actiivgty relates tasks, maybe arjs? ie would be useful to have dx duties spread among all dx contribs |
14:45 | dirakx | alsroot: i can do it also..but bernie already step in. |
14:45 | m_anish | bernie, and one is a little scary... after suspend/resume my keyboard/touchpad doesn't work! |
14:45 | alsroot | bernie: what about arjs? |
14:45 | bernie | m_anish: at least it shows that they actually used the activities |
14:46 | m_anish | bernie, apart from the nitpicky wierd bugs i've discovered with the platform, this is the only serious platform issue seen |
14:46 | bernie, yep | |
14:46 | bernie | dirakx: i'm ok with you doing it |
14:46 | silbe | m_anish: check that you have the latest (non-beta) firmware and latest kernel. (re. suspend/resume) |
14:46 | m_anish | silbe, ok |
14:47 | dirakx | alsroot,bernie i can do it |
14:47 | silbe | m_anish: BTW, is this on XO-1 or XO-1.5? |
14:48 | m_anish | silbe, the suspend/resume thing is on xo1 |
14:48 | bernie | #action dirakx becomes dextrose team admin on git.sugarlabs.org |
14:49 | alsroot | ok, I guess we cloed agenda... |
14:49 | silbe | m_anish: then a firmware upgrade might do the trick. There was some related bug that got fixed recently... |
14:49 | m_anish | silbe, oh great! |
14:50 | alsroot | dirakx: I'll downgarade all dx team members on git to regular contributors and leave you as an admin |
14:51 | dirakx | alsroot: perfect. |
14:51 | alsroot | bernie: I guess we need to pass dx project ownership to dx team |
14:51 | bernie: in that case we will see all dx related project on team page | |
14:51 | would be useful | |
14:51 | bernie | alsroot: ah yes. |
14:52 | alsroot: go ahead... no need to add back committers who did not commit anything in the last few months. | |
14:53 | alsroot | bernie: ok, I'll just leave only +dextrose as only committer to dx project |
14:53 | #action move dextrose git project to dextrose team | |
14:54 | #e-n-d-m-e-e-t-i-n-g | |
14:54 | meeting | Meeting ended Sat Feb 5 14:54:13 2011 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. (v 0.1.4) |
14:54 | Minutes: http://meeting.sugarlabs.org/s[…]-05T14:04:06.html | |
14:54 | Log: http://meeting.sugarlabs.org/s[…]11-02-05T14:04:06 | |
14:54 | bernie | alsroot: why is endmeeting with all dashes now? |
14:54 | m_anish | meeting over? |
14:54 | meeting | m_anish: Error: "over?" is not a valid command. |
14:54 | alsroot | just tested meeting code |
14:55 | m_anish: you mean you are keen to know is there life on mars or not? | |
14:55 | bernie | alsroot: hey, the "full logs" links in the meeting minutes don't work |
14:55 | dirakx | :) |
14:56 | m_anish | lol, actually the chances are probably higher on saturns moons, but /me will shut up and listen :P |
14:56 | alsroot | bernie: you mean "http://meeting.sugarlabs.org/s[…]11-02-05T14:04:06" ? |
14:56 | silbe | alsroot, m_anish: I'd volunteer to be on-site developer for that deployment. ;) |
14:57 | dfarning | silbe, does the university there have an exchange program for your girlfriend? |
14:57 | m_anish | silbe, haha , they speak a dialect of klingon and anime over there |
14:58 | dirakx | hehe. |
14:58 | bernie | alsroot: no, click on "full logs" in this page: http://meeting.sugarlabs.org/s[…]-05T14:04:06.html |
14:59 | alsroot | bernie: works for me, the only thing that doesn't work is per entry links on minutes page.. |
14:59 | bernie | alsroot: oh, it's a bug in chromium! |
14:59 | alsroot: it inserts a %32 before the "2011"! | |
15:01 | alsroot | looks like bug.. |
15:02 | silbe | dfarning: I suppose we could arrange something if she actually went on an interplanetary journey ;) |
15:04 | dirakx | goes for some minutes. |
15:21 | satellit_ | alsroot: got 20 updates to Trisquel4.5 with CP/software update some did not work or did not start: http://pastebin.com/LKinAJB8 |
15:21 | sweets sugar 0.88.1 | |
15:26 | alsroot | satellit_: for read, it might be because sweets-distribution-0.88 was tested on Trisquel4 |
15:26 | satellit_: could you pastebin logs for Etoys and Flip Sticks? | |
15:27 | satellit_: GC and TamTam, most likely the old issue w/ blobs | |
15:27 | satellit_ | alsroot: there were new applicatons on the software update. I never have seen new applications added that were not already installed |
