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| 21:01 | pflores | hi guys! |
| 21:01 | is everybody in? :) | |
| 21:02 | alsroot | here |
| 21:02 | JT4sugar | Hello All |
| 21:02 | dfarning | is listening. |
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| 21:04 | pflores | Ok, I see a lot of people in the channel, so while people gets into the party let me make a brief introduction to begin the discussion |
| 21:05 | silbe | listening now |
| 21:05 | pflores | As I said in my mail, now I'm working for AC, but I've been involved with olpc/sugar since 2007, when Plan Ceibal began |
| 21:05 | silbe | pflores: how about #startmeeting so we get nice minutes? |
| 21:06 | pflores | silbe: good, I'm not too experienced in conducting IRC meetings so I follow your suggestions |
| 21:06 | #startmeeting | |
| 21:06 | meeting | Meeting started Wed Jan 26 21:06:33 2011 UTC. The chair is pflores. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
| 21:06 | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #endmeeting | |
| 21:07 | pflores | ok, now we officially started :) |
| 21:07 | As I said in my mail, now I'm working for AC, but I've been involved with olpc/sugar since 2007, when Plan Ceibal began | |
| 21:08 | In this new stage the goal is the same: work for making the community strong to work on deployment's needs | |
| 21:10 | AC is a new player here, a different one because it has a commercial approach. However, AC needs a strong community for making sugar successful and olpc deployments successful... Otherwise AC wouldn't survive | |
| 21:10 | So we all share some goals | |
| 21:11 | I'm personally very concerned in growing the community and making life easier for newcommers | |
| 21:11 | FGrose | http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/User:Pflores |
| 21:12 | pflores | So, that's the kind of things I'm proposing to discuss |
| 21:12 | silbe | #link http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/User:Pflores |
| 21:13 | pflores | AC has the ability to catalyze some projects, for instance, putting part of its team to work on them. |
| 21:14 | So far so good? Can we start with the points of the agenda? | |
| 21:14 | silbe | can you paste the agenda so we have an overview? |
| 21:15 | alsroot | pflores: use #topic to set current agenda item to disucss |
| 21:15 | pflores | Agenda: |
| 21:15 | 1. Centralized Authentication Service? | |
| 21:15 | 2. Metadata (taxonomy, hashtags, ...) | |
| 21:15 | 3. Users tracker (throughout different platflorms) | |
| 21:15 | 4. Aggregating information (feeds, archives, logs, tweets, ...) | |
| 21:15 | 5. Search tools | |
| 21:15 | #topic CAS | |
| 21:16 | I put a question mark at the end of the topic as I think it's mostly a question | |
| 21:16 | walterbender | pflores: I will lobby for 6. a portal for sharing |
| 21:16 | pflores | Can/should we work in a centralized authentication? |
| 21:17 | walterbender: good! Other topics accepted :) | |
| 21:17 | alsroot | thinks it that CAS will be really useful, even within SL sites, but it will be especially useful having it for many sugar related sites |
| 21:17 | s/sites/orgs/ | |
| 21:18 | silbe | pflores: We already are working on it. The question I find more interesting is: Is the current multitude of accounts considered a significant obstacle in participating at Sugar Labs? Should we give it priority over other tasks? |
| 21:18 | pflores | alsroot: +1 |
| 21:19 | silbe: I think you're working in single sign on solution for sugarlabs.org, but also for other organizations? | |
| 21:19 | walterbender | pflores: who is the audience for #1? Developers? Teachers? |
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| 21:20 | pflores | For instance, could ceibalJAM users use the same login with the solution you're developing? |
| 21:20 | silbe | e.g. I'm working on seamless / automatic logins from within Browse, but as a "spare time" project (=> proceeding very slowly). Should I work more on that and less on other things? |
| 21:20 | dogi | lurks |
| 21:20 | alsroot | walterbender: I thinks just any sugar related sites, having CAS will mean more convenient usage for all people, also it will get use centralized users directory.. |
| 21:20 | pflores | walterbender: I'd ideally think in the whole community, which includes developers, teachers, artists, whoever... Anyway we should work step by step |
| 21:21 | silbe | pflores: I'll skip the details and say: yes, they can. |
| 21:21 | alsroot | even within SL we have wiki/activities/git/bugs ... |
| 21:22 | walterbender | pflores: I was asking in hope of getting some insight into silbe's question about priorities... |
