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20:00 | walterbender_ | alsroot, bernie, CanoeBerry, cjb: you all around? |
20:00 | alsroot | here |
20:00 | walterbender_ | alsroot: I think last week many people said they could not attend today... |
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20:01 | walterbender_ | bernie and CanoeBerry might be around, but as I recall, Mel, Sebastian, and Chris are not. |
20:02 | and next week, I am travelling: going to the Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas on Thursday :P | |
20:02 | so our next 'official' meeting might not be until the 13th. | |
20:03 | alsroot: but we should discuss where we are at as an organization... a traditional end-of-year exercise :) | |
20:03 | alsroot: I've been a bit under the weather, but am working on a short end-of-the-year report to the community. | |
20:04 | alsroot | so, the date where holidays stop here in russia :) |
20:04 | SeanDaly <SeanDaly!~chatzilla![]() |
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20:04 | walterbender_ | alsroot: in the US, it is only the week between Christmas and New Years that is a slow period. |
20:04 | hi SeanDaly and JT4sugar | |
20:05 | alsroot: you taking any holiday? | |
20:05 | JT4sugar | Hello All |
20:05 | alsroot | walterbender_: in russia, two weeks after new year are holidays (ny and christmas) |
20:05 | SeanDaly | hi everyone |
20:07 | walterbender_ | so, just to give everyone a quick update on what I have been doing (besides hacking on Turtle Art)... |
20:08 | Things are moving ahead with our cycling team... I shared with a few of you the design they came with | |
20:08 | I will see them at the end of January to talk in more detail about how they can help us with outreach and fundraising | |
20:09 | I am meeting Kingston at CES and hopefully will finally get them to commit to Sugar in some way | |
20:09 | and I meet with a Chinese OEM who is very interested in Sugar | |
20:10 | SeanDaly | walterbender_: great lots of things happening |
20:10 | walterbender_ | I am in discussions with the US State Dept. about using Sugar for English language learning |
20:10 | SeanDaly | is cycling meeting in Paris? |
20:10 | walterbender_ | and connecting them to our friends in Colombia |
20:10 | SeanDaly: outside Barcelona | |
20:10 | SeanDaly: too cold in Paris to cycle this time of year :) | |
20:11 | SeanDaly | walterbender_: as long as not too much ice I cycle every day :D :D |
20:11 | walterbender_ | and I am still trying to organize a Sugar Camp in Lima in Feb., but it is probably too soon. |
20:12 | Also, I have been in discussions with OLPC Brasil about getting something going again there, now that the government is finally starting to purchase laptops. | |
20:12 | and next week, I should meet with the MIT team that did the marketing study this past fall... | |
20:13 | that's my quick list for the moment... | |
20:13 | JT4sugar | walterbender, Article says Brazil going with Mandriva on Intel machines. Is Sugar going to be in image? |
20:14 | walterbender_ | JT4sugar: trying to get things moving in that direction. I think the Mandriva port is a bit stale... |
20:14 | I've been pinging my various contacts | |
20:15 | SeanDaly | walterbender_: I propose to go see Mandriva |
20:15 | walterbender_ | there is apparently a bit of not-invented-here going on, but it is not consistent with the facts: Brasilians played a big role in Sugar development |
20:15 | SeanDaly: that could help... my old contacts there are all gone :( | |
20:16 | SeanDaly | walterbender_: the fellow who presented at Netbook conf Dec 2009? |
20:17 | walterbender_ | SeanDaly: if you mean Patrick, then yes, he left. |
20:18 | SeanDaly | arrgh |
20:18 | alsroot | last sugar version in mandriva packages is 0.88, since 0.90 is not well, I guess, having 0.88 is fine in mandriva |
20:19 | SeanDaly | I have tried and failed twice installing Mandriva on 2 netbooks |
20:19 | walterbender_ | alsroot: wasn't aware that it was 0.88. Last I looked, it was 0.84 or 0.86... |
20:19 | SeanDaly | Next I will try their netbook version, I naively tried DVD install |
20:20 | alsroot | walterbender_: nope, I updated sugar for mandriva regulary before it was reorginized |
20:20 | so, it is 0.88 | |
20:21 | SeanDaly | alsroot: that's good news |
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20:21 | walterbender_ | alsroot: great. I should point the Brasilians at that work |
20:22 | alsroot | walterbender_: all sugar packages are in official (contrib) repos |
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20:23 | SeanDaly | I believe satellit has prepared a Mandriva VM |
20:23 | here it is: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/E[…]va-linux-one-2010.1-Gnome-sugar | |
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20:24 | walterbender_ | I'll send a note to my gov. contacts tonight |
20:25 | meanwhile, I'll also try to light a fire under some of the university folks as well. | |
20:25 | JT4sugar | Would be nice to see Mandriva put resources in to getting Sugar to work on Intel Classmate |
20:26 | walterbender_ | JT4sugar: or the Brasilian government/community |
20:26 | JT4sugar | walterbender_, All of the above |
20:26 | SeanDaly | Mandriva site Sugar mention for 2010.0: http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/20[…]our#Sugar_Desktop |
20:27 | walterbender_ | cool... |
20:27 | alsroot | SeanDaly: sugar is being packaged for mandriva for 23 months :) |