15:28 | let me bring it up...back in a few | |
15:28 | alsroot | satellit_: dx uses another updater, it fetches activities only from particular collection on aslo |
15:28 | satellit_ | So it seems. Is it normal to bring in non installed applications? |
15:29 | alsroot | satellit_: yup, thats the feature of dx updater |
15:29 | satellit_ | there are now 30 +- on it |
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15:30 | alsroot | satellit_: for GC and TamTam blobs, I think would be useful to stick sweets-distribution-0.88 only to trisquel-4/ubuntu-10.04, I'll recheck if these blobs run well there |
15:30 | satellit_ | Terminal (Works but icon on top bar to go to # does not work- This is Ubuntu; COMMAND SHOULD BE "SUDO SU"..) not su. # Terminal crashes if use top icon for # is used |
15:31 | alsroot | satellit_: hmm, it was ok for me on lucid, /me rechecks |
15:33 | silbe | satellit_: probably "sudo -i". I have no idea who originally started the "sudo su" usage, but it's... odd. :) (both commands serve a very similar purpose; using either of them suffices). |
15:33 | satellit_ | Terminal -31 installed do not know if updated when cp/update used |
15:34 | alsroot | heh, Terminal root doesn't work on lucid as well |
15:35 | satellit_ | interesting... |
15:35 | alsroot | nope, it works but activity is being cloned on wrong root password |
15:35 | *closed | |
15:36 | which is, I guess, how it is coded | |
15:36 | satellit_ | my vm is installed with a root password the same as users here |
15:37 | silbe | wonders if we should get rid of the get-root button and just add a note to motd. |
15:37 | satellit_ | ( I think) done too many VM builds lately |
15:38 | silbe | The get-root button destroys the current shell which might have something running in it - happened to me at least once, and to others as well AFAIK. |
15:39 | alsroot | satellit_: since sweets-distribution just packages activities w/o patching, could you file tickets on bugs.sl.o for activity bugs |
15:39 | satellit_ | ok |
15:40 | TamTamMini cannot find proper binary blobs" | |
15:41 | VM will not let me use a USB so cannot pastebin | |
15:42 | G Compris 15 tries to download but quits after 1 second. never installs it | |
15:46 | Scratch-20100321 Could not open the Squeek image file '-vm-display-X11' | |
15:49 | Etoys: could not open the Squeek image file '-encoding' | |
15:51 | (etoys) top line "found gettext in path /opt/sweets/etoys " | |
15:53 | alsroot | satellit_: you are still on trisquel-4.5? |
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16:00 | satellit_ | yes |
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16:01 | satellit_ | alsroot: I was starting to build a Trisquel 4.0 with sugar sweets 0.88.1 |
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16:02 | alsroot | satellit_: Trisquel-4.5 is based on ubuntu-10.10, so sweets-distribution-0.88 might not work there |
16:02 | just found that | |
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16:03 | satellit_ | But in About my Computer: It says Trisquel 4.5 LTS 10.10 is not a LTS version....? |
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16:12 | satellit_ | alsroot: It will take 3-4 hrs to make new VM with Trisquel 4.0 with sweets 0.88.1 will report when done.... : ) |
16:13 | alsroot | satellit_: np, thanks |
16:13 | satellit_ | yw |
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20:35 | satellit_ | alsroot: I did install of gcompris15; g compris 15 admin and ooOKids1.0 to Trisquel 4.0. sweets0.88.1 VM by drag drop from USB to journal. they run fine. |
20:37 | alsroot | satellit_: ok. btw issue w/ tamtam is lack of dependencies, will fix it |
20:37 | satellit_ | I note that the file downloaded from CP/software update is called GCompris-15 while mine is gcompris-15.xo note caps. |
20:37 | great | |
20:46 | Backup and restore to/from journal to USB seem to work also. : ) | |
20:47 | backup-4.xo and restore-3.xo | |
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22:11 | satellit_ | alsroot: Trisquel 4.0 update sweets-etoys sweets-distribution sweets-squeek (new install) |
22:14 | alsroot | satellit_: that doesn't work yet |
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