| 21:23 | silbe | (the details are which services they use, who hosts them, who maintains them, the amount of work required to implement it in each and every individual service) |
| 21:23 | alsroot | silbe: I guess before asking these questions, we need to find someone who can answer :) |
| 21:23 | pflores | My opinion is that having to register in different systems makes it somehow difficult for newcommers to get involved in projects and giving feedback |
| 21:24 | alsroot | pflores: you said you satrted from ceibal, what you think about inviting caibal peopel to this initiative |
| 21:24 | walterbender | pflores: In my limited experience, even though it is a pain, not having a unified log in is not a deterrent for a developer... and most teachers don't know how to use open-id |
| 21:24 | silbe | alsroot: I'm asking pflores specifically based on his stated background (Plan Ceibal, CeibalJAM!). |
| 21:25 | pflores | alsroot: I guess ceibal people won't be much interested. Maybe some ceibalJAM vounteers could be interested |
| 21:26 | alsroot | pflores: for "won't" you mean social or tech issues (solving technical issues is not a problem..)? |
| 21:26 | pflores | walterbender: I'd really like something easier than openId, a service for just loging in once and then move around tools seamlessly |
| 21:27 | FGrose | Like XO <-> XS communications... |
| 21:28 | pflores | alsroot: political issues :) So far Ceibal hasn't been much interested in working with the community. why would they be interested now in working FOR the community? |
| 21:28 | silbe | walterbender: when my solution is fully deployed, they don't even need OpenID. The sites will greet them as new contributors on first usage and ask them to provide a few details. On subsequent visits all SL sites will "remember" them; no explicit login required. (at least with Browse) |
| 21:28 | CanoeBerry | Apologies! |
| 21:28 | alsroot | also, CAS is a good chance to work on connecting sugar related communities.. |
| 21:28 | CanoeBerry | Catching up. |
| 21:28 | pflores | silbe: what about other browsers? |
| 21:29 | silbe | pflores: depends on the browsers. Some behave in ways that wouldn't be exactly user friendly. :-/ |
| 21:29 | alsroot | silbe: I particular tech detaild is not a problem at the end... we need a wish from several sugar communities to support this feature at first |
| 21:30 | *I guess | |
| 21:30 | pflores | alsroot: can you speak your mind? |
| 21:30 | silbe | (turn up "scary" dialogs to "select your certificate") |
| 21:31 | pflores | silbe: Maybe we can have a "suggested" browser for best user experience... |
| 21:31 | alsroot | pflores: I meant that having CAS for sites of several sugar orgs, means 1) having central users directory, 2) admins from several org working on the same infra (only for auth) |
| 21:32 | silbe | pflores: IIRC it would work with Iceweasel (Firefox). That one's pretty widespread anyway. |
| 21:32 | pflores | walterbender: having a central users directory isn't part of your idea of #6? |
| 21:32 | silbe: chrome? | |
| 21:32 | walterbender | pflores: I was hoping we could just use the public_key in Sugar |
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| 21:33 | walterbender | pflores: we could use it for your problem #1 as well |
| 21:33 | silbe | pflores: I guess #6 is like a.sl.o, just for non-activity stuff? |
| 21:34 | walterbender | silbe: alsroot and I have been discussing this one for a while... could be an extension of ASLO |
| 21:34 | pflores | silbe: ask walter ;) |
| 21:34 | silbe | walterbender: that's almost my plan, BTW (except that I recently decided not to recycle the current "Sugar" key and instead create a new one specifically for Browse, for technical reasons) |
| 21:34 | walterbender | silbe: will that key be auto-generated for Sugar users? |
| 21:35 | silbe: then it can be transparent | |
| 21:35 | alsroot | walterbender: public_key is just a detail of impl, CAS is more general. eg, even w/ public_key implemented we need central user durectory (eg for authorization) |
| 21:35 | silbe | walterbender: Sounds like a good fit to me. IIRC a.sl.o already has rating (by users) etc.? |
| 21:35 | walterbender | silbe: yes... ratings/comments |
| 21:36 | silbe: and a maintainer :P | |
| 21:36 | silbe | walterbender: I already have a local patch for the autogeneration, I just can't test it right now because something's broken on sunjammer w.r.t. SSL :( |
| 21:36 | (well, I have tested the generation obviously, but I can't test operation with the key) | |
| 21:37 | alsroot | thinks meeting is turning to duscuss sunjammer tech issues rather that community relates tasks |