20:28 | SeanDaly | alsroot: bravo |
20:28 | JT4sugar | I think it becomes a matter of Brasil Govt asking Mandriva and Intel to have Sugar in image |
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20:29 | SeanDaly | JT4sugar: key question is, is interface & sufficient number of Activities localized to pt-BR |
20:30 | walterbender_ | SeanDaly: pt-BR has very good coverage in general |
20:30 | bernie | walterbender_: I'm around |
20:31 | walterbender_ | hi bernie |
20:31 | bernie | walterbender_: ah, the meeting |
20:31 | sits quietly | |
20:31 | walterbender_ | we are just chatting... planning an excuse to go to Brasil for Carnival :) |
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20:32 | bernie | walterbender_: your alter ego just logged in. |
20:32 | walterbender_ | bernie: how do I turn off my never-used proxy on sl.o |
20:32 | bernie | walterbender_: I could kill it, if you're not planning to use it |
20:33 | walterbender_ | bernie: I don't think I will ever use it |
20:33 | SeanDaly | bernie: haven't migrated my mailbox yet still trying to figure out & was offline for a week |
20:35 | walterbender_ | alsroot: is there anything we should be discussing re workflow and support? |
20:35 | bernie | SeanDaly: ok, we can keep it around |
20:35 | alsroot | walterbender_: in what case? |
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20:36 | bernie | walterbender_: ok, killed |
20:36 | walterbender_ | alsroot: in regard to your agenda item for the SLOBs meeting |
20:37 | bernie | SeanDaly: btw, please don't cc matt on that thread in the marketing list... he's pissed at me for all the mail he's receiving. |
20:37 | alsroot | walterbender_: it was just ideas to think about, from another hand, I'm already work on some of impls (and planing to have results for 0.92 final release) |
20:37 | walterbender_ | bernie: gracie |
20:38 | SeanDaly | bernie: yes he just "bowed out" |
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20:38 | SeanDaly | hi satellit_ |
20:53 | needs to go now | |
20:53 | walterbender_ | bye SeanDaly |
20:54 | SeanDaly | bye ;-) |
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22:21 | :(. | |
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22:52 | satellit_ | wlaterbender_: sorry we were out for x-country ski. /I have both KDE and Gnome VirtualBox Mandriva 2010.1 update easily to 2010.2 (latest) sugar is 0.88.0 on them. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/E[…]va-linux-one-2010.1-Gnome-sugar |
22:53 | problem is that browse is not working. sugar is added in terminal with "urpmi task-sugar" | |
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22:55 | satellit_ | walterbender_: sorry for typo....: / |
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23:27 | bernie | satellit_: how well does it work? |
23:28 | satellit_: brazil says they'll use mandriva on the classmates | |
23:30 | satellit_ | bernie: mandriva is nice. Problem with sugar is that at the moment there is no browse that starts. Firefox-6.xo does work when it is installed..... look at my gnome-sugar Virtualbox appliance http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/C[…]ibutions/Mandriva |
23:30 | http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/E[…]va-linux-one-2010.1-Gnome-sugar | |
23:31 | I saw this about brazil: http://www2.mandriva.com/en/news/?p=145&s=0 | |
23:33 | bernie: there is a split happening. Developers were fired en-mass and are on #mageia freeenode now | |
23:33 | 2010.1 is relabeled 2010.2 but is small upgrade only | |
23:34 | bernie | satellit_: the darn browse is really a big problem. we need to get lucian to finish Surf |
23:34 | satellit_ | yup |
23:35 | for dfarning on ubuntu also USR | |
23:35 | bernie | satellit_: we should definitely do something about it |
23:36 | satellit_ | bernie: alsroot has fixed browse on Trisquel 4.0.1 sugar (0.90.1)and Debian squeeze (which is a nice sugar also) |
23:37 | bernie | satellit_: these two HUGE sales for classmate are also worrying. if we can't convince intel to bundle sugar with the classmate, sugar will be displaced from the classroom |
23:37 | satellit_: great alsroot! | |
23:37 | satellit_ | bernie: I have spent the last several weeks looking at all of the linux distros I know of that can add sugar-desktop.... |
23:38 | bernie | satellit_: sugar is still so olpc-centric... it's very dangerous for us to have no usable demo for other platforms. |
23:38 | satellit_: thanks, this helps a lot | |
23:39 | walterbender_: what do you think? (see the conversation b/w me and satellit) | |
23:39 | satellit_ | quidam #trisquel says he will build Trisquel toast for 0.90.1 after new years |
23:40 | walterbender_ | looks |
23:40 | satellit_ | bernie: alsroot uses sweet build system for trisquel http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/T[…]_Toast#Trisquel_4.0.1_Gnome_Desktop_with_sweets_sugar_0.90.1 |
23:41 | walterbender_ | bernie: as you know, we are working to get Sugar onto the Argentine machines... and I am working on Brasil as well. |
23:41 | satellit_ | maybe sweets system will fix other distros..... |
23:42 | walterbender_ | bernie: re surf, I am not sure what we can do to accelerate the progress... the regressions re the Mozilla tools are really unfortunate. |
23:43 | satellit_ | finish sugarizing firefox-6.xo? |
23:43 | It works fine....just says will not start after exit | |
23:44 | It is on latest USR |
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