| 21:37 | walterbender | silbe: but we had been holding off making big changes to ALSO in anticipation of Mozilla plans |
| 21:37 | silbe | alsroot: +1 |
| 21:37 | pflores | the centralized authentication looks to be a solution for the current difficulty for taking a quick look at different information there's now (even more for newcomers). |
| 21:37 | alsroot: +1 | |
| 21:38 | alsroot | also we can't change the world, peopel will use non-sugar envs to visit sugar resources |
| 21:38 | walterbender | pflores: where in our infrastructure do you need to authenticate to "look"??? |
| 21:39 | pflores | The final goal is to make working with the community easier |
| 21:40 | alsroot | pflores: +1, having "start sugar/Browse" to visit activitieis.sl.o won't be useful |
| 21:40 | especially for wiki | |
| 21:41 | silbe | alsroot: I didn't (mean to) say people need to use Browse, just that it will work perfectly with Browse and depending on the actual browser it might range from almost-perfect to confusing. |
| 21:42 | pflores: so you think that it is a significant obstacle to participation and we should work on improving it? | |
| 21:42 | pflores | That's a good point walter: In one side it would be good to have better interfaces to look what's happening around, where some topics were discussed, etc. Then, we should promote users to participate, which straightforward be as simple as posssible. |
| 21:42 | silbe | If so, I will do a write-up of my planned solution so other people may be able to help out with parts of it. |
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| 21:43 | pflores | silbe: I think so. What I'm not sure if it's the first step we should take. Indeed, probably we should work on some other tools before |
| 21:43 | walterbender | pflores: I think a big boost to participation would be more efforts like alsroot's integration of the translation into our meeting bots and expanding the web interfaces to our IRC channels... |
| 21:44 | silbe | BTW, I think we should wrap up and move on to the next topic. We already spent half an hour on the first of six topics. |
| 21:44 | walterbender | pflores: what do you think about autotranslation of some of the mailing lists? sur->sur-en and iaep->iaep-es ? |
| 21:44 | pflores | silbe: +1 |
| 21:45 | silbe | pflores: ok. This is a relatively slow-moving target partly due to the client (i.e. Browser) side. So it might make sense to do at least some of the work early. |
| 21:45 | pflores | I put a list of 5 ideas for the community. But we probably can brainstorm 100 |
| 21:46 | silbe | pflores: e.g. testing how Chrome behaves :) |
| 21:46 | walterbender: +2 | |
| 21:46 | pflores | maybe we should take note of the ideas and try to priorize them |
| 21:47 | silbe | the machine translation isn't good, but it's a good start |
| 21:48 | use #idea for the ideas and it'll get included in the minutes | |
| 21:48 | we can think about priorities the listed idea till the next meeting | |
| 21:49 | pflores | I think we have too many topics for just one meeting. I propose take a quick look at the 5+1 proposed points in the next half hour and continue the discussion next week |
| 21:49 | Agree? | |
| 21:50 | (BTW walterbender: I really like your idea :) ) | |
| 21:51 | silbe | how about "#agreed The current multitude of accounts for services at Sugar Labs (and related organisations) is considered an obstacle to participation. We should work on a seamless / automatic log-in system, though the priority of this is not yet clear."? |
| 21:51 | pflores | silbe: +1 |
| 21:52 | silbe | walterbender: who exactly would be the target of that work? |
| 21:52 | walterbender | silbe: I don't there is much cross pollination between the two lists. |
| 21:53 | silbe | (it's very likely a good idea for a part of the community we want to reach, I'd just like us to be explicit about it as it helps coming up with more ideas) |
| 21:53 | walterbender | silbe: but I think there would be interest in hearing what the teachers on sur discuss... |
| 21:54 | pflores | Ok, let's move to the next topic |
| 21:54 | silbe | walterbender: ah, I'm too slow. Was referring to 22:43 ("more efforts like"). |
| 21:54 | pflores | #topic metadata |
| 21:54 | silbe | FWIW, we already have a web-to-IRC gateway and IRC translation, both courtesy of alsroot |
| 21:55 | pflores: so no #agreed? | |
| 21:55 | pflores | There's a lot of valuable information in different places: mailing lists, wikis, blogs, ... |
| 21:55 | silbe: I agree but no one else did :( | |
| 21:56 | alsroot | in my mind it depends on central users directory, having bunch on emails/blobg/etc and not having a chance to say if they are from the same person.. |
| 21:56 | pflores | alsroot: that's a big part of the problem |
| 21:57 | silbe | alsroot: I don't think it's a blocker. Each service can have optional links to other services. It's a bit of a privacy issue, too... |
| 21:57 | alsroot | but it relates to 1) |
| 21:58 | silbe | pflores: hmmk (agreement) |
| 21:58 | pflores | but it also would be good to, for instance, find the trends of the discussions in the mailing lists of the community, or easily find where there are teacher's suggestions for using turtleart, for instance |
| 21:59 | We also don't have agreed good hashtags for twitter for instance... | |
| 21:59 | silbe | pflores: Do you have any ideas how to achieve some part of that? It's a hard problem... |
| 22:01 | walterbender's Sugar Digest is a good start, BTW. I could imagine various people creating "digests" for parts of the community. | |
| 22:01 | pflores | silbe: I agree it's very hard. I think the first step would be agreeing some standard tags |
| 22:01 | you think it could be possible? | |
| 22:02 | silbe | E.g. someone pointing out interesting teaching related topics on planet.sl.o by posting to iaep. |
| 22:02 | pflores | walterbender: what you think? |
| 22:02 | silbe | pflores: what do you mean by tag? How would they be used? |
| 22:02 | walterbender | pflores: I'd love contributions to the Digest and to the Planet... we are missing so many cool blogs from teachers |
| 22:04 | pflores | would it make sense using some kind of hashtags in the mailing lists to aggregate the information later? |
| 22:04 | silbe | I'm not sure automatic aggregation would work well enough to be worth it. |
| 22:05 | pflores | walterbender: The question is: how to make it? Should teachers mail you when they have a cool post? should we add all the teacher's blogs to the planet? I really don't think it scales very much... |
| 22:06 | silbe: why? | |
| 22:06 | silbe | And where would you put them? We can use [topic] tags in the subject (already do so for some topics and even haven filters defined so people can receive or filter out certain topics), but multiple tags would blow up the line. |
| 22:07 | pflores | I would really love to have a centralized aggregator where I could see at a glance what's happening around in the community :) |
| 22:07 | silbe | pflores: ^^. And a single tag often doesn't describe a post well enough. |
| 22:07 | pflores: everybody would love to. It's the holy grail. :) | |
| 22:07 | pflores | :) |
| 22:08 | how about using something like the twitter approach, putting #hach before keywords? | |
| 22:09 | walterbender | pflores: I used to advertise for things to include in the Digest, but very rarely got anything. I try to cherry-pick from interesting posts, blogs, etc., but it is a lot of work. |
| 22:09 | pflores | Why not an aggregator for feeds, mailing lists archives, tweets... ? |
| 22:09 | JT4sugar | My suggestion for information around Teaching is to have information separated into Age/Grade level. A 2nd grade teacher will not be looking for same information as 5th grade. IAEP is to general for them to use directly in class rooms. If forums were built around using Sugar at particular age level more teachers would be apt to engage because info is applicable to their age students |
| 22:10 | silbe | FWIW, I'd like us to talk more about who we want to involve and how to achieve that. I feel we're still a touch too technology centered, as usual for us. |
| 22:10 | pflores | walterbender: That's exactly my point: tools for automating this kind of work... and make it more customized to each user's profile... |
| 22:11 | silbe | pflores: how exactly would that aggregator work (from the users PoV, not the implementation)? What would it show? |
| 22:11 | pflores | JT4sugar: +1 that's the kind of "standard tags" I'd love to have |
| 22:12 | silbe | JT4sugar: interesting idea. |
| 22:12 | JT4sugar | pflores, Think of building your system from classroom back to developer as opposed to developer to classroom |
| 22:12 | pflores | silbe: how abut something like a twitter window, with links? |
| 22:13 | silbe | pflores: no idea, I've never used twitter. |
| 22:13 | (so please be more specific ;) ) | |
| 22:14 | pflores | silbe: having quick headlines of each topic |
| 22:14 | let me give you an example | |
| 22:14 | silbe | is starting to feel he's leading the discussion and everyone else just answers, and feels bad about it... |
| 22:15 | pflores | having in a web page the subject lines of the topics that are being discussed in all the mailing lists |
| 22:16 | with additional info | |
| 22:16 | like the keywords of each | |
| 22:16 | silbe | pflores: the problem is that threads usually start with something that might match the subject, but often evolve into a totally different (and potentially interesting) topic without anyone changing the subject line. So an automatic aggregator only captures a small part of what's actually discussed. |
| 22:17 | pflores | and easily follow links to see other threads that talk about the same issues |
| 22:17 | silbe | pflores: where would those keywords come from? |
| 22:17 | pflores | silbe: that's why I find keywords impotant |
| 22:17 | FGrose | Community needs to share/maintain list of known blogs, so bloggers can screen and promote what they find interesting (adding to the 'network effect'). And in their forwards, they can apply tags. |
| 22:18 | JT4sugar | pflores, How about a web page for each grade/age level-helps teachers and then an aggregator for others who just want big picture overview |
| 22:18 | pflores | FGrose +1 !! |
| 22:19 | JT4sugar: That would be excelent. For educational issues is quite simple to use a standard set of tags | |
| 22:21 | I think some good ideas are arising here | |
| 22:22 | #idea think the meeting has been long enough, maybe we should summarize somehow what was discussed and continue next week | |
| 22:22 | silbe | agreed :) |
| 22:23 | can you change #topic? | |
| 22:23 | pflores | #topic summary |
| 22:24 | silbe | #action silbe will write up an overview of how his imagined "seamless login" system is going to work, so others are able to join the effort if they like to. |
| 22:25 | pflores | We discussed about CAS, metadata, aggregating info and search tools (topics 1, 2, 4 and 5). They all look important and should be discussed more. |
| 22:26 | #action pflores will summarize some of the ideas discussed and send it to iaep | |
| 22:26 | walterbender: can you tell some headlines of your #6 idea? | |
| 22:26 | CanoeBerry: some feedback? | |
| 22:27 | FGrose | walterbender: can you point to links to "so many cool blogs"? |
| 22:31 | JT4sugar | By the way we have a MIT MarketLab presentation on Friday 28th at 3:30pmEST. The Team will be relaying their semester long research and recommendations for Sugar Labs(Teacher awareness was key theme) if anyone is interested in listening in email me: jtis4stxhotmail.com for call in# Pablo think this would be very good for your efforts |
| 22:32 | silbe | sounds rather interesting. Will there be a summary and/or recordings for those who can't join in? |
| 22:32 | walterbender | FGrose: I can dig up some... the teachers in Caacupe, for example... |
| 22:33 | pflores | JT4sugar: I'm interested! |
| 22:33 | silbe | walterbender: maybe you could put that list on the wiki, with a short summary of what topics each blog has covered in the past? |
| 22:33 | JT4sugar | silbe, They are setting up Google site with all research and findings which we should get links on Friday-Dont believe a recording but we will be pushing for a wider community presentation if they are willing |
| 22:34 | walterbender | silbe: it is a bit more random than that. I stumble across blogs from teachers now and again and always invite them to add them to the planet... doesn't often happen though |
| 22:34 | silbe | and maybe suggest them to join the SL planet - not sure what's on topic there, but I guess most would qualify. |
| 22:35 | JT4sugar: what exactly is a "Google site" in this context? | |
| 22:35 | is totally out of touch with the "Web 2.0" world | |
| 22:36 | walterbender: I could still imagine it to be useful. But maybe you're right and it's too random. | |
| 22:36 | FGrose | collect the pool of orbiting comets that might get promoted to "planets"... |
| 22:36 | JT4sugar | silbe, Believe it will be a google docs site with all research, interviews, etc. but I haven't seen it yet so not totally sure of full makeup |
| 22:36 | m_anish_afk is now known as m_anish | |
| 22:37 | silbe | JT4sugar: ok, so everyone would be able to download finished research papers, raw materials like interview minutes etc.? That would be awesome. |
| 22:37 | pflores | #endmeeting |
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| 22:38 | JT4sugar | silbe, Believe they plan to make it publicly available so all community members-so yes |
| 22:38 | silbe | JT4sugar: great! |
| 22:38 | walterbender | silbe, FGrose: an example: http://xo-cesaraguero.blogspot.com/ |
| 22:39 | dfarning is now known as dfarning_afk | |
| 22:39 | walterbender | y http://formando-artistas.blogspot.com/ |
| 22:39 | silbe | walterbender: I don't understand a single word, but I think it would be useful. Show off what people are already doing with Sugar. |
| 22:40 | walterbender | silbe: agreed... and there are hundreds of these out there |
| 22:40 | silbe | walterbender: wow, I didn't know! |
| 22:41 | walterbender | http://miguela-xo.blogspot.com/ |
| 22:41 | silbe | that one I think I've seen before, it sounds and looks familiar... |
| 22:42 | walterbender | http://aprendiendodelaxo.blogspot.com/ |
| 22:43 | http://xomimundo.blogspot.com/[…]del-paraguay.html | |
| 22:44 | silbe | too bad planet.sugarlabs.org is web only. For single blogs I have rss2email, but planet.sl.o doesn't offer an (aggregated) RSS feed. :( |
| 22:44 | walterbender | http://www.ceibalflorida.blogspot.com/ |
| 22:45 | http://www.recursoscompartidos38.blogspot.com/ | |
| 22:45 | silbe | let's at least collect them in minutes... |
| 22:45 | #startmeeting | |
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| 22:46 | silbe | #topic some random teacher blogs related to Sugar |
| 22:46 | #link http://xo-cesaraguero.blogspot.com/ | |
| 22:46 | #link http://formando-artistas.blogspot.com/ | |
| 22:46 | #link http://miguela-xo.blogspot.com/ | |
| 22:46 | #link http://aprendiendodelaxo.blogspot.com/ | |
| 22:46 | #link http://xomimundo.blogspot.com/[…]del-paraguay.html | |
| 22:46 | #link http://www.ceibalflorida.blogspot.com/ | |
| 22:46 | #link http://www.recursoscompartidos38.blogspot.com/ | |
| 22:47 | walterbender | #link http://bloguentarios.blogspot.com/ (a different sort of blog) |
| 22:48 | satellit_afk | walterbender: I copied the links to gedit also FYI |
| 22:48 | bernie | if someone wants to do the work of setting up a planet instance, i have some ~20 feeds of blogs of teachers in paraguay |
| 22:48 | satellit_afk | 7 |
| 22:48 | 8,,, | |
| 22:49 | can we make a wiki page? | |
| 22:49 | walterbender | some I link to from the TurtleArt page |
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| 22:50 | FGrose | seed page: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Blogs |
| 22:50 | satellit_afk | put it on left bar on wiki? |
| 22:51 | walterbender | FGrose: we should auto include everything already in the planet |
| 22:54 | silbe | pflores: BTW, I suppose you're already hooking up with CanoeBerry? He's doing awesome work on the OLPC side. |
| 22:54 | I guess that's it for the links... | |
| 22:54 | #endmeeting | |
| 22:54 | meeting | Meeting ended Wed Jan 26 22:54:28 2011 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. (v 0.1.4) |
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| 22:54 | pflores | silbe: Yes of course |
| 22:55 | silbe | good good |
| 22:58 | satellit_afk is now known as satellit_ | |
| 22:58 | silbe | wow, I didn't know tomeu and erikos are already working on replacing HippoCanvas with GTK containers (required for accessibility): http://erikos.sweettimez.de/?p=999 |
| 22:59 | we definitely don't know enough about what everybody else is working on (or at least I don't)... | |
| 23:00 | walterbender | silbe: tomeu had an interesting blog post as well |
| 23:00 | silbe | walterbender: the hackfest one from today/yesterday? yep, definitely interesting. |
| 23:02 | bernie: can you trick the developers of our planet software into providing an RSS feed that I could use with rss2email (so I don't have to poll a web page)? ;) | |
| 23:03 | satellit_ | silbe: pbrobinson told me today on IRC he has to do some work on the entire f15 python stack for soas. FYI |
| 23:04 | silbe | satellit_: yeah, read that. I tend to catch a lot of what's going on on IRC, but I'm (almost) totally disconnected from the web world (blogs, twitter, Facebook, ...). :-/ |
| 23:06 | bernie | silbe: our planet does not provide an rss feed of its own? |
| 23:06 | silbe: it's planet venus... i thought it would do it | |
| 23:07 | silbe | bernie: I can't find one. |
| 23:07 | bernie | silbe: oh, i think it's another template... one i did not bother using |
| 23:07 | silbe: pls, have a look | |
| 23:07 | silbe | I feared that answer :) |
| 23:17 | bernie: http://planet.sugarlabs.org/rss20.xml appears to work. I'll try it out (i.e. add it to rss2email). | |
| 23:19 | bernie | silbe: there should also be an atom feed (atom is supposedly better than rss) |
| 23:20 | silbe | bernie: I'm not sure rss2email supports atom feeds. No part of the documentation mentions it. |
| 23:20 | neither does the source contain the string "atom" | |
| 23:22 | ah, but the package description does mention it. | |
| 23:22 | bernie: what's supposed to be better about atom feeds? | |
| 23:46 | bernie | silbe: i'm not sure what's better in atom, but i got this impression by googling around |
| 23:47 | silbe | bernie: hmmk. :) |
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| 23:48 | bernie | silbe: or maybe zatoichi? |
| 23:49 | silbe | bernie: is that yet another feed dialect? |
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